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bairfanx posted:There was a time that this site housed a ton of great decks and players. They never post anymore and drat near everything there is garbage. Pretty much every clan forum is like that now, it seems. Like the mantis board when people tried telling the regulars that the free monkey was a good card.
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| # ¿ Jan 19, 2012 16:13 |
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| # ¿ May 24, 2013 13:49 |
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Mornacale posted:Right, but from a Magic perspective it's so weird to not see "well, I think Crane is the right call for the metagame right now" or "Crab is clearly the most consistent" as the reasons to play a particular clan. This isn't criticism, just to be clear, it's just something that's always struck me as really different from my experience. You do see that from the players that have a history of winning tournaments/placing well. It's usually constrained to private boards, though, as clan boards don't want to hear it. For example, I've won kotei while playing Dragon and Lion, and placed well with Crane, Scorpion, and Crab. (i used to be good at this game  )
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| # ¿ Jan 19, 2012 20:17 |
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bairfanx posted:Build your deck to beat the 8ish other factions and don't worry about it as much as you are. Also keep in mind that all of the dishonor players I know are complaining on facebook about how dishonor sucks and they aren't playing anymore and blah blah blah.
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| # ¿ Jan 24, 2012 21:34 |
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accordingtojosh posted:rules question. Yep. The only time the actual rules prevent moving to a battle is if your attacking personality has already been in a battle resolution that attack phase.
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| # ¿ Jan 25, 2012 19:22 |
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Are you the dude who was banned for a month due to bribery at the emerald championship or something? I don't really pay attention to bounties or whatever but when has there ever been a 5k bounty on something?
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| # ¿ Feb 8, 2012 20:25 |
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Colon V posted:I don't know, maybe? But those are the only real options. How does the official tournament structure work? Official tournament structure is almost always 45 minute rounds, one game per round. Elimination rounds can be either one game or best of 3, and the ones that go best of 3 get 90 minutes for 3 games. For that, the commonly used rule is "if in game one or three after 90 minutes, you have 15 additional minutes to finish the game. if time is up and you're in game two, whoever won game one wins the match."
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| # ¿ Feb 15, 2012 21:17 |
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Colon V posted:Ninety minutes? It took like four hours the game between Tao and I. Does the internet just take way longer, is it because of the decks, or am I just incredibly slow? Probably a combination of the three. You just started learning, right?
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| # ¿ Feb 16, 2012 00:50 |
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Valgaav posted:I should note that most of what I'm expecting to see is Crab and Scorpion, too. The experienced players were glad to see that there were newbies playing the 'worse clans' out there. On that note, why is it that Crab and Scorpion always gather such elitists? I've never met a lion fanboy who was so self-assured, or a mantis, or what have you. You haven't spent enough/any time on the l5r internet scene then. Every clan is full of whiny douchebags.
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| # ¿ Feb 22, 2012 00:02 |
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Valgaav posted:That's the thing, whiny I've come to accept. Whiny is normal for nerds. These guys aren't whiny, they're smug. No other clan is worth even half of theirs, and they'll let everybody who asks know it. The Crab players take the tack of 'nothing you do would matter if it weren't for us' and the Scorpion players take the tack of 'We're the only ones who TRULY care about the Empire'. Yeah, gently caress story nerds. I can't think of a player offhand (in the midwest tournament scene at least) who is 100% serious smug story nerd and also a decent player of the ccg.
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| # ¿ Feb 22, 2012 00:07 |
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Valgaav posted:That's why I'm curious if Military or Dishonour crane is an option. The more active win conditions are more 'honest' in their eyes, and therefore harder to argue against. Yes, crane has a scout stronghold that can run a passable military deck, I'm not sure about dishonor for crane this arc. I think in general crane is kind of in a bad place at EE base. accordingtojosh posted:My other 2 losses were games that went to time and were pretty close so we were forced to roll dice to see who gets the win or we would both take game losses. Seems pretty annoying as I was playing at a much faster pace than my opponents. Some people will take the double loss regardless of board state because neither player won in the time allotted, but most players will concede if they're obviously losing the game.
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| # ¿ Feb 22, 2012 17:28 |
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Dagon posted:The Iron Crane deck I tried was something like this: That's... not a good decklist. Threw this together quick. Hidden Falls Dojo Dynasty (40) Events (1) 1 The Emerald Championship Celestials (1) 1 Jurojin's Blessing (or shi-tien) Regions (1) 1 The Second City Holdings (16) 3 Ageless Shrine 3 Archery Range 1 Chugo Seido 3 Prosperous Village 3 Marketplace 1 Stolen Merchandise 1 Traveling Peddler 1 Temples of Gisei Toshi Personalities (21) 3 Daidoji Ebizo 3 Daidoji Masafuni 3 Daidoji Takichi 3 Daidoji Tametaka 1 Daidoji Yuki - exp 3 Doji Atsumichi 1 Daigotsu Hotako - exp3 1 Hiruma Akio - exp 3 Shinjo Kinto (or Jahan/Qalyar) Fate (40) Strategies (30) 3 Advance Warning (or Brawl/whatever battle action) 3 Burn the Towers 3 Seeking the Truth 3 Strategic Strike 3 The Trap is Sprung! 1 Creating Order 1 Peace 3 Sneak Attack 3 Sundering Strike 1 A Game of Dice 3 No Hiding Place 3 Spirit of the Scout Followers (1) 1 Asahina House Guard Items (6) 3 Tsuruchi Daikyu 3 Cursed Relic Rings (3) 1 Ring of Earth 1 Ring of Fire 1 Ring of Water
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| # ¿ Feb 22, 2012 18:21 |
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Valgaav posted:Keep talking. I'm liking what I'm hearing, especially because fluffwise I can use it to represent the Scorpion getting investigated for those questionable methods they use that never actually have any repercussions. Don't forget that there's #l5r on synirc, I idle in here while at work and others pop in/out, occasionally a few egg games are organized. Caught you pre-edit Yeah, Hotako's action is so good that she should probably go into every non-super-blitz military deck in EE base.
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| # ¿ Feb 22, 2012 19:06 |
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Mayostard posted:Anybody know of a good Canadian based webstore? Part of that is likely due to the fact that EE hasn't officially released yet. Once potomac starts shipping orders and kotei prizes start going out the price will probably drop.
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| # ¿ Feb 23, 2012 19:32 |
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sansuki posted:I just started last week during our sealed event, and am now looking to try and make a Lion Ancestor deck. To that end, could someone explain to me how "Skipping the Puddle" works, and how I would use it as defense. I was looking to have it help against cavelry, but i think I would need a "Plans Within Plans" then. When you use the limited action on Skipping the Puddle, you put it into play and it gives you (the player) the battle ability to move one of your water shugenja in and take an additional action. It remains in play until you play another Kata card (unlikely) or until another player gets rid of it (I don't even know if that's possible).
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| # ¿ Feb 27, 2012 17:23 |
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sansuki posted:But since its limited, i can only do it on my turn. And it only lasts for that turn, right? The limited action is to put the card into play. When a card enters play, it stays there until something removes it from play. "Until the end of turn" is only the default for ongoing effects that don't have a stated duration.
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| # ¿ Feb 27, 2012 22:31 |
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nothingxs posted:This is what I've come up with when creating the Mantis deck I want to play. It uses Koshin Keep, and the goal is to flood the board with cheap navy/scout dudes and shoot the poo poo out my enemies. With arrows. Hiromi is your only non-ranged attack removal action, and that means Matsu Yuuto/Agetoki's trait of "Ranged Attacks may not target cards in this unit." will completely shut your deck down. Turn the flesh cutter arrows into either cursed relics or wyrmbone katanas. I am of the opinion that 3x peddler is way overkill, and I don't even like 2x except for card intensive combo/dishonor decks, and you should be running Peace in your fate deck anyways. Water is not vital enough to be running wisdom gained. 1x Chugo Seido would be a good holding add, as would Singh and Sachina. Madoka looks out of place. You should probably replace half+ of those followers with more battle strategies, for sure 3 sundering strike and 1 creating order. 18 strategies with only 3x strategic strike that does something on its own in battle is not the path to a military victory.
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| # ¿ Feb 28, 2012 07:48 |
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nothingxs posted:I can't think of a cheap replacement for Moshi Madoka. I just want a cheap body to be able to play; the fact that she's a scout is icing on the cake. Nakoshi fills that slot though. If you show up to a battle with half your dudes not having printed actions, and the other player has printed actions on all of their dudes, you're burning fate cards at a faster rate. I would run one of the 7/8G guys with a battle action over Madoka, or go out of clan for Daigotsu Hotako (11g, preventing their best personality from performing actions is amazing) and Takasho (6g -3honor, move in + additional action, ranged 5). Also turn topaz championship into emerald championship or something else.
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| # ¿ Feb 28, 2012 18:43 |
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nothingxs posted:Topaz Championship is so sexy though! :O No sideboards, and topaz champ does nothing unless it resolves when you have a Nakoshi/Madoka in play (or Unmei in very specific circumstances(the ones where Unmei is useless)). You could also go with the non-scout who has a ranged 5, or the magistrate who can bow or straighten something with lower gold cost. I was also just told that Brothers in Battle and Gold and Steel are also amazing in the ranged attack deck. chrisf fucked around with this message at Feb 28, 2012 around 19:07 |
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For comparison, here is what my friend sent me when I asked him about mantis ranged attack stuff. (in convenient egg deck form) http://dash-dash-dash-dash.com/chri...antisranged.l5d
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| # ¿ Feb 29, 2012 21:01 |
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nothingxs posted:Darn, almost no attachments. What's his reasoning behind having so few of them? Generally the good, worthwhile attachments cost as much or more than a personality, and it's a tradeoff of less attachment protection but more targets and more resilience to actions that affect entire units. It is a decklist I was given and not built myself, though. If I were to tweak it, I'd probably find room for 3x tsuruchi daikyu and I'd switch out a personality for Daigotsu Hotako because every deck needs Hotako. A Fancy Bloke posted:What's better for Monksai/Conqueror as a 2/2? I'm obviously not the only one that thinks its a staple if it's sold out at all the usual suspects. What other holdings are you running?
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| # ¿ Feb 29, 2012 22:20 |
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The dragon and unicorn champions are also naga, so if you're going naga theme you could go with either of those clans so that you get clan holdings, the ability to gain honor, and so on. TFT really suffers against EE dishonor which tends to do lots of smaller losses instead of the fewer big chunks of prior editions.
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| # ¿ Feb 29, 2012 23:19 |
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Any idea where Heavy Infantry Dojo comes from? I mean, which promo pack or Herald issue? I wonder if I have it. "Q3 2011 Event Support Pack Prize Support Promo"
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| # ¿ Mar 1, 2012 15:15 |
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Valgaav posted:Post looks good, Tao. Seconding the need for an Emperor Legal image pack, though. Here's my cranescout decklist: 1 Hidden Falls Dojo # Dynasty (40) # Events (1) 1 The Emerald Championship # Celestials (1) 1 Jurojin's Blessing # Regions (1) 1 The Second City # Holdings (16) 3 Ageless Shrine 3 Archery Range 1 Chugo Seido 3 Prosperous Village 3 Marketplace 1 Stolen Merchandise 1 Traveling Peddler 1 Temples of Gisei Toshi # Personalities (21) 3 Daidoji Ebizo 3 Daidoji Masafuni 3 Daidoji Takichi 3 Daidoji Tametaka 1 Daidoji Yuki - exp 3 Doji Atsumichi 1 Daigotsu Hotako - exp3 1 Hiruma Akio - exp 3 Shinjo Kinto (can be whatever, I like Kinto for the cav + sendhome) # Fate (40) # Strategies (30) 3 Advance Warning 3 Burn the Towers 3 Seeking the Truth 3 Strategic Strike 3 The Trap is Sprung! 1 Creating Order 1 Peace 3 Sneak Attack 3 Sundering Strike 1 A Game of Dice 3 No Hiding Place 3 Spirit of the Scout # Followers (1) 1 Asahina House Guard # Items (6) 3 Tsuruchi Daikyu 3 Cursed Relic # Rings (3) 1 Ring of Earth 1 Ring of Fire 1 Ring of Water
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| # ¿ Mar 5, 2012 15:01 |
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Valgaav posted:So, going through point by point. Valgaav posted:I can see why it's there, but I'm not sure that I like it over Shinden Shorai. I usually used that in combination with the Hidden Falls Dojo's open to be able to buy a personality and use Super-Cavalry. Valgaav posted:That seems...light. Like "How am I going to pay for all this" light. Am I just misreading it? Valgaav posted:As a matter of principle, I'd like to not use Spider clan cards. Call me what you will, I just don't accept the Spider as something the Great Clans should ally with. Valgaav posted:This, on the other hand, I thank you for pointing me towards. Of course, finding a physical copy will likely be hard, but there you go. Valgaav posted:Could you explain why I'd want these over more ranged or movement support? I'd honestly rather have three more Brothers in Battle.
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| # ¿ Mar 5, 2012 16:56 |
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Mikan posted:It'd be nice just to get decks for a bunch of different Clans so my friends can pick between them. If the most efficient option is expensive-ish it wouldn't be hard to convince them to pitch in at least. The EE starter decks are fully constructed (other than the 4 random rares) and also contain three booster packs, 1 EE 1 second city 1 before the dawn. They won't necessarily be fantastic, but they're playable enough.
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| # ¿ Mar 6, 2012 13:53 |
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Mayostard posted:The starter decks are great. The local card store sells them for $20 each, so it's a good deal. It's actually kind of addictive buying them. Where do you live? The msrp is $25 so you should buy a bunch for me.
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| # ¿ Mar 6, 2012 15:11 |
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Very much yes for Hotako. 1x Qalyar is kind of silly, maybe look at unaligned uniques or uniques of other clans to see if you can fit something in. Daigotsu Gyoken xp2 is kind of pricy but the attachment recursion can be nice. Maybe Bayushi Kahoko xp? Aroru xp2?
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| # ¿ Mar 6, 2012 16:07 |
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nothingxs posted:Ironically, I like Qalyar because it means I can get recon at a second battleground. It doesn't give me the awesome ranged features, but recon is always nice. If you only have one open slot, you should fill it with a unique as they tend to be slightly/significantly more powerful than a nonunique. If you really want to work qalyar in, you should find room for 3x for the reliability. And with the way koshin keep works, attacking multiple provinces at once is unlikely to be a regular occurrence.
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| # ¿ Mar 6, 2012 16:54 |
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Mikan posted:I wish it were easier to keep track of what all the keywords did. http://rules.l5r.com/EE_Card_features#Keywords has most of the ones that do something.
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| # ¿ Mar 7, 2012 07:59 |
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Valgaav posted:Yeah, Ranged Attacks are nasty. Don't forget that you don't have to say who the attack is targeting until after he has a chance to modify it! This depends on if the reaction that modifies it is a reaction to announcing, or a reaction to targeting.
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| # ¿ Mar 7, 2012 13:42 |
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Tao Jones posted:So I built this thing. It seems to work pretty well, and I thought I'd share it since I haven't seen Dragon decks or dedicated honor decks posted. I was entertained by the concept and tweaked it a bit. 1 Dragon's Breath Castle # Dynasty (40) # Events (1) 1 Boastful Proclamation # Celestials (1) 1 Ebisu's Honesty # Regions (1) 1 Blighted Region # Holdings (15) 3 Gold Mine 1 Traveling Peddler 3 Governor's Court 3 Rugashi Bazaar 2 Temple of Hotei 1 Falling Rain Dojo 1 Stolen Merchandise 1 Public Records # Personalities (22) 3 Tamori Kazushige 3 Tamori Muzu 3 Kitsuki Nubane 1 Tamori Ruya 3 Kitsuki Horume 3 Kitsuki Daisuke 3 Kitsuki Kinaro 1 Mirumoto Ichizo - exp 1 Mirumoto Shikei 1 Soshi Yorimi # Fate (40) # Strategies (31) 1 A Game of Dice 3 Rocky Terrain 1 Peace 3 Dismissing the Cur 3 Remember Your Ancestors 3 Rhetoric 2 The Law's Strength 3 Steel on Steel 3 Sanctioned Duel 3 Discovering a Conspiracy 3 Bonds of Coin 3 Entrenched Position # Followers (3) 3 Hida Defenders # Spells (3) 3 The Mountain's Power # Rings (3) 1 Ring of Fire 1 Ring of Earth 1 Ring of the Void
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| # ¿ Mar 9, 2012 17:42 |
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Valgaav posted:Could you explain why? At worst it's another 2-gold-for-2-gold holding. If your turn 1 is stolen merch + another holding, and your opponent is paying attention to that, they can buy one of the 5 or 6 cost holdings and hurt your economy early. I accept that as a risk I'm willing to take for the payoff of double peddler, but not everyone does.
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| # ¿ Mar 10, 2012 00:50 |
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Valgaav posted:Then why would you ever run a follower instead? Followers don't generally have enough force to break provinces and items' force bonus boosts everyone but the most fragile shugenja out of shooting range. Bowing the personality removes his and his item's force, but bowing a personality doesn't prevent his follower from contributing force. Its supposed to be a tradeoff kind of decision, but the current weapons are so much better than the current followers that only gimmick military decks pick followers beyond their house guard. Honor decks have less need for the various 4 force 2 ability 8 gold weapons, and a few decent follower options in singh remnants or hida defenders.
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| # ¿ Mar 22, 2012 02:44 |
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-6th-ring currently streaming the finals of the NJ kotei, scorp dishonor vs lion ancestor honor.
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| # ¿ Mar 25, 2012 02:10 |
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Presumably the stream archives will end up at http://6thring.net/events/kotei2012/kotei-2012 since it looks like the other events they streamed from are there.
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| # ¿ Mar 26, 2012 14:43 |
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You aren't running any of the kiho, you could easily turn that into a dragon kensai deck where you can do bullshit like discard a weapon to brave new world, then stronghold to equip that weapon you just discarded.
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| # ¿ Mar 31, 2012 20:51 |
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A Fancy Bloke posted:How could I forget Cursed Relic? It also unbows your personality in addition to bowing/destroying a card. Don't discount that.
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| # ¿ Apr 5, 2012 17:46 |
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Proxy them for local play (unless you play with a bunch of douches) and borrow them from people who aren't using them at tournaments that matter?
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| # ¿ Apr 11, 2012 20:04 |
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I think the ninja stronghold is better for spider kensai than the intended stronghold is, solely because it has an unperformed battle action.
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| # ¿ Apr 13, 2012 03:04 |
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| # ¿ May 24, 2013 13:49 |
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Ranged 4 attacks do nothing against people with 5+ force or people with free 0f followers. Not everyone is running cards that move back in.
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| # ¿ Apr 13, 2012 21:21 |
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