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Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



So... it's not hardware related? I'm glad everyone involved understands the complexities of system design.

Although this is the one fix that could convince me to keep playing this game.

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Scarf
Jun 23, 2005

Hello.


Mr Man posted:

I can kinda understand the hate for Metro, because its a meatgrinder and a haven for USAS+Frag poo poo...

But holy Hell do I love the giant numbers I get when playing this map. I'm pretty sure if I ever cared about SPM I'd play this map on softcore with the USAS+Frag so I could gain a higher SPM.

But its just way more fun on Hardcore with a bolt action sniper rifle, taclight, straightpull and either ironsights or the 4x scope.

We had a great game of Metro last night. I actually started out w/ USAS+frag only because I've had it unlocked for a while and really hadn't used it. I only used it for 8 kills though, then for the remaining 12 kills I just used the F2000, which I REALLY like

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


yeah the f2k is a freaking lazerbeam ... really enjoy that weapon.

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


What the gently caress?










edit: vvv Dude, that means he's played more Squad Deathmatch than any other mode. Presumably roughly everyone has played every mode at least once. That would be a fairly worthless filter.

Beelzebozo fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2012 around 16:53

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


now I know that has to be an error, since I'm sure more than one person has played SquadDM, there's an unlock which requires it!

weaaddar
Jul 17, 2004
HAY GUYS WHAT IS TEH INTERWEBNET, AND ISN'T A0L the SECKZ!? :LOL: 1337
PS I'M A FUCKING LOSER


Now could they fix the voice chat on xbox? It's okay when 2 guys are talking in your squad, but as soon as that third guy pipes in you can't understand anyone.

Worse yet, if some guy has a busted mic and its all static 24/7 you can mute him on the dashboard but you get to hear that bullshit static.

The only solution is party chat which works perfectly, but that really only makes sense when I'm playing with friends. I mostly pub when I'm grinding, and having a not poo poo teammate who's talking can help.

Yesterday, I had a wookie actually use a mav for me and place it in the elevator room under the escalator in metro for me because I could talk to him. Unfortunately, once two guys start talking, a third usually will and then I couldn't understand any of them. "They... are... escalator...gently caress... you cut out?"

And I've played 10 matches of squad deathmatch. I wish I never had to, that mode is truly awful. Either the map is wide open and the LAV rapes everyones face. Or the map is all buildings so the LAV is useless. Regardless I always run to it and try to blow it when held by an enemy. Inadvertently, 2 or more of my squad mates are recons hiding somewhere, and I guess since they aren't dying they aren't hurting me too bad. That's usually left with one assualt who might be marginally useful, and me as an engie so I can blast the LAV/repair it when I get it. Oh and metro is a wide open field without an LAV so your teammates just get shot in the face over by snipers over and over again.

weaaddar fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2012 around 16:58

Esk1
Dec 19, 2007



Smelly posted:

Looking back at my gun stats, I'm 1 off from unlocks for a lot of guns. I think it's being forced to use different weapons depending on what team I'm on that's throwing me off.

The gun unlocks are kills based where the gun unlocks are level/XP based per kit. If you want certain attachments for a gun TDM for a round or two is a quick way to get them.

bringer
Oct 16, 2005

I'm out there Jerry and I'm LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT


Smelly posted:

Looking back at my gun stats, I'm 1 off from unlocks for a lot of guns. I think it's being forced to use different weapons depending on what team I'm on that's throwing me off.

Once you get a certain amount of XP in a class you'll start unlocking guns you can use on both sides which makes earning unlocks for them a lot easier. It's annoying early on but as soon as you get the M416 for Assault or the SCAR-H for Engineer you should use them over the M16 or M4. The M249 for Support is no longer the face destroying gun it was on launch but it's still very good, plus has a giant box of belt fed goodness in place of the 45rd magazines the first two Support guns have, so again, use it to power through some unlocks that'll work regardless of team.

causticBeet
Mar 2, 2010


The M249 is so much fun with extended mags and a bipod. I had a game on metro yesterday where I literally would just hold down the trigger in a hallway and rack up kills. Its easy to fake people out - if you fire for a few seconds, then let off the trigger they assume youre reloading and pop out. Had my mic been in, everyone could have heard me laughing maniacally.

The Wormy Guy
May 7, 2002


Braggo posted:

Good games tonight Scott and Marykate.

Yeah great few games, sorry I don't play with a headset and I usually have the volume down pretty low (3 month old baby). I did hear you say something to Scott like "lol marykateolsen" then he must have told you I was a goon or something. Next thing I know I get a friend request. It's crazy how much better you do when playing with goons.

Scob
Jul 17, 2005



The Wormy Guy posted:

Yeah great few games, sorry I don't play with a headset and I usually have the volume down pretty low (3 month old baby). I did hear you say something to Scott like "lol marykateolsen" then he must have told you I was a goon or something. Next thing I know I get a friend request. It's crazy how much better you do when playing with goons.

Yeah guys I locked up and tried getting back in but wouldnt let me and it was close to bed time for me anyways. I had fun even if we played like 5 straight games of conquest assault.

Braggo
Jul 26, 2005


The Wormy Guy posted:

Yeah great few games, sorry I don't play with a headset and I usually have the volume down pretty low (3 month old baby). I did hear you say something to Scott like "lol marykateolsen" then he must have told you I was a goon or something. Next thing I know I get a friend request. It's crazy how much better you do when playing with goons.

Haha yep, I did enjoy your psn id. I've got to go through the ps3krew again on http://battlefieldgoons.com/ and add/remove people so I make sure I've got the most active goons on my friends list.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

Scarf posted:

We had a great game of Metro last night. I actually started out w/ USAS+frag only because I've had it unlocked for a while and really hadn't used it. I only used it for 8 kills though, then for the remaining 12 kills I just used the F2000, which I REALLY like

I rocked the L85A2 and the 870 that round and wound up going 29-8. I forgot how much fun Hardcore is if you actually pay attention.

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


The Wormy Guy posted:

I usually have the volume down pretty low (3 month old baby).

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

you're a good looking dude and your baby is cute haha

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

Please tell you have a second controller for him to play Battlefield with you. And by play I mean let him slobber all over. I used to use an old Playstation controller for my nephew whenever he was hanging out with me for a few hours.

Someguy
Jul 15, 2001


Scarf posted:

You can stop when you reach 1st

Unfortunately I probably won't be able to crack the top 10, if you check out the battlelogs of the dudes on the leader boards they all have one disturbing(pathetic) thing in common; they only play one map(canals) then quit and do it all over again.

They kind of ruin the leader boards for regular assholes like me who just want to play the game normally, and I can't think of anything that would kill my enjoyment of this game faster then playing like that.

Shnakepup
Oct 16, 2004

Paraphrasing moments of genius

Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

Hah, I have a 4 month old as well. Clearly we need to form a clan.

I'm going to try and play a lot tonight. The past couple of nights have been...well, let's say frustrating affairs that eventually end with me ejecting the game in disgust and putting MW3 back in. But the few times it goes good, it's a blast. I'm hoping playing with goons will enliven the experience, if for nothing else than to have people to actually talk to.

Any advice for someone too conditioned by CoD? It's rather frustrating to spawn in, say, a Kharg Island conquest game, run 8 loving miles towards some contested point only to be randomly knifed in the back and have to start all over again back at the same spawn point because everyone on my squad is either off doing gently caress-all or is just like me (read: bad at the game).

Scarf
Jun 23, 2005

Hello.


Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

D'awwww

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


I'm happy now that the PWN score has changed, mainly because I'm now in the top 10 on 360

Defib kills are the best kills...

The Wormy Guy
May 7, 2002


Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

Nice! 50% of the time I get to play she's strapped to my chest in a Baby Bjorn, cooing and sleeping for most of the time. Except when I yell out MOTHER gently caress! or gently caress THAT BULLSHIT MOTHERFUCKER! then she tends to wake up, which usually ends my gaming sessions. I need to learn how to keep it down.

Shnakepup posted:

Hah, I have a 4 month old as well. Clearly we need to form a clan.

Agreed, maybe I'll roll with a BABY tag or POOP.

Chalupa Joe
Mar 4, 2007


What's wrong with the PP-19?

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


Mr Man posted:

I'm happy now that the PWN score has changed, mainly because I'm now in the top 10 on 360

Defib kills are the best kills...

Well good. You earned that spot. Your defib kills are a lot more impressive than the spoils of hours of Op Metró MAV bowling. You know, until I passive aggressively change my mind about this and jerk your precious ranking right out from under you.


The Wormy Guy posted:

50% of the time I get to play she's strapped to my chest in a Baby Bjorn

Ha ha ha, get out of me head!

Sometimes I feel like I'm kinda squishing his legs awkwardly when I'm seated with him in that thing, but he doesn't seem to mind.

DehatstyTopinbout
Dec 28, 2004

C4
is the motherfucking answer


Sorry cause I'm sure this was already covered in the last thread but if I were to get off my lazy rear end and get a headset then what would you guys recommend for PS3?

Not that I'll probably even remember to use it effectively. On the odd chance that I play at the same hours as goons and make it into a goon game then all you'll probably hear is an occasional "Aaaaah, gently caress." when I get gunned down trying to jihad a tank or something. It'd be nice to have the lovely voice chat directly in my ear though because I can baaaaarely hear you guys talk over the action in game without one. I'm assuming using a headset will provide that function.

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.


Chalupa Joe posted:

What's wrong with the PP-19?

A lot.

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



DehatstyTopinbout posted:

Sorry cause I'm sure this was already covered in the last thread but if I were to get off my lazy rear end and get a headset then what would you guys recommend for PS3?

Not that I'll probably even remember to use it effectively. On the odd chance that I play at the same hours as goons and make it into a goon game then all you'll probably hear is an occasional "Aaaaah, gently caress." when I get gunned down trying to jihad a tank or something. It'd be nice to have the lovely voice chat directly in my ear though because I can baaaaarely hear you guys talk over the action in game without one. I'm assuming using a headset will provide that function.

The official PS3 one owns. Had mine two years and the battery still holds a charge like... for hours upon hours. It's crystal clear too (when the voice chat programming actually allows it to be).

Braggo
Jul 26, 2005


DehatstyTopinbout posted:

Sorry cause I'm sure this was already covered in the last thread but if I were to get off my lazy rear end and get a headset then what would you guys recommend for PS3?

Not that I'll probably even remember to use it effectively. On the odd chance that I play at the same hours as goons and make it into a goon game then all you'll probably hear is an occasional "Aaaaah, gently caress." when I get gunned down trying to jihad a tank or something. It'd be nice to have the lovely voice chat directly in my ear though because I can baaaaarely hear you guys talk over the action in game without one. I'm assuming using a headset will provide that function.

I like my Sony Wireless Headset.

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


Beelzebozo posted:

Well good. You earned that spot. Your defib kills are a lot more impressive than the spoils of hours of Op Metró MAV bowling. You know, until I passive aggressively change my mind about this and jerk your precious ranking right out from under you.



to be honest 6 of those kills are science.. we got together trying to find out HOW THE gently caress you actually get kills with them.... now I know, I've managed to get an extra 4...

..Now I have little else to unlock I might start going out killing dudes on purpose with them.


I've posted it before but if you want you can add what I found to the OP

Defib kills
  • The only effective way to defib kill is to go prone in-front of the enemy and shock their toes, that has a 80-100% chance of first hit success.
  • Chest hits are totally random, this includes back, meaning you might kill them in the first blast, or the 10th blast.
  • Crouching and zapping their toes has about 50% chance on first hit success, but it shouldn't take longer than 3 zaps.
  • REMEMBER to keep holding the trigger, it really really quickly re-zaps them and it makes little noise, so you can zap a guy, hold trigger till he dies. It will throw them into a stun animation, and I think from memory it also fucks with the ironsights if the enemy is looking down them. But then again you're at pointblank range so be wary they will hipfire.
  • It will on average kill someone quicker than the repair torch will.
  • If you see someone on the mortar, or soflaming, or on a Toemissle, then go for it, zap away. Everyone else just ignore them, you will die before you kill them.
  • IT DOES NO DAMAGE UNTIL IT KILLS! and they WILL know your hitting them!
  • EXPECT TO DIE ALOT!

The Downfall
Apr 10, 2010

Listen guys I'm 18 and I am a god damn department manager, just kidding I'm a fucking bagger, and I love talking about stupid bagger stories. Ask me about my secret F-Y-A-D account, just kidding I call it 'the yad'


Framptonlive posted:

I'm having trouble finding a class to stick with now that I have everything unlocked. Should I just be a jack of all trades?

I ran engineer from the get-go. And I still find myself playing that over everything. Almost on my 3rd service star

The Downfall
Apr 10, 2010

Listen guys I'm 18 and I am a god damn department manager, just kidding I'm a fucking bagger, and I love talking about stupid bagger stories. Ask me about my secret F-Y-A-D account, just kidding I call it 'the yad'


Beelzebozo posted:

Sup 3 month old baby buddy?

drat man, you're like me and look nothing like a goon haha. Anyway, if I can get my friend to loan me his PVR I plan on making a Helicopter Scout/Attack guide for everyone to go along with my posts.

E: Oh balls, sorry for the double post

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


The Downfall posted:

I ran engineer from the get-go. And I still find myself playing that over everything. Almost on my 3rd service star

Yeah it's pretty much the best overall class, since right now you can snipe with shotguns and frag rounds, go close up and kill with the G18, destroy vehicles, and repair.

Although, Support is way more effective at killing vehicles.

I find that Recon is HELL fun to play, if you play it with PDW's, Shotguns, or my favourite, bolt-action sniper rifles with taclights, straight pull bolts and either 4xscopes or no scopes.. (This setup RAPES in hardcore)

DEER HUNTING SEASON!

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


Mr Man posted:

if you want you can add what I found to the OP

I have done exactly this! Thanks for the write-up.

DehatstyTopinbout posted:

if I were to get off my lazy rear end and get a headset then what would you guys recommend for PS3?

Added this to the OP as well since it seems to come up a lot. If anybody has a strong recommendation for anything other than the official Sony ones then let me know. Right now I just threw those in there because that's all I can remember ever seeing any of you recommend (but then I don't play PS3 so I have no finger in this pie).

bringer
Oct 16, 2005

I'm out there Jerry and I'm LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT


The Downfall posted:

I ran engineer from the get-go. And I still find myself playing that over everything. Almost on my 3rd service star

Use whatever it takes to win. I find myself playing engineer or assault more than anything because assault comes in handy when you're running low on tickets and engineers get rockets and the M4A1, and both classes excel at killing people while you run around like a maniac. Recon can come in handy if you're having trouble making it through the defense -- a forward spawn beacon on Op Metro can be the deciding factor between winning and losing, and dropping a MAV in a highly trafficked area gives your team a big advantage as long as they can read the minimap.

Also a general tip: Don't forget to juggle your squad perks to maximize effectiveness. You gain nothing by doubling up on something so make sure to talk it over with your crew and have people running unique perks. It's a greater benefit than you think, I can't count the number of times Squad Flak has saved my life.

DELETED
Nov 14, 2004
Disgruntled

Mr Man posted:

Yeah it's pretty much the best overall class, since right now you can snipe with shotguns and frag rounds, go close up and kill with the G18, destroy vehicles, and repair.

Although, Support is way more effective at killing vehicles.

I find that Recon is HELL fun to play, if you play it with PDW's, Shotguns, or my favourite, bolt-action sniper rifles with taclights, straight pull bolts and either 4xscopes or no scopes.. (This setup RAPES in hardcore)

DEER HUNTING SEASON!

SV98 with a suppressor sounds like an air rifle

The Downfall
Apr 10, 2010

Listen guys I'm 18 and I am a god damn department manager, just kidding I'm a fucking bagger, and I love talking about stupid bagger stories. Ask me about my secret F-Y-A-D account, just kidding I call it 'the yad'


Beelzebozo posted:

I have done exactly this! Thanks for the write-up.


Added this to the OP as well since it seems to come up a lot. If anybody has a strong recommendation for anything other than the official Sony ones then let me know. Right now I just threw those in there because that's all I can remember ever seeing any of you recommend (but then I don't play PS3 so I have no finger in this pie).

Thanks again for all your hard work on the site and OP. Means alot man to have a such a good op


'I'm getting hosed up the rear end over here'

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


DELETED posted:

SV98 with a suppressor sounds like an air rifle

In comparison, the USAS+Frag combo sounds like a tank shell, and the projectile looks as big as one too!

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


bringer posted:

Also a general tip: Don't forget to juggle your squad perks to maximize effectiveness. You gain nothing by doubling up on something so make sure to talk it over with your crew and have people running unique perks. It's a greater benefit than you think, I can't count the number of times Squad Flak has saved my life.

Ah, excellent tip! Added to the OP's team tactics for new players section.

The Downfall posted:

Thanks again for all your hard work on the site and OP. Means alot man to have a such a good op

I'm just a humble facilitator of fun, my man.

Saints Crow
Aug 25, 2006

Johnny is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all bangers



Mr Man posted:

In comparison, the USAS+Frag combo sounds like a tank shell, and the projectile looks as big as one too!

The first time I encountered it I was wondering how an LAV got in to Nosehair TDM.

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

Anyone want to grind out some squad deathmatch with me? I want to get the L85 but it keeps putting me on loser teams that don't even get half of the kills needed, mostly because people keep quitting ad nauseum and it's hard to win with that sort of handicap

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Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

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Scott what the gently caress do you do that lets you shoot twice with the tank? You don't have to reload ever?

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