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Ratios and Tendency posted:What are everybody's debate predictions? Well Cunliffe doesn't have an AWOL finance spokesperson, so hopefully there won't be a 'show me the money' moment this time  NZAmoeba posted:Loving the av, even if your last one was also perfect muldoon was an interesting cat
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The main result of the debate will be Nat supporters making fun of cunliffe's inability to pronounce homeowner. Even if key sodomizes a human baby on air this will be the only take away.
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Aug 28, 2014 07:02
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 Leaders' debate drinking game, via Toby Manhire's twitter.
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Aug 28, 2014 07:46
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Thank goodness I don't drink because the first 10 minutes would've hosed me up. Edit: Herald's doing their own version of the TV3 Worm. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11315021 edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 08:27
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Aug 28, 2014 08:35
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To his credit, Hosking has been reasonably consistent in how he's moderated this debate. Edit: to clarify, I mean that he's doing a poor job moderating overall with constant talking over each other from either side, but at least he's not favouring one side over the other. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 08:40
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Just on the performances, Cunliffe came off as smooth and confident, Key didn't disgrace himself but he did seem a little rattled, often trying little snippy comments and seeming a little annoyed. Cunliffe never wavered, was more assertive and got his ideas across better.
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Aug 28, 2014 09:59
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Key looked like poo poo - really deep dark circles under his eyes, not a great suit or haircut. Like he's been forced to sleep on the couch. Being a bit waspish didn't help convey the friendly easy going dude we've seen for so long.
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Aug 28, 2014 10:05
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Both sides were guilty of trying to talk over each other, but Cunliffe handled it better by basically bulldozing through. The Herald just gave the debate to Cunliffe. To break it down: Fran O'Sullivan - Cunliffe Toby Manhire - Cunliffe John Armstrong - Cunliffe Audrey Young - Key http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11315759 Andrea Vance at Fairfax hasn't outright stated it, but implies that Cunliffe won. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10436058/Debate-turns-slug-fest Corin Dann gave it to Cunliffe as well. http://tvnz.co.nz/vote-2014-news/corin-dann-probably-points-victory-cunliffe-6066785 edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 10:09
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hosking is so pompous haha if consensus is that cunliffe won this one there'll hopefully be less '  john campbell liberal bias' if he does well on 3's debate
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Aug 28, 2014 12:30
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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Aug 28, 2014 22:53
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dusty posted:Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... Goldsmith waits, biding his time to strike...
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I live in the U.S, so TV3's "average New Zealander" series won't load for some reason. Don't suppose there's anywhere else to see it? Mind you, I'm inclined to think not being able to hear the opinions of the spawn of Henry might be a blessing in disguise...
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SuperiorColliculus posted:I live in the U.S, so TV3's "average New Zealander" series won't load for some reason. Don't suppose there's anywhere else to see it? Oh god, her voice.... 
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Oh god I thought it was just being abroad for so long and not being used to the accent. That is terrible in so many ways.
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Aug 29, 2014 03:51
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Wow her accent really is a horror. She's got that thing where she won't even pronounce the letter L.
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truther posted:If it's any consolation, I'm in NZ and can't watch it. 3 different networks and browsers, none of which can play it. Videos on 3 don't play with AdBlock i don't think :/ interviewer doesn't know wtf 
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Closer we get to the election the more I get this dreadful sinking feeling that were going to have a Nat/ACT/UF government with confidence and supply from NZF. Anyone else? Even with Peters obviously doing his best to destabilise National, I'm pretty sure he'd work with them if offered the right deal. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10437549/Peters-Key-squabble-over-Collins-coup-attempt voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Jacobin posted:Goldsmith waits, biding his time to strike... Ah good lad, first post instantly identifies a malevolent scheming Goldsmith. He's planning next hagiography for glorious best act leader  <- tears of joy You voting Mana, Greens or hard out Trotskyist-Maoist this time around? fong posted:Closer we get to the election the more I get this dreadful sinking feeling that were going to have a Nat/ACT/UF government with confidence and supply from NZF. Anyone else? dusty fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Interesting extra deserving of own post - One columnist for a rural rag I follow on Twitter swears up and down that she's got inside news that Key wants out - approach to Winston was on behalf of Key wanting to prepare way for his retirement. Key is desperate to go, apparently. Hmmm. Key's certainly having a real poo poo time and looks loving awful. If the teapot tapes made him consider quitting as he claimed to John Roughan, then Dirty Politics should make him want to crawl into his running Bentley while still parked in the five car garage. What's actually left for Key? He doesn't really wanna do anything else, he's got no plans, no goals. No World Cup to host, no Americas Cup challenge to enjoy. He's hosted the royals, golfed with Obama and had his 3-way handshake. Apart from the naked love of power, what's left for this multi-squillioaire? It wouldn't really surprise me, but one swallow does not a summer make.
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I made it through 20 seconds of Henry's daughter speak,I commend you brave goons who made it through the whole thing.
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Even if they win it wouldn't really surprise me to see him quit not long into the term. I'd be really surprised if he's still at the helm for 2017, anyway.
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fong posted:Even if they win it wouldn't really surprise me to see him quit not long into the term. I'd be really surprised if he's still at the helm for 2017, anyway. I although I kinda wish that Collins hadn't shat in the water cooler so spectacularly, since watching the post Key power vacuum and Joyce Collins fisticuffs would have been so utterly enjoyable.
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Snafe posted:I although I kinda wish that Collins hadn't shat in the water cooler so spectacularly, since watching the post Key power vacuum and Joyce Collins fisticuffs would have been so utterly enjoyable. Watching them drink from the poo poo-filled water cooler and insisting that it's OK is perversely entertaining in its own right.
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Exclamation Marx posted:Videos on 3 don't play with AdBlock i don't think :/ What the gently caress. I don't think I could have invented worse answers if I tried. You've all said enough and I'm late to the party but wow, that was still quite the surprise...
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dusty posted:Rumour Just tweeted this at Patrick Gower and he favourited it. Maybe he thinks the same thing.
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newtestleper posted:Just tweeted this at Patrick Gower and he favourited it. Maybe he thinks the same thing. Ahahaha - plant the seed. Plant the seed @rfstew the source btw - she's stirring hard on twitter on right now. She's a long time columnist in New Plymouth's Daily News, but lives nearer Wellington I think
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I'm quite surprised this hasn't really been suggested more by the media, Key has looked like he's sick of poo poo for almost a year now.
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Speaking of Gower, here's his interview with Winston where he makes the allegations about Collins. http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/full-interview-winston-peters-on-judith-collins-and-dirty-politics-2014082818
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Holy loving poo poo. So I figured out the adblock thing that was stopping me watching the 'average kiwi' video. I so wanted to post it on my Facebook and say "Don't be a Bella, get involved in politics!". But then the rant about whales and their oil happened and I just didn't have the heart to go through with it.
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Stuff poll has Labour up 3.6% and National down 4.3% since the release of Hager's book. National: 50.8 Labour: 26.1 Greens: 11.8 NZF: 4 Con: 2.7 IMP: 2.2 Maori: 0.7 ACT: 0.7 UF: 0.2
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Herald is reporting that Judith Collins is going to resign/be sacked. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11316644
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Hooten posted:@MatthewHootonNZ: Random question:which minister in @johnkeypm's govt may have leaked info re Serious Fraud Office investigations to those being investigated?
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I'm so sick of NZ media's false equivalences of the 'dirty politics' played by the Right and the Left. Serious allegations of top-down corruption, intimidation of public servants, and extremely negative campaigning from a National party that is in government clearly represents dirty politics coming from the political Right; a loving awful hip-hop song about John Key does not represent the political Left at all, even the I-M "gently caress John Key" thing is barely culpable, given it was a bunch of drunk teenagers. I've never seen the poo poo that comes out of the Young Nats ball each year being used as an example of dirty politics from the Right, and nor should it be. I don't understand why they go after this idiotic crap, and don't just focus on something tangible coming from the political Left, like that idiot Gibson calling Key a "Shylock".
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El Pollo Blanco posted:I don't understand why they go after this idiotic crap, and don't just focus on something tangible coming from the political Left, like that idiot Gibson calling Key a "Shylock". Because they're in on it.
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