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Rulebook Heavily
Sep 18, 2010

Self Impaled King of Hearts And Storytelling


Matlock Birthmark posted:



Hey everyone, remember how Mookie was saying the story was moving quickly. He meant that he planned to fix that.

Oh look, Dominic is going to have a conversation with the setting's Jesus.

As an equal.

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Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007


I wonder if he forgot how he had Luanneism define God before.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?


Anyone else feel like we're about to be swept away by an unrelenting torrent of drivel courtesy of this Jesus surrogate? I mean, this is the comic that gave us "I am I", and "God is Us, We are God," and now "The face of God is the heart of Magic."

Cordyceps Headache
Feb 13, 2012



= +

Was The Phantom Menace on TV recently?

Cordyceps Headache fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 05:30

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

mater dolorosa

colonelslime posted:

= +

Was The Phantom Menace on TV recently?
Sorry, not seeing it, man. I just see two stupid characters in ridiculous dresses. Mookie's an unoriginal hack, but I think that's reaching.

EDIT: If anything, her dress reminds me of that oe not-archmage Momgan spoke to sometimes. The one with a kind-of-interesting design? The hook-nosed guy?

RoboChrist 9000 fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 05:37

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

How dare you masquerade as Limbo Royalty!

Apparently the reason Luana lost that necklace is because she had two rosaries and a belt made out of the same stuff.

Cordyceps Headache
Feb 13, 2012



RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Sorry, not seeing it, man. I just see two stupid characters in ridiculous dresses. Mookie's an unoriginal hack, but I think that's reaching.

It's those circles in the ring and the weird circular spread of the bottom of her robe. It looks really similar to me, but maybe I'm just crazy.

Shadeoses
May 31, 2011

In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.


~uguu~


Not to mention the small debris belt orbiting her. Is she the sun?

ZeeToo
Feb 20, 2008

I'm a kitty!


Shadeoses posted:

Not to mention the small debris belt orbiting her. Is she the sun?

Yo' prophet's so fat?

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012


Rulebook Heavily posted:

Oh look, Dominic is going to have a conversation with the setting's Jesus.

As an equal.
It's the thought of this happening that gets to me most.

So how often does the actual clergy get to see their prophet? Wasn't Dominic described at one point not being very religious?

OriginalPseudonym
Nov 9, 2009

...and for the longest time I never understood why these people were gone the next day.


That Old Ganon posted:

It's the thought of this happening that gets to me most.

So how often does the actual clergy get to see their prophet? Wasn't Dominic described at one point not being very religious?

That's why it's equal, duh. Because he doesn't subscribe to the spiritual side of things, he can like her as a person without worshipping her.

also does mookie subscribe to r/atheism or something

Mortal Sword
Jun 27, 2008



Just decided to stop the plot cold for this week, Mikey?

Comics spent on the beginning of a vision that reveals nothing useful so far: 3
Comics spent fleeing from a magical desert while being tracked one of the universe's most powerful mages: 0

a dog
Mar 10, 2007



So the necklace is gonna be part of some super-powerful magic ritual or spell right? I don't know why but it feels like he's trying to construct(poorly) some sort of mystic puzzle.

The lady in robes will say some mysterious and vague advice that's supposed to sound deep but is just gibberish. Then he'll have his characters realize at some point that it was a hint to do X with magic McGuffin necklace.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey


Anyone want to bet that Dominic is one of Luana's distant descendants? I wouldn't put it past Mookie to do something like that.

Also how is he seeing Luana now? I suppose it's something we can chalk up to the poorly defined nature of being a seer that allows Mookie to pull new powers out of his rear end whenever it's convenient.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

STOP SHITPOSTING ASSHOLES

Her cozy little grandma sweater ruins the entire design. Learn another texture you hack.

Cordyceps Headache
Feb 13, 2012



Scintilla posted:

Anyone want to bet that Dominic is one of Luana's distant descendants? I wouldn't put it past Mookie to do something like that.

Also how is he seeing Luana now? I suppose it's something we can chalk up to the poorly defined nature of being a seer that allows Mookie to pull new powers out of his rear end whenever it's convenient.

Not Dominic.

You think it's just a coincidence that she's named Luana?

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Mookie posted:


Oracles and prophets. May 4, 2012 Posted by Mookie
After a couple of Friday cliffhangers, I felt it was time for a break. Though no one is any immediate danger (yet) I'd like to think things are intriguing enough to make you want to come back on Monday to see what happens next. It's not every day Dominic gets a vision of one of Callan's most renowned prophets.

I received the proof from the printer for SUPERGREG vs. SNOWSONG and I'm happy with the way it looks. If all goes well after a minor tweak or two it should go on sale before I leave for A-KON next month. If there is a delay, I'll likely keep the tradition of debuting new volumes at that convention if I can, even if I wouldn't really consider this short story a "volume." It's more of a comic book, both in size and in theme.

I'm looking forward to the next round of conventions, but I'm also going to enjoy this month off from traveling. As much as I love coming out and meeting you fine folks, I'm a homebody at heart.

That's all from me for now.
Rock on and have a nice weekend!



You cannot get more delusional than this posted:


I'd like to think things are intriguing enough to make you want to come back on Monday to see what happens next.

Cyrai
Sep 12, 2004


'' :Hey honey? Have we had any complete and utter bullshit in the comic recently?"
: No, we've just had offensive, revisionist claptrap and confusing crap lately.
'' :PEFRECT!

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey


colonelslime posted:

Not Dominic.

You think it's just a coincidence that she's named Luana?

I thought about that at first, but that would imply that Luna might actually do something important without being a doormat. And surely that goes against Mookie's tastes.

WeaponBoy
Sep 27, 2000

The way he truly is.


WeaponBoy posted:

Except Dominic knows better than religion. Religion won't be wrong per se, but he will see deeper than those regular priests and poo poo.

That didn't take long.

Also, he didn't even try to stylize the letters this time, just sort of made them look like poo poo cobbled together, then it all fell apart and then it turned into literal debris. I think I need to go read a chapter of GC with some Coyote artwork in it now.

WeaponBoy fucked around with this message at May 4, 2012 around 07:29

Toes
Dec 6, 2011

Clods to the left of me,
Bookahs to the right.


colonelslime posted:

Not Dominic.

You think it's just a coincidence that she's named Luana?

To be fair, naming your kids after famous religious figures isn't a revolutionary concept. This is Mookie though, so of course there has to be a direct connection between the two.

Mulatto Butts
Aug 9, 2006

BLACK ASS MOMMA
WHITE ASS DADDY


One of the most revered prophets? I thought she was THE prophet, end of story ... ?

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Mulatto Butts posted:

One of the most revered prophets? I thought she was THE prophet, end of story ... ?

Surely the Episcopalian Scapilans must have had their own prophets.

Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

Flight is a scientific impossibility.


Oh look, literally the dumbest thing possible is happening. Tune in next week as this turns out to be Luana's vision of god and I put myself face first through a wood chipper.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008



Remember when Luna was infertile, but Dominic had to come along and be told he was even worse off and it all had to be about him with alterists?

This is the same thing. A priest goes to a desert to have a spiritual death and rebirth but no, its Dominic who gets to see the prophet and have something revealed to him, and he wasn't even there.

No one gets to have anything amazing to them except a deegan. Stunt cant just hide the treasure a Deegan must have it, a Deegan must see the prophet, a Deegan must stop The king and the Beast. Deegan Deegan Deegan.

Vicas
Dec 9, 2009

World's #1
Ovoid Sharpshooter
2012


Scintilla posted:

I thought about that at first, but that would imply that Luna might actually do something important without being a doormat. And surely that goes against Mookie's tastes.

Pfff, it fits in fine. Dominic just needs to boost Luna's confidence to make her see her divine heritage. In the end he gets all the credit as she tearily thanks him for her new super mage powers

AggsOfSpades
Sep 5, 2011


How is this happening, anyway?

I get that second sight might pick up on strong magical energies embedded in the necklace, but where does that leave the writing? Or the flashback of Stunt?

Even as an excuse to infodump, and there will be an infodump and it will be stupid, it seems really unfocused and stupid.

Surly Duff
May 6, 2007

Surly only looks out for one guy -- Surly.


Mookie posted:

After a couple of Friday cliffhangers, I felt it was time for a break. Though no one is any immediate danger (yet) I'd like to think things are intriguing enough to make you want to come back on Monday to see what happens next.

Friday is easily my favorite day of Dominic Deegan. I love seeing the incoherent, illogical, and easily brushed-away cliffhangers that Mookie puts into his comics in order to try and introduce tension into his story. I love it when he wastes 4 panels on Friday in order to shoehorn in something that will be resolved in 4 panels on Monday.

Good writers have long since realized that constantly saying "How will they get out of this new danger?!" at the end of a chapter only to quickly and cheaply resolve it right at the beginning of the next chapter has diminishing returns. There are only so many times you can create an interesting "immediate danger" cliffhanger without making the resolution feel cheap.

If Mookie had created a compelling story with characters that we care about, we'd be guaranteed to tune in on Monday, regardless of artificial dangers. But even he seems to worry that we'll forget about his comic in two days, so he forces in pointless cliffhangers and publicly worries about us coming back when he doesn't. It's a testament to Mookie's weakness and insecurities as a writer.

Tatum Girlparts
Sep 8, 2011

Do you think you can destroy me with your Nexus? I who served Thuganomics, I who commanded The Cenation, hundreds of years before you were on NXT?

You know, I just really hope Lady Jesus just screams 'who are you to approach me' and vaporizes Dominic or something.

Like, I know this is gonna end with him talking to her like a peer because gently caress it, but I think that'd be the greatest end to a comic ever.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

How dare you masquerade as Limbo Royalty!

Surly Duff posted:

Good writers have long since realized that constantly saying "How will they get out of this new danger?!" at the end of a chapter only to quickly and cheaply resolve it right at the beginning of the next chapter has diminishing returns. There are only so many times you can create an interesting "immediate danger" cliffhanger without making the resolution feel cheap.

Mookie learned everything he knows about writing from old adventurer serials. You know, the ones they used to show in theatres in which every reel ended in Dick Danger dangling off the edge of a cliff while the narrator said, "Will Dick be able to come back from the edge of defeat? Who will save Miss Penelope? Who will stop that Dastardly Doctor Illwill? Find out next time on the Incredible Adventures of Dick Danger!"?

Mookie does the same thing except Deegan is never even allowed to get to the edge of the cliff.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004



Razorwired posted:

Mookie learned everything he knows about writing from old adventurer serials.
That's giving him too much credit. Mookie learned everything he knows about writing from Saturday morning cartoons and animes.

Tempo 119
Apr 17, 2006

I can't hear it


It's like the old Doctor Who serials that had to have a cliffhanger at the end of each part - even if the plot didn't lend itself to one, something would just happen for no reason and undo itself next episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw6OwJQDCoM

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003

Would you think I was playing if I did...
THIS!


Tempo 119 posted:

It's like the old Doctor Who serials that had to have a cliffhanger at the end of each part - even if the plot didn't lend itself to one, something would just happen for no reason and undo itself next episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw6OwJQDCoM
Please tell me this was resolved by him somehow getting back up onto the walkway and resuming his travel.

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Tempo 119 posted:

It's like the old Doctor Who serials that had to have a cliffhanger at the end of each part - even if the plot didn't lend itself to one, something would just happen for no reason and undo itself next episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw6OwJQDCoM

Holy poo poo, I knew exactly which clip you were referring to before I clicked on the link. Best useless cliffhanger ever!

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey


Tempo 119 posted:

It's like the old Doctor Who serials that had to have a cliffhanger at the end of each part - even if the plot didn't lend itself to one, something would just happen for no reason and undo itself next episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw6OwJQDCoM

And yet even this totally ridiculous cliffhanger is a dozen times better than all of Mookie's cliffhangers put together.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008



I like friday's cliffhangers because every week it turns into a guessing game where everyone tries to out-stupid each other into predicting the most terrible way the situation could be resolved on monday. and 90% of the time no one manages to predict it because no one can reach Mookie's level of terrible writing even when trying.

Talonic
Oct 27, 2010


Mulatto Butts posted:

One of the most revered prophets? I thought she was THE prophet, end of story ... ?

I hate myself for actually remembering this. She's "one of" the most revered prophets because every race has their own prophet they regard. The Semashi, the orcs, the Qualenti, the NOBLE SPELLWULVES, even the slimes; all have their own prophets. One moment. Prepare yourself for critical mass of smug douchebag.



That's right; every single "first prophet" of every single race had their first vision at the same time.

And look, it's an authority figure with skunkstripe hair. *shockgaspawe*

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

Oh look, literally the dumbest thing possible is happening. Tune in next week as this turns out to be Luana's vision of god and I put myself face first through a wood chipper.

If that happens I will literally plan to, at some point in the next five years, fly over to America and kick Mookie in the butt.

Palisader
Mar 14, 2012



Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

Oh look, literally the dumbest thing possible is happening. Tune in next week as this turns out to be Luana's vision of god and I put myself face first through a wood chipper.

Yeah, this is the one that I'd bet money on, if I had money to bet. Or cared.

I'm also prepared for this little interlude to be somehow directly related to the cave-in that buried Rilian and/or saving him from the cave-in. Dom solves all the problems and becomes god!

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WebDog
Jun 14, 2006


One thing I cannot really get is how someone who has A BA in Writing, Literature & Publishing manages to fail to understand the basics of a three act structure. Mookie's structure feels like it's aping Dan Brown's habit of a cliffhanger at the end of each chapter - yet Brown manages to keep the action compelling even though he's not that great a writer.

Everything Moookie writes reads horrifically like poo poo I did when I was 14. "Oh we have to put them in danger and so there's a demon buried under the island who suddenly wakes up and our band of cliches have to fight him...and the demon has a soul stone in his forehead..."
Just I didn't rage against jocks, beer and the evils of infidelity.

Reading back is like reading a list of things I was into at the time. There's some horridly written flirtation "Oh I wub you, no I do".
Everything reads like the appendixes from Lord of the Rings...just with no logic and set in cursive font for some reason.

My saving grace was seeing that Dungeons and Dragons movie and realizing it was basically my poo poo come to life because I assumed fantasy "has no rules" and looked easy.

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