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Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



Yeah XBOX might get points for soflam'd targets taking a javelin in the poop but PS3 definitely does not, at least not every time. The SOFLAM is godawful for the dude doing the flamming.

Also, I have commissioned an LTA-themed art. BFBC2: The Musical will be retired into the annals of glory.

Stew Man Chew fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 06:46

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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


Seriously. My suggestion if you want to SOFLAM is to just use the vehicle perks that do it. All helicopters can paint targets and the CITV station in the heavy tanks can. You're not trapped in a painfully narrow field of view this way, either. Keep in mind that doing it will almost always result in nothing happening anyway, but it's still better than a SOFLAM.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

Just wanted to chime in that SpecEddie was bringing the Phantasm Floating Ball of Doom with a vengeance against me this afternoon.



I was away for a few weeks during the holidays and was trying to get my footing again. Somehow I managed to get a Squad Wipe Ribbon with one G53 magazine. It was like my bullets were made of cyanide and a regenerating magazine because they all kept coming and I still had more bullets. It was awesome.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


Can someone explain to me how splash damage works in this game because I'm really tired of hitting someone in the face with a rocket only for it to do literally zero damage and then have some other guy hit the ground 10 yards away and have it kill me instantly, but when I go to do the same thing nothing happens.

Also while I'm bitching I'm really loving sick of spawning the exact moment a tank fires at the location I'm going to spawn in, killing me and letting me watch everyone else have fun some more.

e: And is it just me or does the game not always draw all the enemy models? I swear sometimes I'll look and the only thing I see is the little red spot indicator.

Slayer1597
Nov 6, 2008

how about i just leave and never come back?, that cool with you guys


Dude, I just checked out my Humilation Kills stat!!! (Pwn) or whatever and it is really high.

162 Humiliating Kills makes me feel like a goddamn Hero!

Someguy00 has the most though kinda put me to horrible shame.

Slayer1597 fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 09:18

l Sage l
Feb 20, 2006
King of the jackasses

Speaking of shame...
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf...12/2/183180267/
I feel kinda bad about what bringer and I did to this team. Just another reason to never let them have your Little Bird.

l Sage l fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 09:55

Sistergodiva
Jan 3, 2006

I'm like you,
I have no shame.


I put some c4 in the 3 floor balcony kinda at a or c in Bazaar. Died and blew it up hoping to get someone, got 5. Felt pretty badass.

I wonder what the next expansion will be. any info out at all on it?

Also, keep up the good work Beelzebozo!

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

bringer posted:

Tips to not stinking at BF:
-If you are recon hit start and go to the menu option marked suicide. Press A/X and come back as a useful class that can get points.

Alternatively forget that rifle you occasionally fire from halfway across the map and hit gently caress all with, grab a shotgun and motion sensor, then get up in there and kill dudes on the flags/MCOM's. Fantastic combination for killing those jerks who like to hide in buildings or do laps of alleyways in Karkand.

Don't forget to stick your beacon just around the corner so you can surprise whatever jerk typically catches you while reloading with a quick comeback.

limited fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 12:53

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


yellowcar posted:

Fun times tonight. Except for that one round of Metro. I whored the USAS+frag because jesus christ everyone decided to use that during that round.

e: Beelze, that is the best header ever.

Your pal Mr.Bond made that header. I quite like it as well.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

You think you can outrun my knives?



Monolith. posted:

Flashlights still blind the poo poo out of you despite supposedly being fixed post patch. The beta glitches have been eliminated. Now for them to actually nerf the USAS frag rounds like they were supposed to.
To be fair, that's what flashlights are intended to do. I had a surefire M3 taclite and it was like having a reusable flashbang without the ear ringing boom.

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


Why is it, When I hear that DICE is nerfing something I need to loving whore the poo poo out of it..

USAS+Frag ... I love you.. but before that it was the INVR on everything.. and next its the foregrip.


Which is the dumbest nerf so far. Still want to travel the 5 hours to dice's HQ in Sweden and punch their collective dicks for breaking this game so repeatedly.

Conquest is broken
INVR was nerfed waaaaaaay to far
Foregrip is about to become retardedly dumb
Server browser is a ghost-town most of the time since dice's dedicated servers are missing right now
Stingers are useless (anti-air is dead)
Recon still doesn't give passive spot bonuses for the T-UGS making Recon the slowest class to grind.
24 players ISNT enough, 32 would be a major improvement.. Microsoft!

There's a lot more dumb things in this game that need to be fixed. But for me, i think something that can be fixed without a patch like, More Dedicated servers, and gently caress off that new conquest mode everyone hates. Also split up the servers so theres three choices with map rotations "BF3 Maps only" "Karkand Maps Only" and "All Maps"

I love playing this game, but only because of the fantastic goons we play with.

That and Arnold's impersionations

ydaetskcoR
Apr 29, 2008


Mr Man posted:

There's a lot more dumb things in this game that need to be fixed. But for me, i think something that can be fixed without a patch like, More Dedicated servers, and gently caress off that new conquest mode everyone hates. Also split up the servers so theres three choices with map rotations "BF3 Maps only" "Karkand Maps Only" and "All Maps"

There are servers like this, I was playing a rush server last night that swapped between vanilla and B2K maps.

Mr Man
Mar 4, 2003

For you the day Duke graced your club was the most important day of your life but for me, it was Tuesday


ydaetskcoR posted:

There are servers like this, I was playing a rush server last night that swapped between vanilla and B2K maps.

I should have elaborated, an easier way to filter these servers.. I know im in the minority but the B2K servers SUUUUUUUUUUCK with 24players...

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

Wow. I like how the ending screen shows you supposedly unlocking a weapon tag on the first service star, but it's actually five stars.

Also I somehow have 109% accuracy with the pump action.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Awesome power!


You unlock a tag at service star 1 and 5. The one at 1 is a normal tag and the one at 5 is an advanced tag.

ydaetskcoR
Apr 29, 2008


There's 2 tags, one is a left tag at 1 service star and the other is a right tag (with a tally of kills with that weapon) at 5 service stars.

I've noticed lately that at the start of a round I always spawn in specific spots. Like on Wake Island CQ I always start at B with the intention of nabbing the Tunguska but I always spawn next to the jeep/car thing near the T90. On Rush defenders I always spawn at the foremost point (ahead of absolutely everyone else on my team) and nowhere near the Tunguska there either.

That's the only one that comes to mind but I always spawn in exactly the same spot every time and I'm not entirely sure why or if it's just really unlucky (in this case) randomness.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

How about a twist of I gouge your fucking eyes out?

Several random things:

1. I will boot inactives from LTA today.

2. I picked up a set of FPS Freeks on a whim, and while they do improve aim, and the general shootery bits of the game, I cannot use them. I got too used to sliding my thumb to hit select and the dpad while still running, and I cannot do that with the extenders on, and not moving while spotting is awful.

3. Beez: I may have some time to actually work on my stuff for battlefieldgoons this weekend!

Danthrax
Jul 11, 2006
The Jews invented and successfully promoted Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong


a shameful boehner posted:

I need a good consistent gunner, and I will keep us flying for days, especially if you have flares.

I'll be your gunner, and since I like you I'll even swap out my beloved zoom optics for flares. I want more air warfare ribbons and I rarely get a pilot who lives long enough to let me get a lock with the guided missile.

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

Permission to treat the witness as hostile?



limited posted:

Wow. I like how the ending screen shows you supposedly unlocking a weapon tag on the first service star, but it's actually five stars.

Also I somehow have 109% accuracy with the pump action.

This is because each shotgun pellet is treated as its own "hit" but you only shoot once. Back in BC2 there were people rocking 200-300% accuracy haha.

Scob
Jul 17, 2005



Lumpy posted:

Several random things:

1. I will boot inactives from LTA today.


Why? Battlelog is basically useless for console user clans and makes no difference to your gaming experience.

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


Lumpy posted:

3. Beez: I may have some time to actually work on my stuff for battlefieldgoons this weekend!

No worries, dude. Me too. I have a few open tickets that I've been dragging my heels on, but work has slowed a bit so I can get back to those and fleshing out the OP with nube strats.

Scarf
Jun 23, 2005

Hello.


I can't remember the last time we've stolen so many enemy vehicles in one evening. It was almost one for every single match. And a few of the other teams were actually putting up a good fight until one person on their team decides to bail from a flaming vehicle to save their own skin.


Note to all new players: If you're in a vehicle alone, without an engineer to repair you, and you're about to blow up, surrounded by enemies... Just take the hit and make them destroy the vehicle. If they manage to repair it and steal it, it won't spawn for you again until it's destroyed. And this is CRITICAL on certain Rush maps where you REALLY need your tanks/choppers.

Big Grunty Secret
Aug 28, 2007

Just one question, though. Is there a way to take off my pants?

I recently started playing bf3 again, albeit without a microphone because I am a dum dum who left the cable t school. However, I'm pretty good at taking orders and am a good sport at being put through the meat grinder when I'm on the other team. Had a good run last night with PTERROSAUR and GENOSIDUS REX, stealing tanks and carrier strafing. I added myself to battlefieldgoons.com and I'm usually floating around because I've been sick. Invite me!

GT- GruntKilla420

bringer
Oct 16, 2005

I'm out there Jerry and I'm LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT


Scarf posted:

Note to all new players: If you're in a vehicle alone, without an engineer to repair you, and you're about to blow up, surrounded by enemies... Just take the hit and make them destroy the vehicle. If they manage to repair it and steal it, it won't spawn for you again until it's destroyed. And this is CRITICAL on certain Rush maps where you REALLY need your tanks/choppers.

Oh god, this. This is the most important thing. The game Sage linked a few posts up on Noshahr Canals was just cruel. They bailed out of a disabled Little Bird right next to his Tunguska so he decided to fix it up and keep it, I hopped in the newly abandoned AA tank while Sage flew GruntKilla out to their carrier to steal their OTHER chopper.

They didn't make it to land after that.

Saints Crow
Aug 25, 2006

Johnny is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all bangers



Scarf posted:

I can't remember the last time we've stolen so many enemy vehicles in one evening. It was almost one for every single match. And a few of the other teams were actually putting up a good fight until one person on their team decides to bail from a flaming vehicle to save their own skin.


Note to all new players: If you're in a vehicle alone, without an engineer to repair you, and you're about to blow up, surrounded by enemies... Just take the hit and make them destroy the vehicle. If they manage to repair it and steal it, it won't spawn for you again until it's destroyed. And this is CRITICAL on certain Rush maps where you REALLY need your tanks/choppers.

In a five v five Caspian game I was involved in a long distance tank battle but kep losing due to him having high ground. So I left a pubbie in my tank as a decoy and snuck up on the enemy tank and utilized "drill that tank" strategy. Predictably he swung the gun around, then jumped out when he couldn't find me, so I stole it (I learned that tactic by falling for it). He blew it up, so I went mid range recon and killed him while he hoofed it to civilization.

That round was also my first tank v helicopter destruction.

GhostOfTiber
Dec 6, 2010


Oh god I just started with the USAS and it works with my sniper style of "put the mav on a building, kill everyone with guns" playstyle. I already have most of it unlocked and I've been using it for a day. Once the frag rounds came out it was sick, but then i slapped a 4x scope on there and it made me sad how inaccurate it was.

What's the most accurate shotgun for 8x + Frag love?

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

RBA Starblade posted:

Can someone explain to me how splash damage works in this game because I'm really tired of hitting someone in the face with a rocket only for it to do literally zero damage and then have some other guy hit the ground 10 yards away and have it kill me instantly, but when I go to do the same thing nothing happens.

Not pretending this is a realism game or anything, but the RPG is an anti-tank weapon so it isn't so hot at anti-personnel. TFR can correct me I'm sure.

From what I can gather, the blast radius of the RPG is smallish and non-lethal in a single shot. Might kill if they're wounded. A direct hit may or may not be a direct hit and isn't guaranteed to be a kill but I'd chalk most of them up to being "misses but super close splash damage".

As far as being on the receiving end many times, the M203 grenade launcher is a hell of a lot more effective anti-personnel than the RPG in terms of splash damage (as it should be, in order to differentiate them). Even considering "I shouldn't be alive moments", those only happen with RPGs and not M203s, where if I'm fairly sure they actually hit me, I'm dead.

In short, I don't think the rockets in this game aren't the free kill they are in most games. It's a gamble although repeatedly hitting a populated location can net you kills on wounded people (like firing on B in Grand Bazaar).

Critical
Aug 22, 2007

I would never tell you anything that wasn't absolutely true
that didn't come right from His
mouth and He wants me to tell you


Lumpy posted:

Several random things:

2. I picked up a set of FPS Freeks on a whim, and while they do improve aim, and the general shootery bits of the game, I cannot use them. I got too used to sliding my thumb to hit select and the dpad while still running, and I cannot do that with the extenders on, and not moving while spotting is awful.


Only use one on the right stick. Using one on the left stick is unwieldy and a pain in the rear end.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


quote:

From what I can gather, the blast radius of the RPG is smallish and non-lethal in a single shot. Might kill if they're wounded. A direct hit may or may not be a direct hit and isn't guaranteed to be a kill but I'd chalk most of them up to being "misses but super close splash damage".

I see, so it's mostly bad luck on my end that they kill me with a rpg but I'm not killing them with mine, and I shouldn't even be trying to in the first place?

Is the MBT's main cannon the same way, anti-vehicle only? I've been having similar trouble with that. I'm just trying to work some of this out because while I get a lot of points and end up in the top half of players in the match, I still end up barely killing (or even harming, if that number over the guy who killed me is any indication) anyone outside of a vehicle. Though it's also weird going 2 kills, 11 deaths one match and being in the top three for the game.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 19:44

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

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RBA Starblade posted:

I see, so it's mostly bad luck on my end that they kill me with a rpg but I'm not killing them with mine, and I shouldn't even be trying to in the first place?

Is the MBT's main cannon the same way, anti-vehicle only? I've been having similar trouble with that. I'm just trying to work some of this out because while I get a lot of points and end up in the top half of players in the match, I still end up barely killing (or even harming, if that number over the guy who killed me is any indication) anyone outside of a vehicle. Though it's also weird going 2 kills, 11 deaths one match and being in the top three for the game.

MBT cannon is more reliable than RPG, but the way the physics engine seems to work makes environmental kills a lot more difficult in BF3. Blast radius is much smaller and it doesn't seem to go "up" or "down" (so like, the guy standing above or below the shot on a hill) as well as it does in some other games. It also doesn't "go through" destructible environment with any sort of reliability.

RPGs are loving terrible, you may as well use a sniper rifle for killin dudes. Also for killin tanks. Because C4 suicide is much more effective.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

Edit: ^ ^ ^
For RPG vs tank, I'm just starting to internalize and remember to use this, but the angle of impact makes a huge swing in damage for RPGs. The difference between hitting at a 90° angle and 45° on the side or the back is a 70% damage increase. I'm starting to feel like more of a threat to tanks but it requires patience and sneaky time to get in a position to get a good angle.
http://symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=vehicles

RBA Starblade posted:

I see, so it's mostly bad luck on my end that they kill me with a rpg but I'm not killing them with mine, and I shouldn't even be trying to in the first place?

Is the MBT's main cannon the same way, anti-vehicle only? I've been having similar trouble with that. I'm just trying to work some of this out because while I get a lot of points and end up in the top half of players in the match, I still end up barely killing (or even harming, if that number over the guy who killed me is any indication) anyone outside of a vehicle. Though it's also weird going 2 kills, 11 deaths one match and being in the top three for the game.

In my opinion, an engineer's gun is always better to equip against people unless they're behind cover and then the RPG is often very effective because crumbling walls and the basic debris seems to net some kills sometimes (plus, they're in the open now).

The tank cannon rounds are explicitly labeled as HEAT rounds so I'm guessing they use nearly identical mechanics, which are going to lead to inconsistent results against infantry.

With tanks, I always use the hull MG if I'm anticipating infantry because I can't be sure I'll get the kill on the little guy with the cannon. But switching up to the cannon after a burst can work extremely well because they will be wounded and the blast damage can nudge them over to death.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 20:06

Stew Man Chew
Sep 14, 2008

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Also Canister Shot. Canister Shot is the business. You can basically switch back and forth between Can / 120mm and pop off a shot every 1.5-2 seconds.

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002


RBA Starblade posted:

Though it's also weird going 2 kills, 11 deaths one match and being in the top three for the game.

Duder, this is why we all love this game.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!


Do we have any time frame at all for when the next patch will be hitting consoles?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Gone to outer space
to shoot that dickbag in his face


Mega Comrade posted:

Do we have any time frame at all for when the next patch will be hitting consoles?

Not drat thing other than a "we're working on it".

CrackerCrucifix
May 14, 2007


yellowcar posted:

Not drat thing other than a "we're working on it".

I keep saying we won't see it until the next DLC. That seems like their typically patch release schedule.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

CrackerCrucifix posted:

I keep saying we won't see it until the next DLC. That seems like their typically patch release schedule.

Makes sense to send one big package for certification instead of two packages.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


Stew Man Chew posted:

Also Canister Shot. Canister Shot is the business. You can basically switch back and forth between Can / 120mm and pop off a shot every 1.5-2 seconds.

I love the canister shell. It is the Best Thing. I find it the best choice for dealing with infantry, which is the most important thing.

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001



Oh my god we did it. We won five games of Squad DM.

Now to never play that ever again.

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GruntyThrst
Oct 9, 2007

*clang*


Chemmy posted:

Oh my god we did it. We won five games of Squad DM.

Now to never play that ever again.

But then you'll never get one of these babies!





it took 82 rounds oh god why do I hate myself

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