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Cordyceps Headache
Feb 13, 2012



Mortal Sword posted:

The Reapers were really dumb. I remain utterly confused as to where Bioware's reputation as having good writers comes from.

Every Bioware story is "Mary Sue saves the world from complete morons while engaging in a 13-year-old nerd's idea of romance", so they're pretty much indistinguishable from the tales Mookie spins, outside of the higher budget (and the fact that some likeable characters somehow made it into ME2, making it the anomaly).

Bioware is a team of people. The only reason people think Bioware has good writing is because the secondary writers they have for the background stuff are pretty good. The head writers are terrible and write contrived, hackneyed plots. They are the Mookie of the writing team.

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LtStorm
Aug 8, 2010

You'll pay for this, Shady Shrew!


colonelslime posted:

Bioware is a team of people. The only reason people think Bioware has good writing is because the secondary writers they have for the background stuff are pretty good. The head writers are terrible and write contrived, hackneyed plots. They are the Mookie of the writing team.

More importantly, like Mookie, the Bioware writers didn't know how ME was going to end until they were almost finished with the script. And brought in new writers who had to write the ending cold.

Yeah Man
Oct 9, 2011

And if you had, you know, a huge killer robot at your command, yeah, that would just clutter things up; and a lesser person might want that kind of overwhelming force on their side, but you know - where's the challenge in that?


LtStorm posted:

More importantly, like Mookie, the Bioware writers didn't know how ME was going to end until they were almost finished with the script. And brought in new writers who had to write the ending cold.

That's...wow. That's...I don't know if it's better or worse than the head writers coming up with the ending, but it's still poo poo.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

What?


Unless there were additional leaks about the dev process since I stopped following the ME3 spoiler thread, that's not quite how it worked. The lead writer for ME1 and 2 left to go work on Star Wars: The Old Republic, and Mac Walters, a rank-and-file writer on the ME games, was promoted to be the lead for 3. The original ending was known (and heavily foreshadowed in ME2), but Walters opted to change it. According to one of the regular writers, the new ending was written by Walters and the project lead locking themselves in a room for a couple of days and when they emerged, what they had written wasn't subject to the same scrutiny as the rest of the team.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009


ThemeMusicC posted:

Sometimes I forget how widespread that whole debacle was. It makes you remember that people used to actually read Dominic Deegan.

I don't think it's proof that it's still widespread, since, well, it was me. I did that. The shrew faces just fit so well. So it's just me, keeping the memory alive.

I didn't want to be the one to mention it here, since, eh, it's the same "this thing was really horrible" idea as always. This thread gets really weird on weekends, anyway.

Prawn Salad
Dec 7, 2010

I-I still think you're cool,
Onii-chan...


1stGear posted:

Unless there were additional leaks about the dev process since I stopped following the ME3 spoiler thread, that's not quite how it worked. The lead writer for ME1 and 2 left to go work on Star Wars: The Old Republic, and Mac Walters, a rank-and-file writer on the ME games, was promoted to be the lead for 3. The original ending was known (and heavily foreshadowed in ME2), but Walters opted to change it. According to one of the regular writers, the new ending was written by Walters and the project lead locking themselves in a room for a couple of days and when they emerged, what they had written wasn't subject to the same scrutiny as the rest of the team.

Do we know what the original ending was going to be? Where was it foreshadowed?

Unguided
Nov 18, 2009

I like to use the word games in every sentence. Sometimes it doesn't work out so well though games.
- GamesMasterJasper

Internet Kraken posted:

Actually I think even Mookie realized that was dumb.

I wonder, would he have said it was amazing had he not heard the huge outcry over the ending?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

Slightly Amused



Prawn Salad posted:

Do we know what the original ending was going to be? Where was it foreshadowed?

No, becuase the "original ending" he's referring to was just one part of it. Instead of the Reapers trying to protect organics from synthetics, they were instead trying to solve the problem of dark energy inevitably destroying everything. This part was foreshadowed in that ME2 mentioned dark energy several times. Whether this information would have been relayed through a star child and if you would have gotten the same bullshit choices is unknown, so this ending could have been just as bad.

Unguided posted:

I wonder, would he have said it was amazing had he not heard the huge outcry over the ending?

Probably not. I doubt he would have though about it critically if he didn't know that a ton of other people hated it.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!


colonelslime posted:

Bioware is a team of people. The only reason people think Bioware has good writing is because the secondary writers they have for the background stuff are pretty good. The head writers are terrible and write contrived, hackneyed plots. They are the Mookie of the writing team.

I have to assume they're called the head writers because they gave the most head to get the best job.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006

She's from a small village near Surrey and oh my, this lady sure loves going into detail of her growing up and my tea's gone cold and sour.

Really struggling to feign attention at this point.


Oh my god it's been months since its release is "derail every thread in the history of ever into an ME3/Bioware bonanza" still a thing?

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Well to be fair there's not a whole lotta news out of Mookie at this point beyond HEY GUYS ANIME SAINT LOUIS HEY I'LL BE THERE SAY HI TO ME PLEASE OH GOD ACKNOWLEDGE ME.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

Slightly Amused



Don't worry, we'll have a new terrible comic to poke fun at in a few hours.


EDIT: Or not since Mookie can't be bothered to do work before a convention.

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005



Internet Kraken posted:

Don't worry, we'll have a new terrible comic to poke fun at in a few hours.

It's going to be filler. But I think it was suppose to be by a semi-competant artist. Might be interesting.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Internet Kraken posted:

EDIT: Or not since Mookie can't be bothered to do work before a convention.

I cannot comprehend this. You could literally make a Dominic Deegan comic in about 7 minutes. How does he not have time to poo poo out a couple extra ones in advance?

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Drakkel posted:

I cannot comprehend this. You could literally make a Dominic Deegan comic in about 7 minutes. How does he not have time to poo poo out a couple extra ones in advance?

Because he starts drawing each comic literally 7 seven minutes before it's posted.

Mortal Sword
Jun 27, 2008



Drakkel posted:

I cannot comprehend this. You could literally make a Dominic Deegan comic in about 7 minutes. How does he not have time to poo poo out a couple extra ones in advance?

Either he's too lazy to do an extra 7 minutes of work if he has to pack for a con, or the comics really do take him hours to create, and either way it's really loving sad.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Mortal Sword posted:

Either he's too lazy to do an extra 7 minutes of work if he has to pack for a con, or the comics really do take him hours to create, and either way it's really loving sad.

Oh my god can you imagine Mookie literally pouring over his drawing table for hours, dragging his pen across the paper like Sisyphus pushing his boulder. Sweat glistens on his forehead as he stares intently into the page, waiting for the sudden burst of lovely thrash metal induced inspiration.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Mookie drawing Dominic Deegan is like Homer making his own car. He pours himself into the work for as long as he possibly can, never losing his childlike enthusiasm to see it through. Deep down he knows he's he's not really qualified to do this, but some part of him keeps saying "You can do it!"

And then all that hard work comes to fruition and it's the stupidest piece of junk you've ever seen.

Colon V
Sep 30, 2009

Scraggy don' like your kind 'round these-here parts


Drakkel posted:

Mookie drawing Dominic Deegan is like Homer making his own car. He pours himself into the work for as long as he possibly can, never losing his childlike enthusiasm to see it through. Deep down he knows he's he's not really qualified to do this, but some part of him keeps saying "You can do it!"

And then all that hard work comes to fruition and it's the stupidest piece of junk you've ever seen.
Except Mookie makes a new one every single day, and doesn't try to get any better, because it's his 'style'.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.



Drakkel posted:

Oh my god can you imagine Mookie literally pouring over his drawing table for hours, dragging his pen across the paper like Sisyphus pushing his boulder. Sweat glistens on his forehead as he stares intently into the page, waiting for the sudden burst of lovely thrash metal induced inspiration.

Like Tolkein, halfway through the work he realizes it's poo poo and starts over repeatedly. Every day. He just can't figure out what's going wrong, and keeps on keepin' on.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Like Tolkein, halfway through the work he realizes it's poo poo and starts over repeatedly. Every day. He just can't figure out what's going wrong, and keeps on keepin' on.

Can you even imagine how many times he utters "...not METAL enough" in a given day?

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

Mah spoon is too big!


Drakkel posted:

Mookie drawing Dominic Deegan is like Homer making his own car. He pours himself into the work for as long as he possibly can, never losing his childlike enthusiasm to see it through. Deep down he knows he's he's not really qualified to do this, but some part of him keeps saying "You can do it!"

And then all that hard work comes to fruition and it's the stupidest piece of junk you've ever seen.

In Homer's defence, his car wasn't a surprise sex van with 'free Mavple candy' written on the side.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.



Drakkel posted:

Can you even imagine how many times he utters "...not METAL enough" in a given day?

No wonder he has to drink his beer piss-warm, he's probably hoarse as hell from all that muttering.

Alouicious
Feb 7, 2012

"I wish I could explain it to you. The old chief's finally at a loss for words."


Drakkel posted:

Mookie drawing Dominic Deegan is like Homer making his own car. He pours himself into the work for as long as he possibly can, never losing his childlike enthusiasm to see it through. Deep down he knows he's he's not really qualified to do this, but some part of him keeps saying "You can do it!"

And then all that hard work comes to fruition and it's the stupidest piece of junk you've ever seen.

Mookie could never make anything powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a nerf ball.

Complexcalibur
Mar 11, 2007

NUOOOOAAAGH


Maybe we're thinking about this wrong.

Maybe he's doing this on purpose.

"People think I'm a hack who lost his fans? Just look! Look at the filler art people made for me! Filler art they made for me because I'm going to CONVENTIONS! To speak at a PANEL!"

Complexcalibur fucked around with this message at Apr 23, 2012 around 07:28

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

STOP SHITPOSTING ASSHOLES


Less tentacle monster and more tentacle hentai, really.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!


TheHan posted:


Less tentacle monster and more tentacle hentai, really.

God, I even hate his signature

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007


Sheikh of the Couch

TheHan posted:


Less tentacle monster and more tentacle hentai, really.

To be fair, if this was drawn by Mookie then it's a gigantic loving improvement. despite it's obvious hentai tentacle furry monster connotations.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

STOP SHITPOSTING ASSHOLES

Al-Saqr posted:

To be fair, if this was drawn by Mookie than it's a gigantic loving improvement. despite it's obvious hentai tentacle furry monster connotations.

Hahaha, come on dude. See those faint lines there? The guy who drew this sketched out a skeleton beforehand.

Come on.

Mookie posted:

Anime St. Louis convention filler!
ANIME ST. LOUIS was a blast, but as of this writing I've come home very late and I'm exhausted. As promised, there is a filler sketch in place of a comic today. I received some very generous help.

Kate, the guest werewolf tangling with Alduraithel, appears courtesy of PARADIGM SHIFT. Many thanks to Dirk Tiede for the Monday filler, and for letting me wrap a tentacle-esque monster around his comic's main character.

Insert whatever jokes you'd like about furry characters, anime conventions and tentacle monsters here.

The comic resumes tomorrow.



That's all from me for now.
Rock on.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


TheHan posted:


Less tentacle monster and more tentacle hentai, really.

Anybody else get a weird vibe like this is what Mookie's art SHOULD look like after a decade of making comics? The linework is pretty similar to his, and he's still got ridiculous anime hair but his body parts actually look like body parts!

Young Freud
Nov 25, 2006

My old avatar sucked anyway.

Drakkel posted:

Anybody else get a weird vibe like this is what Mookie's art SHOULD look like after a decade of making comics? The linework is pretty similar to his, and he's still got ridiculous anime hair but his body parts actually look like body parts!

She. She's the werewolf form of that blade hair girl in Paradigm Shift. Also, yes, this is what his work should look like. In fact, I might go as far as say that Dirk probably did a pencil sketch, which Terracciano added to then inked over.

gently caress, I hate that, "& Mookie :3" signature, as if he did most of the work.

Colon V
Sep 30, 2009

Scraggy don' like your kind 'round these-here parts


Young Freud posted:

as if he did any work.
Fixed that for you. Mookie doesn't work. He writes a comic for himself that we just happen to be reading.

SynthOrange
May 6, 2007

I never arfed for MORT


Mommy, what's that tentacle beast doing to that werewolf?

Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

Flight is a scientific impossibility.


I like the werewolf's look of mild concern.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

I like the werewolf's look of mild concern.

It looks more like he's dancing with, rather than fighting, the tentacles.

NINbuntu 64
Feb 10, 2007



Drakkel posted:

Oh my god can you imagine Mookie literally pouring over his drawing table for hours, dragging his pen across the paper like Sisyphus pushing his boulder. Sweat glistens on his forehead as he stares intently into the page, waiting for the sudden burst of lovely thrash metal induced inspiration.

I can almost guarantee that this is how he draws and it explains why his art is so stiff. Mookie has likely never done a gesture drawing in his life, let alone a line of action, so it makes all his art look like flattened marionettes. It's purely anecdotal, but this is the exact same loving problem I had with my own art until I started practicing 3D shapes, better curves, and gesture drawing.

I don't think this is a lack of effort in the individual pages. He probably puts loads in simply because he didn't put effort into finding better ways to do things.

DrWorm
Apr 22, 2003

They call me Dr. Worm. Good morning. How are you? I’m Dr. Worm.

NINbuntu 64 posted:

I don't think this is a lack of effort in the individual pages. He probably puts loads in simply because he didn't put effort into finding better ways to do things ignores any and all criticism, and therefore, opportunities to improve.

It's clear that Dominic Deegan is a labor of love for Mookie, but this guy is so in love with himself that it's just masturbation at this point. Anyone who criticizes just doesn't understand the story that he's telling, and that's OK, because you're not the audience anyway.

Transmogrifier
Dec 10, 2004

Keep in mind, transmogrification is a new technology.

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

I like the werewolf's look of mild concern.

Exactly. There's absolutely no tension whatsoever despite the suggestion that the werewolf is in mortal danger. They look like they're trying to do a tango.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004



DrWorm posted:

It's clear that Dominic Deegan is a labor of love for Mookie, but this guy is so in love with himself that it's just masturbation at this point. Anyone who criticizes just doesn't understand the story that he's telling, and that's OK, because you're not the audience anyway.

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bahamutkod
Sep 17, 2006

HA HA! CHIRP! CHIRP!

Transmogrifier posted:

Exactly. There's absolutely no tension whatsoever despite the suggestion that the werewolf is in mortal danger. They look like they're trying to do a tango.

Honestly I'm willing to give the guest artist the benefit of the doubt. I mean it's not like the comic ever really displays any tension or even danger that can be believed to have real consequences--Nimmel's eye doesn't count because it hasn't once inconvenienced him just like Luna's tusks outside of it making 'em depressed.

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