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Greetings Programs! Rather than take over the "DSM Thread" with all my posts, I figure that having it here and I can just dump stuff willy nilly and y'all can complain or whatever about it here, and specifically call me out for stupid stuff that I might do or have done or whatever. Anyways, a long time ago, about, oh 2001, before the Lancer Evolution or even the WRX came stateside, when I was going to college, I bought a car. A 1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX, to be specific. It had approximately 70 thousand miles on it and was being sold by a guy who was going to grad school. The timing belt had not been done, which should've at 60k (bad sign), but since I was desperate for an AWD turbo car, I figured I'd just deal with it and fix things as I went. So I bought it. I immediately had the timing belt done, and then a short time later (around 10k or so) the clutch was shot. When I pulled the transmission, there was no fluid in the tranny, which would later on lead to a complete rebuild a few short years later. While I was at it, i dealt with blown turbos, bad dealerships, melted wiring harnesses, expensive tows from aforementioned harness melting, complete engine swaps, a fender bender or two, lots of money, and stupidity spent.  Here's a terrible picture of how high the car is actually with stock ride height after I put my then new wheels on. Yeek. I move out of my parent's place because I was completely becoming a reclusive shut-in, and mothball the car as my insurance was too expensive to keep going while making poo poo money along with rent prices. I make a solemn vow in June of 2006 at my car to return as soon as possible when I made more money as to support my further stupidity.  Hard-parking with a friend's (now destroyed) WRX. And for non hardparking: Up at NHIS in happier times in early 2006:  --- Then one day in October 2011, after I finally managed to get another job that made enough money, I knew it was time. It was time to raise the Titanic and do what I had always wanted to with the car. Or at least sort of do with it given my current circumstances of not having a giant truck and trailer and an extra 60k to throw in the car. But it's not going to be an easy job, as the car has been sitting for many years, and needs much work to get going again. The JIC Magic shocks set up by John Mueller? Blown. The bolts? Rusty. The battery? Very, very dead. The interior? Moldy. The paint? Probably needs some help. This is the story of stupid car poo poo into making it into a weekend fun car that can do track events but still drive home at the end of it. --- What's on the semi-immediate before a track event checklist: Install Brembo caliper setup with stainless lines. Replace Timing belt (It's been five years, better safe than sorry). Change fluids. Drop gas tank and clear out that 3/4 of a tank of 5 year old gas in there.  Clean up the surface rust on the bolts and heat shielding. Get some new wheels and tires for the car. The 7.5 inch Gram Lights are too narrow for such a fat car, and the offset won't clear those big Brembos. Thinking about doing a 17x9.5 +22 with some 235 or 245 width rubber. Get a new front end and duct brakes/cooling system. Retune ECU. Replace wheel studs with ARP units. After my good friend lost his wheel at NHIS on his Evo with the same Kyo Ei studs I have, I'm a bit nervous about my old studs. And then the future plans: Replace turbo with something bigger. Probably an evo 9 turbo or something of that ilken. Shoot for around 400 HP without blowing the denso 660s at the road course. Run some 272 cams from HKS or Jun. Have heard and seen nothing but poo poo about Crowers. Get some better differentials. Fix the dumb dents/bumps etc. Finally enjoy the car for what it is.
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So of course the first dumb thing I do on my spare day off when I'm down at my parents is... Jump the battery and start the dumb stupid car up. It actually started with no problems (after a few cranks that is), even built a little bit of boost. I was expecting a bit of a poo poo-show on the car for sitting in a pretty wet garage by the water, but I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it was:  Mold. Mold was all over the place on the car except somehow the driver's seat (A flameproof Bride Zeta 3). Grooooss.. It cleaned up OK:  (there's a lot of gauges there). I need a good suede brush to work on the wear spots where your hands go. So after cleaning that up sort of (still going to do some more tomorrow), and sorting through my parts, I decided to wash it and leave it alone for now:  Currently my schedule to get it over to the shop where the tank will be drained and the parts installed will be in somewhere around January so I'm not really that interested in tearing the whole car apart on the driveway to change fluids, etc. I'm going to sort through the engine some more tomorrow, maybe hit the rust/coating with a wire brush to see how far the rabbit hole goes as far as decay. :\
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Nov 26, 2011 04:46
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Well, I checked out the bay this morning, and the timing belt has a hole in it from something chewing on it. Not good. At all.  Unfortunately, the only way to move it is to start the drat thing because the rotors are so corroded, so uh. low RPMs and lots of prayer.I was going to take a metal brush to all the parts but honestly at this point I'd rather get the timing belt done, the engine sorted out and so forth, than worry about a few rusty bolts. http://amsperformance.com/camtest.php Here's the 4G63 cam test, amongst all the other talk. But that's way way further down the road.
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Nov 26, 2011 19:32
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Yeah, I'm probably just going to run it through the fuel line, as the chance for moisture build up in the tank is pretty low due to the amount of gas actually in the tank. DSM Link even has an option to just crank the fuel pump as much as it needs. I wonder if my tuning laptop (an ancient pentium 2) still works with my dsm link on there? 
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Nov 29, 2011 21:10
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Sorry for the lack of progress in this thread, it's been a mild winter, but no progress has been made. I haven't even scheduled a date for drop-off times because I've got to get my own personal apartment setup taken care of first. Also kinda scurred to get the shocks rebuilt and how much that would cost (although not really at the same point). Other than that, I'm half tempted to offer this guy here: http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-wheels-tires/593915-5x-five-low-mileage-advan-rgii-gold-17x9-29-a.html 1400~1500 shipped for the set for my car to clear the new calipers and get a wider than 7.5" wide wheel. I have no idea what I was thinking when I only got 7.5" wide wheels back in the day.
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Feb 3, 2012 21:57
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It's definitely eventual... although I've got an insurance payment coming one of these days and I might just throw in the towel and get a Z3 Coupe M edition (The thought of the sin!). I didn't stablize the gas at all (oops), and the gram lights wheels are around a 40 offset. I really just want wider, lower offset wheels, but that's a "to come" kind of thing. Once I get through the suspension/engine stuff/gas issues, I really want to duct the front end all proper for the IC/Radiator/Oil cooler, and maybe get a vented hood.
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Feb 6, 2012 17:50
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DJ Commie posted:I still think your car is beautiful and would want it. My Daihatsus are far too reliable I'm pretty sure if I stopped loving with the car and parts and such it'd be fine but I can't help myself.
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Feb 6, 2012 19:16
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DJ Commie posted:That is me and suspension settings for the race car, its endless to try to eke a few tenths out of a slow rear end car. That's pretty much why I went with Muellerized JICs, I basically wanted no say in spring rate/shock dampening other than "Put these on and go fast" kind of stuff. Now I'm going to have a big can of worms once they're rebuilt (hopefully locally). Either that or I just dump some Bilstein/Penske custom setup in it and not touch it again. I find actually driving the car much more rewarding than throwing money at it and on my back working on it.
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Feb 6, 2012 20:04
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 I really have to stop buying dumb poo poo.
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Feb 16, 2012 23:45
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Seat Safety Switch posted:You're going to save a lot of unsprung weight over the cinder blocks it's currently using. Some dude was selling them on evolutionM and I had wanted to get a set of TCII (didn't have the size I wanted and they're discontinued) or TCIII (Too much money) buit RGII's are okay. I lowballed the poo poo out of him because they're a set of five wheels and two need to be refinished. He wanted 1800 and I laughed pretty hard. They're actually the wheels I linked earlier in this thread. I'm probably going to have the car towed maybe at the end of the month to the shop. Octopus Magic fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 17, 2012 |
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Feb 17, 2012 00:06
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Belldandy posted:Looking forward to replacing a radiator at 4am on a Thursday. Again. My koyo is doing fine, thank you. Buy another Evo. 
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Feb 17, 2012 18:53
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So tomorrow is the big day of towing it over. I'm almost kind of scared to see the bill. I'm budgeting about 2-3k away for this project, although it'd be much, much nicer if it was nowhere near that. In the mean time, I've been thinking of a new front end so I can up the frontal duct area. While most are pretty awful, I found a C-West knockoff (called Tracer 2) that seems to fit the bill (big ducts, not retarded looking). In fact, it's pretty dang similar to what I already have. I'm interested with my oil cooler being pretty hidden with the standard side intakes, this might be a cheap solution perhaps.  I'm not much for the little wheel ducts, but the frontal radiator area is good, and the secondary smaller areas could be used for brake ducting.
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Feb 25, 2012 02:09
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Things should be happening at a much quicker rate now: vrooooooom  I had to take the front end off to make it get up the ramps. The oil cooler barely cleared the up ramp still. I also had to jump start it twice to get it off and on the trailer. The timing belt is still good.
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Feb 26, 2012 00:45
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Well gently caress me, the shop I towed it over to doesn't want to work on it. The undercarriage/engine bay apparently is too rusted from 5 years of storage.... gently caress. I don't know what I'm going to do at this point.
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Mar 1, 2012 19:43
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One that would take an hour alone to remove the wheels apparently.
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Mar 1, 2012 20:04
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It's the neglect kind of rust that sucks. The engine needs to be pulled and all the gaskets redone, stuff like that. It's about making the car reliable enough to do track events, rather than just slamming it together for "good enough" stuff. :\
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Mar 1, 2012 20:31
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I really don't have the time/space for working on it at this point (which is the whole point I brought it over to a shop) so I think I might just try to part what I can get out of it and hang up my race gloves.
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Mar 1, 2012 20:49
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Rhyno posted:My friend's car has rusted so badly they can't get anything free. They've been cutting a few bits every couple weeks in their spare time. The chassis is fine but everything attached to it is rusted tight. This is pretty much my imagined reason. I'm going to guess in the 5 years of not moving, every bolt has probably seized or is very unhappy where it is right now. I didn't think it was that bad, but I really don't want the car breaking when I'm at the track, and the fact that the guys who run this shop are some of my personal friends means that poo poo is hosed.
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Mar 1, 2012 21:23
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Either that or they don't want to burn through 7 grand of labor to go through every bolt.
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Mar 1, 2012 21:40
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I really didn't think it was that bad. The rear swaybar was pretty drat rusty, the exhaust had a bit of surface rust, but then again, I wasn't the one trying to pull the car apart myself. I think it's a "I don't want to deal with this disasterpiece" kind of issue. What really sucks is that I spent about a good 150-200 to have the car towed over there, only to be told that it was too rusty to work on. I'm kinda pissed.
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Mar 2, 2012 00:18
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Maybe I'll just drag the car back to my parents, take a week off work, start working on it at their place like every good DSM'er. gently caress 'em.
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Mar 2, 2012 00:20
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Sushi The Kid posted:That's what I said with my Conquest, 6 years ago. This is also my other scary thought.
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Mar 2, 2012 01:32
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Well I found this: http://youturd.com/kb_00023_2G_Turbo_FWD_bolt_wizard.htm and I have this: http://www.jegs.com/v/ARP/070 and also this: http://www.jnztuning.com/ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Mar 2, 2012 17:44
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Excuse me, but Clive Cussler was an unappreciated genius of our time. Like I said earlier, I think their way of thinking was that they would have to spend more than what the car was worth in labor to get it where I want it to be. Octopus Magic fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 2, 2012 |
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Mar 2, 2012 20:36
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I was just thinking out loud here, one of the things they weren't happy with was the wheel bearings/axle interface with the rust going on there, my thought is to get some used suspension hubs, new wheel bearings all around, and new axles all around so it's a direct bolt in with the rest of the suspension. It would also ease my worries on a new shell on wheel bearing condition. Edit; Moving unfortunately is not an option. Octopus Magic fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Mar 3, 2012 |
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Mar 3, 2012 02:50
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I found this on my phone, this is the level of rust we're dealing with:
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Mar 3, 2012 06:05
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DJ Commie posted:Did the car spend that much time damp inside and out? It spent about 5 years in a concrete, unsealed garage on the coast, under tarps, which was probably a dumb idea. I should've just left it outside with a car cover.
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Mar 3, 2012 16:38
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I was talking to him this weekend, and he said there's sill/body seam rust. If that's the case, she might be a goner. :\ I'll probably take a look at it this weekend and figure out what I can do. The nice thing I actually can say is that I have enough cash on hand to buy a running or non running GSX and then pick/choose what I can off of my current car and transfer it over. Paint might be expensive though.
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Mar 5, 2012 20:29
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Guess what I have? RUST PHOTOS!! subframe  N1 is shot.  Front axle/suspension/brakes.  dampener  Gas tank  by strut tower by clutch master cylinder/power steering.
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Mar 11, 2012 22:20
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Poured concrete garage with tarps over it.
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Mar 12, 2012 15:42
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So after much soul searching, and realizing that I was being an idiot with the red car, I decided to look in other directions. Like clean cars/shells etc... After dealing with craigslist forever, and dealing with stupidity, I found one in Florida. BEHOLD THE TALON (to be converted into a 2GB GSX with that front end and painted red, cuz Talons is ugly)  Gross body molding and wing!!  ick talon front end  Built seven bolt with MAFT  crabon hood here's the list of partz: Engine specs Built short block 20k miles (180psi On all 4 +-2psi) Arias pistons eagle rods nitrated crank arp head studs bc 272 cams crower spring and ti retainers. mishimoto radiator fp 4inch intake hallman boost controller 255 walbro fic 850's Hot parts Fp 3052 turbo Ported and coated stock manifold tial waste gate , ext dump apexi n1 exhaust system Drivetrain fresh rebuild on tranny (800 miles) (with four gear spider/evo 3 shift forks/cryo treated gears) Competition twin disk (800 miles) b&m short throw shifter new shifter cables redline fluids throughout drivetrain. Electronics dsmlink v2.5 stewart warner 40 psi boost gauge autometer egt autometer oil pressure aem uego wired to ecu for logging. optima red top battery push button start gm maf and translator I'm going to ship it via truck back to the shop my current car is at and then have them install the brakes/maybe redo the ball joints and check it over. I'm going to also tow my old eclipse back home, take what I want out of it (suspension, downpipe, Trust oil cooler, seat, steering wheel, roll bar, radio, HKS electronic boost controller, my nicer greddy gauges, etc), and maybe see if I can get 2 grand out of it.
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Mar 23, 2012 03:02
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Rhyno posted:Hooray for new car! Yeah, it kinda sucks, but it is just a car. I'm pretty sure ~400 AWHP will solve my blues.
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Mar 23, 2012 03:07
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BoostCreep posted:Keep the 2Gb Talon! I hate when Talons get converted to Eclipses Yeah but I strongly dislike 2G Talons and want to pretend I never let my poor red Eclipse down I really really hate the wing on it.
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Mar 23, 2012 03:24
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BoostCreep posted:Then send me your Talon parts. I'll put them to good use Only if you do this:  But that's a 1995....
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Mar 23, 2012 03:37
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Keep the Talon as is. but but but this is so kawaii (cute).
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Mar 23, 2012 03:57
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BoostCreep posted:I just realized how apt the thread title is. That was the point?  (also DSMs being fat and can't handle and run into icebergs)
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Mar 23, 2012 15:31
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Also they idle about as well as a cruise ship, in my experience. Eh, if there's one thing I have to say about my old Eclipse, is that it idled rock solid.
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Mar 23, 2012 15:38
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Detroit Q. Spider posted:This thread inspired me to go looking for Eclipse videos and I found this gem at the top of the results: That's a 4th gen  I was sad for a while the way Mitsubishi went, but I think I've gotten over it at this point.
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Mar 23, 2012 20:59
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OK, has anyone shipped a car? I'm hearing wildly varying prices/costs/and horrible stories from certain carriers etc. I'm looking for basically the cheapest rates, I've had ranges from 500 to 800+, which is a big difference.
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Mar 24, 2012 00:06
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BoostCreep posted:I shipped my Talon across the country with a reputable company. It showed up with a smashed front bumper, crushed intercooler, and seized engine. You're really better off flying down yourself and driving back. It will cost about the same I'd imagine. Doof.
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