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DONT CARE BUTTON posted:you don't get the symbols if you wait! Symbols are pretty useless, yeah. Now if they let us show more than one, maaaaaaybe  S.T.C.A. posted:Is there any Grimm's equivalent of Watchtower Wednesday? Grimms is pretty drat fun, I was surprised. Solo queueing for it seems like a non-option, though; I'm confused why I can't queue for both maps at once since they both affect the same MMR. Grimm's is the best alternative-dota map IMO and they should promote it by giving extra coins for playing it.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Which is itself confusing because I'm pretty sure the Grimm's meta is far more different than NM/CM. My friends and I have a greater than 90% win rate on Grimms just by picking pollywog, keeper, and basically whoever third (I like defiler). Polly rushes staff of the master asap, keeper rushes sols, and we just push/backdoor to victory. Because there's only 2 shorter than normal lanes to push, I haven't seen anybody actually able to defend against this. We've even won games where we were all 6+ levels behind all of them. The only loss I remember is when we fed so bad (like we were all 0-20-0) that their flint could solo mega creeps, which we still got anyway via backdooring. So yeah, the meta is different.
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| # ? Feb 6, 2012 20:02 |
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I recently moved and with my new internet connection I'm getting lots of what appears to be packet loss in hon. I'll get the DC icon, lose control of my hero and be unable to chat, but the game continues normally and suddenly all my inputs go in at once. It is incredibly frustrating because this is the only game I play online, and it effectively ruins the game. I've taken to picking heroes like jeraziah because even I end up helplessly watching as he walks into 4 enemies there is a halfway decent chance I can pop my abilities/items and walk away with a sliver of health and hopefully the bad dudes have blown their cooldowns and my ever so gank happy teamates can descend upon them.
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| # ? Feb 6, 2012 20:24 |
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Grimm's is the best alternative-dota map IMO and they should promote it by giving extra coins for playing it. Seriously, Grimm's is fast-paced, fun, and hugely different. Junglers become rune masters and capable of/required to be ganking almost non-stop. A lost teamfight or two results in losing your lane's only tower, and another means you're raxed and now down 50% income/defensive units. I played the map thinking EW and BH would be the defacto kings, but really, it's a pusher and ganker map by far. Devo, Keeper, Tort, Master of Arms, Defiler, etc all shine because of how the map tailors to their specific abilities. Even the juking is crazier on Grimm's because you have actual forests filled with tress to juke through. Although, I'm starting to think Ra is actually the king of Grimm's; stacking the easy camps, getting instant level 2, meteoring lanes and other jungle camps for a fast hotbl, and then just pushing to win. Going to have to try that next time it's a blue moon and a solo queue for Grimm's pops in less than 10 minutes before I give up.
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Shuka posted:I recently moved and with my new internet connection I'm getting lots of what appears to be packet loss in hon. I'll get the DC icon, lose control of my hero and be unable to chat, but the game continues normally and suddenly all my inputs go in at once. DUDE this happens to me ALL the time. It doesn't happen in ANY other game. I could go download at 4mb/s at the same time HoN is giving me this plug icon. Weird thing is people can hear my ingame voice lag-free while HoN is plugging me and my hero is running in random directions. I have no idea what to make of it, but somehow this is all s2's fault.
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| # ? Feb 6, 2012 22:06 |
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deetee posted:I have no idea what to make of it, but somehow this is all s2's fault. I used to have this problem when I was on wireless despite having a really high end wifi card and router that pushes 40Mbps sustained all day, and only in HoN. I think their lovely netcode doesn't handle the occasional lost packet as gracefully as other games, because unwinding the 25' of cat5 cable always makes this problem go away.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 03:38 |
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PUNCHITCHEWIE posted:I used to have this problem when I was on wireless despite having a really high end wifi card and router that pushes 40Mbps sustained all day, and only in HoN. I think their lovely netcode doesn't handle the occasional lost packet as gracefully as other games, because unwinding the 25' of cat5 cable always makes this problem go away. I had a friend who had this problem but he was consistently sure it was Teamspeak 3's fault. I dunno if he ever fixed it. The freezing thing has mostly not been a problem since the patch claiming to fix it, but I still have the game freezing on and off for a few minutes every few games. Seems to happen most when I'm first booting up and playing a game. I recently completely uninstalled and had a fresh install with no mods but it didn't fix anything.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 03:49 |
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I had that intermittent wifi connection cutout bug and after I bought a new router, it went away. So yeah, maybe that was it? Honestly I have no idea what started the problem so the solution is kinda lost on me
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 04:04 |
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Foodchain posted:Crossposting this here. I don't know if it's a placebo effect but it does seem to perform better. Thank you.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 05:12 |
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My new favorite hero is Ra. He is so idiot proof and stupidly easy (and fun!) to play. I love him. Really good initiator and solid in team fights.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 13:34 |
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Agro ver Haus doom posted:My new favorite hero is Ra. He is so idiot proof and stupidly easy (and fun!) to play. I love him. Really good initiator and solid in team fights. If you aren't already, after you get Steamboots, Hotbl, and Shaman's (if you need full-on shaman's instead of just mystic vestments that is) get Blademail. Blademail turns Ra from an already insane hero into someone who can wreck teams if he has even a minor farming edge over them. "Oh you wanted to kill me? I sure hope you like an additional few hundred magic damage on top of the hundreds I'm already dishing out!" It also incidentally gives him some much-needed armor. On the flipside, if the enemy team targetting you isn't an issue because of how buff you are, get buffer with Insanitarius. Or if you're like me and you like to be an rear end in a top hat to pubs, just rush Shieldbreaker or Frostburn. Shieldbreaker if you're tanky enough already, Frostburn if you want your own team to rage at you while pubbies cannot escape the slow of your Ignite plus the slow of your Frostburn while they melt in your AOE, unable to escape, only to hope to CC you (which will be hilarious if you have Blademail and pop it before the CC hits!). Daemonic as a finishing touch to either. Just remember that your goal should be 400GPM asap, don't settle for 300, and always carry TP because as you farm, TPing into teamfights usually means at least one kill for you if not a few hundred in assist gold, and then you go into the nearest jungle and resume farming as you make your way to a shop for TP. (Or ignore all of the above because really you should be getting Heart after HotBL at which point you win the game if you farmed it in the correct amount of time; it adds 965 HP and a ridiculous amount of regen, allowing you to deal amazing amounts of damage from your passive alone because you take SO much damage to kill, while helping your team because the enemy MUST blow CCs on you or they just melt.) If the enemy team has a competent Salf or Slither, be very loving afraid unless your teammates shut them down. Salf's ult blocks 100% of your regen while hurting you *a lot* and Slither's passive blocks 80% of your regen. Pred is theoretically a counter, but in practice once he gets you to about 1/3 HP he won't outleech your innate regen while you pound his ugly loving face into the ground unless you really let him outfarm you (in which case, for shame) or it's a bad gank where there's no friendlies to take advantage of the fact that pred isn't killing them/enemies are CCing you so Pred can kill you. S.T.C.A. fucked around with this message at Feb 7, 2012 around 19:09 |
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VJ is awesome but also a really good killstealer. I wish it was easier to feed your lanemate the kills because generally they benefit from items more than VJ does. Wish I had a headset and mic to chat with fellow goons while we bitch at whoever on our team missed the latest skillshot.
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While it is likely I haven't run into any good sunflowers, my standard RAAAAA blitz seems to generally hold them down. Does the aura thing really cause that much of a bother? No one ever seems to be able to land his...nuke thing though. Pred I can understand if he has been freefarming (which like you said, really shouldn't be happening) and has his skin. Does barbed armour push through magic immunity? Does magebanes manaburn counter as damage to reflect??
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 20:53 |
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Barbed armor returned damage is strictly magic damage. Magebane's magic armor will mitigate this damage to a large degree. I'm not positive of your final question.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 21:59 |
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If Salf ults you you lose the ability to regen, it deals a moderately strong dot and when combined with his innate aura it means that you start losing a very large amount of health to cast abilities without any good way to gain it back. It also doesn't help that he barfs out true damage constantly.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 21:59 |
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I was just stuck with a team that was getting its stuff wrecked by Armadon. After almost 30 minutes of putting up with "ARMADON DOES TOO MUCH DAMAGE HIS PASSIVES ARE TOO STRONG" I finally managed to convince my entire team to get a Null Talisman. (The enemy team also had Nomad and Rampage  ) From that point on we would drop Pyromancer and Monarch at the start of every fight and then we popped the Talismen and there was nothing they could do about it. Being stuck in the 1400's, that kind of game feels like a glorious victory to me! 
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 22:55 |
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Started playing verified only today. Disappointed to see that so far, if anything, it is even MORE full of horrendous whiners/team blamers. Played some new heroes. I think I might really enjoy Voodoo Jester, but his ult is going to take some getting used to.
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 23:53 |
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Unforuntately, it is the SRS BUSINESS bracket. Feel free to type /IC in chat to ignore all text from everyone
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| # ? Feb 7, 2012 23:55 |
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Just loaded up my first game of HoN. I have some sort of error? It says Loading Game and a little box is up that says Please Wait. This persisted through hero select and in game? Now I can't click on the upper 75% of my screen. Oh boy I'm doing so well for my first time. Edit: So I can't select a skill or buy any items and I can't relog since I'm at a cyber cafe. Alt+f4 doesn't work? The best part if nobody is even saying anything. In fact they're all yelling at each other. Dark Lady and Devourer are screaming at each other from literally the first five seconds about Bottle as a first item. They keep votekicking each other and saying the other is why we lost and I haven't left fountain but twice. I think I'm gonna like it here. Advice fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2012 around 02:05 |
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I was just reading the balance forums and I saw Brannock saying he only gets mystic vestments when he has over 1200HP. Why is this? Is that the point where it becomes more cost-effective than buying a bracer? (And if that's it, what if the other team is really magic-heavy?) e: Today I learned that Tabcom is amazing against Berseker. Elman fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2012 around 02:06 |
| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:03 |
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Hey guys, MoonMeander just got banned for backdooring while his team was losing the match! Way to go S2, hiring only the most professional of moderators! 
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:19 |
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JordanKai posted:Hey guys, MoonMeander just got banned for backdooring while his team was losing the match! quote:GM Explanation: Avoiding every single team fight by porting away with post haste to the other side of the map, continueing to push. While barracks were being pushed he still continued pushing, thus resulting in a loss.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:26 |
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He continued to push because it was 1v5 with 1 teammate DCed and the other teammates 30+ seconds away from spawning. 79056636 he's being unbanned anyway
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:29 |
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Maide posted:Maybe you should remove Post Haste if you don't want them to be used in a way that allows them to be used. Also remove TP scrolls and Nymphora.
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seizure later posted:Maybe you should remove Post Haste if you don't want them to be used in a way that allows them to be used. Also remove TP scrolls and Nymphora. I'm not defending the actions, I'm just giving more information. This GM suspension has been appealed sucessfully already.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:40 |
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Moon getting unbanned was never in doubt, s2 doesn't do anything to pros; and when they do it's not for any of the real reasons they could have
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:43 |
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At least the quote is legit. It's got the same degree of typos as in all of the leaked patch notes to date. Thinking about those, I'm now going to daydream about getting pubstomped on the midwars-only map and still enjoying it.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:43 |
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Elman posted:I was just reading the balance forums and I saw Brannock saying he only gets mystic vestments when he has over 1200HP. I didn't say I got it only after 1200 HP, I was just using that number as an example to show how efficient the item is. I think the breakpoint is somewhere like 1000 HP, but obviously it varies depending on what health item you're comparing it to. Mystic vest is always worth getting if the other team is magic heavy, but you'll always want some raw health for it to inflate. Having 600 HP and a mystic vest isn't going to do you much good.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 02:48 |
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If a lvl 11 pebbles combos you with 800 hp it probably won't matter if you have vestments or not. If you have 1k-1.2k hp then you are pretty much on the safe zone with vestments.
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Elman posted:I was just reading the balance forums and I saw Brannock saying he only gets mystic vestments when he has over 1200HP. I haven't done the math on a bracer in a while, but I know against pure magic damage, vestments is only better than helm of the black legion if you have more than ~1100hp. Of course, straight hp is more useful than ehp vs 1 type of damage, so it makes sense to stack hp to a certain point before buying armor.
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seizure later posted:Maybe you should remove Post Haste if you don't want them to be used in a way that allows them to be used. Also remove TP scrolls and Nymphora. Maide is good people. Don't hate on him, he is some web dude. He doesn't handle anything to do with the client far as I can tell other than ripping information it sends to the database. That said, the GM support in this game is notoriously shoddy and inconsistent. Some guy was being a genuine dickhead screaming over the microphone before I muted that. He had a really loving annoying nerd voice that grated the nerves. After that he spams chat so much that I actually got annoyed with him. He's got a blatantly rule breaking name "RAP3_4_U" so I reported that under inappropriate name. quote:A GM has ruled your report to be insufficient or of poor quality and you have received 1 infraction point for the Report-A-Player system; this can be caused by not giving the appropriate details or not providing us a valid timeframe in which offense occurred. If that name is appropriate I'd like to have my friend's name `gently caress`You` put back.
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YouTuber posted:Maide is good people. Don't hate on him, he is some web dude. He doesn't handle anything to do with the client far as I can tell other than ripping information it sends to the database. This. Basically, if you have a bone to pick with S2, the LAST person you should bitch at is Maide. He does nothing but 100% liquid good 
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 04:36 |
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Jesus christ. You know, I really wish Dota 2 was as good as HoN, because loving S2 man, they are the worst company. (Obligatory I am sure there's some awesome people working there. And Maide obviously, he's a friend!) I wish I had as much fun playing Dota 2 as I do while playing HoN.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 04:37 |
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Good game, awesome company, gigantic community - pick one (HoN / Dota / LoL)
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 04:43 |
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Good game, awesome company, gigantic community - pick one (HoN / Dota / LoL) Dota2 is all 3 so I don't get it. 
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 05:41 |
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Hey Veryslightlymad, what is your name ingame? School doesn't allow me to play too often, but I'd be down to tmm with you and increase the possibility of teamwork happeneing.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 05:52 |
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Kild posted:Dota2 is all 3 so I don't get it. A lot of people don't really care for Dota 2. I know personally, after the tons of hon changes like no 0 minute rune, it's really hard for me to play slow, boring Dota. Played a ~80 minute game. We were 4v5, we had an AFK. Of course, you can't kick an AFK or get their items; they just sit in the fountain being useless. Anyways, the other team had 5, killed Kongor 4-5 times, and still turtled, and eventually lost when we kept pushing into their base as 4. gently caress that game. I'm sure it'll be better when it's out of beta stages, but right now it's kind of meh.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 05:58 |
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Rent posted:A lot of people don't really care for Dota 2. I know personally, after the tons of hon changes like no 0 minute rune, it's really hard for me to play slow, boring Dota. Not quite sure how you can say it's slow then cite "0 minute runes" and a bad game you experienced.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 06:22 |
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Newsflash, some people don't like Dota 2. You do? Great! Go to the Dota 2 thread and talk about it.
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| # ? Feb 8, 2012 06:25 |
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S.T.C.A. posted:If you aren't already, after you get Steamboots, Hotbl, and Shaman's (if you need full-on shaman's instead of just mystic vestments that is) get Blademail. Stacking ~tank~ items on Ra seems like such a misguided 1400 MMR thing to do. I like getting phase boots, helm, vestments and portal key and abusing the extra mobility to farm quicker and have more presence in team fights.
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