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Come to Korea. Work. Party. Travel like a mad fucker. My 2 weeks in Thailand are almost up and it's almost time for Hawaii Korea lets me take loving awesome vacations. (Also why is every Korean tourist from Seoul?)
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theinfamouszero posted:Yessir. A friend highly recommended them me, then we both found out how they do "business". I'm not sure how to handle the situation yet, I have 6 months left to the contract. Everyone I've talked to said it's clear cut illegal termination. Can you give me more info on problems and the termination? I work for an afterschool program as well so I need to know what possible poo poo might hit the hypothetical fan.
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MA-Horus posted:Come to Korea. Work. Party. Travel like a mad fucker. My 2 weeks in Thailand are almost up and it's almost time for Hawaii As I see it, it's most likely that Koreans from other cities: 1) Probably don't earn nearly as much as their counterparts in Seoul and can therefore afford to travel less, and/or 2) Don't think you'd know the name of whatever random city/town they're from, and just tell you they're from Seoul instead Also, I will be visiting from June 7th-26th for the first time since I left (September 2009) and am super excited. Actually, this will be partially pleasure and partially work-related, and if anyone in this thread works at a high school, a college counseling company, or test prep academy (specifically SAT and/or ACT), or knows someone who works at any of these places, please PM/email me (listentomelanie at gmail) and let me know as it will help me immensely!
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MA-Horus posted:(Also why is every Korean tourist from Seoul?) I dunno, every single Korean tourist I met in China was from Daegu. And half the white people were teachers in Korea.
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I've found that ESL teachers' in Korea vacation days tend to happen at the same time, there's so many of us, and we all want to get the gently caress out for a couple of weeks, so if you travel on those times you meet a ton of us. It's kinda funny actually. When you mention it in a hostel they're like, "oh another one."
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Cameron posted:Can you give me more info on problems and the termination? I work for an afterschool program as well so I need to know what possible poo poo might hit the hypothetical fan. Parents are the bane of the after school teacher. Their only feedback on your class is from a lying little poo poo who they will always believe over you.
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The Bible posted:Parents are the bane of the after school teacher. Their only feedback on your class is from a lying little poo poo who they will always believe over you. Yeah, like 'my son is very diligent and doesn't like the games at the end of class' which led to me being told to stop playing stupid games like hangman and scrabble which I duly ignored, gently caress you (John's) MOM. Couldn't imagine the poo poo Korean teachers probably have to put up with from every parent with an opinion. Public or death next time.
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Scrabble is a totally legitimate teaching tool and anyone who objects to it can go to hell. Excellent for vocab.
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Grand Fromage posted:Scrabble is a totally legitimate teaching tool and anyone who objects to it can go to hell. Excellent for vocab. Yeah, she's a retard by all accounts. That's pretty much all the bullshit I've had to deal with at this school, for which I am glad. e: By the by, in the spirit of dreaming of the future and pissing away the present, when should you start applying for public skool for Feb/March 2012? John Sheehy fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2012 around 13:13 |
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OK... It is a termination. Basically its a result of a clash of personality with my co-teach who threw me under the bus to the company. My termination is illegal since they gave me no documented warnings and they are refusing to put my termination in writing. It's so helpful having met lawyers. They've advised me that I'm technically entitled to the full contract worth a pay, but it's not likely I'd ever see that.
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Got my tentative schedule and textbooks for my new job starting up in a couple weeks. As of now I teach 21 classes a week (6 of those are at overtime pay), and I only teach 2 classes on Tuesday. Granted, I may have some classes canceled or added when it is all said and done, but as of right now I think it will be pretty good. I will get around 120,000 overtime a week, and still have time to work on my masters classes. Checked out my apartment I will be staying in while I am there during the week. It is a typical 1 room little studio apartment in a fairly new building. I was happy to see an aircon in it, and they just put a 32 inch LCD tv in there yesterday. The plastic is even still on it. They also hooked me up with skylife satellite tv which they will pay for, and I get my internet for free too. So I think it will do nicely during the week, but I will be glad to get back to my 3 bedroom apartment in Haeundae on the weekends and be with my wife and daughter. It's kind of fun having two apartments in Korea. Feel like a baller 
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John Sheehy posted:e: By the by, in the spirit of dreaming of the future and pissing away the present, when should you start applying for public skool for Feb/March 2012? Four or five months ago. If you actually mean 2013, I'd start getting the paperwork together in August or so. Especially if background checks in Ireland are as much of a clusterfuck as the US.
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Hooray!! after a whole bunch of fuckery aboutery in the last few months with documents and visas, I've finally signed a contract with a private school in the Gangnam district of Seoul. I was pretty fortunate this time round to have a recruiter who was actually helpful and did their job instead of insisting that I take interviews in schools in the middle of nowhere as "these were the only jobs available" (ie. I get paid more for placing you there) like the last one. If lurking this thread (and the tail end of the one before) has taught me one thing it's to expect everything to go wrong at every stage and plan accordingly. As such I've been emailing back and forth with a foreign teacher working there who has assured me that the school is a great place to work, that the management are fair and helpful and that the accommodation is nice, modern, of decent size and close by the school. So fingers crossed but I might have lucked out and picked a good one. I'm also having a go at learning the Hanguel alphabet which is actually surprisingly logical and straightforward. I've been considering a move for the last year as the job market here in Ireland stinks at present and doesn't look to be getting better any time soon. I have a buddy who has been out teaching in Dongtan for the last year and is a big fan of the place and who helped convince me to give Korea a go and actually make some use out of my English degree. My visa is getting processed by the Korean Visa office and the school will be booking my flights within the next week or so. I'm super excited to be heading out and look forward to bumping into some nice goons while I'm out there.
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Two unrelated things: What is this talk about the mistakes of dating a co-worker. Is there another Korean level of bad idea here or just the usual? Is there an office 'taboo' against it. Obviously a horrible idea with a Korean, but what about a foreigner? How do I go about finding a jimjilbang or other cheap place to crash near the Euljiro/Dongdaemun/City Hall area? I suppose anywhere in that part of Seoul would work. I really don't want to take that cab ride back.
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DontAskKant posted:Two unrelated things: Do not date a co-worker for the love of god. Not Because of your "Status", but because that women is going to make your life a living hell when things go bad. Move on. Don't poo poo where you eat.
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I'm trolling conservative homophobic Koreans on the Internet. Tell me about prominent gay Koreans / gay Korean stuff so that I have material that I can use to harass them with. It's very important.
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A friend of mine was chilling out in the hot water pool in a sauna. A middle-aged guy came up up to him and sat uncomfortably close. The guy asked him something like "계란 먹어?" (Do you eat eggs?) but his Korean isn't particularly good, so he could have misheard. Then the guy made a grab for his junk. When he later talked to a group of Korean guys about this, they were all like, "oh yeah, that'll happen sometimes."
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politicorific posted:She won breast implant(s)?
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The Gay Bean posted:A friend of mine was chilling out in the hot water pool in a sauna. A middle-aged guy came up up to him and sat uncomfortably close. The guy asked him something like "계란 먹어?" (Do you eat eggs?) but his Korean isn't particularly good, so he could have misheard. Then the guy made a grab for his junk. The Hamilton jjimjilbang in Itaewon is sort of infamous for this sort of thing
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A coworker has been trying to teach me Korean but we've reached a point where I'm having to start to learn grammar rules and he can't really communicate those details in English. Is there a good grammar primer out there? Ideally a website, but if someone could recommend a book I could gmarket up I'd be appreciative.
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terivinix posted:I have enjoyed it too, and nobody can drink like patent office workers (basically engineers with desk jobs). However, a minor faux pas at one of these can go a long way. Do you work at KIPS? I was supposed to interview there. Out of curiosity how is it? I might do it again another time if I ever get the chance. Grand Fromage posted:Four or five months ago. If you actually mean 2013, I'd start getting the paperwork together in August or so. Especially if background checks in Ireland are as much of a clusterfuck as the US. The Gardai in Ireland are brilliant for this. Will take about 2 weeks to get sorted and if you ever need copies again you can just call them up and they'll have it posted out to you within 5 days. One of the few things Ireland does right.
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nunchi posted:I'm trolling conservative homophobic Koreans on the Internet. Tell me about prominent gay Koreans / gay Korean stuff so that I have material that I can use to harass them with. How about this one. The actor 원빈, real name 김도진, is actually gay. Any Korean girl will immediately freak out about the idea of it, but it's true. A couple months ago, he got caught hanging out at a gay club in Itaewon with his then (maybe still current?) boyfriend, making out and such. News and rumors slowly trickled through the industry and the obvious thing for his agency to do is, of course, not say anything until his career slows down a bit rather than facing a backlash. I don't personally know the guy other than in passing, so it doesn't bother me to let you goons in on this piece of gossip (really is it that big of a deal?) so you can tell the Koreans you're trolling that, and let it be a slow ticking time bomb that'll blow their minds in a couple years when he formally comes out. There are quite few other really prominent gay stars and celebrities, but they're more in a position to have it ruin not just their careers but their lives if they came out, so I won't even touch on those. 원빈 is such a prissy pretty boy so I don't think people would be too surprised if he came out. You heard it here first.
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Brimmy posted:Do you work at KIPS? I was supposed to interview there. Out of curiosity how is it? I might do it again another time if I ever get the chance. Possibly. The one by Hongdae Station? At the time it was called KIPI but I heard they're having some issue with their name right now. It was a great work environment, politics aside. When did you apply?
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:L posted:How about this one. The actor 원빈, real name 김도진, is actually gay. Any Korean girl will immediately freak out about the idea of it, but it's true. A couple months ago, he got caught hanging out at a gay club in Itaewon with his then (maybe still current?) boyfriend, making out and such. News and rumors slowly trickled through the industry and the obvious thing for his agency to do is, of course, not say anything until his career slows down a bit rather than facing a backlash. I don't personally know the guy other than in passing, so it doesn't bother me to let you goons in on this piece of gossip (really is it that big of a deal?) so you can tell the Koreans you're trolling that, and let it be a slow ticking time bomb that'll blow their minds in a couple years when he formally comes out.  If you want to talk about gay Korean celebrities, it's all about Andre Kim. Come on, we all see it. This guy was like the Liberace of Korea. I'd once heard a rumour that many of Korea's male stars have risen to fame by granting him sexual favours. The person who told me seemed to suggest it included actors and singers, not just male models.
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MonkeyBrains posted:I was happy to see an aircon in it, and they just put a 32 inch LCD tv in there yesterday. The plastic is even still on it. Even 5-10 year old TVs will still have the plastic on them in Korea. They think it makes them seem newer or something, and that's Korea's M.O.
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nunchi posted:I'm trolling conservative homophobic Koreans on the Internet. Tell me about prominent gay Koreans / gay Korean stuff so that I have material that I can use to harass them with. edit: not for this particular subject, but just because there's so much old school, "we've always done it this way so it's right" thinking in Korea that I'd love to do stuff like this on the internet if I could.
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Inevitablelongshot posted:
Brimmy posted:The Gardai in Ireland are brilliant for this. Will take about 2 weeks to get sorted and if you ever need copies again you can just call them up and they'll have it posted out to you within 5 days. One of the few things Ireland does right. Gardai in Ireland are a bunch of idiots who don't know how to do anything right. It took me over a month to get mine and they didn't bother their arse to call me and rectify it.
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Thanks, TMZ.co.kr. Anyway, the Korean grammar book that I have used and like is Korean Grammar in Use by Ahn Jean-myung, Lee Kyung-ah, and Han Hoo-young. Its ISBN is 978-89-5995-198-7. It's pretty straightforward and easy to understand. e: I lived in Dongtan and it's a nice area but I was away from Byeongjeom station and felt like there weren't good bars to hang out in. Also, the lack of power cages in gyms was a source of annoyance for me. Arctic Baldwin fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 01:24 |
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nullscan posted:Jeebus, just had a friend post this on FB about his morning commute on a scooter every day over there. So much lane splitting/almost getting smushed... nunchi posted:I'm trolling conservative homophobic Koreans on the Internet. Tell me about prominent gay Koreans / gay Korean stuff so that I have material that I can use to harass them with. Speaking of better things to do with my time: Khanacademy.org ! Best use of my desk warming time I've ever found! Onion Knight posted:A coworker has been trying to teach me Korean but we've reached a point where I'm having to start to learn grammar rules and he can't really communicate those details in English. Is there a good grammar primer out there? Ideally a website, but if someone could recommend a book I could gmarket up I'd be appreciative. http://item.gmarket.co.kr/detailvie...rd=Korean+Alive It's put out by Keimyung University (Daegu) and has a lot of explicit grammar rule descriptions. What works best for me is just having someone give the correct/expected answers according to the lessons. This might be heresy or mind blowing to some, but I always learned best outside of class... which seems contrary to the system in place in this country. At this point I will only take Korean lessons from someone who has years of university experience of teaching Korean to foreigners or a masters or PHD in second language acquisition. It's not something amateurs can do.
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nunchi posted:I'm trolling conservative homophobic Koreans on the Internet. Tell me about prominent gay Koreans / gay Korean stuff so that I have material that I can use to harass them with. I don't know if doing this is such a great idea. Homophobia is very rampant here and annoying some conservative homophobic Koreans on the internet could end up just getting them pissed and cause them to treat gays or people they think may be gay even worse. I know several gay people (foreign and Korean) and have heard some awful stories. Gay Korean men already have it bad enough without these guys you are trying to troll getting upset and possibly lashing out harder on them. Just remember all Korean males have to go through military service, and it is defined in the military policies that it is appropriate to punish homosexuals. "Homosexuality within the army is thus subject to criminal punishment even when it is mutual as the stated crime does not require the complaint of the victim for indictment, according to the court." http://www.koreaherald.com/national...=20110331001070 I guess my point is please be careful with what you are doing. You need to change hearts and minds about this subject, not troll and harass. It might be funny to you, but if some gay kid gets beat down because these people your trolling react the wrong way (homophobs are the most intelligent and logical people) that is blood on your hands.
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My wife was pretty anti-gay when I met her. I wasn't aware of it for awhile, and when she mentioned it, I mentioned that one of our friends was gay and has been since long before she met him. She likes him well enough, and was pretty surprised, but after that, she pretty much turned around on the issue and views it now as a person's sexual orientation not being her business and generally not a big deal at all. So not everyone is a small minded bigot who has already decided what they are going to believe. There may be hope after all. 
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Hateful conservatives on the internet are the same in every culture. No matter what you do or say they will end up saying the korean equivalent of  liberals! There is no convincing some people.
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Ah, Korean homophobia. I still look back on my first encounter with Korean homosexuality with fondness. In my first month here, I met a random Korean guy in a PC방 in Suwon, and he took me to his favourite bar across the street. This was late 2003, right after the first openly gay Korean celebrity came out of the closet, but it was still easy for old men to claim there's no homosexuality in Korea. There was only one other table there, all guys, and he took me to a booth in a dark corner. I sat on one side and he squeezed in next to me. He had his hand on my shoulder, talking softly into my ear. I was starting to get a bit of a gay vibe out of him, the place, and the situation, of course. In a smooth voice he said "I heard in Canada, gay marriage is legal." I explained the situation to him, how my own province was more conservative and they were trying to hold out at the time. He leaned in closer and said "I think homosexuality is an abomination," and it turned out he was a Christian all along.
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Onion Knight posted:A coworker has been trying to teach me Korean but we've reached a point where I'm having to start to learn grammar rules and he can't really communicate those details in English. Is there a good grammar primer out there? Ideally a website, but if someone could recommend a book I could gmarket up I'd be appreciative. This website is good to learn how verbs work, if you already know hangul start with lesson three: http://www.learnkoreanlanguage.com/...-beginners.html That site also has a subject on particles but like most teaching materials I've come across it doesn't really explain the difference between 는/은 and 가/이. It just labels one as the "topic" particle and one was the "subject" particle. This site explains the difference, just ignore all the Jesus stuff: http://parksguide.blogspot.com.au/2...-particles.html
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For how homophobic Korean men can be, they consistently act pretty gay themselves. I think the average homophobic gay man would be called a queer and be teased for being gay quite often where I'm from.
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MonkeyBrains posted:For how homophobic Korean men can be, they consistently act pretty gay themselves. I think the average homophobic gay man would be called a queer and be teased for being gay quite often where I'm from. That is the most amusing thing about younger men here, especially their fashion. They're amazed when I tell them that, for example, K-Pop boy groups often dress and act in a way a particularly offensive stereotypical flaming gay guy would on a crappy US sitcom. Just go to Hongdae and even the regular guys are dressed like that. They're just that over the top about it.
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MonkeyBrains posted:For how homophobic Korean men can be, they consistently act pretty gay themselves. I think the average homophobic gay man would be called a queer and be teased for being gay quite often where I'm from. I think it's a good thing. Homophobia here is more of a macro thing, some vague societal evil, while in the West it's more persistently a micro problem, something that's lurking around every corner, or even in the person next to you. The fear of being labeled gay drives a lot of male behaviour, and I don't miss it. Incidentally, in Japan they consider bodybuilders to be the most flamingly homosexual people in the world, because anyone with such an obsession with the male body and masculinity must obviously be totally gay. So while we look at Liberace and see a flaming homosexual, the Japanese might look at Arnold Schwartzenegger and see a flaming homosexual.
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Thanks guys, I'll probably end up picking up Korean Alive once I get paid. Lessons with my coworker have been going well enough and so hopefully with this book I can understand more clearly why I am completely wrong almost all the time. Also turns out my friend has been shafted with the world's worst co-teacher. She (my friend) mentioned months ago where her sister worked in the states and he (the co-teacher) paid the sister a surprise visit. When my friend e-mailed him to the tune of "that's weird please don't drop in on my family members unexpectedly at work" she got: quote:Strange, strange, black americans,,, Horrible (this isn't a 'Koreans are racist' post, it's a 'A Korean is racist' post) She sent this along to our advisor/supervisor in the MoE and is probably on the phone with him now. She asked me for advice but I'm not sure there's anything more she can do 
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Onion Knight posted:Thanks guys, I'll probably end up picking up Korean Alive once I get paid. Lessons with my coworker have been going well enough and so hopefully with this book I can understand more clearly why I am completely wrong almost all the time. That could have been lifted right out of a youtube comment. drat.
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Onion Knight posted:
For such lovely English she's really getting the 'seething horrid racist' part across perfectly! @Fromage: The Irish criminal check is going into a police station, meeting the superintendent who asks how your uncle is, how the football is going, how's the mother and be back in four days I'll have that ready for you. As long as you have some tenuous link to knowing a cop it's a week turnaround. (this is true of all Irish institutions). SqueakyDuck posted:Gardai in Ireland are a bunch of idiots who don't know how to do anything right. It took me over a month to get mine and they didn't bother their arse to call me and rectify it. gently caress da shades! John Sheehy fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2012 around 03:16 |
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