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Curse you TDM! Prior to my gameplay in tdm I use to get like a dozen ribbons each game. Thanks to TDM where you usually get like 3 or 4... my numbers!
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 16:36 |
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Seedge posted:Thanks Beezlebozo. I played Wed afternoon, Wed evening, and most of yesterday, GMT. I just found it odd they seemed to update every 4-5 days. The F35 is the worst vehicle in any game ever. It's supposed to be able to hover but the thing just drops like a loving rock as soon as I throttle down (I tend to be on really low throttle when flying aside from when I'm flying the gently caress away from or getting some distance for a strafing run on something). I don't know how the hell you're meant to do anything with it.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 16:45 |
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Seedge posted:I find it hilarious goons have more kills with the repair tool than the F35. I actually debate now: knife or tsst? This reminds me of one of my favorite stories from recently- I was working on the first engineer assignment, and all I needed was the repair tool kill. Was playing rush on Karkand, and we were moving up to the last set of MCOMs, when I saw some friendlies die and a red dot inside one of the train cars on the mini map- clearly a guy camping prone in there to slow down the attack. I was thinking about maybe trying to throw a grenade in there, but when I approached it... I could see his legs clipping out of the back of the wall. So I saunter up, pull out the repair tool and TSST his disembodied feet and get my new gun. I laughed so hard, I wonder if he figured out what happened.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 16:59 |
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Beelzebozo posted:Well I can't remember who even asked for this anymore (maybe a PS3 dude?), but I added a leaderboard for ribbons per game. There is also a new award, Most Decorated, up for grabs in the console war based on the aggregation of this figure. Currently the PS3krew has a 2% edge in this category. That's pretty cool. I remember there being a pins per game section on the BC2 stats site but it never occured to me that it was missing here. It's neat. Though considering the amount of goofing around I've been doing in the past couple days since it's updated me last, I think my reign at the top of this section is going to be short lived.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 17:35 |
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Seedge posted:I find it hilarious goons have more kills with the repair tool than the F35. Sibtiger posted:I was working on the first engineer assignment, and all I needed was the repair tool kill. weaaddar posted:Curse you TDM! Prior to my gameplay in tdm I use to get like a dozen ribbons each game. Thanks to TDM where you usually get like 3 or 4... my numbers! Right?   I stick to HC TDM usually if I play alone during off-hours, and it is wrecking my SPM and now this. During a long, well-matched game of Conquest you can rack up a dozen ribbons just on repairs alone. Manatee Cannon posted:That's pretty cool. I remember there being a pins per game section on the BC2 stats site but it never occured to me that it was missing here. Yeah, I considered it when I was porting the code over, but I ended up dumping it in favor of juicy new nuggets like killstreak, longest headshot, and vehicle destroys. But anyway, it's back now.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 17:50 |
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Okay, I realize it's a dead horse but I'm getting really loving fed up with going against teams composed almost entirely of USAS-12 frag round abusing motherfuckers. Fighting fire with fire isn't satisfying at all when you can't take two steps without getting rag dolled by frag spam. And yeah, I've got a decent amount of kills with it but I only break it out when I'm getting destroyed by it. I really enjoy the tight CQ battle oriented maps and more often than not they're almost impossible to play effectively. Nothing like spawning into an Metro match only to immediately have your entire team pushed back to spawn. Going up against one or two dudes with the gun is manageable but it seems like almost every chuckle gently caress is rocking it now. I'm sure they're real concerned about patching it too. loving  . My heart is just about out of this game at this point.Then they'll eventually release new DLC and suck me back in </end crybaby rant>
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 18:10 |
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Smelly posted:Thanks for taking the colors off of the console wars page. That was kinda painful for me to read. You are welcome! If anyone finds UI related issues on the stats site, feel free to PM me.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 18:13 |
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Beelzebozo posted:During a long, well-matched game of Conquest you can rack up a dozen ribbons just on repairs alone. Let's brag about the most ribbons we've ever gotten in one match! My most per match was 28 in a match on Seine Crossing. 6 carbine ribbons, 5 nemesis ribbons, 4 avenger ribbons, 2 combat efficiency, 3 flag defender. I think someone here said they had 50 or something ludicrous once, but I can't remember who it was.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 18:16 |
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Lumpy posted:You are welcome! If anyone finds UI related issues on the stats site, feel free to PM me. Lol yeah sorry about that. I'm colorblind. I knew Lumpy would come behind me and check in a reskin of that page. Anything on the site that looks like poo poo is because I tried to do it myself and he hasn't unfucked it yet. 
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 18:18 |
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With as many colorblind Goons that play this, we need to send out a mass of emails begging Dice to put colorblind mode in the console version. 
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 18:25 |
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Oh man, I just had one of those moments where I ran face to face with a tank out in the open on Canals. I basically gave up and started hopping back and forth on one foot and the dude wasted three or four rounds missing me completely. So, I started charging him and the tank missed me twice more before backing into the canal near C. I jumped in for C4 Suicide Dark Ops and we went down in a blaze of gory glory together.
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Cannot Find Server posted:Let's brag about the most ribbons we've ever gotten in one match! My most per match was 28 in a match on Seine Crossing. 6 carbine ribbons, 5 nemesis ribbons, 4 avenger ribbons, 2 combat efficiency, 3 flag defender. My personal goal is to rack up anti-explosive ribbons in one round. So far 12 is my record during one particularly stubborn Damavand conquest game. Somehow neither team could fly a chopper for poo poo, so lots of mines and claymores were being dumped in the tunnel. I am thoroughly disgusted there isn't a medal for them though.  StevoMcQueen posted:One of my pubbie squadmates spawns in the gunner seat, which usually lasts all of 20 seconds, since the chickenshits bail at the first lock on tone. It's because there's nothing to tell pubbies what each tone stands for. I had no idea until I saw on a youtube video that the rapid, chirp-type beeps means something is actually heading at you. The other side of the experience sucks too. When the loving pilot bails out.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 19:34 |
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Cannot Find Server posted:Let's brag about the most ribbons we've ever gotten in one match! My most per match was 28 in a match on Seine Crossing. 6 carbine ribbons, 5 nemesis ribbons, 4 avenger ribbons, 2 combat efficiency, 3 flag defender. Here's a recent-ish one of mine with 40 ribbons... http://bf3stats.com/stats_360/Lunch...ts#rep_27396500 1 Carbine Ribbon, 1 LMG, 1 Accuracy, 3 Nemesis, 1 MVP, 1 Ace Squad, 2 Squad Spawn, 3 Transport Warfare, 1 M-Com Attacker, 1 Rush Winner, 1 Rush, 1 Ressuply Efficiency, 4 Maintenance Efficieny....AAAAND 19 Anti-Explosives  
Lunchtray fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 21:27 |
| # ? Feb 16, 2012 19:41 |
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I didn't get hate mail. I got love mail! Playing on my own, grinding out attack chopper on Caspian Border. Twice I've ended up as gunner to useless pubbies, and both times our brief run has come to a halt with them clipping a tree/pylon and smashing us into the ground. Well, I wait for the havoc to spawn, and since no one joins me, decide to go it alone. One of my pubbie squadmates spawns in the gunner seat, which usually lasts all of 20 seconds, since the chickenshits bail at the first lock on tone. But this guy chills in the gunner seat, and we start tearing it up. Tanks, jeeps, choppers, even the jets at getting taken out. The tickets were 39 - 10 against us, and the team managed to not die long enough to drag it down to 9 - 1 before it ended. Ended up getting around 4k in chopper points, which ain't too shabby considering I usually luck out around 1k if I'm lucky. He quits next round, and then I get a message: "Yeaaaaah !! you are very good pilot =D thanx <3" Replied that there's plenty better, but thanks. It's just a shame that awesome pubbies are such a rarity.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 19:48 |
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StevoMcQueen posted:I didn't get hate mail. I fully agree. I was fuckin around the other day and got in almost the exact same scenario. It was the start of the match for me and I got in the pilot seat with some pubbie gunner on Caspian Border, didn't last for very long, but by the time we'd died and I respawned I checked the scoreboard and he'd racked up 17 kills. I think I had something like 4. When I'm flying, I try to line the gunner up as much as possible as he doesn't have to worry about hitting things like buildings, poles and poo poo, so I try to focus more on staying alive than shooting things, though I will throw my rockets at any target I can while doing a strafing run. But after the match I got a message with a simple "Nice Flyin!!". Which considering I only consider myself a fair to decent pilot meant a lot to me. I've found a few awesome pubbies that I actively try to play with when I can.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 20:26 |
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Sorry Manatee, Yossarian, pickle; my internet keeps going out, so I gave up.
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PSN ID: Steamshovel_Dan
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DehatstyTopinbout posted:Okay, I realize it's a dead horse but I'm getting really loving fed up with going against teams composed almost entirely of USAS-12 frag round abusing motherfuckers. Fighting fire with fire isn't satisfying at all when you can't take two steps without getting rag dolled by frag spam. And yeah, I've got a decent amount of kills with it but I only break it out when I'm getting destroyed by it. Honestly, the abuse of the FAMAS and the USAS-12 makes it virtually impossible to play CQ metro. Now that nearly every enjoyable human being who wants it has made it to level 44 there is nothing you can do against the drat thing. Any colonel will use either of these two guns, and anyone below that level will use the FAMAS or Jackhammer. In fact in general, I see these guns more and more and its just boring. You really can't compete against either of these guns with any other weapon. So you're stuck sitting in vehicles on other maps. The problem is that people have adopted the "If you don't use it you're a scrub" philosophy which is fine in 1v1 competitive fighting game scene, but in a team based fps just turns the game into a boring shitshow. Kids care way way too much about their k/d so they sit back and snipe or use an overpowered cannon of death. When they lose the match, they just sigh and say "hey, it's not my fault we lost! My team sucked, they didn't cap flags (I didn't help but who cares)" I play TDM now a lot more than CQ because kids play like vaginas in CQ. I use to be able to run around and flank and shotgun in seine and bazaar. Now kids all line up in the well known spots and spam frags everywhere. Claymores destroy flankability. It's boring. TDM is just faster paced and since the kids who play it are all mongoloids its easier for me to just flank and go on a good kill spree.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 21:47 |
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Golgozor posted:Sorry Manatee, Yossarian, pickle; my internet keeps going out, so I gave up. Yeah the next several games were not that great anyway as we sunk into a Karkand slump.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 21:49 |
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weaaddar posted:FAMAS and USAS complaining... Maybe I mostly play in some strange bizzaro BF3 world with my regular goon crew but I don't find we often come across large numbers of people only using the USAS (w or wo Frag rounds) and the FAMAS. I will agree that the USAS is pretty BS with/wo frag rounds and the speed at which it can kill in relatiation to an ambush or turning a corner and shooting first is broken. I'm sad at how terrible the SAGIA is in comparison... I want my BC2 SAGIA back. FAMAS is broken statistically but I have a better KPM with a few other guns that it is, at least for me, not that overly powered at least compared to the USAS.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 21:59 |
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Really, because like every match of xbox CQ metro will have like 6+ people using the drat USAS and maybe another 6 using the FAMAS. I don't think KPM is a very useful measurement. For instance, the M4a1 has some of my lowest KPM because when I play engineer I like to use it, and oftenly enough now most matches end about 3 minutes (that is we have all points and are spawn camping to waste time). So for the next 7 minutes I sit around jerking off firing pot shots at nothing. I suppose I could try to reduce the debilitating effect on my kpm of the gun by pulling out my torch... And yeah as far as shotguns go the USAS is king #1. With the 870 and the jackhammer tied for 2nd place. The dao-12 and saiga are about equal at a distant 3rd and the m1014 is 4th as its a steaming pile of poo poo. weaaddar fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:08 |
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weaaddar posted:Kids care way way too much about their k/d so they sit back and snipe or use an overpowered cannon of death. When they lose the match, they just sigh and say "hey, it's not my fault we lost! My team sucked, they didn't cap flags (I didn't help but who cares)" They are providing valuable overwatch so their buddies can move up and clear the objective safely. It's called tactics; look into it. edit: Oh hey, are any of you dudes located in the Boulder, CO area? I'll be out there for work the week of March 5th. PM me if you wanna buy me a scotch. 
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:11 |
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A lot of stats aren't very useful measurements since most can be gamed easily, but KPM isn't one of them. You either kill a lot of dudes quickly or you don't, whether in a vehicle or with a gun, the only real way to game this stat is to be a lovely booster and have someone stand around while you shoot them. Which reminds me I'm still waiting for my KPM stat to be included on the site somehow, Beelzebozooooo make it happen!
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:11 |
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weaaddar posted:Really, because like every match of xbox CQ metro will have like 6+ people using the drat USAS and maybe another 6 using the FAMAS. I donno maybe it's a time of day thing where the huge USAS abusers are kids before bedtime? I don't know if KPM is the best measurement but it sorta fits for me. My higher kill weapons that I use more often (and have found the most effective for me to kill dudes) are the ones with the highest KPM. The M1014 shotgun is incredibly bad.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:12 |
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You can just not be bothered to try, too. Or you could play a lot of the big, empty maps where there's just not enough people to go around. Your kills per minute isn't a useful measurement by itself either. Deathmatch skills aren't all that makes a player good unless you're playing deathmatch. I also find it a little funny that people play the Call of Duty pandering TDM game type and still find fault with the game being "too much like CoD" at the same time. Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:17 |
| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:14 |
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Someguy posted:A lot of stats aren't very useful measurements since most can be gamed easily, but KPM isn't one of them. You either kill a lot of dudes quickly or you don't, whether in a vehicle or with a gun, the only real way to game this stat is to be a lovely booster and have someone stand around while you shoot them. There is no stat that does not skew and therefore cannot be gamed. KPM favors MBT whores and TDM players over guys like willshark who sneak around flanking and recapping flags over and over in Conquest. I'll think about incorporating it into the site somehow, but it's no better, alone, than any other one statistic. The whole idea behind this site was that you have to look at more than one dimension to compare players.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:16 |
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DiverTwig posted:Chopper talk Manatee would rather fly a Kasatka/Venom than be my reliable gunner. 
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:18 |
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Kuhmondo posted:Manatee would rather fly a Kasatka/Venom than be my reliable gunner. The canasta is the best helicopter. The best.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:20 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:You can just not be bothered to try, too. Or you could play a lot of the big, empty maps where there's just not enough people to go around. Also since something like 'trying' isn't actually quantifiable I don't see the reason to keep bringing it up (unless you're a PS3er who genuinely believes they try less then Xboxers lols).
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:21 |
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Speaking of heli whore those two guys I shot down on karg like 3 times yesterday camped the gently caress out of the helicopter spawn and pretty much turned that whole drat match around. Went from being fun to getting killed by the helicopter as soon as I spawned on a teammate. drat you helicopter whores I just wanted to screw around!
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:24 |
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weaaddar posted:. Thats what I'm saying. My goon crew runs around basically making GBS threads on everything for a few minutes and then it's ten minutes of jerking off waiting outside of their spawn for a kill. It's making it difficult to get my SPM up on top of being boring as poo poo. I DID have a lot of fun flying a full Venom around with Grunty capping points like nobody's business so there's that at least. tehinternet fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:27 |
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Beelzebozo posted:There is no stat that does not skew and therefore cannot be gamed. KPM favors MBT whores and TDM players over guys like willshark who sneak around flanking and recapping flags over and over in Conquest. I'll think about incorporating it into the site somehow, but it's no better, alone, than any other one statistic. The whole idea behind this site was that you have to look at more than one dimension to compare players. KPM is an individual stat that registers for each vehicle and gun, so it doesn't 'favor' anything. You are either good enough with a tank to get achieve 1.5 KPM, or you aren't. Same with any other gun or vehicle in the game. Edit: for guns I suppose it could skew for TDM players, but honestly you still have to get the killing done on your end right? I'm not interested in seeing an all inclusive KPM stat that averages it for everything, but rather the stat included to the weapons/vehicle page when you are viewing your kill count. Someguy fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:28 |
| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:25 |
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I like how you can filter down really far, Beelzebozo. I'm going to tell everyone I know that I have the most goon tags, on Goon Hooah, in rush, on the 360.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:28 |
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Someguy posted:I don't know what the point of bringing this up every time there is stats talk about, but I think it's safe to say everyone experiences these things (just loving around, playing big/half empty maps) so wouldn't it all even itself out in the end? The point is that there is a difference between the game types. The big maps are not the same on Rush as they are on Conquest. You have, at most, the distance between one flag and the spawn on any Rush map. Everyone is focused on a single, fairly small area regardless of the map they are playing on. Someone who plays Rush or SQ/TDM would naturally have a higher KPM rating than a Conquest player. I am not saying you're wrong to have it added to the leaderboard, because I could care less about that. I'm saying that you're wrong to believe you can't game it and that it is somehow a better indicator of general skill because it is not. And I know for a fact that I do not try as hard as you do.  I probably yell at the screen more, though.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:29 |
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Someguy posted:KPM is an individual stat that registers for each vehicle and gun, so it doesn't 'favor' anything. You are either good enough with a tank to get achieve 1.5 KPM, or you aren't. Same with any other gun or vehicle in the game. But what about when you're stuck in a spawn camping situation as we usually are? It's based upon how lovely your opposing pubs are and not really indicative of anything.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:30 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:I'm saying that you're wrong to believe you can't game it and that it is somehow a better indicator of general skill because it is not. quote:And I know for a fact that I do not try as hard as you do.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:36 |
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Dicking around and trying aren't the same thing.Someguy posted:
You kind of did. EDIT: When you called me MC I was baffled for a second before I realized you were abbreviating my name. I figured it out! 
Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:40 |
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KPM is going to favour Rush players but you will never see someone who plays Rush predominantly feature on the vehicle score per minute chart because Conquest throws 500 points at you for parking next to a flag.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:40 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:The point is that there is a difference between the game types. The big maps are not the same on Rush as they are on Conquest. You have, at most, the distance between one flag and the spawn on any Rush map. Everyone is focused on a single, fairly small area regardless of the map they are playing on. Someone who plays Rush or SQ/TDM would naturally have a higher KPM rating than a Conquest player. I am not saying you're wrong to have it added to the leaderboard, because I could care less about that. I'm saying that you're wrong to believe you can't game it and that it is somehow a better indicator of general skill because it is not. I play pretty much Conquest exclusively so I don't know how well the anti-KPM for a specific gun holds true. I'll need to look at someone's KPM on guns that is similar to my level who plays Rush more exclusively for a comparison. Also, saying you don't "Try hard" in the game is subjective. I mean you clearly must play very well as you have the 2nd highest SPM on our leaderboards and the 3rd most posts  . We all "dick" around in some sense of the word but really you likely are a fairly "serious" player to be able to achieve that. The only real way to do that well is to play the objectives, kill dudes, use vehicles to their potentials and play the game "properly" admidst jihad jeeping and dicking around and shooting the poo poo with your fellow goons.I think people are confusing "Try Hard" with a meaning that a person isn't having "Fun". That's not correct at all. I have alot of fun playing with Goons and I do very well but for the most part you'll find me playing "properly" and when the opportunity presents itself to grief or coordinate an amazing jihad jeep feat I'm there and ready to help and have a laugh. Lunchtray fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 22:47 |
| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:42 |
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I cap all of the flags. Literally all of them.
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| # ? Feb 16, 2012 22:46 |
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bringer posted:KPM is going to favour Rush players but you will never see someone who plays Rush predominantly feature on the vehicle score per minute chart because Conquest throws 500 points at you for parking next to a flag. This is true, also I'm about to jump on so bringer get on there so we can plaaay (warning: I will be trying quite hard to get my SPM up on par with MC  )
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