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kaworu
Jul 23, 2004
PLEASE TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR CAT AND WHAT A GOOD VALENTINE IT IS


Jerusalem posted:

If I remember right, isn't it down to Gandalf warning that Beorn doesn't like too many strangers about, so Gandalf starts telling Beorn the story of their adventure and keeps ramping up the numbers so Beorn will go,"Hang on but there's only four of yo.... oh here comes another one?" until finally they're ALL there?

Spoiler-tagged just to be on the safe side, if it is included in the movie I think it would be hilarious just for McKellan trying to act absent-minded.

I always thought the funniest thing about this was that Gandalf used the exact same strategy on Bilbo at the beginning of the book, who of course would have felt the same as Beorn if he saw 13 freaking dwarves showing up at his doorstep all at once.

Also with regard to people talking about how much they loved Theoden's big speech at the battle of Pelennor Fields in Return of the King - in the book, it was actually Eomer who gets the line "Ride to ruin and the world's ending!" and not Theoden. The line is actually partially in response to the fact that Theoden had just died at that point in the story.

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Nurse Fanny
Aug 14, 2007

Belive it!


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Err, other than Lee Pace playing Thranduil and Stephen Fry playing the Master of Laketown?

A Stephen Fry interview here:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/...the-hobbit.html

Cool thanks! Thought somebody was pulling my leg.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


First look at a new set



Could be Laketown, but could even be Bree. The sides of the buildings are obviously not finished, so it's hard to tell.

"Bree?" you ask? Yes Bree could well be in the film, as it's where Gandalf first meets Thorin in the pub, and the Quest of Erebor is born

Mr. Gibbycrumbles fucked around with this message at Jan 22, 2012 around 16:16

Octy
Apr 1, 2010



I had a chat with my uncle the other day who had come over from New Zealand after having spent a bit of time on the film as an extra. My only prior knowledge of such business comes from Ricky Gervais, and from the way my uncle described it, it sounds like a gruelling exercise, mostly in tedium and discomfort. I'm talking about having to wear four layers of winter clothing in 25 degree heat; spending all day around a bonfire, posing for scenes and inhaling smoke; getting up at 5am and home at 11.30pm; having to listen to a poncy Belgian director make requests in a poncy Belgian accent.

On the plus side my uncle did get something like a thousand dollars for three or four days work. He also got to see first-hand the way Peter Jackson works and Orlando Bloom 'acts'. And whether or not he'll be in the final cut or indeed, even identifiable, remains to be seen. I understand there was a fellow extra who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage so it'll be interesting if they include him.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009


Octy posted:

I had a chat with my uncle the other day who had come over from New Zealand after having spent a bit of time on the film as an extra. My only prior knowledge of such business comes from Ricky Gervais, and from the way my uncle described it, it sounds like a gruelling exercise, mostly in tedium and discomfort. I'm talking about having to wear four layers of winter clothing in 25 degree heat; spending all day around a bonfire, posing for scenes and inhaling smoke; getting up at 5am and home at 11.30pm; having to listen to a poncy Belgian director make requests in a poncy Belgian accent.

On the plus side my uncle did get something like a thousand dollars for three or four days work. He also got to see first-hand the way Peter Jackson works and Orlando Bloom 'acts'. And whether or not he'll be in the final cut or indeed, even identifiable, remains to be seen. I understand there was a fellow extra who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage so it'll be interesting if they include him.

Peter Jackson or Andy Serkis are Belgian now?

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


kanonvandekempen posted:

Peter Jackson or Andy Serkis are Belgian now?

I'm sure there's all sorts of assistant "directors" responsible for herding extras around and whatnot whilst Jackson (or Serkis) concentrates on the main actors.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Ok, latest casting call is interesting:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52919

They're specifically looking for men with large biceps, which maybe suggests a possibility that when Beorn turns up at the BoFA, he brings with him a host of Beornings. I know that in the books, the rise of the Beornings didn't happen until after the BoFA, but it might be a change that Jackson feels is cinematic enough to make.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2012 around 12:51

Octy
Apr 1, 2010



kanonvandekempen posted:

Peter Jackson or Andy Serkis are Belgian now?

Gee, you try to tell people something vaguely interesting in view of the absence of any discussion and they come up with this? Bruno Du Bois is the second second assistant director.

Octy fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2012 around 12:58

Umph
Apr 25, 2008



Ide love to see this as a looping gif. Just the dwarves throwing stuff around with the fat one bopping up and down and dancing.

http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=G0...qc&p=n#/122;124

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Umph posted:

Ide love to see this as a looping gif. Just the dwarves throwing stuff around with the fat one bopping up and down and dancing.

http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=G0...qc&p=n#/122;124

I made an arsebunch of these...

plate throwing is the first gif here:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...4#post399640514

dwarf intros:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...5#post399666024

more dwarves:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...6#post399666890

more dwarves:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...6#post399667634

silliness:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...6#post399670482



Mr. Gibbycrumbles fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2012 around 18:41

Estel
May 4, 2010


This is the best i could do:

Nurse Fanny
Aug 14, 2007

Belive it!


Octy posted:

I had a chat with my uncle the other day who had come over from New Zealand after having spent a bit of time on the film as an extra. My only prior knowledge of such business comes from Ricky Gervais, and from the way my uncle described it, it sounds like a gruelling exercise, mostly in tedium and discomfort. I'm talking about having to wear four layers of winter clothing in 25 degree heat; spending all day around a bonfire, posing for scenes and inhaling smoke; getting up at 5am and home at 11.30pm; having to listen to a poncy Belgian director make requests in a poncy Belgian accent.

On the plus side my uncle did get something like a thousand dollars for three or four days work. He also got to see first-hand the way Peter Jackson works and Orlando Bloom 'acts'. And whether or not he'll be in the final cut or indeed, even identifiable, remains to be seen. I understand there was a fellow extra who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage so it'll be interesting if they include him.

This is important: how did they pronounce Beorn?

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

It's my new shirt


Vigilance posted:

Basically if a line or lines from the LOTR movies actually sounded good, they were almost certainly written by Tolkien. And the horrendously stupid lines like the Gimli nervous system line, yeah Tolkien is probably rolling around in his grave over those.

I laughed hysterically at that line when I first saw the movie, and enjoyed a lot of the other stuff Jackson added in.

I also read LOTR, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and Lost Tales once a year and have read lots of the History of Middle Earth.

I am the worst LOTR fan

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy

Octy posted:

I had a chat with my uncle the other day who had come over from New Zealand after having spent a bit of time on the film as an extra. My only prior knowledge of such business comes from Ricky Gervais, and from the way my uncle described it, it sounds like a gruelling exercise, mostly in tedium and discomfort. I'm talking about having to wear four layers of winter clothing in 25 degree heat; spending all day around a bonfire, posing for scenes and inhaling smoke; getting up at 5am and home at 11.30pm; having to listen to a poncy Belgian director make requests in a poncy Belgian accent.
I worked in film and television production for years when I first moved to Los Angeles.

It was extremely difficult to admit (but now extremely easy to admit) just how much I hated it, considering the fact that I moved here to follow a dream of being a producer/working in production.

You have to be made for it. Now I think it is just as important to follow a dream and realize you hate it as it is to follow a dream and have it work out. I'll never regret a decision to choose not to pursue it further.

You have to be okay with long and unpredictable hours, standing around a LOT, not having a "homebase" or office or computer, filing you taxes as an independent contractor, basically having everything not be on any kind of a rhythm. In addition, if you aren't an actor, director, producer, writer or art department, there is very little creativity you can contribute. Crew is more like movers or construction. Union guys. Tool belts. Walkie talkies. That sort of thing.

I completely understand people who find that exciting but I found it excruciating and actually prefer an office, a daily regiment, the ability to work out every day and 72 degree air conditioning.

It took a long time for me to realize this about myself. If you are an extra, be prepared to do absolutely nothing for like 12 hours. If you are crew, be prepared to spend hours breaking everything down after the director and talent go home at 1:00am. I salute these people. Total nightmare for me though.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010



^^

My uncle is retired now and spends most of his time working on the property he lives near a lot of the filming locations. But he did come from a fairly cushy office job and apparently couldn't take being an extra for more than a few days. I suppose that's it for his film career.

Nurse Fanny posted:

This is important: how did they pronounce Beorn?

Alas, he did not mention this. His scenes were all in Dale, I think, as a 'Townsperson'.

Sorry, I wish I could remember a bit more of what he said.

Kemchimikemkem
Dec 22, 2011

It's a win win, better grin a big grin
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still- dunno


Octy posted:

Gee, you try to tell people something vaguely interesting in view of the absence of any discussion and they come up with this? Bruno Du Bois is the second second assistant director.
Hey, don't mistake some people for all people. Most would be capable of figuring out you were talking about an assistant director.

Peter Jackson is probably better to work with. He seems really down to earth and generally cool from the production videos. Granted I don't know much about the guy, there could be stories out there of him being hell to work under, but he doesn't give that impression.

Umph
Apr 25, 2008



Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:





God bless you sir. Should be in the OP!

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Kies mij!

I really like that gif, there is just so much going on at once.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

*grunt*


Davincie posted:

I really like that gif, there is just so much going on at once.

Just imagine how great the whole scene will be

I wonder if they'll be singing too...

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Davincie posted:

I really like that gif, there is just so much going on at once.

The amount of takes they must have done to get everything choreographed blows my mind.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

Space Batman
is sick of your shit.


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

The amount of takes they must have done to get everything choreographed blows my mind.

and probably a lot of CG Plates.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010



Cross post from the Duplo thread:



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Mowglis Haircut
Mar 26, 2010


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:




I just realised that the dwarf behind Bombur is lifting a plate up so Bombur can lick it clean. Bombur being a fatty fat fat fat is part of the cleaning up.

Erwin
Feb 17, 2006



Mowglis Haircut posted:

I just realised that the dwarf behind Bombur is lifting a plate up so Bombur can lick it clean. Bombur being a fatty fat fat fat is part of the cleaning up.

He's wiping it with his hand.

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted

Erwin posted:

He's wiping it with his hand.

More accurately I think he's wiping off leftover food onto his own plate

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

Divine Conduit
of God's Message


Looks like they're whistling and/or bobbing to a tune. I think we'll find out what Bilbo Baggins hates in that scene

Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

I just finished a re-read, and I had the most terrifying thought during Fire and Water. What do you think the chances are that Legolas will be the one who puts the arrow through Smaug's chest and kills him? I can just see Jackson making Legolas one of the elf spies in Lake Town and saving the day.

At this point, given his track record of insane changes in the LoTR trilogy (would it really have killed him to keep Glorfindel at the ford?), I'm pretty much going to assume that poo poo like this is going to happen all over the place. Doesn't mean the movie won't still be amazing, of course.

Also, how do you think they will handle the effects for Bilbo's invisibility? In LoTR, it was terrifying to put the ring on and go invisible, which does make sense considering Sauron had regained much of his power and was actively focusing on the ring. But in The Hobbit, Bilbo has it on for days at a time and it really is just a vanishing trick. Given that the audience will need to see where Bilbo is and what he is doing while invisible (think the spider fight in Mirkwood), what do you think they will go with?

Rawk Hawk fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2012 around 16:29

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Rawk Hawk posted:

would it really have killed him to keep Glorfindel at the ford?

How different would the scene have been if he had been included?

Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

Nihonniboku posted:

How different would the scene have been if he had been included?

Read that chapter in the actual book and you'll be able to tell me. The biggest negative in my mind is that it takes away Frodo's big moment of actually standing up to the Nine, and replaces it with him squeaking and passing out. Though I suppose I'm just bitter because I don't really think Arwen belonged in the movies at all. Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread into a nitpick-fest about the changes in the LoTR movies. I was more hoping to discuss the big change that I mentioned as a possibility.

Rawk Hawk fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2012 around 18:08

Star Platinum
May 5, 2010


Rawk Hawk posted:

I just finished a re-read, and I had the most terrifying thought during Fire and Water. What do you think the chances are that Legolas will be the one who puts the arrow through Smaug's chest and kills him? I can just see Jackson making Legolas one of the elf spies in Lake Town and saving the day.

At this point, given his track record of insane changes in the LoTR trilogy (would it really have killed him to keep Glorfindel at the ford?), I'm pretty much going to assume that poo poo like this is going to happen all over the place. Doesn't mean the movie won't still be amazing, of course.

Replacing Glorfindel with Arwen wasn't an insane change at all, it was a good way to introduce Arwen to the story and actually give her something to do. It was inevitable they would give her a larger role to appeal to a wider audience, and I think they handled it perfectly (in FotR, anyway).

As for Legolas, I don't think you have anything to worry about. He will probably pull some silly stunt and get an embarassing one-liner, but Jackson isn't dumb enough to drastically alter the story.

Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

I guess I would just ask that you read the chapter as written and ask yourself why it needed to be changed. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie, and I probably should have picked a better example if I was going to use the word "insane." Just pretend I said "elves at Helm's Deep," ok?

Star Platinum posted:

...but Jackson isn't dumb enough to drastically alter the story.

With all due respect, he was all set to have a one-on-one sword fight between Aragorn and Sauron at the end of RotK. Not to mention the ghost army winning the battle of Pelennor, and Frodo sending Sam home (what?).

Rawk Hawk fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2012 around 18:11

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Rawk Hawk posted:




With all due respect, he was all set to have a one-on-one sword fight between Aragorn and Sauron at the end of RotK. Not to mention the ghost army winning the battle of Pelennor, and Frodo sending Sam home (what?).

Those things didn't happen though.

Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

the Bunt posted:

Those things didn't happen though.

The last two certainly did. The first one was a last minute decision to cut, they replaced Sauron with the troll.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Rawk Hawk posted:

With all due respect, he was all set to have a one-on-one sword fight between Aragorn and Sauron at the end of RotK. Not to mention the ghost army winning the battle of Pelennor, and Frodo sending Sam home (what?).

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Rawk Hawk posted:

The last two certainly did. The first one was a last minute decision to cut, they replaced Sauron with the troll.

Oop, Frodo sent Sam home? Forgive me, I haven't seen ROTK in a really long time I could have sworn Sam was there till the end.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/01/...l-steel-hobbit/

quote:

Speaking of small and little, I’d be remiss not to bring up The Hobbit. You’re playing a new character named Tauriel, who’s a Mirkwood elf, and that would lead me to believe that she is a warrior of some kind. Did you have to learn archery and swordplay?

Yes, she is a warrior. She’s actually the head of the Elven guard. She’s the big shot in the army. So she knows how to wield any weapon, but the primary weapons that she uses are a bow and arrow and two daggers. And she’s lethal and deadly. You definitely wouldn’t want to be caught in a dark alley next to Tauriel.

So then Tauriel must be involved with the dwarves being captured…

I think basically what you’re asking is if she’s in the film very much. She’s not in the first film very much. She comes into the first film near the end, and has a very small part to play. Her role in the second film is much more involved. Although, I have to say, when I first read the scripts and took the job, she had a lot less going on in the second film. I think the role is becoming a bit more demanding than I had expected it to be. There’s a lot more for me to do now, which is a lot of fun, but it’s a little more pressure.

Does she play a large part in the Battle of Five Armies?

Oh, I don’t know. We haven’t shot that yet. I still have to go back for five more months of filming.

How many months have you been there already?

On and off for the past six months. It’s a two-year shoot in total for both films, and my contract had me blocked off for about a year. I come in and out of New Zealand throughout that year.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2012 around 19:19

Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

the Bunt posted:

Oop, Frodo sent Sam home? Forgive me, I haven't seen ROTK in a really long time I could have sworn Sam was there till the end.

He comes back. But I want to stop this derail: I was only pointing those examples out to show that there is precedent for the change I mentioned.

Barehanded Brother
Feb 12, 2007

When you have a Hammer, everything looks like a nail.


Rawk Hawk posted:

I just finished a re-read, and I had the most terrifying thought during Fire and Water. What do you think the chances are that Legolas will be the one who puts the arrow through Smaug's chest and kills him? I can just see Jackson making Legolas one of the elf spies in Lake Town and saving the day.

I'm fairly certain you're trolling but Bard the Bowman is a pretty Big loving Deal in the whole post-Hobbit mythology, and he's being played by an increasingly well-known actor. I think it's safe to say that Jackson's going to keep that the same. That change would be far more drastic than the relatively changes you've mentioned in LOTR.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009




This could be incredibly awesome or bad. Ugh. At least she looks like an elf.

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Rawk Hawk
Sep 22, 2003

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

Barehanded Brother posted:

I'm fairly certain you're trolling but Bard the Bowman is a pretty Big loving Deal in the whole post-Hobbit mythology, and he's being played by an increasingly well-known actor. I think it's safe to say that Jackson's going to keep that the same. That change would be far more drastic than the relatively changes you've mentioned in LOTR.

Not trolling, and I didn't mean to imply that Bard would be cut from the movie entirely. Changing who specifically lands the killing blow wouldn't change the story as much as the changes that were made, for example, to Aragorn's dialogue that turned him into a reluctant hero. Faramir is a completely different character in the movies than the books. I see this mild little "what if" as a much smaller change than having Faramir lust for the ring to prove himself to his father and bring Frodo halfway to Minas Tirith. You have to remember that Bard has, like, six lines in the entire book. He can be just as much The Hero of the Battle by leading the resistance.

I can't believe I'm arguing that big changes were made between the three Lord of the Rings books and the movies. Try reading them again: they are very very different. I am not saying that this is a bad thing, I am just saying that it happened. Yes, of course I know that it is unlikely that this change will happen. But it is certainly within the realm of possibility.

Rawk Hawk fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2012 around 20:22

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