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I will hear no badmouthing about Ace of Cakes.  Besides, if you thought it was bad, it only got worse when it got canceled, since Food Network tried to take what was good about the show (awesome cakes made by a fun group of people) and split the concept into two new shows; Have Cake, Will Travel (for the cake part) and Ice Brigade (for the group of people part). Note the words "awesome" and "fun" are missing from the concepts of those new shows. Also note those shows didn't make it past their first few episodes.And then, of course, Duff was put on that new show Sugar High, which was just another "Let's go around America and check out restaurants" show which they have a bajillion of, and was the most uninspired of them all. physeter posted:The thing I don't understand about cake challenges is that those cakes taste like absolute poo poo. It's just fondant icing and stale cake cut by a hacksaw. Why not just get a normal cake and hire your local, underemployed sculptor? Cake shows make no sense. If someone got me a big fancy cake that tasted like crap I would be mad. They have different types of challenges. Some of them are just showpieces, so taste doesn't matter. However, they're still to be sculpted in a way that they'd (theoretically) be edible. Then there's other challenges where taste is a factor. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 5, 2011 |
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physeter posted:The thing I don't understand about cake challenges is that those cakes taste like absolute poo poo. It's just fondant icing and stale cake cut by a hacksaw. Why not just get a normal cake and hire your local, underemployed sculptor? Cake shows make no sense. If someone got me a big fancy cake that tasted like crap I would be mad. My favorite one was the Halloween one (which I don't think even had anything to actually do with food) where the pumpkin art was pretty sweet, but one of the judges was a self-proclaimed "HALLOWEEN EXPERT". They show it every Halloween and I always find myself wondering what qualified one to be a HALLOWEEN EXPERT, like can I pick up that certification at the local community college, or maybe the University of Phoenix? Jamesman posted:I will hear no badmouthing about Ace of Cakes. Didn't they have a couple awful cupcake shows when loving cupcakes became all the rage for like five minutes for God knows what reason? Jamesman posted:And then, of course, Duff was put on that new show Sugar High, which was just another "Let's go around America and check out restaurants" show which they have a bajillion of, and was the most uninspired of them all. Speaking of lovely uninspired travelogue shows, if we can count Travel Channel since it is essentially Food Network 3 behind Cooking Channel at this point, Bourdain's Layover show is pretty phoned in. I love No Reservations but he just seems out of his depth not covering exotic food and hole in the wall joints in the middle of nowhere. The one episode I saw was of him in New York City and I couldn't watch any more when he did a bit on that Shake Shack place that shows up in every Scripps-produced Top 100 Countdown of Whatever the gently caress. raditts fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 5, 2011 |
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Dec 5, 2011 19:40
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I thought the challenge setup in the newest Next Iron Chef was pretty good; having them bid on ingredients by reducing their cook time made for some interesting stuff. I still say Elizabeth Faulkner should have won though. I would never have thought I would like to try a dish made with tuna jerky.
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I'm still sad that Burrell's out.
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Elliot Rosewater posted:I'm still sad that Burrell's out. You will never convince me that the fix isn't in on The Next Iron Chef (and Next Food Network Star) before a single episode is filmed. Cat Cora's gone (I think she's having another baby, and she decided she was tired of the Food Network stuff), and there's no way Scripps would run with an all-male Iron Chef lineup again. It'll be Alex Guarnaschelli versus Zakarian in the finals, and she'll win a "tough, hard-fought battle against an equally skilled competitor, but in the end, there can be only one Next Iron Chef." Timby fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Dec 5, 2011 |
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Completely agree. If all judges and contestants are willing to pretend that tilapia is some sort of well-regarded gourmet fish, then they have no credibility as far as the competition goes. Next Iron Chef might be decent television but it is the opposite of reality tv and a failure as a gameshow.
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It's too bad you guys don't get some of the batshit stuff we get on Food Network Canada. I'm not even sure this is still on but if you want to see three guys get stoned and build a bunch of weird food-related poo poo, seek out Food Jammers. It's like Alton Brown with a lot more failure and like 3 ounces of high grade medicinal poo poo. http://www.peacepoint.tv/foodjammers/ http://www.foodnetwork.ca/ontv/shows/Food-Jammers I mean, just listen to this poo poo, they are literally the ideas your high roommate came up with last night and forgot about 10 minutes later: quote:The world of curry is infinite yet when the Jammers make it, it always tastes the same. Inspired to bust out of their curry rut, the Guys look to randomness to help them become dynamic curry creators. By making a series of casino wheels, and surrendering every decision for every ingredient to a random force, they widen the curry map and start making dishes that are truly unique. But will they taste any good? Only time will tell. quote:Starting with a scratch-made corn-puff batter, and dried gourmet cheeses the Jammers design aperitif snacks capable of living up to noble wines. After many failed attempts with the batter, the Guys invent the cheese dust cyclone re-using parts from a shop vacuum cleaner to marry the puff and the cheese dust. Dubbing their new high-end snack food, the Chunkeeze, they visit a sommelier and chase them with the most appropriate wine. quote:Story Quest: To create a taco vending machine, as a fresh fast food alternative that is accessible anytime. quote:A ten-foot galvanized steel horse trough perched atop a wall of bricks makes a perfect tub under which you can build a fire. A steel box with holes cut into it for bowls, makes the perfect stove upon which to cook the Japanese hot pot dish, Shabu Shabu. And once you collect the ingredients for the dish, you can experience the ultimate in hedonistic dining. That's exactly what Micah, Chris and Nobu do on the coldest day of the year. All they have to do is get in the tub, and start cooking their meal. It just can’t get any better than this. quote:Micah, Chris and Nobu update the flat pizza, taking it out of the Middle Ages and into the modern world, by making it three dimensional. Micah makes a "geodesic dome" pizza, Chris makes the "perfect dice" pizza and Nobu makes a "stairway to cheese heaven" pizza. Ensuring a bountiful flavour, the guys make their own personalized wood fired oven that fits into their window like an air conditioning unit, so they make the pizza any time they want. It's modern, it's convenient and it tastes great.
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Dec 5, 2011 21:29
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I remember watching the food jammers episode with the pizza Dice. I gotta say, those dudes are loving hillarious. Anyways, another good FNC show, in my opinion, is license to grill. Then again, it was filmed about two blocks from my parents house. But there is still something awesome about every episode being about a pile of meat cooking.
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Dec 5, 2011 21:39
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There is no way Alex is not winning Next Iron Chef. In practically every episode, she's at the bottom, but as of yet has never been sent to the showdown. They basically fall over themselves looking for reasons not to send her. Last week, it was her "story." This week, it was because Burrel had one bad dish out of three. She's going to win.
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Dec 5, 2011 21:49
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Which personalities on these channels do you guys actually like? I really love Patrick & Gina Neely. Granted, they are married so the chemistry should be there, but whenever I catch their show I can't help but feel like they not only truly love cooking/eating, but genuinely love just being around each other.
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Dec 5, 2011 22:31
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raditts posted:Didn't they have a couple awful cupcake shows when loving cupcakes became all the rage for like five minutes for God knows what reason? I can't recall any other cupcake-themed shows besides the one that's on now. God gently caress, do I hate Cupcake Wars. It would actually be tolerable without all the annoying quips tying in with the theme of the event, though. Just every couple minutes, the loving host has to say some sort of stupid douchey comment, and then that loving lady judge has to say comments too. Space-themed event. "That's one small step for man, 10 minutes left to finish your cupcakes!" "I gotta say this cupcake is out of this world!" No shut the gently caress up all of you.
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Jamesman posted:Just every couple minutes, the loving host has to say some sort of stupid douchey comment, and then that loving lady judge has to say comments too. Space-themed event. "That's one small step for man, 10 minutes left to finish your cupcakes!" "I gotta say this cupcake is out of this world!" No shut the gently caress up all of you. That's the worst thing I've ever heard relating to cupcakes. I remember some of the complaints during Next Iron Chef was annoying. During the "New York Storyline" challenge, I remember the hostess said that Chef Samuelsson's plate had a salmon and a steak that competed with each other too much, as if this one delicious thing should not have another delicious thing by it. The criticism about storytelling also seemed so ridiculous. I understand judging someone for having burnt food in a bag so they could smell it, but to judge them for not telling a story? I don't think this is what Iron Chef was about!
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flashy_mcflash posted:It's too bad you guys don't get some of the batshit stuff we get on Food Network Canada. I'm not even sure this is still on but if you want to see three guys get stoned and build a bunch of weird food-related poo poo, seek out Food Jammers. It's like Alton Brown with a lot more failure and like 3 ounces of high grade medicinal poo poo. It comes on Planet Green here. Jamesman posted:I can't recall any other cupcake-themed shows besides the one that's on now. God gently caress, do I hate Cupcake Wars. It would actually be tolerable without all the annoying quips tying in with the theme of the event, though. Well its kind of a lost cause from the beginning, because I can't think of a more boring thing to base a food show around than loving cupcakes. I'm pretty sure there was also another reality show centered around a cupcake shop. According to IMDB it's on TLC though.. Parachute posted:Which personalities on these channels do you guys actually like? Along with Ina Garten, they're the only two people on the channel I can stand. raditts fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Dec 6, 2011 |
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Food Jammers is kind of funny in a "stoned guys make stoner things" way, but the real FNC gem is The Wild Chef, with the guy from Au Pied du Cochon. Also there is officially a "Cupcakery" in my city and I give it about 3 months.
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We get Food Jammers on Cooking Channel---the ice cream episode was novel enough, ha! I don't know if it is possible for good personalities to manifest during this ongoing, and worsening, onslaught of Holiday themed shows though---the lot of them resulted in no solid shows to watch from anything PBS or much otherwise all weekend long. How in the world do you fashion an hour long show on cookies and cocktails?!
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I completely thought the fix was in for a female Next Iron Chef, but was okay with it because Anne has competed in kitchen stadium a lot already with Mario, is an adept chef, and would make a good one. (She gets booted.) gently caress that poo poo. I am Zakarian or bust at this point, with Chiarello, Falkner, and Butterball in order of tolerable.
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Anything that raises the profile of Zakarian which will undercut his current bankruptcy is fine with me.raditts posted:Well its kind of a lost cause from the beginning, because I can't think of a more boring thing to base a food show around than loving cupcakes. I saw an episode of that last night. Dear lord it was grating. "How do I run the cotton candy machine?" "Mommy, it's too pink" "Mommy, it's too Christmassy"
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Toffile posted:Anything that raises the profile of Zakarian which will undercut his current bankruptcy is fine with me. TLC reality shows are absolutely the worst when it comes to "characters" and the forced drama, with the exception of maybe Say Yes to the Dress.
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Parachute posted:Which personalities on these channels do you guys actually like? I ate at one of their restaurants in Memphis. It was bad. Dry BBQ and the service was lovely.
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Parachute posted:Which personalities on these channels do you guys actually like? These are literally the only people I can watch without groaning every other segment, now that Good Eats seems to be in Cooking Channel. Sometimes Ina if she's not going on about how tiring living in a beautiful place with no major concerns is. Also I hate the competition shows with a burning passion because there's always like, one qualified judge and then 2 meaningless cocks there to go 'well it tasted good and looked good but it was missing the WOW factor, you lose' or 'sure this was a good thing you made, but you really didn't push the envelope enough!' They might as well settle most competitions with coin flips or rock paper scissors for how useful the actual judges are. I kinda like the Food Truck stuff but it's annoying to see the 'LOOK HOW QUIRKY AND COOL WE ARE' people, I know that's just how all tv is ever, just given the nature of the focus the density of unique snowflakes is grating.
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Parachute posted:On a similar note, I really wish I could find the full episode of No Reservations where Tony had Christmas dinner with Queens of the Stone Age. There was an episode this season set in the High Desert with Josh Homme, it's on iTunes. However, I can't find the 2007 Holiday Special anywhere 
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WHEEZY KISS A DUDE posted:There was an episode this season set in the High Desert with Josh Homme, it's on iTunes. However, I can't find the 2007 Holiday Special anywhere This episode was amazing.
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explosivo posted:This episode was amazing. It really is. I found a B-roll of footage shot for this episode set to music by QOTSA and Josh Homme on vimeo that kind of sums up the entire mood of the episode: http://vimeo.com/27444040
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Good Eats being moved to the Cooking Channel was a punch in the nuts for me because my cable carrier does not have this channel available yet it seems. No Good Eats for me! 
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ToastyPotato posted:Good Eats being moved to the Cooking Channel was a punch in the nuts for me because my cable carrier does not have this channel available yet it seems. No Good Eats for me! Wasn't Cooking Channel originally designed to be an answer to Food Network, not its show graveyard? I have to laugh about people enjoying the Josh Homme episode. I'm an rear end in a top hat: Josh Homme is totally fuckable but such an obnoxious rear end in a top hat that I couldn't stand watching that No Reservations without liberal use of the mute button. QOTSA is good in small doses.
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FISHMANPET posted:TLC reality shows are absolutely the worst when it comes to "characters" and the forced drama, with the exception of maybe Say Yes to the Dress. I admittedly have a soft spot for whatever the baking competition that's hosted by the Cake Boss. Mainly because at the end of the day, no matter how great or lovely they look, the cakes are going to be smashed, smushed, exploded, crushed...
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I Ozma Myself posted:Wasn't Cooking Channel originally designed to be an answer to Food Network, not its show graveyard? They're both owned by Scripps, I don't see why it would be anything else. It used to be a much better channel in the form of Fine Living Network, but I guess that wasn't popular enough.
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raditts posted:They're both owned by Scripps, I don't see why it would be anything else. It used to be a much better channel in the form of Fine Living Network, but I guess that wasn't popular enough. Hm, maybe not the "answer" per se, but supposed to have more divergent content. I guess in some ways it does have stuff that FN doesn't have, but I wouldn't call Food Jammers a boon.
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I Ozma Myself posted:Hm, maybe not the "answer" per se, but supposed to have more divergent content. I guess in some ways it does have stuff that FN doesn't have, but I wouldn't call Food Jammers a boon. I think it was always supposed to be more of a MTV2 to FN's MTV. Stuff on the Cooking Channel is more instructional cooking as opposed to the various reality shows, eatery profiling, hyper commercialization that makes up Food Network now.
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Chiming in with everyone saying the QOTSA episode of No Reservations was fantastic (and it was). Tied with the one where he went to Spain as my favorite. Josh Homme is so cool.  I also like Sunny Anderson for some reason and I can't put my finger on it.
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Parachute posted:I really love Patrick & Gina Neely. Granted, they are married so the chemistry should be there, but whenever I catch their show I can't help but feel like they not only truly love cooking/eating, but genuinely love just being around each other. They annoy the hell out of me. I'd watch a show with Samuelsson and Zakarian as the leads (not judging) any day of the week though.
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Am I the only person who would like to see a show that chronicles the adventures and battles on the line in a busy kitchen during service? I dont watch hells kitchen, cant get over the way he disrespects ppl. I feel like a lot of these foodies and ppl who watch these shows have no idea what its like working BOH service. I felt such a rush at work, and none of these shows are trying to captialize on it. Rob Irvine does the best job with Rest. Impossible, and I couldnt disagree more with the poster who said that he thinks irvine is a wanna be Ramsey.
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You're right, if he really wanted to be like Ramsay he would have earned his credentials rather than making them up.
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I honestly think FN wants Irvine to be Ramsey far more than Irvine actually wants to be Ramsey.
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 I guess so, is there anything out there to satisfy what im looking for?Also thank you so much for the Iron Chef Collection link earlier, loving goons always deliver.
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No Butt Stuff posted:They annoy the hell out of me. I'd watch a show with Samuelsson and Zakarian as the leads (not judging) any day of the week though. I'd like to see either of them doing just a cooking show. I miss those shows, where a competent chef would just sort of cook with you in a calm television environment. No wacky props, brass bands, stupid clocks or smug judges. Either Zakarian or Samuelsson would rock that format. The last good one I can remember was Molto Mario. 
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OrangeCrush posted:
You might like the original series that exposed Gordon Ramsey to the world which was called Boiling Point. Rather than being a reality show it was just a doc that followed him as he was opening a restaurant and trying to get a Michelin Star.
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axleblaze posted:You might like the original series that exposed Gordon Ramsey to the world which was called Boiling Point. Rather than being a reality show it was just a doc that followed him as he was opening a restaurant and trying to get a Michelin Star. Looks great, thank you.
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OrangeCrush posted:Looks great, thank you. There's a Canadian show that I've caught on Planet Green a few times called Conviction Kitchen. It's a chef (who was in prison) opening a restaurant with the staff comprised almost completely of former prisoners. There's a lot of drama with the people making lovely life decisions and how that effects the restaurant, but there's also some service drama. You might also like Chef Hunter, it follows a couple chefs as they individually take over the kitchen of a restaurant in a bid to become the executive chef. It's not gimmicky built around the cameras, it seems to me like cameras a process that would happen anyway.
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