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There is no conceivable way that you, a foreign teacher, making noise about this will end well for literally any participant in this story. Bake them some cookies in solidarity and then shut the hell up.
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I was afraid of that. Oh well 
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Submit an anonymous tip to the labor board if you're feeling like stirring the pot.
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Welp because the Seoul government decided to divert funding from things like English/Science etc. to Free Lunches!!!! some public school NSET's wont get paid for another week. It is not a good time to be trying to get work as a public school teacher in this city.
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If people really can't summon the balls to make one anonymous complaint to the MOE then they deserve to be rough-ridden by their insane principal. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, give a Korean teacher some self-respect and you unravel the entire fabric of Korean society.
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terivinix posted:And Korea is the kind of place where "You look like Woody Allen" would be misconstrued as a compliment.
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Onion Knight posted:insanity I can't believe that's true. My coteachers and I have always been of the same mind - what the gently caress are we doing here, let's sneak out early! Is this an elementary, middle, or high school? There's no reason to keep people there. In fact it poses a health risk, teachers nodding off on the drive home, students not getting teachers who are fresh. There's a multitude of reasons why this is insane. The work culture here really blows my mind. No one has heard of Henry Ford's workplace studies? A company gets the same number of widgets in 5 days/40hours as it does in 6 days/60 hours. The extra time is a waste of money. If it is true, I do understand why these people are scared shitless. There are schools in Daegu that have such a bad reputation that teachers are posted for only 3 years instead of 5. Getting the principle pissed off may result in a hosed up permanent record or a posting to a school that would require moving or buying a car. Having a dickhead principle can result in huge bills. Also, this is the guy who approves vacation time and signs off on various applications - one of my co-teachers lucked out an will be studying English at the development office. Say goodbye to that and any foreign vacation and this is just scratching the surface. No wonder they just bend over. If I were in your place I would show some camaraderie and stick it out with all the other teachers one night. Document the whole thing. Record it from 8:30am to 10-1am. Borrow the school's camera! Then deliver it to the MOE and if that does nothing, send it to KBS or put it up online. This poo poo is bananas. Also as usual, bitter vet crew has lost all compassion for Koreans and their working conditions and believe that the Prime Directive states we shouldn't interfere ever. Well, gently caress that - they brought us into these schools. We aren't passive observers; we are the embodiment of red tape cutting scissors.
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Hey what am I looking for to find out if I have unlimited data? I have a bunch of texts from SK about my plan, and I think my data is unlimited but the guy at the store spoke just enough English to get it done but not enough that I'm confident we understood each other. Want to make sure before I run up a giant bill.
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Unlimited plans are about 55,000 a month from the vendors here, but you have to add on the fee for your phone if you did it that way. My iPhone 3Gs would have been about 80,000 a month with an unlimited plan and the 2 year payment plan. I'm still rocking the 45,000 won plan and I've never exceeded my monthly 500 MB.
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Okay, mine is 54 + the phone. If anyone knows the Korean word(s) I'd still like to assuage my paranoia by looking through the texts.
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politicorific posted:...REVOLUTION!... Do that and watch how quickly everyone in the school turns on you for attacking Korean culture.
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frozenpeas posted:Do that and watch how quickly everyone in the school turns on you for attacking Korean culture. Then say gently caress it, what do you have to lose? All public schools are going to poo poo in the next year. Be the poster child of a foreigner gorilla movement. Take it to the bbc, they would love to do an expose on a first world country forcing slave labor. Look at china! The only reason they arnt doing anything about their sweat shops is because they have clout.
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GZA Genius posted:Welp because the Seoul government decided to divert funding from things like English/Science etc. to Free Lunches!!!! some public school NSET's wont get paid for another week. It is not a good time to be trying to get work as a public school teacher in this city. Whats the source on that? There is nary a peep on the official SMOE facebook group or on Dave's/Waygook. I got paid today. What district are you in?
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politicorific posted:[...] I agree, this country needs a couple whistle blowers. There are schools (like mine) where the bosses don't pull this sort of poo poo. What's the point of labor laws if people are too concerned with bullshit power trips and petty intimidation to enforce them.
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Onion Knight posted:Nick Cage's wife is pretty hot but then again it's Nick Cage. If I was a waitress I probably wouldn't say no to Mr. Cage either. poo poo, if I was a waiter. You can't do a damned thing to help them. Welcome to Korea.
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THE LUMMOX posted:Whats the source on that? There is nary a peep on the official SMOE facebook group or on Dave's/Waygook. I'm in the Dobongsan district (east of Dongdaemun). My SMOE facebook group confirmed it (the Fall 2010 one). I had my CT call administration and they said they heard the same thing, but they were able to pay me on time. Some schools weren't as fortunate.
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Fromage, the word you're after is 무료한. At least on KT bills. Not sure about SK but I can't imagine them changing up the language just for the hell of it.
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GZA Genius posted:Then say gently caress it, what do you have to lose? All public schools are going to poo poo in the next year. Be the poster child of a foreigner gorilla movement. Guerilla movement. A gorilla movement would be fun to watch but more difficult enact. And yeah, let them fight their own battles. There is almost no way it ends up well if the 외국 is the instigator of anything e: Ha! I just caught my typo! Arctic Baldwin fucked around with this message at Mar 26, 2012 around 09:11 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Okay, mine is 54 + the phone. If anyone knows the Korean word(s) I'd still like to assuage my paranoia by looking through the texts. 3g or 4g? I have an unlimited 3g contract but havent been able to find that for 4g.
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BrainDance posted:3g or 4g? I have an unlimited 3g contract but havent been able to find that for 4g. 3. Not entirely sure what the difference is, I am still new to this. Edit: Is there laser tag in this country? Preferably in Busan or Daegu? Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2012 around 03:10 |
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Anyone know where or how to get fish oil here? Trying to get it for a friend who is leaving soon so gmart isn't an option.
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Toussaint Louverture posted:Anyone know where or how to get fish oil here? Trying to get it for a friend who is leaving soon so gmart isn't an option. I saw it at Homeplus yesterday, there's a vitamin section in with the soaps and toothpaste and whatnot.
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I posted my Kakao on the spreadsheet but never got an invite. Anyone for 'dgallaher', please?
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LoL, let's get ~team goon~ rank 1 on kr server. http://kr.leagueoflegends.com/Data/client.php slacjs is the name, see you at mlg slacjs fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2012 around 10:56 |
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I'm on LoL Korean Servers as "YUNODIE"
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Where should I be shopping for clothes (in Seoul)? Looking at you, aeglus...
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I dont remember my lol ID but I have a good guess at it. Ill bring my drunk rear end to a pc bang and join you guys. Just so you know I sneak soju into the local pc bang an black out mid game... Edit:nixpc has always been accommodating and found me a cab. They know whats going on, they dont care. BrainDance fucked around with this message at Mar 24, 2012 around 11:39 |
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cryptoclastic posted:Fromage, the word you're after is 무료한. At least on KT bills. Not sure about SK but I can't imagine them changing up the language just for the hell of it. "Unlimited data" is "무제한 데이터"
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Toussaint Louverture posted:Anyone know where or how to get fish oil here? Trying to get it for a friend who is leaving soon so gmart isn't an option. I bought a bottle at costo the other week, if you or someone you know has a card.
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superm0nk posted:I posted my Kakao on the spreadsheet but never got an invite. Anyone for 'dgallaher', please?
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TreFitty posted:Seconding this. I'm really very pleasant and everyone likes me. Promise. Your ID is not subject to search. Check your settings.
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THE LUMMOX posted:Your ID is not subject to search. Check your settings.
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New regulations for all expat teachers here, E or F visas!quote:Article 13-2 (the hiring of foreign instructors) The person who established or manages the hagwon must, when hiring a foreign instructor to be responsible for foreign language instruction, submit the each of the following documents and have them confirmed before hiring the instructor: My old recruiter cued me on to this, but no ones quite sure if they're requiring a fresh CBC, making it two unique CBC's, or just one background check copied.
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The current offer: working at another branch for crazy nightmare hagwon at less pay, possibly as the Head Instructor. Why am I even considering this? Tell me it is stupid easy to get work elsewhere, even in Seoul.
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It is stupid easy to get work elsewhere, even in Seoul.
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Does anybody here go to graduate school in Yonsei or any other university in Korea as a foreigner? I'd like to hear more about it if so.
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bobthedinosaur posted:Does anybody here go to graduate school in Yonsei or any other university in Korea as a foreigner? I'd like to hear more about it if so. Years ago there was a goon who tried it, but freaked out and ran away because it was very difficult (but also because they didn't want to live in Korea for the rest of their life.)
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bobthedinosaur posted:Does anybody here go to graduate school in Yonsei or any other university in Korea as a foreigner? I'd like to hear more about it if so. the important: -~7mil won/semester, but scholarships are plentiful -being a native speaker is a huge advantage -korean classes are offered, offsetting the price for the classes i'd be taking if I were here in korea doing something else. It's teachers from Yonsei's KLI, though, which is a bit ugh. -option for dual degree programs with schools in the US, Japan, China (?), Switzerland, and starting next year Kazakhstan and Israel = 2 graduate degrees from 2 universities, but you gotta spend 1 year in each country. - if you're eligible to work while here, most classes are done in 3 hour blocks once a week instead of spreading them out MWF or something similar - makes it much easier on commuters and people who want to go to class 2-3 days/week and work the other days. the superficial: -tons of school events (read: alcohol or free food at almost all of them) -prolly ~40% foreign, nearly 75% women -yon-ko-jeon wee! -professors vary from accent-less english to heavily accented but i've yet to run into an ohmygodwhataretheysaying moment. Again, being a native speaker helps here. edit: and to address the notion that it's hard, i've only just started but it's not bad at all. midterms/finals might change my mind? At any rate, 1 month in I'm satisfied. tismondo fucked around with this message at Mar 25, 2012 around 22:48 |
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I'm in a master's program, first semester, at Sogang. It's actually surprisingly pleasant. If you have anything specific questions I'm at hand I suppose.
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DontAskKant posted:The current offer: working at another branch for crazy nightmare hagwon at less pay, possibly as the Head Instructor. Why am I even considering this? Tell me it is stupid easy to get work elsewhere, even in Seoul. Oh, so they're offering you more work, and more responsibility, for less pay? If I wasn't doing FullRetard2012, I would have easily signed somewhere else. My buddy who's crashing on my couch right now finished up at his old job, got the letter of release, and is fixing to take a job in Seoul. It is stupid easy to get work elsewhere, even in Seoul.
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