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It is a weird day at work to walk in and hear high-level executives singing a Dwarven song while getting coffee.
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Here's what others are saying about the trailer... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/the-hobbit-unexpected-journey-trailer-reactions-review-275882p 94 images from the trailer... http://www.cinemablend.com/new/94-Images-From-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-Trailer-28465.html 10 things we learned... http://www.hitfix.com/galleries/10-things-we-learned-from-the-hobbit-trailer
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Dec 21, 2011 19:55
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One of the biggest problems with Fellowship that I was anticipating was catching the audience up on what was going on. Phillipa Boyens hit a grand slam with that opening epic at the beginning of Fellowship. My mom knew what was going on and that, believe me, is very impressive. I have full faith that the beginning of the Hobbit will do likewise.
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Dec 21, 2011 22:18
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spixxor posted:Can you imagine trying to keep 13 different character straight onscreen if they were all little Gimli clones? Especially for non-nerds who don't know them all by name? They had to do something to distinguish them from one another. I got the feeling that young dwarves look normal and get more dwarvish as they age? Maybe? I dunno. Don't dwarves live like a couple hundred years if I remember my Rolemaster correctly?
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Dec 22, 2011 00:58
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If that shot means that Gandalf and Galadriel are in a relationship then Frodo and Sam have been rear end banging in every truck stop bathroom from Bree to the Black Gate.
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Dec 22, 2011 02:07
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Rencall posted:It's expected they'd have some history together. Gandalf is like a bazillion years old, and Galadriel is close behind him. Maybe a thousand years ago Gandalf wasn't sporting a ZZ top beard and he had the hots for her before he started looking like homeless santa clause. No Gandalf has always looked like that. He was put in the body of an old man to keep him humble. Plus I'm siding with no way does he stoop to that level. Maiar boning Elves is akin to a scientist boning a chimpanzee in my book. Unless of course your book regarding Elves is written by Raymond E. Feist, then it goes without saying that Maiar sexually enslave Elves and destroy them on a moments whim. edit: and we're through the looking glass.
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Dec 22, 2011 02:47
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keep punching joe posted:Do Wizards eat and therefore do they also poop? If you take wizard poop and dry it out and put it in a box you could use it to fertilize the whole Shire if you use it sparingly.
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Dec 22, 2011 02:53
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the Bunt posted:I didn't even know LOTR existed until ads for the Fellowship movie started coming out. I was so stoked to see that there was some gigantic epic that was directly related to The Hobbit! I've said this in the past but it must be said again. There is a certain moment when trying to force your friends or family to read Lord of the Rings that you must warn them about. It should be phrased as "There comes a time early on when the Hobbits encounter Tom Bombadil followed by an excruciatingly long period mucking about in the Barrow Downs that you must get through. For my sake, please crack on till you reach Bree." I, for one, am wholly glad they eradicated that section in the movies. Nerds be damned, that section is a story killer.
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Dec 23, 2011 08:30
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I don't know if anybody played Lord of the Rings Online like my huge nerd self but I loved their depiction of Tom Bombadil. In that I loved how this godlike figure was a drunken Kentucky hillbilly.
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Dec 24, 2011 09:50
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I like to watch the Balrog scene while imagining what the Balrog was thinking. Like- I have come back to the realm of men to destroy poo poo. I hear a commotion in the great hall. I sense there is some fun poo poo to destroy. Much more fun than these pitiful goblins. I'm gonna go there now! Destroy! Ha! these men can't run from me, I am Balrog! What is this old man thinking turning around, I am Balrog! What is this shall not pass nonsense I will destroy y- Flame of Anor? No loving way. He's lying. Time to chop this lying maggot in half. WTF?? My sword is useless against this thing! Surely he is not Maiar?! Surely. I can't chop him! (Blows out frustrated nose flames). I am going to crush this thing once and for oh no! I am falling! I shall not fall alone! You little loving whatever you are, you're going to! Got you! Ha ha! You see what happens when you mess with Mighty Balrog! You see wh- OW!! What the hell was th- gently caress OW!! He's got some kind of demon needl- OW!! Holy gently caress that hurts! You motherf..take that! Get off my horn you little fu- OW! What the hell is this thing? AAAAAHHH MY loving NECK! You get the idea. He was only back for a short while and randomly encounters another Maiar who kills him dead. Sucks for the Balrog.
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Dec 30, 2011 00:17
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I consider myself to be pretty obsessed with Tolkien as is everybody taking time out of their lives to post in this thread. I would actively dislike a Silmarillion film as I actively disliked reading it. No thanks. I like hearing what happened second hand but that was an exasperating read.
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Dec 31, 2011 06:56
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I like the idea that the Hobbits can live for about as long as they want. I like this idea because it pleases me to think that Bilbo stuck around long enough to see Sam, Legolas and Gimli again.
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Dec 31, 2011 21:33
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But Hobbits are mortals. I read that as the Hobbits and Gimli are going to die but get to choose when they want to go in the Undying Lands. The elves live forever.
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Dec 31, 2011 21:46
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Nuggan posted:Right, I'm saying Hobbits don't get to choose when to die unless they are in the undying lands. I'm sorry if I was confused about your original statement, but it seemed to me that you were thinking all hobbits got to choose when they die, not just the ones who sailed away. No I'm just saying that Bilbo and Frodo, being in the undying lands aren't going to die right away. Bilbo without the ring was on death's doorstep. He goes to Valinor and keeps living. At some point Legolas builds a ship and takes Gimli and Sam to Valinor. When they get there, I assume Bilbo and Frodo are still alive and welcome them when they arrive. I refuse to believe otherwise because I like the idea too much. (Edit: even though Tolkien makes it intentionally vague whether Legolas brought Gimli, we all know he did)
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Dec 31, 2011 22:05
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Yeah I definitely read that they were gone from Middle Earth, which would put finality on the Ents as a race. Basically since this is a UK mythology everything but Men has to die out or be eradicated.
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Jan 1, 2012 04:37
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Nilbop posted:Oh for goodness sake. And look how normal Germanic tribes' children turned out.
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Jan 4, 2012 00:57
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Haahhrrrvööödaendt, Lehhhrgöleehhrs.
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Jan 7, 2012 21:31
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He just can't yell. John Wayne also had that problem. He had the weirdest voice when he yelled.
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Jan 7, 2012 22:07
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Octy posted:I had a chat with my uncle the other day who had come over from New Zealand after having spent a bit of time on the film as an extra. My only prior knowledge of such business comes from Ricky Gervais, and from the way my uncle described it, it sounds like a gruelling exercise, mostly in tedium and discomfort. I'm talking about having to wear four layers of winter clothing in 25 degree heat; spending all day around a bonfire, posing for scenes and inhaling smoke; getting up at 5am and home at 11.30pm; having to listen to a poncy Belgian director make requests in a poncy Belgian accent. It was extremely difficult to admit (but now extremely easy to admit) just how much I hated it, considering the fact that I moved here to follow a dream of being a producer/working in production. You have to be made for it. Now I think it is just as important to follow a dream and realize you hate it as it is to follow a dream and have it work out. I'll never regret a decision to choose not to pursue it further. You have to be okay with long and unpredictable hours, standing around a LOT, not having a "homebase" or office or computer, filing you taxes as an independent contractor, basically having everything not be on any kind of a rhythm. In addition, if you aren't an actor, director, producer, writer or art department, there is very little creativity you can contribute. Crew is more like movers or construction. Union guys. Tool belts. Walkie talkies. That sort of thing. I completely understand people who find that exciting but I found it excruciating and actually prefer an office, a daily regiment, the ability to work out every day and 72 degree air conditioning. It took a long time for me to realize this about myself. If you are an extra, be prepared to do absolutely nothing for like 12 hours. If you are crew, be prepared to spend hours breaking everything down after the director and talent go home at 1:00am. I salute these people. Total nightmare for me though.
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Jan 24, 2012 20:30
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I am listening to this at work and loving it and somebody came by that is actually working on the Hobbit and told me that I was a huge nerd. Thought I'd share. I am unfazed and still listening
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Jan 26, 2012 19:15
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I feel like there is about ten percent chance Smaug is going to be anything other than cheesy nonsense. I normally have faith in Peter Jackson but I feel like this is the biggest pitfall in the entire endeavor. To be clear if they make it too serious they'll ruin it and if they make it too silly they'll ruin it and if he's too lizard they'll ruin it and if they make it too Kraken from the Clash reboot they'll ruin it and if I see any Godzilla in it at all they'll ruin it. Basically anything short of a grand slam in innovative artistic genius will be a total abject failure. Confidence is not high for me because the chips seem to be stacked against success. Considering the reaction PJ had to seeing Guillermo del Toro's Smaug drawing I'm thinking he understands the stakes but that doesn't always guarantee positive results. Am I wrong?
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Jan 28, 2012 12:21
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Wade Wilson posted:What about making him look like this? Amazing.
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Jan 30, 2012 17:08
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An observer posted:I like this kind of snakey Smaug: That's amazing. I feel this discussion about legs has only produced two thoughts in my head the entire time. The four leg version  and the two leg version  Thank you for providing something perfect to compete with these two dragons, both of which I love. For the record, I hate both Howe's dragon as well as Lee's.
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Jan 31, 2012 07:26
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Shanty posted:Ha! An extra set of limbs isn't a bad solution, actually. Just to make him seem even more impossibly long and snaky. Having eight limbs takes care of the evolution nerds too.
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Feb 1, 2012 18:33
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My older brother walked out of Fellowship half-way through. In his defense he was sick and I told him there was another hour and a half left. He now owns the extended versions on Blu-Ray but that just makes what he did even more unforgivable. Also my highly religious mom is the worst allegory fiend in the world. At the end of Return of the King that beautiful moment where the eagles so delicately picked up Sam and Frodo was ruined by her whispering in my ear, "And he will raise you up on eagles wings!!" ugh. It really is funny how people who see allegories in LOTR see the allegory they want to see. Try to guess what my history major/WW2 fanatic roommate thinks it is about. Hint: Gandalf is McArthur and Saruman is Rommel.
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Feb 3, 2012 21:55
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Yeah I've read that, told them about that. It does no good. Of course he has to say that they'll say. Besides the part where he wrote a lot of it before WW2 if any kind of allegory exists it has more to do with WW1 and mythology. Frodo's life after coming back to the Shire comes to mind, as does his relationship with Sam.
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Feb 3, 2012 22:14
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Pretty sure I remember Tolkien being pissed the hippies in the 60's/70's were finding all kinds of allegory to their movements, be it cultural revolution or drugs or whatever. edit: Frodo lives! = Kilroy was here
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Feb 4, 2012 04:47
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I have to say I'm with Tolkien on hating allegory. I read Animal Farm as a kid and loved it. Then my dad told me about communism. Then I re-read it and hated it. I was halfway through The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe when my friend told me it was a Christian allegory. It cheapened everything. I feel like it's somebody tricking me into learning some lesson they feel is valuable and when I realize it I feel like a sucker. It's like going on a free vacation to Orlando and when you get there it is a time-share nightmare. I'm sitting here trying to think of an enjoyable allegory and I can't. I'd much rather read a great story and come to my own epiphanies on what lessons are valuable. What if you finished Dune and someone is like...that's the story of Jesus. (thanks Bill Hicks) edit: to be fair I'm talking about books. Allegorical movies are fine. X-Men doesn't bother me. kiimo fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Feb 4, 2012 |
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Feb 4, 2012 06:42
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I think it has elements of a lot of things. I've never heard that though. Please don't link a Herbert quote that that's true and crush my world. Plus I don't think he sat down and said, okay the Atreides are Russia, Arrakis is the Persian Gulf, Shaddam is so and so...I think it has thematic elements of a situation or a framework to tell the story but the story itself isn't a representation of actual events or anything. kiimo fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Feb 4, 2012 |
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Feb 4, 2012 06:51
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It never occurred to me that only the Hobbits disappear when they slip the ring on. Wow. edit: in reference to this Recursive Expanse posted:
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Feb 4, 2012 22:23
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This is probably a good time to mention that I was incredibly disappointed with Galadriel revealing she has a ring of power to Frodo in the film. That passage was so cinematic in my mind's eye, her holding it up to the star. gently caress I'll just quote it. quote:She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Even-star had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood. That's such an amazing passage and one of the few complaints I had about the film was the depiction of this scene. Frankly it could have been so much better. kiimo fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Feb 4, 2012 |
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Feb 4, 2012 22:45
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I'm willing to bet every penny I own that 9-11 had zero influence, intended or otherwise, on any Lord of the Rings film in any way whatsoever. As the editors, director and post production staff are slaving away in editing bays in New Zealand while a terrorist attack on a country on the other side of the planet scrolls across television sets do you really think they stop to say oh hey this is big news let's do some re-shoots! gently caress no. The only conversation they had was the title The Two Towers. I bet a conference call and maybe a couple emails with a nervous New Line SVP took place. It was probably a fifteen minute phone call that ended with Bob Shaye saying "This is a silly conversation, we're not changing a title that was written forty years ago". I am dumbfounded anybody is seriously considering this. It took years after 9-11 for it to leak into music, television and films in any way other than news.
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Feb 5, 2012 21:26
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Data Graham posted:I must point out that Lilo & Stitch (released 2002) was originally scripted and very nearly completed with a climactic scene that involved a jetliner flying through a cityscape and I think maybe crashing into a building (or coming close). After 9/11 happened they pulled the fastest rewrite/rerecord/relayout/reanimation maneuver in living feature-animation memory, and no one was ever the wiser. Yeah I probably should have phrased that better. I meant intentionally adding things to reference it, not altering or removing things that unintentionally referenced it. This contradicts what I was talking about with the title I do realize.
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Feb 5, 2012 22:49
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Kemchimikemkem posted:One thing I don't like about Tolkien is how black-and-white his villains/good guys are. Real life is almost never that plain. poo poo's morally grey. That's just what a villain would say.
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Feb 8, 2012 05:44
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So...are we still in the Fourth Age? Or did the Bessemer Process signify the Fifth Age? One post and this is already the dumbest derail I can remember. kiimo fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Feb 8, 2012 |
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Feb 8, 2012 07:26
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BetterLekNextTime posted:I'd be surprised if there isn't some voice-over wrap-up of everything at some point in the second movie that doesn't show Gollum wrestling with the decision to leave the mountains in search of the Ring. This would be a fantastic epilogue or ending or near the ending. I'm actually going to be upset now if this scene isn't in the film.
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Feb 8, 2012 21:28
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Octy posted:Is it ever explained why Illuvatar was such a dick as to only allow immortality for elves? I mean, surely those poor hobbits deserved it too? True immortality is only given to everyone other than Elves if you think about it.
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Feb 9, 2012 09:17
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Viridiant posted:I feel better knowing that hobbits will have some part in creating an entire world. There will always be buffets.
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Feb 9, 2012 16:59
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The hobbits the hobbits the hobbits the hobbits to Isengard to Isengard. I've been listening for fifteen minutes.
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Feb 9, 2012 23:35
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If they had actually done ten hours of footage and changed it up this would be the single greatest creation since Trapped In The Closet.
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Feb 9, 2012 23:43
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