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Skeleton archers are pure murder. Raise shields, put up resilience, haste yourself, slow, stun, pull out all the stops because each can hit harder than a boss.
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Fangz posted:Skeleton archers are pure murder. Raise shields, put up resilience, haste yourself, slow, stun, pull out all the stops because each can hit harder than a boss. Clearly the Archers in this game got their training in Skyrim 
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Anyone else having trouble staying connected to the online server? Yesterday I was getting constant messages about losing connection to the server, today I can't connect at all. Edit: Connected now, we'll see if I get dropped after a few minutes of playing. Still seems to be dropping me  For content: How should I be dealing with spellcasters as a Bulwark? I'm level 18 now, and I was previously undefeated but I died three times this level, every time to spellcasters. Sometimes it was because I shouldn't be there yet (attack on Derth) but other times it was just because I didn't have a great way to deal with magical damage yet. My current strategy when I see a caster is to Rush to them and use Assault (kills practically everything in one hit), but when there are more than one or when there are other enemies in the way, I feel like I can't really do much, short of switching in to gear with the proper resists. Is Con the stat I should be pumping to survive longer against casters? Blunt Force Trauma fucked around with this message at Jan 6, 2012 around 17:00 |
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Blunt Force Trauma posted:Anyone else having trouble staying connected to the online server? Yesterday I was getting constant messages about losing connection to the server, today I can't connect at all. victrix posted:I did this, but I don't remember how I did it :V Rascyc fucked around with this message at Jan 6, 2012 around 17:12 |
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I just started a new Dwarf Bulwark and the boss of the starting dungeon dropped Skullcleaver. I think my early game is in the bag. What does luck do? I found a +8 Luck amulet and I am wearing it. But there isn't even a luck stat on the character sheet. 100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jan 6, 2012 around 17:05 |
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What races are good at summoning? I've seen a lot of people play Yeek, but I haven't unlocked that yet and I haven't been able to modify the file and unlock it.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 17:21 |
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I really dig the game, but I think I'm going to suck it up, donate some money and unlock Exploration mode. I just keep thinking 'Well, when my summoner draws his last breath, my next character has to do dungeons X, Y, Z again to get back to where I died'. Instead with Exploration mode I can treat it more as a diablolike.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 17:22 |
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Speaking of donators, does the special custom tiles reflect gear changes? Kind of doubt it now that I read the patchnotes that they were added.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 17:25 |
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Connection to online server established. Connection to online server lost, trying to reconnect. I get those two messages popping up all the time when playing the game. I'm only in the tutorial now, but it is just scrolling through both of those in my log incessantly. I made sure to run the game in administrator mode (win 7, 64 bit, by the way), and made an exception for the exe file in Windows Firewall. I checked the OP and didn't see this discussed. Sorry if I'm rehashing. Thank you! 
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 17:42 |
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I started by playing as a couple Dwarf Berserkers. They own. I cleared Derth at level 12, but then he died over and over again because I tried the challenge in Antimagic Racist City at level 12. My second character didn't try that and was basically invincible in Tier 2 dungeons and killed everything. I bought an awesome epic dwarven-steel sword that was immune to teleportation from the relic guy in Last Hope. I went into the Temporal Rift. It turns out The Sword, Not ME, was immune to teleportation. I would get teleported by monsters and then die trying to retrieve it over and over again. So, my worries are assuaged, adventure mode does get crazy. FYI, if anyone is having trouble with the start, dwarfs get a Dwarfbro who is essentially an AI-controlled Dwarf Berserker. He leaves once you finish the starting dungeon, but he can solo that place by himself if he doesn't get surrounded. He steals some XP from you, but when the boss dies you'll be over level 5 regardless. The dwarf boss is also one of the easier ones. If your starting location is Scintillating Caverns, just go somewhere else and come back later. Seriously, that place is annoying. As for me I unlocked Cursed and Archmage and I really want to play one, but I can't really figure out how to play them.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:11 |
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Chinook posted:Connection to online server established. Check your router/cable modem? Could be an actual connection problem maybe? Your firewall wouldn't be blocking this game - you'd get one of those warning popups in the action center if it was, asking you if you want it to have public/private access. Windows doesn't tend to go crazy firewall blocking for the most part.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:11 |
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Chinook posted:Connection to online server established. This is something that only started in the last few days for me. Goon rush effect?
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:13 |
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I've noticed other people complaining about it ingame. Seems like a backend thing, I also see a lot of PlayerX joined/left channel spam.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:18 |
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Yeah, when I say connection problem it could be that particular person, or it could absolutely be the server as well.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:20 |
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Yeah, when I say connection problem it could be that particular person, or it could absolutely be the server as well. Okay, thanks guys. So it's not just me, I suppose. My router shouldn't be a problem, as far as I know. Most other games don't have issues, unless I have to open a certain port to host games or something.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:24 |
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Tsurupettan posted:I really dig the game, but I think I'm going to suck it up, donate some money and unlock Exploration mode. I just keep thinking 'Well, when my summoner draws his last breath, my next character has to do dungeons X, Y, Z again to get back to where I died'. Instead with Exploration mode I can treat it more as a diablolike. Yeah I've kind of been feeling the same way. Love the game but the lack of randomization makes it rough to play as a roguelike sometimes.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:28 |
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Archmages rock. Get flame and manathrust to lvl 5 for the beam attack ASAP, and combined with arcane power that's a one two punch that can kill most things. A single point in Freeze makes a good debuff that will lock down even bosses. I got arcane shield together with a drain life weapon - this meant that when I hit things with my spells sometimes I'd get a shield, and with my heal spells that kept me alive through most boss fights. Until I met those skeletons...
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:32 |
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I had a lot of luck on my archmage going lightning-focused (I unlocked the storm tree with a different character), rank 5 lightning bolt will 1-shot a LOT of poo poo early in the game. You'll need manathrust as backup damage and for dealing with lightning-immune stuff though. Nova and Shock apply daze (most of the time), great for getting a bit of breathing room/healing up. I found this route more effective/safer than my failed attempt at a Fire run, since most fire spells don't do all their damage instantly it gave enemies time to fight back. Most important thing about archmage though is playing defensively - max phase door ASAP and use it to GTFO any time poo poo gets dangerous. The other most important survival thing I found is getting a good damage absorb rune, it's applied instantly so you can pop it any time you think you'll be getting hit soon. Also, dark areas are dangerous, since a mages biggest strength is blowing poo poo up at long distance - get a rank or 3 in illuminate (rank 3 can blind enemies), and you can use arcane eye to scout ahead if you know the general room layout (great for Bill's room in Trollmire, for example, to see if he's coming after you).
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:51 |
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Very awesome game and just what I was looking for after wanting something slightly more complicated than Dredmor. Anyway, I'm wondering if there is a mod that adds food, drink and maybe need for rest to the game? Something similar to how New Vegas does it, in that it doesn't really make it that much harder but gives it a bit more immersion.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 18:54 |
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Indecisive posted:I had a lot of luck on my archmage going lightning-focused (I unlocked the storm tree with a different character), rank 5 lightning bolt will 1-shot a LOT of poo poo early in the game. You'll need manathrust as backup damage and for dealing with lightning-immune stuff though. Nova and Shock apply daze (most of the time), great for getting a bit of breathing room/healing up. I found this route more effective/safer than my failed attempt at a Fire run, since most fire spells don't do all their damage instantly it gave enemies time to fight back. I liked my fire attack since with cooldowns as they are, I can only cast every third turn anyway. Fire spells are more consistent and damaging than Lightning, so what I typically did was Fire, Manathrust, use my third to pop an utility spell (for example, flameshock for the stun, freeze to freeze them) or run away and all through that my fire spell is doing its damage. I hadn't unlocked the Storm spells though, seems like they'd be nice. I didn't really bother with the divination spells. With a phial and a +1 light radius helm, I could see everything anyway.
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The server has been having some connection issues recently. I saw it come up in IRC last night. DarkGod, the guy who wrote most of the game and who maintains te4.org is going through some real life poo poo and may not be around much over the next few days/week(s) (his words). Hopefully when he gets his real life poo poo sorted he can sort out what's going on with the game. For those having infinite cast loops from the m menu Can you guys file bug reports on the Tome forums for me? If there's a lua error that happened can you add that too along with a link to your vault characters? This might be a chronomancy bug that I can take care of while Darkgod is away. But please don't post the errors or vault characters here. I don't want to turn this thread into a bug report thread (especially considering the game is in beta and the guy who fixes 90% of the bugs doesn't keep a close eye on this thread or even have an SA account). e: I actually think I've tracked this bug down and posted a fix on the Tome forums for DarkGod when he gets back. But what I said about bugs in general is good practice. If you guys have the time the Tome forums bug section is DarkGod's official bug tracker so posting bugs there can help improve the chances of stuff getting fixed for next beta. If it DarkGod doesn't respond right away don't worry about it. He tends to go through all the bugs before every beta and try to track everything down he can. oneliquidninja fucked around with this message at Jan 6, 2012 around 21:16 |
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Fangz posted:I liked my fire attack since with cooldowns as they are, I can only cast every third turn anyway. Fire spells are more consistent and damaging than Lightning, so what I typically did was Fire, Manathrust, use my third to pop an utility spell (for example, flameshock for the stun, freeze to freeze them) or run away and all through that my fire spell is doing its damage. I hadn't unlocked the Storm spells though, seems like they'd be nice. Lightning is amazing from the get-go because it's a beam. Even though the damage isn't reliable, you can do fun aiming/maneuvering tricks to hit multiple guys. Flame doesn't become a beam until level 5. Manathrust is a beam at 3 and also owns.
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Lodin posted:Anyway, I'm wondering if there is a mod that adds food, drink and maybe need for rest to the game? Something similar to how New Vegas does it, in that it doesn't really make it that much harder but gives it a bit more immersion. Not yet Lodin. The ability to modify the Tome module is pretty new so not a lot has been released yet. But the module can be modified if people want to start such a project. I believe all you need to know is some Lua and modding instructions on the wiki. There's also a lot of coders/contributors that hang out on IRC if you need more help.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 19:47 |
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Drox posted:Lightning is amazing from the get-go because it's a beam. Even though the damage isn't reliable, you can do fun aiming/maneuvering tricks to hit multiple guys. Flame doesn't become a beam until level 5. Manathrust is a beam at 3 and also owns. I should point this out, because lots of people don't realize this: lightning bolt, by itself, is a beam attack from the start.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 19:47 |
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Ah, found the source of my save freezes on my laptop. Been tracking the resources and eventually the memory footprint eventually balloons to just under 2gb before tanking. Just need to remember to restart the game periodically.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 19:49 |
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notwithoutmyanus posted:I should point this out, because lots of people don't realize this: That's... exactly what I said? 
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For those into facebook here's the Tome 4 facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tales...136914196375989 There's also a link to the new UI coming in the next beta on that page for those that want to check it out. Drag and drop stuff so people can reorganize it how they like.
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Drox posted:Lightning is amazing from the get-go because it's a beam. Even though the damage isn't reliable, you can do fun aiming/maneuvering tricks to hit multiple guys. Flame doesn't become a beam until level 5. Manathrust is a beam at 3 and also owns. Sure, but you can get them there pretty quick and the flame and mana trees are fairly handy later on for manaflow (2nd source of mana regen) and flameshock. (AOE stun)
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:It turns out The Sword, Not ME, was immune to teleportation. I would get teleported by monsters and then die trying to retrieve it over and over again. This is goddamn hysterical. It's like ToME suddenly tore off its face to reveal that you'd really been playing IVAN all along.
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Drox posted:That's... exactly what I said? What I mean is that it doesn't clearly tell you that from the tooltip and so I was just hoping to draw more attention to that lightning bolt can be pretty great from the start.
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Angry Diplomat posted:This is goddamn hysterical. It's like ToME suddenly tore off its face to reveal that you'd really been playing IVAN all along. I agree, I started laughing my rear end off when I read that. I really hope that's intended rather than a bug, and that they put more stuff like this into the game.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 20:59 |
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Is the Maze really slow for anyone else? Seems to really churn, I guess since it's so much bigger than most places I've been so far.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 21:11 |
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Rascyc posted:Is the Maze really slow for anyone else? Seems to really churn, I guess since it's so much bigger than most places I've been so far.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 21:23 |
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:I can't imagine doing the Maze without autoexplore, it just sounds like the worst thing. It was the worst thing. I did the maze a bunch of times before auto explore, and before that, without auto run. It was hellish.
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It's nothing special really if you've played other roguelikes. It's a little bigger than most levels but it's not gargantuan. It's a pretty boring dungeon though since it's just filled with bandits and junk. Just for whatever reason, it runs slower than all the rest of the dungeons.
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This just in, I loving love probability travel. I just corner danced the big minotaur boss to death around a wall. Owned. Yeah, it costs 200 mana to keep sustained, but I lucked into a shitton of +max mana +mana regen. I have 150 mana AFTER I keep it and that spellpower buff sustained. Wowza.
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Been trying a bunch of other classes out and dying a lot, decided to make a dwarven bulwark so I can just turtle up and be unkillable. Got Crooked Club AND Skullcleaver (both good early artifact 1handers) from the boss of the dwarven intro  Now if only I can find that artifact shield I had before...
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| # ? Jan 6, 2012 21:32 |
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:I can't imagine doing the Maze without autoexplore, it just sounds like the worst thing. I didn't realize there was autoexplore. I keep hitting 'o' and waiting for my guy to zip through the level. But yeah, the maze is pretty awful. The entrance to each level is in the upper left, and the exit is in the lower right. I find you almost always get to the exit by heading right from the entrance rather than down. Quirk of the RNG or my imagination? Who knows.
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Indecisive posted:Been trying a bunch of other classes out and dying a lot, decided to make a dwarven bulwark so I can just turtle up and be unkillable. Got Crooked Club AND Skullcleaver (both good early artifact 1handers) from the boss of the dwarven intro The Random Number God is just going to loving murder you.
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Fangz posted:The Random Number God is just going to loving murder you. Pretty sure I'm screwed too. Got Skullcleaver, Flamewrought, and a few very nice random armor items on my reaver. Just hit level 10. Speaking of, for a Reaver, should I use my first tree point on Hexes or Curses?
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