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Things Russel Norman didn't think he would have to do today:Felix Marwick @felixmarwick posted:Green Party Co-Leader @RusselNorman disagrees with @SteffanBrowning's views on homeopathy & Ebola. has spoken to his MP about the matter
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At least Labour managed to stop their MPs from doing or saying something stupid just as they start to get some hits on the government... Of course I am sure that will change once the leadership election is over.
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Bob Jones posted:If you want the $18.50 "living wage" or better, choose employment paying it, rather than complain. Bob Jones is a shithead.
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*spits coffee* Rich old white man loudly proclaims out-of-touch opinions about the poor? 
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Oct 30, 2014 08:59
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forestry workers, nurses and air traffic controllers are now free from socialist tea breaks 
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Exclamation Marx posted:forestry workers, nurses and air traffic controllers are now free from socialist tea breaks Rip those people and the people around them
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Oct 30, 2014 09:24
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Whats next for the gently caress you got mine. Bigger cars I reckon. Bigger "gently caress you" cars. Yeah.
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:Whats next for the gently caress you got mine. The fleet contract is up for review shortly, but I don't think there is an engine that is powered by the severed limbs of poors in any current production model.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:56
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they should have flintstone style limos, powered by a fleet of poors running barefoot on the govt.s poorly laid and maintained tarmac
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:they should have flintstone style limos, powered by a fleet of poors running barefoot on the govt.s poorly laid and maintained tarmac The real source of 10000 jobs.
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Exclamation Marx posted:forestry workers, nurses and air traffic controllers are now free from socialist tea breaks But Hry Mike Hosking says he doesn't need a break so everything will be ok.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:15
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Varkk posted:Forestry workers are often independent contractors (or employed through several layers of contracting companies, leaving no one to take liability when poo poo goes wrong) so didn't get things like breaks or a safe work environment before. Nurses and ATC have a fairly good union backing them so should still keep their breaks. But people in the hospitality and retail sectors which often lack union protection will be truly hosed. my understanding re contractors is that they were entitled to the mandatory breaks after the 2008 law passed, and unlike after this last change couldn't be bargained away? the bill is also aimed to push individual contracts afaik, so that new workers in traditionally unionised jobs don't join the union and don't get the old benefits.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:30
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Bustin' Unions like it's 1824!
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So now the average workday is 8:30 to 5:20 now, huh? No paid lunch, no paid teabreaks, what's next?
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WarpedNaba posted:So now the average workday is 8:30 to 5:20 now, huh? No paid lunch, no paid teabreaks, what's next? No pay.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:45
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Roll on American-style "Internships"
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:No pay. Please, the correct terminology is 'more flexible reimbursement opportunities'.
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I think if you were getting a paid lunch then you were pretty lucky For employers to walk away from collective bargaining they have to demonstrate they've acted in good faith. So basically in the next 15 years there's going to be some big court case and a judge will dictate what the conditions of acting in good faith are.
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There's already a thing where people are giving ~tourists food and board in their spare room/shed in exchange for manual labour, essentially way under minimum wage.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:There's already a thing where people are giving ~tourists food and board in their spare room/shed in exchange for manual labour, essentially way under minimum wage. woah angry moo cow callout
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Ghostlight posted:Roll on American-style "Internships" We already have those.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:No pay. More Novopay contracts?
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A farmer accidentally cut an internet cable and every fibre optic internet user south of Dunedin loses internet. Great job, NZ.
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bobbilljim posted:next you pay to work there Wake up two hours before you go to bed, clean your lake, drink half a cup of leftover cold poison, go to work as a miner's pick for forty hours per day and pay the mine owner for the privilege, and every night before you go home the boss kills you and dances about on your grave.
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What makes me so mad about legislation such as this is that it shifts the baseline of the employer-employee relationship back. Put simply, there will now be thousands of people getting their first job who, when presented with a new contract with no tea/smoko breaks won't even bat an eyelid - its all they know. You can't blame them for not knowing the historical details of employee rights at 16 or 17 or 18. When poo poo like this gets normalized (a.k.a a generation of new workers grow up working with no break) we distance ourselves further from the idea that you are NOT some kind of machine but a HUMAN BEING who deserves basic things like breaks and tea and smokes. Class consciousness is a thing guys!!!!!! As i said before: hairypanis posted:burn it all; give another species a go.
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No tea or lunch breaks, but I'll get around to giving you that time off at some point. Obviously not right now, because we're really busy at the moment. Maybe in a couple of months when things quiet down.
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slinkimalinki posted:No tea or lunch breaks, but I'll get around to giving you that time off at some point. Obviously not right now, because we're really busy at the moment. Maybe in a couple of months when things quiet down. Oh and I am docking your pay because you're working to your contract, just like you were before, and productivity hasn't gone down, but I can do it so why not.
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Can't pay your rent? Afford groceries? My ignorance of the Consumer Price Index is to blame? That sounds mighty 90-day to me! Not to worry, though, here's a solution: I'll set up a sort of micro-supermarket for all my employees! You'll get special rates! Sort of like a, well, like a company store!
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Oct 31, 2014 05:05
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Since you don't have any breaks (remember we discussed this and I'm giving them to you later. All the other employees like it because it gives them flexibility) then obviously no you can't just leave your job to go to the toilet. It's only a 6 hour shift and frankly you should be fine to hold on that long.
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bobbilljim posted:woah angry moo cow callout Hey now, I give them a ride to the end of the road when I am done with their services. Actually about to get a couple of foreigns to plant some trees for a month or so. Just negotiating the food terms, as I don't want to cook for them. I'll throw food at them but they can cook it. I'm willing to knock off an hour of labour for that 
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So over the weekend WhaleOil put up a long rambling post about how the Machiavellian masterminds of the left are plotting to kill him. Apparently his hacked emails and Hager's book re all part of a larger plot which included Hamas firing poorly aimed rockets at him in Tel Aviv and the voices inside his head telling him to kill himself. Of course it all ended with a statement that to make it right all the readers had to do was pay for his upcoming defence of the Human Rights Commission court case (and the probable fine if found guilty). So has he lost it and about to break? or is he just getting desperate for cash now that he is damaged gods and isn't being paid as well by his former clients?
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quote:A few, at the center of the criminal conspiracy know and fear Cam Slater for the right reasons: they know exactly what his power is. And that is why they got together to create a plan that they hoped would topple Cam Slater’s will to live.
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Cameron Slater has spent a decent part of the last 15 years on the health & disabilities benefit, I think he legit struggles with depression and this recent poo poo certainly won't have helped with that. Makes it all the more galling the way he cracks on beneficiaries.
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It gets worse. Apparently the account details they posted for his donation drive was actually the trust account for one of the lawyers dealing with his case. He posted it without consulting with them. They have asked that he not use their account for a public begging session. I guess because having multiple small amounts come in from multiple unidentified sources for one client causes them no end of issues in sorting it all out and possible some cost in transaction fees etc. Of course this is further evidence of the vast conspiracy out to get poor innocent Whale. Also: quote:The fact legal firms can represent murderers, rapists and granny bashers and take their money quietly is one thing, but oh no – we can’t be seen with that Slater guy who has not been arrested, charged or even suspected of a criminal offence. http://www.donotlink.com/ccex
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fong posted:Cameron Slater has spent a decent part of the last 15 years on the health & disabilities benefit, I think he legit struggles with depression and this recent poo poo certainly won't have helped with that. Makes it all the more galling the way he cracks on beneficiaries. I always wondered what would turn up if he was investigated for benefit fraud based on his bragging about money from various backdoor sources for the mud slinging he does.
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There was a thing about NZ/John Key on John Oliver's Last Week Tonight Was it about how terrible a leader he is? Was it about the spying cover ups? Was it about his use of bloggers as attack dogs to ruin people's lives? Nope, it was about how lovely the designs suggested were. Oh well, looks like Key's distraction methods have worked.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:There was a thing about NZ/John Key on John Oliver's Last Week Tonight  like the eminem thing, big lols at joyce saying it was 'pretty legal', nothing on the other big yet equally pathetic story at the time (key calling greenwald a loser)
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