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RedHotKick: Feb 4, 2011; SPIDORMEN?!

Pieces posted:

EDIT: confirmation from reddit:

Horseman Death: Lord Salforis
Horseman Conquest: Maliken

There goes any hope of the Horsemen forming a decent team.

Well actually that flew out of the window when Warbest was the first.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 08:18

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# ? May 18, 2013 20:30

SirSamVimes: Jul 21, 2008; JIMMY JIMS?!

Well if you like having a team of 5 melee carries, go ahead.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 09:08

Revelant: Jul 27, 2007; Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.

Don't forget Soul Reaper alt.

Also it still looks more like midas than maliken to me.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 10:08

RedHotKick: Feb 4, 2011; SPIDORMEN?!

The 'lore' stuff behind it mentions the Hellbourne's general becomes Conquest. So it's Mali.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 10:29

SirSamVimes: Jul 21, 2008; JIMMY JIMS?!

Does anyone know what time the patch is hitting?

# ? Feb 24, 2012 11:03

washow: Dec 1, 2007; Join Starfleet Dental

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So who's good with monkey king? Every time I fight against him it's always some super awesome duder YAHOOing around wiping out the entire team but whenever I play him he is all gimped.

What kind of items do you get from the starting item? How do you level the guy? Anything special I need to know to play the guy? Oh and I'm going mid with him

# ? Feb 24, 2012 11:16

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

Just follow the in-game guide.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 11:36

seizure later: Apr 18, 2007

Pieces posted:

EDIT: confirmation from reddit:

Horseman Death: Lord Salforis
Horseman Conquest: Maliken

Salforis already has a horse alt though, what the gently caress?

Also that wolf alt avatar really does look like Warwick like holy poo poo.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 12:04

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

Patch's out. They nerfed Tremble, Torturer, Midas and Drunken Master. Also there's a big Savage Mace nerf for FA, since it no longer works on split attacks. Slightly buffed Geo, Behemoth and Hag.

Plated Boots now give armor to heroes, which is nice. Nullstone has 150% mana regen instead of 200%, and Stormspirit recipe is 400g more expensive. They reworked SotM but I don't think they changed what it does to any hero.

No nerfs to RA, MK, Magmus or Valkyrie (Other than her sight range)

# ? Feb 24, 2012 13:11

RedHotKick: Feb 4, 2011; SPIDORMEN?!

Forget the buffs/nerfs, Shudder's renamed to Boris.

Damnit S2 stop renaming pets to be dumb references

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:10

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

Good morning.

quote:

Version 2.5.12 ------------ - With our roster hero roster preparing to hit the big 100, this week's free hero pool is a throwback to HoN's youth * We have expanded the free hero pool to include 24 old school heroes for this week only * Swiftblade * Sand Wraith * The Madman * Blood Hunter * Night Hound * Chronos * Dark Lady * Moon Queen * Puppet Master * Blacksmith * Hellbringer * Torturer * Wretched Hag * Pollywog Priest * Ophelia * Tempest * Pharoah * Magmus * Maliken * Hammerstorm * Pandamonium * Legionnaire * Keeper of the Forest * Pestilence - Added Night Hound Alt Avatar: Night Hunter - New taunt: Dropping G's Taunt - Added a new command /friendlychat or /fc for short * If a player turns this feature on their client will only accept incoming whispers, game invites, group invites and other similar messages if the sender is in their clan or on their buddy list - The alt avatar list can now be sorted by release date (suggested by community member iruul) - UI bug fixes: (Thanks to Elkano for his help with these) * Right click menu no longer occasionally appears behind other windows * Fixed bug causing notification icon tooltips to be stuck to the cursor * Matchmaking window player double click invites no longer occasionally target the wrong player * Added missing double tap announcer preview * Improved sub-account drop-down behavior * Fixed large stat numbers being cut off in post game stats screen * Fixed bug causing add friend button to disappear in-game - Matchmaking groups who have a large skill difference among their members will no longer be able to choose the "Fairer Match" option for their match fidelity * An appropriate message will be displayed to the group leader indicating that the value they had selected is not available for their group should they try to - Updated RAP interface - The following Heroes have been removed from the Tournament Rules game mode: * Artesia * Bezerker * Gravekeeper - Fixed white textures showing up when you use the "Low" Model setting for: * Behemoth * Hammerstorm * Hellbringer and Malphas * Kongor * Moon Queen * Night Hound * Pollywog Priest - The Night Vision of the following heroes have been changed to 800: * Bombardier (had 1200) * Bubbles (had 1200) * Deadwood (had 1200) * Keeper of the Forest (had 1200) * Torturer (had 900) * Tremble (had 1200) * Valkyrie (had 1200) - Visual Exploits have been fixed that involve the following heroes: * Deadwood * Devourer * Emerald Warden * Engineer * Fayde * Gladiator * Madman * Revenant * Sand Wraith * Silhouette - A new chatserver is needed this patch. You will automatically reconnect to the new one after patching - Fixed an issue where players could repeatedly invite other players to create a clan even if they were already in a clan or in /dnd mode - Players will no longer longer receive matchmaking group invites while in /dnd mode - Fixed an issue where right-clicking the Auto-Join channel button in a chat room was not removing the saved channels from the Auto-Join channel list - Fixed a display issue where a players MMR shown on the matchmaking interface would appear to be 1 point higher than it should have - Fixed a "Tooltip Sticking" bug == Items == Astrolabe - Now does not apply the Astrolabe Immunity to Stormspirit'ed targets Brutalizer - No longer works with Split Attacks Null Stone - Reduced mana regeneration from 200% to 150% Plated Greaves - On use, now also grants +2 Armor to nearby heroes Ring of the Teacher - Reduced damage from 6 to 5 Savage Mace - No longer works with Split Attacks Sol's Bulwark - No longer stacks incorrectly with or overrides Daemonic Breastplate Staff of the Master - Recipe old: Any two 1000g items + Glowstone + Recipe - Recipe new: Glowstone + Mighty Blade + Quickblade + Neophyte's Book. Auto Assemble Stormspirit - Cast range reduced from 600 to 450 - Increased cost from 600 to 1000 gold - Now cannot be healed while Stormspirit'ed == Heroes == Amun-Ra - Fixed Pyroclasmic Rebirth from playing in fog Arachna - Increased turnrate from 360 to 450 Behemoth - Fissure increased duration from 5/6/7/8 to 6.5/7/7.5/8 seconds - Shockwave tooltip update no longer affecting corpses. Blacksmith - Fixed Kuznya Avatar so that the icons in Flaming Hammer and Frenzy match the states - Smoothed Kuznya's attack animations Cthulhuphant - Hook 'em can now target Allied creeps only at level 2 and above Demented Shaman - Unbreakerable health restored reduced from 150/250/350/450 to 125/200/275/350 Drunken Master - Stagger's bonus Movement Speed and Attack Damage reduced from 20/40/60/80 to 15/30/45/60 - Drink's charges gained from 2/4/6/8 to 2/3/4/5 a second - Drink's charged gained from enemy death from 2/4/6/8 to 2/3/4/5 Fayde - Deep Shadows is now the correct cast type Flux - Fixed Discharge and Release from playing in fog - Release's slow is now transferrable Geomancer - Added Staff of the Master effect: * Adds a bonus 100/120/140 Magic Damage and 4 Second 50% Movement Speed Slow in a 600 radius to the explosion * For reference, the normal explosion is 300 radius - Fixed the Alt Avatar's model from playing Earth's Grasp animation/sound indefinitely if the target creep moves out of range & Geomancer is not aggro'ed/no other orders are carried out after casting Earth's Grasp - Quicksand won't draw on the minimap anymore - Quicksand is now a status debuff, meaning it can be dispelled and stolen/transferred Gladiator - Pitfall effects touched up Hellbringer - Starting Strength increased from 16 to 17 - Death Boil reduced manacost from 100/130/160/190 to 100/120/140/160 Keeper of the Forest - Fixed Root from playing through fog Legionnaire - Fixed his Alt Avatar's Whirling Blade so it plays the correct model when spinning Maliken - Sword Throw teleport is no longer prevented by Immobilized Midas - Fixed Santa Midas' icons so they aren't blank - Reduced starting agility from 16 to 12 - Reduced agility gain per level from 1.5 to 1.1 - Reduced starting armor from 3.24 to 1.18 (after agility nerf) - Fixed Lion's Pride from playing through fog - Lion's Pride reduced ranged from 900 to 800 - Cleaned up Transmute scripting a bit Monarch - Icon updated - Alt Avatar sounds fixed - Crippling Pollen duration reduced from 1.5/2/2.5/3 to 1/1.5/2/2.5 seconds - Crippling Pollen increased damage per second from 50 to 70 Myrmidon - Touched up previews Parasite - Infest can no longer target allied creeps until level 2 Pestilence - Alt Avatar Horseman sounds updated Pharaoh - Reverted creep grab mechanic to only work on other heroes Slither - Toxin Ward vision increased from 300 to 600 Succubus - Fixed icons Tempest - Elemental reduced magic armor from 17 to 15 Torturer - Reduced starting agility from 23 to 16 - Chain reaction damage reduced from 70/140/210/280 to 65/130/195/260 - Agonizing Bonds cast range reduced from 700 to 650 - Agonizing Bonds damage rescaled from 80/140/200/260 to 65/130/195/260 Tremble - Shudder renamed to Boris~! - Terrorform increased gold gain on mounds from 25 to 25/30/35/40 - Boris no longer gains Impalers and instead gains a passive movespeed slow of 10/15/20% - Increased gold gain from killing Boris from 75 to 75/100/125 - Boris's negative armor on Attack from -2/-4/-6 to -1/-2/-3 - Increased Boris's Attack Damage from 50/75/100 to 60/85/110 Tundra - Cold Shoulder is now Magical instead of Physical War beast - Fixed effects Wretched Hag - Increased turn rate from 450 to 500 - Lowered Attack Action Time from 560ms to 500ms * This is when the Attack Projectile launches

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:19

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

Legionnaire currently spins 100% of the time when using his Logger alt.

Just saying.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:26

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

Elman posted:

Legionnaire currently spins 100% of the time when using his Logger alt.

Just saying.

Confirmed.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:33

Healbot: Jul 7, 2006; very very very fucjable
very vywr very

Yeah, doesn't help when the dude playing him is utter dross.

I'm a bit disappointed that only Geo had SotM added to his ultimate.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:50

Mnoba: Jun 24, 2010

Elman posted:

Legionnaire currently spins 100% of the time when using his Logger alt.

Just saying.

The first bug I actually discovered by myself as I play lego alot, I was done with the 30 second small creep camp and waiting till :53 to stack and knew something was up.

Don't play MMR currently it is a race to him.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:51

Minrad: Sep 26, 2007; He wants a much bigger lamp than the little ones I have.

Healbot posted:

Yeah, doesn't help when the dude playing him is utter dross.

I'm a bit disappointed that only Geo had SotM added to his ultimate.

It's not even a good SOTM effect, either, if I'm reading it right and it doesn't stack with the center explosion.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:52

Lprsti99: Apr 7, 2011; I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
~Oscar Wilde

Elman posted:

Legionnaire currently spins 100% of the time when using his Logger alt.

Just saying.

Ahaha, that's great

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:55

hairypanis: Jan 26, 2011

What a weird patch.

DM nerfed to oblivion while the usual suspects (ra, kraken) left untouched. Whats the deal with the storm spirit nerf too?

# ? Feb 24, 2012 14:58

lamentable dustman: Apr 13, 2007; "I'm not laying underneath a grown man with my legs spread on worldwide TV. Some guys subscribe to that theory, but I'm a Republican, and we don't do that."

Pros have been bitching a lot about storm spirit lately (apparently they just now started abusing the fling teamates into the air to kite a carry mechanic that has been in the game since beta) but S2 likes that feature (in dota you can only tornado yourself) so they are trying to balance around it.

I think the range nerf is going to make the item useless

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:02

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

Mnoba posted:

Don't play MMR currently it is a race to him.

Just play BD/BP and you'll be fine.

I'm playing a nostats, all mid, Legionnaire only with Henshin right now.

edit:

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Elman fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2012 around 15:25

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:13

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

hairypanis posted:

What a weird patch.

DM nerfed to oblivion while the usual suspects (ra, kraken) left untouched. Whats the deal with the storm spirit nerf too?

You mean the usual suspects like Tempest, Parasite, Chtulhuphant, Monarch, Midas, Tremble, and Torturer?

Ra and Kraken are currently more of a design problem than a balance problem. Ra especially is a total abomination of design.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:16

bvoid: Mar 30, 2009

Brannock posted:

You mean the usual suspects like Tempest, Parasite, Chtulhuphant, Monarch, Midas, Tremble, and Torturer?

Ra and Kraken are currently more of a design problem than a balance problem. Ra especially is a total abomination of design.

IS Tempest really considered overpowered? Did they change something on him any time recently?

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:25

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

Farewell sweet prince of spins.

xanderK has announced that they are disabling the Legionnaire alt avatar until the fix goes through. No one can pick it.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:27

Chernabog: Apr 16, 2007; I may be wrong but I'm never in doubt.

Tempest was barely touched and the parasite nerf doesn�t really nerf parasite per se.
Also, since when can Chtulu hook allied creeps? I was under the impression it was not possible at all before.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:29

Dukka: Apr 28, 2007; lock teams or bust

Chernabog posted:

Tempest was barely touched and the parasite nerf doesn�t really nerf parasite per se.
Also, since when can Chtulu hook allied creeps? I was under the impression it was not possible at all before.

It wasn't, so it is just odd wording on their part while introducing a new feature for his E.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:32

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

Oops, I misread the Buckley change and thought it was the same as the Parasite nerf. Surprised they would add that functionality, but I guess now it's consistent with Parasite.

It's not a nerf to Parasite himself, but it affects his desirability to a team. It's a small change intended to target high-end drafting.

Tempest is a popular pick in the current trends of having a jungler. Not really overpowered at all, just popular.

Aside from that the patch hit many of the top picks. I'm pretty happy with it, even though we didn't get the Staff changes or the new game mode.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:34

Chernabog: Apr 16, 2007; I may be wrong but I'm never in doubt.

I assume it's something that was never intended but people figured out (The parasite deny.)

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:37

deetee: Apr 22, 2008

A Geo buff eh? Time to never stop playing him. gently caress, I love Geomancer.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:45

RickoniX: Dec 4, 2005; A human or elf?

NO NOT A BADGER YOU GOON

So it turns out S2 does not know how their own game works and you can continue to pick logger legionnaire through console

# ? Feb 24, 2012 16:13

Mnoba: Jun 24, 2010

RickoniX posted:

So it turns out S2 does not know how their own game works and you can continue to pick logger legionnaire through console

http://www.twitch.tv/moonmeander

Racist Moon middle against a bugged lego currently

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match over moon lost

Mnoba fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2012 around 16:38

# ? Feb 24, 2012 16:19

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

No Hellbringer unnerfs, fucken S2

# ? Feb 24, 2012 16:44

Pr0phecy: Apr 3, 2006

Mnoba posted:

http://www.twitch.tv/moonmeander

Racist Moon middle against a bugged lego currently

edit
match over moon lost

Hahahhaa he's playing GTA:SA because of that loss. Never ever seen moon play anything other than HoN. I think he's done.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 16:56

Healbot: Jul 7, 2006; very very very fucjable
very vywr very

He streamed San Andreas for quite a while during his ban.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:02

Terebus: Feb 17, 2007

Dre2Dee2 posted:

No Hellbringer unnerfs, fucken S2

Maybe you're trolling but,

Hellbringer
- Starting Strength increased from 16 to 17
- Death Boil reduced manacost from 100/130/160/190 to 100/120/140/160

Which is kind of dumb since life void is still a pretty useless skill after the nerf on the magic damage. Buffing his best skill isn't what he really needed.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:14

Dre2Dee2: Dec 6, 2006; Just a striding through Kamen Rider...

Terebus posted:

Maybe you're trolling but,

Hellbringer
- Starting Strength increased from 16 to 17
- Death Boil reduced manacost from 100/130/160/190 to 100/120/140/160

Which is kind of dumb since life void is still a pretty useless skill after the nerf on the magic damage. Buffing his best skill isn't what he really needed.

Oh, I missed that. I feel a little better, but not much

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:14

Elman: Oct 26, 2009; como una máquina

Why would they buff his starting Strength and nothing else? I don't see how having 10 extra hp is going to make a difference in competitive play, let alone in the matches that people actually play.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:19

cumtini... on ice: Apr 17, 2005

The Drunken Master nerfs seem a little excessive. He's required to get more levels of drink early now if he wants to get the drunk benefits earlier, delaying the period he can start bullying people with his crazy stagger damage, which is now weaker. The fact that new max drink < old level 3 drink seems pretty bad.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:32

MeramJert: Jul 2, 2005; I'M TOO GOOD TO EAT HUMAN HAIR

Elman posted:

Why would they buff his starting Strength and nothing else? I don't see how having 10 extra hp is going to make a difference in competitive play, let alone in the matches that people actually play.

Hah, I remember having this exact same argument with Brannock back when they increased Torturer's starting str by 1 (he's a Torturer fan)

# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:36

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; TOUCHDOOOOWWWNNNN

http://www.gamereplays.org/heroesof...reams/fnatictv/

Fnatic vs PORT, in the Raidcall cup finals.

Tempest banned.

We're chatting about it in IRC if you want to come join us. Should be a good match.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:17

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# ? May 18, 2013 20:30

Mnoba: Jun 24, 2010

Just used geo with sotm, it makes the targeting circle for the ult bigger which I don't like, but you can tell it's more damage I like it a lot.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:35

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