Heroes of Newerth: Maliken (Mentor): winvirus nooo

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d[-.-]b: Aug 1, 2004; my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG

Synnr posted:

I don't exactly see how this "naturally" better. Do you have small hands/short fingers/something like that? xcvbn are dreadfully uncomfortable to strike even from wert, why not just use 1234 and space/caps for items and leave the qwer that everyone is used to.

I didn't say it's naturally better. I said it's better because it feels more natural. Whatever setup you use that erases as much of the interface as possible to allow you to focus on doing things in game is a better setup than default. Pr0 asked how he could improve, and I told him my system, which worked for me.

I did say it would take time to get used to, which may be why you think it's dreadfully uncomfortable. I can tell you that it isn't uncomfortable for me, and I can palm a basketball if that's what you want to know. I don't use numbers because 1 is for my hero, 2 is for shop, and 3 is for courier. I probably should have said that before, but I forgot.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 05:45

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# ? May 22, 2013 04:20

Synnr: Dec 29, 2009

d[-.-]b posted:

I didn't say it's naturally better. I said it's better because it feels more natural. Whatever setup you use that erases as much of the interface as possible to allow you to focus on doing things in game is a better setup than default. Pr0 asked how he could improve, and I told him my system, which worked for me.

I did say it would take time to get used to, which may be why you think it's dreadfully uncomfortable. I can tell you that it isn't uncomfortable for me, and I can palm a basketball if that's what you want to know. I don't use numbers because 1 is for my hero, 2 is for shop, and 3 is for courier. I probably should have said that before, but I forgot.

Well I mean you said stuff like "naturally better player" and limiting "natural ability," but I got you. I have kind of a spidery hand stance going on and just loop around qwer with three fingers and the left side keys with a pinkie. 1234 for quickslot and all that jazz. I will agree that the default keys in general are horrendous. Who the hell is going to do alt/shift combos in the heat of combat.

My weird dual-language keyboard with teensie buttons on the side probably helps with button usage though.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 05:53

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

Kild posted:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/s...tillery-Changes!&p=15043357

They really wanted your money.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

... well played S2... well PLAYED

# ? Apr 11, 2012 06:02

EightBit: Jan 7, 2006; I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

I don't have any trouble queueing pkey during magmus ult with the default keys, but consistent item placement is a very important tactic. For me, boots are always alt+w, the most frequent item is alt+q, safety stuff goes to alt+s.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 12:15

KayGee: Nov 23, 2011; Orks is da biggest and da strrrrongest.

Dre2Dee2 posted:

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

... well played S2... well PLAYED

That's really pissed me off. $2 at it's finest.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 12:56

guppy: Sep 21, 2004; sting like a byob

Yeah, I have a similar setup, though my "main item" key is Alt+E. I've hosed up important Portal Key initiations because I forgot to put my pkey in the right slot (it's the first thing I do when I buy it now -- in fact, I usually shuffle things around so that that's the first empty slot before I buy it, so it goes right in).

# ? Apr 11, 2012 12:57

Siets: Sep 19, 2006; NEON. POSTING.

As much as the gundam doesn't fit within the HoNiverse, I would have much preferred it to Generic Contra Guy.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 14:03

Gibbis Fourthmeal: May 22, 2006; hi this is tobako lookin forward to roastin some pig tonight

At least they didn't make a gender swap skin for him.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 15:00

Skyl3lazer: Aug 27, 2007; Lwaxana Troi makes an unscheduled visit to the ship, demands to marry THE WARP CORE.

Kild posted:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/s...tillery-Changes!&p=15043357

They really wanted your money.

I'm really happy with this actually, the gundam is so loving out of place.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 15:13

Terebus: Feb 17, 2007

SHITPOST.BAT posted:

I'm really happy with this actually, the gundam is so loving out of place.

Generic GI Joe is better somehow?

# ? Apr 11, 2012 15:54

Minrad: Sep 26, 2007; He wants a much bigger lamp than the little ones I have.

SHITPOST.BAT posted:

I'm really happy with this actually, the gundam is so loving out of place.

The other skin isn't any better since it's just generic Contra guy with a regular minigun and shoulder missile launchers. The lore they posted; how is it any different from if they dug up a working robot?

It's just more typical money grubbing by S2 because nobody cared for the regular skin so now they can profit off the EA skin better while simultaneously looking better in the eyes of the community.

Also the Gundam still exists and it's still the only version of the hero you'll see thanks to EA for the first month

# ? Apr 11, 2012 16:07

seizure later: Apr 18, 2007

Kild posted:

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/s...tillery-Changes!&p=15043357

They really wanted your money.

Makes alternate skin much worse than default. Swaps them so you have to pay to get better skin. Business.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 16:07

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

d[-.-]b posted:

I don't use numbers because 1 is for my hero, 2 is for shop, and 3 is for courier.

I take it you never play Ophelia

# ? Apr 11, 2012 16:14

NerdPolice: Jun 18, 2005

d[-.-]b posted:

Ok, here are my super secret pro hotkeys. Staying with the default hotkeys limits so much of your natural ability, so that's why it's necessary to change them. Once you get used to them, actions will feel so much more natural to you, thereby allowing you to concentrate less on trying to do and more on doing. Also, I'll tell you my item placement, which also contributes heavily to more natural interfacing.

For item hotkeys, item slots 1 through 3 go on XCV. Slot 4 is SPACE, and 5-6 are BN. For ability hotkeys, move your QWER over a slot to WERT. This placement naturally puts your pinky in a position to hit A for attack. It also puts your ring in place to hit S for stop and your W skill, and your middle finger in place to hit X and your E skill. Your pointer gets extra duties because it's your best finger, so it manages R, T (your ult), C, V, B, and N. It may seem like a lot to handle, but that's where item placement comes in.

Always place your mana battery/psupply on X. Whatever boots you have besides striders go on SPACE. Tabcom/PK will go on V. Bottle goes on C. If you're not mid, then whatever other important item you have will go on C, too. Usually, this is a hatchet for me. Your first big item goes on B. Finally, always put your non-activateable items on N. Getting used to the consistency of always placing the same items in the same spot will greatly improve your ability to do what you want when you want by taking the thinking out of it and making it automatic.

And finally, for starting items, I always put runes on X, health pot on V, and mana pots on C unless I also got a hatchet (like when I play Devo). You're going to have problems adjusting to these hotkeys, but once you get used to them, you'll be a naturally better player.

Most of my items are mouse buttons. Space tends to be my boots button, mainly for ghosts but I will sometimes swap items into it. My sideclick buttons where my thumb sits has my stop-hold button, with item 1 just above it. Item 2 is my middle click, with wheel mouse up being taunt and down tabbing between units -- I see no need to zoom in so there is no need to zoom out.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 16:23

d[-.-]b: Aug 1, 2004; my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG

Elman posted:

I take it you never play Ophelia

I don't ever choose to, you're right. When I do play her, though, I select things more than using hotkeys. And I play in a different way than most Ophelias. Once I finish Helm of Dom, any creep taken with that gets sent to the fountain for a future endgame push. Since those are unlimited, it's important to keep them separate from creeps commanded with Oph's spell. Those creeps are disposable and can be used to push outer towers. Once there's an overwhelming number of dominated creeps, it's time to end the game.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 16:35

Aristobulus: Mar 20, 2007; Slap omni-gel on
everything.

These avatars paid for Lowtax new boat.

seizure later posted:

Makes alternate skin much worse than default. Swaps them so you have to pay to get better skin. Business.

I know that's ultimately why they did it, but personally I'm okay with it in this case because I'm selfish and really don't like the Mech.

I mean, that doesn't mean I have any particular like for the Man skin. I don't, I'm completely neutral on it, but I really felt the Mech was out of place. The Man one is just boring, and I'll gladly rather take that rather than seeing the Mech everywhere.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 17:49

Siets: Sep 19, 2006; NEON. POSTING.

d[-.-]b posted:

I don't ever choose to, you're right. When I do play her, though, I select things more than using hotkeys. And I play in a different way than most Ophelias. Once I finish Helm of Dom, any creep taken with that gets sent to the fountain for a future endgame push. Since those are unlimited, it's important to keep them separate from creeps commanded with Oph's spell. Those creeps are disposable and can be used to push outer towers. Once there's an overwhelming number of dominated creeps, it's time to end the game.

This sounds hilarious and actually makes me want to try Ophelia now. You wouldn't happen to have any replays of this would you?

# ? Apr 11, 2012 18:41

YouTuber: Jul 31, 2004

d[-.-]b posted:

I don't ever choose to, you're right. When I do play her, though, I select things more than using hotkeys. And I play in a different way than most Ophelias. Once I finish Helm of Dom, any creep taken with that gets sent to the fountain for a future endgame push. Since those are unlimited, it's important to keep them separate from creeps commanded with Oph's spell. Those creeps are disposable and can be used to push outer towers. Once there's an overwhelming number of dominated creeps, it's time to end the game.

The proper way to play that is to send one creep to your ancient spawn and stack the poo poo out of it and jump 5-6 levels at once.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 19:37

Kild: Apr 24, 2010

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/s...ion-and-updates!&p=15044789#post15044789

S2DivA posted:

Hey guys,

Part of our recent changes toward improving our community involves increasing our interaction with you guys. We want to constantly increase the transparency with what we do and offer you guys insight into what goes down at the S2 Games office and what it's like making a video game that we ourselves love playing. With that said, I am going to make my first foray into Twitterworld... I'm completely new to it so be a pal and come hang out with me!

A bit about me: Hi, I'm Pu! I have been with S2 for 2 years now, and have filled the roles of Lead Game Designer of HoN, Director of Sales, Director of Creative Design, and I am now the Executive Director of HoN. It's a pretty cool title because if you meld 'Executive Director' into one word, you get 'Executor' - and Tassadar is a boss. I've done and said some dumb things in the past, but I like to think that I'm moving beyond that, so please bear with and help me in becoming a better person and professional. Those of you who love me, let's have some fun together. Those of you who don't know me, you'll want to - I have a big mouth, I'll leak cool stuff. Those of you who loathe me, get to know me better and maybe you'll find that some of your notions were ill-conceived (or well-founded, if you loathe me for my good looks~).

I will be using my Twitter account to give insights and updates as to what's going on in glorious Kalamazoo, Michigan at the S2 Games office, upload pictures of the office and your favorite S2 employees, and quite frankly a lot of random other things that fall under the umbrella of "appropriate to share with the community." I will even be taking requests, since my entire goal is to engage with you guys and give you guys a face to put on your stuffed animals or dart boards. Hopefully the former

So follow me @S2Whisper and hang out, and ask me any questions you might have for me or S2. I'll be sure to answer as many as I can!

# ? Apr 11, 2012 19:45

Mikujin: May 25, 2010; (also a lightning rod)

The worst part is that he's been there 2 years and filled twice as many positions within the company.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 19:58

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

I've never had a problem with Diva, but then it's not like I've ever talked to him either...

# ? Apr 11, 2012 20:56

Wezlar: May 13, 2005

How do you go from Lead Game Designer to Director of Sales? That's the biggest

to me.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 21:26

Mikujin: May 25, 2010; (also a lightning rod)

It just goes to show that the company's own internal organization is fairly volatile when you can move around that much that quickly.

# ? Apr 11, 2012 21:37

Guilty: May 3, 2003; I AM IN A DIFFICULT AND UNENVIABLE SITUATION AND I AM WORKING IT OUT THROUGH HONEST AND OPEN COMMUNICATION

It's like they just randomly give out titles

# ? Apr 11, 2012 22:13

d[-.-]b: Aug 1, 2004; my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG

Siets posted:

This sounds hilarious and actually makes me want to try Ophelia now. You wouldn't happen to have any replays of this would you?

I'd love to give a replay, but all the hon stats sites aren't working, and it's been pushed out of my top games played. If someone has a working stats site, I'm sure I could find a game or two.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 00:48

Kild: Apr 24, 2010

...Soon?

I thought it was April that was the busy month.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 01:10

MeramJert: Jul 2, 2005; I'M TOO GOOD TO EAT HUMAN HAIR

d[-.-]b posted:

I'd love to give a replay, but all the hon stats sites aren't working, and it's been pushed out of my top games played. If someone has a working stats site, I'm sure I could find a game or two.

You won't find a working hon stats site because S2's XML backend that they all use has been down for months

# ? Apr 12, 2012 02:28

Andrigaar: Dec 12, 2003; Saint of Killers

MeramJert posted:

You won't find a working hon stats site because S2's XML backend that they all use has been down for months

Wait, so it's not that they revoked public access, but that it's broken?

At least they're consistent in leaving things broken.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 03:01

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

Is it because it was broken? I thought they intentionally brought it down...

# ? Apr 12, 2012 03:33

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

http://xml.heroesofnewerth.com/maintenance.php

quote:

XML Site - Temporarily Down

March 1, 2012 1:00pm EST:
The XML API will remain down until further notice.

Service will be brought back when it is possible.

Regards,
S2 Staff

# ? Apr 12, 2012 03:46

SirSamVimes: Jul 21, 2008; JIMMY JIMS?!

Artesia is such amazing fun. I love being able to drop an ult on someone and nuke them down as they flee from it.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 04:30

MeramJert: Jul 2, 2005; I'M TOO GOOD TO EAT HUMAN HAIR

Brannock posted:

http://xml.heroesofnewerth.com/maintenance.php

Before March 1st, it hadn't been working for months only they had been saying it would be back "soon". I don't know if it was originally brought down intentionally or if it was broken but I do know they did claim it would be back soon and that was a loooong time ago.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 04:56

MeramJert: Jul 2, 2005; I'M TOO GOOD TO EAT HUMAN HAIR

Hey whatever happened to the bots we were promised? Maide said they had an "awesome" feature about 2 months back and there's been nothing since then...

# ? Apr 12, 2012 04:59

Andrigaar: Dec 12, 2003; Saint of Killers

MeramJert posted:

Before March 1st, it hadn't been working for months only they had been saying it would be back "soon". I don't know if it was originally brought down intentionally or if it was broken but I do know they did claim it would be back soon and that was a loooong time ago.

HonTour
New map revision without hiding spot behind well
Midwars map
[would a more savvy addict please add more]

# ? Apr 12, 2012 05:00

d[-.-]b: Aug 1, 2004; my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG

Andrigaar posted:

HonTour
New map revision without hiding spot behind well
Midwars map
[would a more savvy addict please add more]

SotM changes for all heroes.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 05:52

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

d[-.-]b posted:

SotM changes for all heroes.

Was that officially announced, or only leaked?

I would add map editor, hasn't been updated since last year as far as I'm aware

# ? Apr 12, 2012 06:01

Zizzyx: Sep 18, 2007; INTERGALACTIC CAN CHAMPION

e: nvm

# ? Apr 12, 2012 07:04

Terebus: Feb 17, 2007

Andrigaar posted:

HonTour
New map revision without hiding spot behind well
Midwars map
[would a more savvy addict please add more]

HoN 3.0

EDIT: Anyone know what the deal is with this 8 hour maintenance?

# ? Apr 12, 2012 07:57

RickoniX: Dec 4, 2005; A human or elf?

NO NOT A BADGER YOU GOON

Dre2Dee2 posted:

Was that officially announced, or only leaked?

I would add map editor, hasn't been updated since last year as far as I'm aware

The map editor exists, it's just worthless because there is no way to play customs with more than 1 person

# ? Apr 12, 2012 12:48

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# ? May 22, 2013 04:20

d[-.-]b: Aug 1, 2004; my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG

Only 1.09 mmr away from regaining my status as an 1800 after a 9 game win streak. It almost makes me not want to play.

# ? Apr 12, 2012 17:44

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