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Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I gave up this game for a month or so after a really lovely several games in a row and dealing with the idiot community. On a whim I decided to see what the heroes look like, and this new one seems just ridiculous. Maybe not overpowered, but with a bunch of tools to her that I think I'd get some fun out of.

Unfortunately, that means I'd gonna have to start playing the game again. I can't think of a game I have such a love/hate relationship with as HoN.

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Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Minrad posted:

You better stay on break unless you have 350 gold coins!

Yeah, I'm not gonna buy an early release character. I'll get her for free in like, a month.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I've decided that the best way to get good at something is to pick something you're awful at and stick with it for a while.

So when I get back to where I have a connection that can play this game, here's looking forward to several dozen Geomancer matches.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Hey, this may be a dumb question from a dumb guy, but that new character, Artesia, what is the viability of running her in the jungle--after you hit level 2?

If I'm looking at her abilities right, her one sends out attacks whenever she's casting a spell, and another one channels and restores HP. So can she just.... dance around in enemy camps and take them out that way?

(DISCLAIMER: I haven't actually seen the hero, nor can I access her yet. Also, I'm terrible at HoN.)

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Dre2Dee2 posted:

The healing spell shoots mini-missiles, however mini-missiles only fire upon enemy heroes.

She's actually one of the worst farmers in the game

WELP.

Yeah, that'd be one of those factors that'd limit things.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


malmal posted:

I had a tremble game a while ago where i killed a thunderbringer like 5 times with just shudder, he rage quit

"My ultimate can't hit that thing! It's broken as hell!"

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


NEWB QUESTION TIME:

Is there a way to quick use items without having to click on them? Because it's really something that I want to get in the habit of--using my items more and faster.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


And will Shift+Alt+whatever queue it up like shift+command normally does?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I swear I have checked and seen nothing. Maybe I have gone daft.

Anyhow, thanks for the help. Hopefully this will help me team fight a little faster.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I might try something like that, but honestly, I'm still very much picking up the basics of this game. Every time I want to learn it, I play for a week or so then rage quit for a while. I'm slowly getting better, I guess, but man the community for this game is something else.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Well, the first time I took a long absence it was because of trolls/whiners, but the last time it was because of leavers and people who REFUSE TO REMAKE.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Aeble posted:

The first step on the road to hon-zen is to become aware.


Anyhow, it's a shame the new pharao alt is so expensive, it looks really nice. But yeah, despite me practically only using my silver coins on the limited edition skins, I don't have enough. Oh well!

Got a good seven matches in this morning. Played horrible for some of them, but I managed OK in a few others. Getting enough confidence where I might branch out of my 3-4 character rotation of guys I don't totally poo poo the bed with.

Is it just me, or is the Chipper really, really bad? I keep thinking "Combos! An ultimate that vectors!" and trying him out, and then I have matches where I'll go 0/7/0.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


But the fourth horseman is Strife, not Pestilence. Pestilence was a plague cast down by Moses on the Egyptians.



Or they could go the Metallica/Megadeth route and make the last one "Time"... so... Cronos?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Death seems like it's one of SoulStealer, SoulReaper, Revenant or Gravedigger.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


SHITPOST.BAT posted:

It was saying that a worker, with a day's wages, could either buy enough wholesome food for one person, or enough lovely food for three

So... War, Strife, Capitalism, and Death?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I've offered to get kicked from games where I'm feeding so badly, but only because I'm the worst HoN player ever.

After 46 games with all options enabled, I finally had something other than all-pick pop up, and this time it was Single Draft. It was.... an interesting experience. I ended up picking Revenant and having the GODLIKE score of 2-13-16. I think I'd very much like the hero if, you know, I was good enough at any aspect of the game to justify it---Tell me it gets better, and I'm not simply too old to "get" HoN. I've played almost fifty games now and I'm still somewhere between "a wash" and "a liability" to my team.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Dre2Dee2 posted:

Good and bad news: 50 games is not enough games to learn HoN

And hey, patch!

Oh....boy. Is it just that all the people at the 1450 level are alt-accounts? Because nearly everyone I face is better than me AND has like 3 games listed as their total.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Dre2Dee2 posted:

Well that certainly wouldn't help. Are you a verified account? That helps cut down smurfs by a lot. Also play Matchmaking, public games is a total free for all.

Also try to play with friends or even people from this thread - playing by yourself compared to even just one other person makes a huge difference

Yeah. I actually have a legacy account. I dunno how many games I had when I first played (before Matchmaking was even a thing), but I had to relearn everything, and I have completely different main heroes, now. I don't think I've been playing verified only matches. I didn't know if that cut down on Smurfs or if it cut down on Free-to-play guys. I don't want to face the first one, but I figure the second one would be---if nothing else, a confidence boost.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

You should never play unverified games if you can possibly help it, it's nothing but smurfs and new players who haven't fallen to their proper ratings yet. Neither of those are good for learning the game, or enjoying it.

Worth knowing. Do you think my performance would go -up- or down? Or is it impossible to say, really. I can't really stress how bad I am.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Heh. I'd like to see that, actually.

My favorite thing in Public play is "Middle is always solo".

Got a squishy carry going 1v1 against Torturer? You're stealing his XP, even if your presence gives him way the gently caress more gold.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


DarkFact posted:

Looks like a lot of people find him fun to play and he's a giant snowballer if you lane him mid (though he kind of sucks at mid, but he needs levels bad). General consensus from a few streams and a friend in the 1600s seems to be 'farm heroes, get lifesteal and damage and roll their team'.

Apparently he's really fun to play, I haven't picked him yet myself though. It's always funny to spam the third skill (You're NEXT) and romp around killing people. He works best with a hard support like Empath or Jeraziah to fuel his trucking skills. I've been the support in that situation and the laughter that ensues with hat-tricks or above is priceless.

Oh, man. I play Empath a bunch, and I just realized that Berzerker would be one of the most fun people to partner up with. You cannot flee my giant man. I have built a wall, good sir.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Started playing verified only today. Disappointed to see that so far, if anything, it is even MORE full of horrendous whiners/team blamers.

Played some new heroes. I think I might really enjoy Voodoo Jester, but his ult is going to take some getting used to.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


A Retardet Horse posted:

Hey Veryslightlymad, what is your name ingame? School doesn't allow me to play too often, but I'd be down to tmm with you and increase the possibility of teamwork happeneing.

AgentVSM.

Please disregard my .26:1 K:D ratio.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


OK, what do you do in a lane if you're pretty much guaranteed to die if you're hit by anything? Like, a lane with two stuns, or just one good stun and one good damager.


ALSO:

How do you not take constant harass if you're melee against a ranged hero? If you have a ranged buddy, should he be counter harassing? Is that an actual thing? I've had a few games where I can't do poo poo because if I get too close to the creeps, I eat a bunch of auto attacks.
~~~

Been having moderate (Re: ANY) success lately with Revenant. Possible second favorite hero? Perhaps. Very into the buffs that go to your whole team once you get your passive ult. Nice being a sort of Support that also has quite a lot of damage to spew out, too.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Is there a reason other than "Tradition" that these style of games still have the RTS style control? I mean, sure, it was initially an RTS mod---but I sort of think the game would be a lot more fun if it had a sense of control that was more akin to other top-down games, like a Diablo, or a Nox, or even a Bastion.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


OK, A Retardet Horse, I added you to my friends, but I was both in the middle of a game and a fight when you messaged me, so I didn't really have time to respond.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


Dre2Dee2 posted:

Even down to speaking english with a horrid accent

More true than it has any right to be. I know ethnocentrism is bad, but Heroes of fuckin' Newerth, man. Just makes me want to bomb Europe.


And the US, and basically everywhere. This game looks so rewarding once it's learned, but I'm starting to question whether or not it's worth it. Non-1400 players, does it ever get worth it?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


It's also a great team for making the new guy rage.

"N00b Deadwood."
"Look at this newb killing my trees. Welp. We lose. GGWP"
(Kinesis Disconnected)

Wow, the last time I raged at this game (recently!) I stayed away from looking at anything, and there've been two heroes showcased during that time. I guess I'm getting ready to try again. I feel like someone who tried acid once, had a really, really bad trip, and decided "You know what I think I'll take up again? Acid".

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


I haven't played all that much or been around all that long, but she seems like the game's "Ryu"---the character to which other characters are compared to for game balance, as opposed to a character that's broken one way or another.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


EightBit posted:

I don't think you "get" the HoN/DotA-like community.

HoN is the only community I've ever been involved with where the people/opponents are somehow, someway, even more whiny entitled bitches when they lose than folks playing online Poker.

That's right.

People who lose at Heroes of Newerth actually get angrier and more irrational than people who are actually losing money in real-time.

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Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I could probably take a girl


drat it. Why'd I have to watch that spotlight for Bramble? That's like.... this is like the character I've been waiting for.

Actually, every new hero feels that way, and then I play HoN again and bang my head into my desk until I wake up a few months later.

Still, as someone who favors Empath, largely because her loving Wall is the only ability in the game I can seriously use correctly, that ultimate has me licking my chops.

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