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Farseli posted:Personally, I'd like to rules about ramming and death from above. I can't occupy the same space and we don't have arms to push with, but could the legs kick? I know we move using wheels in the toes or something and that is probably one reason we can face anyway we want to when we move. Pretty cool thinking of the pods just sliding around. Well the easy solution would be to do something like Size/10 for damage on a DFA or ramming attack or something similar... But there already are melee weapons in the game, and it's hard enough to use them so I wouldn't want to remove their shine any further. I also sort of think that if two pods got in a head-on they would just kind of bounce off each other... They are kinetically-resistant spheres after all.. Besides, I hear it's  if the pods touch.
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And now, The PodPron channel presents: Hot Pod on Pod Action 53! But yeah, ramming and death from above would be sort of interesting, although I prefer the oldschool, Battletech way of doing it (yeah, sure, you can do it, but it's a desperation move at best, and a quick way to get killed at worst... remember, lose your legs, lose yer mech!) Obviously, it's a bit early to do any sort of analysis, but I'll be working on some mech analyses, posting them off to Gravedust, and writing future Mech-Wreck reports when I have the time.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 18:30 |
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Over under on number of matches before we take out an enemy assembler: 10. Place your bets gentlemen!
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 18:41 |
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Pssh, no more than 5.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 18:48 |
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If I destroy our own Assembler, do I get bonus points?
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 19:34 |
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Green Intern posted:If I destroy our own Assembler, do I get bonus points? Better than that: you get your own prototype pod! I know it just looks like a bumper car with a nailbomb glued to the dashboard, but I assure you, it's a highly advanced design. It just smells like hobo pee to fool the enemy.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 19:49 |
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SA-TOSS Overdrive four south Fire Lance at Assembler
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 20:01 |
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How about non-damaging rams that push the other pod into another square? You could knock targets out of cover or even off of a cliff and make them take falling damage!Dauntasa posted:SA-TOSS SA-TOSS let you put that in? What the hell is wrong with this program? Farseli fucked around with this message at Dec 7, 2011 around 20:50 |
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Farseli posted:How about non-damaging rams that push the other pod into another square? You could knock targets out of cover or even off of a cliff and make them take falling damage! Falling damage is [Size/10]x[#squares fallen], in case anyone was interested.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 20:53 |
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Farseli posted:How about non-damaging rams that push the other pod into another square? You could knock targets out of cover or even off of a cliff and make them take falling damage! non or low- damaging, anyway. Fall damage seems quite low, actually.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 20:57 |
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Captain Foo posted:non or low- damaging, anyway. Fall damage seems quite low, actually. Hmn.. yeah I guess that's true.. Might be better to go with [size/5]
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 21:21 |
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Depends how badly you want to penalize people who don't take jump-jets. Speaking as a future Gladius pilot, I say leave the falling damage mild. 
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 21:32 |
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You have to fall at least 2 height to take it unless Gravedust adds in shoving with uncontrolled falls or decides to use the graphic for walls to also designate when a 1 height change is not some climbable incline, but just a drop. Then any fall where you land on something that isn't your feet could be bad. Ghost of Starman: Check out the pod design thread and tell me what you think of the Gladius Mk2 with increased lasers. Everyone else: Find a way to have the Assembler fire coffee in my direction.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 21:39 |
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Ha ha, I love it! I humbly suggest we dub it either the "Scimitar" or the "Cutlass," and I would be proud to take it out on to the battlefield. I'm worried it'll rack up Sig like a motherfucker, though; can I still encourage you to make additional variants for my perusal?
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 21:57 |
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Of course! I'll post the Scimitar in the Gladius thread though since it still is a Gladius. I'll just call it the Gladius Mk2 Beta "Scimitar". I'll start on the up-shield Gamma next.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 22:07 |
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Dauntasa posted:SA-TOSS Farseli posted:SA-TOSS let you put that in? What the hell is wrong with this program? code:
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 22:15 |
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I'm making a version of the Selkis with a defensive hacking unit in it (so 0 range) and I wanted to know how they worked. Do they apply automatically without any increase in signature or energy use? I've been looking at Signature as a mix of heat and EM signals being emitted by a pod, and thus a passive hacking unit with no range wouldn't be sending out signals. Also, can a defending device only apply the bonus to one hack per round? What happens if a defending unit has more than one hacking device? Farseli fucked around with this message at Dec 7, 2011 around 23:26 |
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Farseli posted:Of course! I'll post the Scimitar in the Gladius thread though since it still is a Gladius. I'll just call it the Gladius Mk2 Beta "Scimitar". I'll start on the up-shield Gamma next. Digging the Gladius Mk2-JJ! Might I recommend the name 'Rapier' as a bit of a lighter, more precise weapon? Either that or the Spatha, the Roman sword used from horseback (i.e. above  ).Also, Assembler should be heading due south, no overdrive.
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| # ? Dec 7, 2011 23:48 |
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Farseli posted:I'm making a version of the Selkis with a defensive hacking unit in it (so 0 range) and I wanted to know how they worked. Do they apply automatically without any increase in signature or energy use? I've been looking at Signature as a mix of heat and EM signals being emitted by a pod, and thus a passive hacking unit with no range wouldn't be sending out signals. Bingo. It only generates sig or uses energy if you actually "fire" it. If it's just sitting there looking cool it doesn't effect your sig or energy, like any other weapon. Farseli posted:Also, can a defending device only apply the bonus to one hack per round? What happens if a defending unit has more than one hacking device? That is a drat excellent question. Defending device bonuses don't stack so in the case of 2 Defensive nodes with different values (say 40 and 10) I'd use the higher value.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 00:56 |
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That defeats my plan then. I was thinking of making a 1 bonus hacking device that would simply be used to distract a defensive device.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 02:58 |
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Farseli posted:That defeats my plan then. I was thinking of making a 1 bonus hacking device that would simply be used to distract a defensive device. eeeeeeeeeeeeevil.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 03:06 |
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Probably for the best. The fluff text would be that it pretty much just tried to send a ton of pop-up ads asking if you wanted a bigger railgun or a larger capacitor so that you could keep going throughout the fight. That way, once their guard was down dealing with spam, the main deck could go in through a back door.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 04:42 |
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Farseli posted:Probably for the best. The fluff text would be that it pretty much just tried to send a ton of pop-up ads asking if you wanted a bigger railgun or a larger capacitor so that you could keep going throughout the fight. That way, once their guard was down dealing with spam, the main deck could go in through a back door. You son of a bitch, you stole my joke! *sigh* Well it's too late to change it now...
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:22 |
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==================================== ::MISSION ONE :: DOWN AND OUT:: ROUND 2:: ===================================== ==================================== ::::::::::::::::::::::BATTLECOMM::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN2Rvjn_5UQ ==================================== ============ PLAYER TURN ============== • Kaboom Dragoon bravely takes initiative with an advance! Unfortunately his hacking suite doesn't have quite the range to do what he wants. • Farseli darts off to the side, then jets backwards into a copse of petrified joshua trees, (perhaps) craftily anticipating the enemy's next move. • Kata-Haro advances in his mighty Sovern, taking an opposite route towards the enemies on the Southwestern hill. • Slaan sets his pod into motion, making the ground tremble both with his own footsteps and the twin heavy rockets he sends up. • Green Intern's fingers fly over his keypads as he barks out several orders to his onboard helper AI's. The discs on the back of his pod hum almost imperceptibly as his systems probe the enemy's for a weak spot. Aboard Brown three, Pressley blinks in surprise as his Autocannon suddenly takes itself offline for a self-diagnostic. • Jihad Joe stumbles slightly going up the hill and accidentally kills a prairie dog. ((insufficient movement to reach your destination on account of a height change, but it hardly matters. 1 square difference.)) ::::::::SA-TOSS:::::: CALCULATING VOTES…. COLLATING… CONSENSUS ACHIEVED! NOVA-LANCE PREFIRING SEQUENCE ACTIVATED! [Surgeon General's Warning:] Looking directly at the nova lance may cause severe blindness. BROWN 1: Hey guys, is that thing pointed at m- <CONTACT LOST>  =========== ENEMY TURN =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- enCRYPT KEEPER SPONSORED LINK: Do you want a bigger, thicker particle beam in just 2 weeks? Make their shields drop and armor flow like water … With EXXXTENDA brand particle beam enhancers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BROWN 3: Holy poo poo! BROWN 4: Holy poo poo! BROWN 6: Holy poo poo! BROWN 5: Holy poo poo! BROWN 2: Dude that guy was an rear end in a top hat anyway. BROWN 5: ... Yeah he sort of was. BROWN 3: Hey guys? ...Yeah my gun stopped working. BROWN 2: Was there an error message? BROWN 3: Yeah. BROWN 2: Did you READ the error message? BROWN 3: No. BROWN 2: ... BROWN 2: All right everyone, counterattack! GO GO GO! • Brown 2 launches a missile nearly blind, and unsurprisingly it fails to lock onto Green Intern's tiny pod. Working quickly with his holographic display, his AI routines do however manage to cause a mechanical jam in one of Slaan's artillery tubes by injecting the loading mechanism with contradicting orders. • Brown 3 advances to an advantageous firing position, then with nothing better to do.. Makes shooty noises while pointing his finger as his weapon finishes it's self-diagnostic. (Good news, buddy! everything seems to be working okay!) • Brown 4 hops up on top of the bluff and unleashes a fusillade of fire, all of which fails to intersect with Kata-Haro's heavily shielded pod due to his uncanny piloting acumen. • Brown 5 crests the hill with guns blazing and manages to score a hit with it's energy weapons though they do not penetrate Jihad Joe's shielding. BROWN 6: Hey! Hey guys! .. Watch! • Brown 6 descends the steep slope down to the floor of the valley and fires his energy weapon, which fizzles against the Assembler's polyshields, completely inneffectual. BROWN 6: Ha HA! Awesome.  Reserve List: ############# Gradenko_2000 Frogmarched Dauntasa Vateke Jng2058 Atomikkrab - Nimby SageNytell Noun Verber Empyreal The JJ Cokerpilot - Ghost of Starman Gamerofthegame Bunnyofdoom Captain Foo Captain Bravo dis astranagant - Balk Sillyman Pladdicus ########## Decide the actions of the Assembler! Only the above players may vote ::::NAVIGATION:::: A: Move North B: Move East C: Move South D: Move West E: No Movement (Majority rules) - Optional: Propose an Overdrive move! (4 square movement in the direction decided by the navigation vote. Lowers Shields.) (If 50% or more agree on Overdrive, it will be activated) ::::GUNNERY CONTROL:::: (If 25% or more agree on a single target, the weapon will fire) (The Nova Lance damages all pods and along it's path) NOVA LANCE RECHARGING! ================================================================= Community Announcements! The winner (With a grand total of 2 votes in what was possibly the worst contest ever) of the "what pod gets illustrated next?" prize is the Will o' Wisp. So I'll be drawing that next. =================================== ROUND CLOSES THURSDAY AT 7PM PACIFIC =================================== Gravedust fucked around with this message at Dec 8, 2011 around 08:19 |
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I submit that the official sound effect of SA Assembler #19's Nova Lance vaporizing an enemy 'Pod is "BZORTCH!" ---  : *calmly starts another pot of coffee brewing*
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:44 |
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Honestly, I think the Nova Lance is a wee bit overpowered, because OHK a pod every two turns? Maybe make it cause a percentage damage (75% of total mech health) or something?
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:49 |
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It is only every 5 turns and the pods have to give it some kind of LoS. These guys didn't know it could do that. We won't always have it with us either. This is our base of operations, it has to be difficult to take out.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:55 |
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Those diagrams and descriptions are simply magical. I'm so looking forward to the rest of this thread.  ...I also support 'bzortch' as a sound effect.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:56 |
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"Enemy 'mech down! Drink!" Pilot 'the' JJ bites the tube of his no-spill, no-hands, Liquid Containment and Delivery Device (Mark V, Mechpilot's Edition) and takes a long swallow. "Chumps."
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:58 |
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Alright,  Pilot orders for this turn.1. Hack Brown 3 - Disable Shields! (Hoping for some damage from arty) 2. Hack Brown 3 - Disable Cannon! (I really like picking on this dude, apparently.) 3. Move to S7, facing south. Time to get some more cover, especially if I'm going to be hacking this much. Excellent! A really good first exchange of fire! Let's focus on knocking off the smaller guys first. It's not too much of a hassle for me to disable Brown 3's only weapon every turn, making him not much more than a big pile of armor. I wish I could disable Brown 6 a little more decisively. But his melee weapon is untouchable in that regard. I'm not sure if it's worth trying to spike his signature or kill his movement over locking down Brown 3 completely. I'm up for changing these orders slightly if there are better suggestions. I'm pretty interested to see what you have in mind for the Will O'Wisp, Gravedust.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 05:58 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:Honestly, I think the Nova Lance is a wee bit overpowered, because OHK a pod every two turns? Maybe make it cause a percentage damage (75% of total mech health) or something? Oh it's terribly overpowered, but it'll work out, I promise.  I've planned around getting 1 of my pods vaporized every 5 turns. This would be a terribly uneven fight even without the assembler, (3000 points vs. 4200) but it might even up a little soon. I'm not really limited to just 6 pods on the field. 
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:00 |
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Green Intern posted:I'm pretty interested to see what you have in mind for the Will O'Wisp, Gravedust. I am 87% certain it will involve curved lines of some nature. *sagenod*
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South! No Overdrive JNG sighed as the Nova Cannon vaporized the wrong pod. Granted, it looked very cool doing it, and the burning crater that followed the beam's path WAS pretty impressive, but he'd really wished those guys in Firing had aimed at the pod that was actually coming after the Assembler! Well, no hope for it now. They just had to trust in the skill and professionalism of the deployed pilots and... Wait, gently caress that, he still had his trusty Comms button! "Hey, can you guys out there take out Pod 6 before he carves up your ride? You guys DO want to be able to come home, right? I mean, all your stuff is in here!"
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:06 |
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I feel the need to confess that I tried to mock-up a Will O'Wisp based on palette-swapping the Gargoyle. It turns out image editing software is more complicated than it looks!
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:07 |
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So my artillery launched last turn, but this turn I cannot fire either of my artillery batteries? If so, I will Hold Position and fire my missile launcher at B3 and fire 1 arty tube at Z25 vvv Thanks Slaan fucked around with this message at Dec 8, 2011 around 06:40 |
| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:16 |
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Slaan posted:So my artillery launched last turn, but this turn I cannot fire either of my artillery batteries? 1 of your launchers is disabled, the other still works fine, if that's your question. Otherwise you can totally fire your arty again while your first shots are still in the air.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:24 |
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 It's been brought to my attention that I've left something incredibly crucial out of the movement rules. Here it is: ------------- Terrain can effect movement as well. Moving up from one terrain height to a higher one costs an extra movement point. Moving down an elevation does not incur an extra movement cost. ------------- A rule so integral to the movement system that I apparently assumed I'd already added it, and then never actually did.
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| # ? Dec 8, 2011 06:47 |
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Gravedust posted:Terrain can effect movement as well. Moving up from one terrain height to a higher one costs an extra movement point. Moving down an elevation does not incur an extra movement cost. In that case, just to make sure, the Assembler ignores this rule when moving? Or can any pod move up an elevation level on their last point? Edit: Oh yeah, and: code:Sillyman fucked around with this message at Dec 8, 2011 around 07:20 |
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^^^^^I believe that the Assembler ignores it...or it has to overdrive. This was mentioned in the pod submission for the GOLIATH ADS system. It has 1 move and Gravedust said a hill could beat it. If we sig spike unshielded guys they become easy pickings for the missiles too. I know Slaan can't this turn, but if they are still there on the next turn it would be great if he could split his fire between both of the elevation 3 spots. ---Farseli's Data Log--- A burst of static washed out the main screen as the Nova Lance fired. The enormous signature spike from the Assembler was forcing his sensors to readjust. "Computer, get eyes on Brown 1" ERROR: Target pod not found. "What? Patch me into the Assembler's camera." Looking into one of the smaller screens near his controls, Farseli could see what looked like a scorched line in the ground leading to where Brown 1 had been seconds ago. "Holy poo poo! Next time I won't skip the briefing!" ===Five days ago=== Location: Farseli's room about the Assembler on route to Shezar. Sitting at his computer, Farseli clicked the spam folder on his mail account. "Oh sweet, I just won a Kesmian lottery! Except for the fact that Kesmia was blown up like 3 years ago. Delete." He sighed as he deleted all his messages since there wasn't ever anything good. As he was about to close the program, a new message appeared in his inbox. It was the first to skip his spam folder in a few days. To: Rokuen "Farseli" Haniel Subject: Get to know the Assembler! "What is this? Okay yeah, builds pods, has rooms, coffee maker on the 3rd floor. Shields blah blah Nova Lance blah blur blee whatever. Poops pods and keeps me warm. Delete." ===Present day=== Spotting a target bobbing around the top of the hill, he itched for his trigger, but he couldn't get a bead on the guy. He instead opted for the comm switch. "I can't hit him from here, I'm going to swing around to the east. See if you guys can flush them from the hilltops." Grabbing the controls again, he sent his pod strafing though the petrified joshua trees to his left. As he burst into the clearing he hit the pedal linked to the jumpjet controls and punched the pod into the next area of cover. OrdersMove 5 east. Jump 3 south. Wish I had brought a handheld game. Final location P-27. Farseli fucked around with this message at Dec 8, 2011 around 22:28 |
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Sillyman posted:In that case, just to make sure, the Assembler ignores this rule when moving? Or can any pod move up an elevation level on their last point? The Assembler specifically gets to ignore the terrain movement rule since it only moves 1 under normal circumstances. I actually had that mentioned on the first round update but it disappeared in subsequent updates. Le sigh. I'll add it back in. Very astute question though.
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