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tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Strawberry Panda posted:

Can someone explain to me some of the offensive schemes? I started watching last season when my best friend got league pass and I started reading the threads. I always got confused on what and iso offense actually is. I'm still a bit confused on the positions and what they are supposed to do.

An "iso" is an Isolation play, and basically consists of maneuvering the defense to one side and letting a player from your team go one-on-one with a player who is less able than him. So an Iso for the Los Angeles Lakers, for example, would be four players moving quickly around the court and drawing their defenders away from Kobe, who would then (hopefully) be able to get around his defender and either make a mid-range jumper, a 3-pointer, or drive to the basket for a layup or dunk.

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tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


I'm writing a quick post explaining the positions

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Positions:

Backcourt

The Point Guard, or 1 (referring to the 5 spots on a basketball team), is traditionally the player responsible for running a team's offense and making plays. They must be able to pass accurately and quickly and be good communicators. Most point guards are usually smaller, quicker players who can use their speed to confuse the defense and set their teammates up for open shots.

The Shooting Guard, or 2, is usually taller than the PG, but still shorter than most forwards. His job is to finish plays and score. A competent SG should be a reliable scoring option for his team in any situation, although of course some SGs are famous for one type of scoring in particular (Michael Jordan for his ability to score from mid-range and close to the basket, Ray Allen for his long-range shooting). Shorter SGs can usually play the PG position as well, and taller SGs sometimes play the 3 position.

Frontcourt

The Small Forward, or 3, is the jack-of-all trades on the court. Different teams have different uses for their SFs, but they're usually good scorers, good passers, and okay rebounders. Since it depends on the team, SFs can be used in a lot of ways. Some are great at defense (Scottie Pippen), some are accurate 3-point shooters, and some are just great at scoring (Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony).

The Power Forward, or 4, is along with the Center, one of the "big men" positions, the really tall guys who are able to force their way close to the hoop and score from inside. They and the center are responsible for getting rebounds (getting possession of the ball after a shot misses). Power Forwards are usually shorter than centers, and are by tradition a bit more versatile. PFs are usually good post players (positioning yourself with your back to the basket, and then maneuvering around the defender for an open shot at the hoop), and many are capable mid-range (Pau Gasol) or even 3-point shooters (Dirk Nowitzki).

The Center, or 5, is the big guy who is concerned above all else with rebounding the ball, defending the paint (the colored section of the basketball court near the hoop), and scoring from the inside. Because 7 foot human beings are relatively rare, there are only so many "true" centers playing the position, and many teams play relatively undersized PFs at the position for lack of talented big men. A talented center is a huge asset to any team, and some are so good they can elevate fringe teams to instant contenders, like Dwight Howard. Scoring-wise, most centers focus on scoring in the paint, and the position is not known for accurate outside shooting. Some centers use silky-smooth footwork to get around defenders in the paint (Hakeem Olajuwon), and some use their sheer size and bulk to slam opponents out of the way while they're getting to the basket (Shaquille O'Neal).

e: There are exceptions to each position, of course. Some players are much bigger than most in the position (Magic Johnson was a 6'9'' point guard), or smaller (Charles Barkley is like 6'5'' and one of the greatest Power Forwards of all time).

tatankatonk fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2011 around 05:52

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


thegloaming posted:

Are there still preseason games this week?


Are there archetypical players for each position (obviously, that's subjective, but it seems like you know enough to come up with something)?


Where's the best place to stream? I feel like I'd be taping shows until February since football games are usually on my television set during the weekends (although it might be fun to experience and NBA vs. NFL argument when there's a scheduling conflict).


It's good to hear that there are games every night. I agree that less planning and more watching is a good idea, so I'll try to catch the next game that's on and ask specific game-related questions afterwards.


Thanks for the link!

The first page has a ton of information on basketball basics. And yes, the Clippers are going to be really fun to watch this year! The preseason game won me over

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Rick posted:

Being a Clipper fan as an alternative to cheering for the Lakers is like cheering Mussolini instead of Hitler. Either way you're cheering on the same Axis except you're cheering on the pathetic part run by a tiny slumlord, and in the end the people you're goosestepping with are still the Nazis.

Cheer for the Warriors or Kings if you want moral superiority and still want to go for a California team.

Just to be clear, this is hyperbole and you can be a fan of whatever team you want

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


thegloaming posted:

OK. Here's the plan:

I will be following the Clippers.

My to-do list for the week:

- Watch some preseason games
- Look for articles in my local paper (I'm not sure I'll find anything good; I think my city is unanimously pro-Lakers)
- Join a fantasy league (still not sure how I should go about doing this)
- Read the first page of this thread
- Read the Wikipedia entry on basketball
- Read Meet the Team thread

I bookmarked firstrowsports, Clips Nation, and SBNation.

Also I don't know what N/V and GDT mean.

Sweet, another brand new Clippers fan That meet the team entry is probably outdated by now with the Paul trade. And hey, next game is tomorrow night! It's gonna be a great year

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Hey thegloaming did you manage to catch monday's game? It was pretty sweet

http://www.nba.com/video/games/lake..._lal_play1.nba/

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


thegloaming posted:

Huh. I always thought all away uniforms were white. So does that mean that the Clippers weren't wearing their usual home uniforms?

Cool video on the court changes. I like how the total area for the Lakers is half the size so that they can sell more seats... seems like the Clippers might need to "down-size" too this year...

Home jerseys are usually white (some teams like the lakers have unique home colors), road jerseys are the colored ones

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Tahm Bwady posted:

Can anyone summarize the whole deal with the Maloofs and Sacremento? From what I understand the Maloofs were going to agree to a stadium deal the backed out at the last second but that doesn't seem like all of it.

Here's a good recap from a blog covering the team: http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2012/...lace-left-to-go

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


H-Tail posted:

Beware the curse of Odom

Somewhere an E! executive just got a terrible idea

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tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011


Sodbury posted:

Could someone explain to me why Harden comes off of the bench for OKC? I assumed it was because Sefolosha is the better defender and is best used against the opposition's starters (at the moment, guarding Kobe), and Harden is best used to replace Westbrook/Durant to keep the bench's offense as good as that of the starters.

Yeah, pretty much. He comes in to keep the tempo of the game up, and he's probably their best ball-handler. When he's on the floor, he runs the offense really really well, so they can either bring him in to switch their offense up if the starters are floundering or let him rest and come out with the bench later. They always have him close out games, so it's just a weird rotation quirk, not like a coach feud or anything.

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