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10 Beers: May 21, 2005; Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Beelzebozo posted:

I think I just heard the sound of Flex falling out of his chair from all the way across town.

Thank god I wasn't doing anything important!

# ? May 1, 2012 11:51

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# ? May 19, 2013 19:58

CrackerCrucifix: May 14, 2007

Stew Man Chew posted:

This was pretty great, dude basically went from farting around on the ground trying to cap points under Our Valuable Overwatch to saying "gently caress it", plugging in his microphone and climbing up the crane to join us.

Next game he said "I don't think I've had this much fun sniping in a long time."

Feel good pubby of the month right here.

We ought to fart around more this afternoon.

# ? May 1, 2012 15:22

Raskolnikov2089: Nov 3, 2006; Schizzy to the matic

I really hate stupid teammates.

We're down by 200 tickets, but holding A & B on Metro. I manage to sneak to C. I hunker down and wait for my squad to spawn on me since no one else is able to get past the choke at B.

I wait for 40 tickets. My squadmates die numerous times, never spawn on me. Fine, I switch to another squad. Same thing happens, no one spawns on the guy in perfect position to 3 cap with a little help.

Switch to another squad. Still no one spawns in on me. At this point I've been waiting for almost 100 tickets for someone to realize that they don't have to keep dying at the B choke point and can spawn behind enemy lines.

After switching between squads repeatedly 2-3 times, I finally give up, roll up on the bad guys from behind and wipe out 2 squads before they take me down.

What the hell is wrong with people that they want to keep running into a meatgrinder instead of taking an obvious opportunity to outflank and ream the enemy team?

# ? May 1, 2012 16:09

causticBeet: Mar 2, 2010

DehatstyTopinbout posted:

I'm at work now but when I get off I'm really tempted to find a hardcore server and spend the entire game jumping in front of moving friendly vehicles to see if I can get pubbies kicked for passive team kills.

I do this in Red Orchestra on one of those super spergy clan servers where everyone like role plays army men or something. It is loving hilarious.

# ? May 1, 2012 16:13

Smelly: May 6, 2005; friendship is magic

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

What the hell is wrong with people that they want to keep running into a meatgrinder instead of taking an obvious opportunity to outflank and ream the enemy team?

"Gotta get them sweet kills, brah."

Most pubbies don't even notice that there are flags.

# ? May 1, 2012 16:14

Stew Man Chew: Sep 14, 2008; Permission to treat the witness as hostile?

CrackerCrucifix posted:

We ought to fart around more this afternoon.

okey dokey, I got a meeting at 2pm but will be free after that I reckon.

# ? May 1, 2012 17:18

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

I really hate stupid teammates.

We're down by 200 tickets, but holding A & B on Metro. I manage to sneak to C. I hunker down and wait for my squad to spawn on me since no one else is able to get past the choke at B.

I wait for 40 tickets. My squadmates die numerous times, never spawn on me. Fine, I switch to another squad. Same thing happens, no one spawns on the guy in perfect position to 3 cap with a little help.

Switch to another squad. Still no one spawns in on me. At this point I've been waiting for almost 100 tickets for someone to realize that they don't have to keep dying at the B choke point and can spawn behind enemy lines.

After switching between squads repeatedly 2-3 times, I finally give up, roll up on the bad guys from behind and wipe out 2 squads before they take me down.

What the hell is wrong with people that they want to keep running into a meatgrinder instead of taking an obvious opportunity to outflank and ream the enemy team?

(I really just wanted to post this so Drekins could see what I was talking about the other day)

# ? May 1, 2012 18:22

Stew Man Chew: Sep 14, 2008; Permission to treat the witness as hostile?

The meta-game of stealth is actually quite interesting and fun to play in this iteration of battlefield. It's difficult to drop a dude reliably from any sort of distance so you have a lot of decisions about whether to engage, make noise, deal damage but not kill, etc. to make while you're sneaking around in a conquest setting. And then you can elect to try to take the point (alerting everyone) or wait for reinforcements etc.

Now if we could just get past the loving linear map design more often. Fuckstorm, Metro, Damavand, Bazaar, argh.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:28

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

Stew Man Chew posted:

Now if we could just get past the loving linear map design more often. Fuckstorm, Metro, Damavand, Bazaar, argh.

It'd be really nice if you could just C4 yourself a new tunnel in Damavand.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:30

Cannot Find Server: Aug 13, 2008

Scarf posted:

It'd be really nice if you could just C4 yourself a new tunnel in Damavand.

It'd be nicer if you could C4 the supports in Davamand and just destroy the whole mountain and the control point within, forcing players to run over the mountain to the 2 remaining points. Or do the same at Metro and leave just the one point outside for the teams to fight over.

Please make this kind of poo poo happen in BF4, DICE.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:33

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

But then you'd have to touch the death trees.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:36

tomapot: Apr 7, 2005; Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.

HML and I were looking for some matches to play last night and got kicked a few times. Once for being too good. The other time it was a Metro server with a description of "no darts, no frag, etc". Our team was so awful (not spawning on us) and getting unable to get past A. I finally broke out the dart just hoping to get kicked.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:44

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

Cannot Find Server posted:

It'd be nicer if you could C4 the supports in Davamand and just destroy the whole mountain and the control point within, forcing players to run over the mountain to the 2 remaining points. Or do the same at Metro and leave just the one point outside for the teams to fight over.

Please make this kind of poo poo happen in BF4, DICE.

I love the idea of an adaptive playing field, and Rush sort of gets at that. But yeah, it'd be nice to suddenly have to change your tactics due to someone's specific action.

Stuff like the giant tower on Caspian, for example. If you could bring that down at will (or maybe at will, after a certain point in the match), and have it fall to where certain sections cut off some prominent routes to A, it'd at least make that map much more interesting.

# ? May 1, 2012 18:49

TheGreatGildersneeze: Feb 24, 2001; Ask me about the list of rules you need to agree to before joining my Xbox live games with me and my virtual friends.

Scarf posted:

I love the idea of an adaptive playing field, and Rush sort of gets at that. But yeah, it'd be nice to suddenly have to change your tactics due to someone's specific action.

Stuff like the giant tower on Caspian, for example. If you could bring that down at will (or maybe at will, after a certain point in the match), and have it fall to where certain sections cut off some prominent routes to A, it'd at least make that map much more interesting.

Crash a couple airplanes into it; it'll come down. Dunno if it'd change the playing field, but you can at least take it down at will (in a sense).

Edit: I understand what you're getting at, of course: scripted, permanent debris. Cool idea if you ask me!

Edit again: What'd be super neat is if there were a few randomized scriptings for it so some rounds on CB played out differently. One time it falls and blocks the central road to A, another time the very top of it comes down on one of the hill routes to C, another time it could fall to the right or left of A and create infantry cover but make vehicles have a harder time getting across the open fields. Dynamic!

TheGreatGildersneeze fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 19:18

# ? May 1, 2012 19:12

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

Crash a couple airplanes into it; it'll come down. Dunno if it'd change the playing field, but you can at least take it down at will (in a sense).

I thought it was still a set event, and has been since Karkand dropped. The tower comes down when one team reaches something like 11 tickets remaining. Which, at that point, any impact it has on the flow of the game from point-to-point is negligible.

I don't remember seeing anything in the patch notes about that changing to an at-will destruction.

# ? May 1, 2012 19:14

TheGreatGildersneeze: Feb 24, 2001; Ask me about the list of rules you need to agree to before joining my Xbox live games with me and my virtual friends.

Scarf posted:

I thought it was still a set event, and has been since Karkand dropped. The tower comes down when one team reaches something like 11 tickets remaining. Which, at that point, any impact it has on the flow of the game from point-to-point is negligible.

I don't remember seeing anything in the patch notes about that changing to an at-will destruction.

Apparently I was ~~told otherwise by people who don't know what they're talking about~~ lied to by malicious bastards who will pay the price!

# ? May 1, 2012 19:19

Someguy: Jul 15, 2001

Finally figured out how to use the F35 and now I'm all over that poo poo

# ? May 1, 2012 19:34

Smelly: May 6, 2005; friendship is magic

Someguy posted:

Finally figured out how to use the F35 and now I'm all over that poo poo

I thought everyone knew how to use the F35?

Fly over a point and jump out.

# ? May 1, 2012 19:36

Beelzebozo: Nov 6, 2002; Thwunk!

Smelly posted:

I thought everyone knew how to use the F35?

Fly over a point and jump out.

# ? May 1, 2012 19:57

StevoMcQueen: Dec 29, 2007

Cannot Find Server posted:

Or do the same at Metro and leave just the one point outside for the teams to fight over.

Suggested the exact same thing just now while playing with Flex and Muckswirl. C4 the supports, collapse the metro itself.

# ? May 1, 2012 20:35

Oppenheimer: Dec 26, 2011

Haha million dollar fantasy camp that's the kind of ironic description all servers should have.

Pope we need a server message like that gentleman club

Oppenheimer fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 23:06

# ? May 1, 2012 22:06

Raskolnikov2089: Nov 3, 2006; Schizzy to the matic

Smelly posted:

"Gotta get them sweet kills, brah."

Most pubbies don't even notice that there are flags.

The stupid, it just hurts. They didn't even have to try to cap the flag. Hell I wasn't in cap range because I didn't want to tip the team off that I was there until everyone spawned in. All they had to do was spawn on me and go kill enemies who have their backs turned to them.

# ? May 1, 2012 22:26

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

I actually got repairs today. Life is good.

# ? May 1, 2012 22:57

V for Vegans: Jan 30, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBp4...&feature=g-vrec

so I have an idea for an event we can try tonight

# ? May 2, 2012 00:18

Someguy: Jul 15, 2001

definitely need to do a road rash style event

# ? May 2, 2012 00:23

Oppenheimer: Dec 26, 2011

Set up a jeep gauntlet 2 c4 on each jeep and has to drive through a road wth mortars covering it on each side.

# ? May 2, 2012 00:28

tehinternet: Feb 14, 2005; STINGERS 4 LYFE

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

I really hate stupid teammates.

We're down by 200 tickets, but holding A & B on Metro. I manage to sneak to C. I hunker down and wait for my squad to spawn on me since no one else is able to get past the choke at B.

I wait for 40 tickets. My squadmates die numerous times, never spawn on me. Fine, I switch to another squad. Same thing happens, no one spawns on the guy in perfect position to 3 cap with a little help.

Switch to another squad. Still no one spawns in on me. At this point I've been waiting for almost 100 tickets for someone to realize that they don't have to keep dying at the B choke point and can spawn behind enemy lines.

After switching between squads repeatedly 2-3 times, I finally give up, roll up on the bad guys from behind and wipe out 2 squads before they take me down.

What the hell is wrong with people that they want to keep running into a meatgrinder instead of taking an obvious opportunity to outflank and ream the enemy team?

You were in the wrong. If you're down, you don't push to triple cap on Metro; holding A and B is a perfect position to bleed them out. It takes a lot more teamwork to spawntrap for twenty minutes than it does for 12 guys to watch three points of entry (to Bravo).

Your Pubbies were doing the right thing. Sorry. Man, that hurt to say.

# ? May 2, 2012 00:36

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

If there's one thing Arnold knows, it's Metro strategy.

# ? May 2, 2012 00:51

Someguy: Jul 15, 2001

Set map - Metro > Goonstack > Equip Dart > Spawn Trap A > Profit

Really though I feel like the Dart has kind of siphoned off whatever strategy still existed in Metro. Most of the time it seems which ever team is more confident with the Dart easily takes whatever points they want, while the opposing team cowers behind whatever cover they can find eagerly waiting for the end.

Someguy fucked around with this message at May 2, 2012 around 01:15

# ? May 2, 2012 00:58

TheGreatGildersneeze: Feb 24, 2001; Ask me about the list of rules you need to agree to before joining my Xbox live games with me and my virtual friends.

Someguy posted:

Set map - Metro > Goonstack > Equip Dart > Spawn Trap A > Profit

Really though I feel like the Dart has kind of siphoned off whatever strategy still existed in Metro. Most of the time it seems which ever team is more confident with the Dart easily takes whatever points they want, while the opposing team cowers behind whatever cover they can find eagerly waiting for the end.

The previous strategy was "equip OP weapon, own all da scrubz". Only thing that really changed was the OP weapon.

# ? May 2, 2012 01:29

Oppenheimer: Dec 26, 2011

Haha goonstack. The teams stay static except for the ace squad which switches whenever its become a spawntrap or boring.

But please continue whining about balance that you watch "like a hawk".

# ? May 2, 2012 01:36

Someguy: Jul 15, 2001

Oppenheimer posted:

Haha goonstack. The teams stay static except for the ace squad which switches whenever its become a spawntrap or boring.

But please continue whining about balance that you watch "like a hawk".

Haha you seem upset, maybe when you learn to not be a ~~petulant child~~ lovely admin people will bother to stay in your games.

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

The previous strategy was "equip OP weapon, own all da scrubz". Only thing that really changed was the OP weapon.

True dat, I guess.

Someguy fucked around with this message at May 2, 2012 around 02:24

# ? May 2, 2012 01:42

tomapot: Apr 7, 2005; Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.

V for Vegans posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBp4...&feature=g-vrec

so I have an idea for an event we can try tonight

Reminds me of playing Joust on the bridge on Hastings in BF:BC2 Vietnam

# ? May 2, 2012 03:29

Popeadactyl: Jul 28, 2009; been to prison

Scarf posted:

(I really just wanted to post this so Drekins could see what I was talking about the other day)

I just laughed for 15 minutes straight

Oppenheimer posted:

Haha million dollar fantasy camp that's the kind of ironic description all servers should have.

Pope we need a server message like that gentleman club

I don't think it would be appropriate. We don't want to steal something as original as that. We would only soil the moral purity of such a club with our lewd activities and doing so would be an absolute travesty.

Popeadactyl fucked around with this message at May 2, 2012 around 03:36

# ? May 2, 2012 03:30

Stew Man Chew: Sep 14, 2008; Permission to treat the witness as hostile?

Dear Concrete:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK5B0T1cs0E

# ? May 2, 2012 03:34

Scarf: Jun 23, 2005; Hello.

Popeadactyl posted:

I just laughed for 15 minutes straight

Yeah, I kept busting up laughing trying to explain the image to him. And I'm not sure why.

# ? May 2, 2012 03:35

.TakaM: Oct 30, 2007

does anyone know if you still get the hipfire buff when you turn the laser sight off?

# ? May 2, 2012 03:45

tehinternet: Feb 14, 2005; STINGERS 4 LYFE

^^ No. Look at your reticle when you switch it on and off.

Someguy posted:

Set map - Metro > Goonstack > Equip Dart > Spawn Trap A > Profit

Really though I feel like the Dart has kind of siphoned off whatever strategy still existed in Metro. Most of the time it seems which ever team is more confident with the Dart easily takes whatever points they want, while the opposing team cowers behind whatever cover they can find eagerly waiting for the end.

Whatever team?

Team?

I am the team.

Dart4lyfe

# ? May 2, 2012 03:46

Someguy: Jul 15, 2001

tehinternet posted:

^^ No. Look at your reticle when you switch it on and off.

Whatever team?

Team?

I am the team.

Dart4lyfe

You are probably too good with that, which is what I mean when I say whoever is most comfortable with the dart wins, your team usually wins

# ? May 2, 2012 03:54

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Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

Good is a relative term when talking about the dart.

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