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Out of 16 features I'd only call two of them awful. I'm there for you, Tim. Charlie gets a pass for this flag scene, in case you were wondering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvo7Go-Vd4&t=4941s
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:In a lot of ways, many women are a poorly drawn Pam Grier. 
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Oct 21, 2014 11:38
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Charlie at least had amazing sets and some pretty good Danny Elfman musical numbers to back it up. And it still got the essence of the story right. Its main flaw was not having Gene Wilder. But Alice was just a big greenscreen nightmare that turned a well-known, beloved, unique story into something indistinguishable from any other fantasy movie. This new thing looks good though!
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Oct 21, 2014 12:34
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They took a chance in Charlie with Johnny Depp's bizarre Michael Jackson impression for his role as Willy Wonka, and it failed, hard. Just because Jack Sparrow worked doesn't mean that we should fully accept his artistic vision every single time. Alice was atrocious. I'm shocked that they are making a sequel, because it seemed like it was on Netflix just a month after being out in theaters. I'd contend that aside from Big Fish, the last good movie Tim Burton made was Sleepy Hollow.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:43
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Nihonniboku posted:They took a chance in Charlie with Johnny Depp's bizarre Michael Jackson impression for his role as Willy Wonka, and it failed, hard. Just because Jack Sparrow worked doesn't mean that we should fully accept his artistic vision every single time. Alice made over a billion.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:45
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Mars Attacks was the last good one 
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Oct 21, 2014 13:07
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morestuff posted:Alice made over a billion. I always forget that because it doesn't make any sense. Alice is bad, but it also seems really un-Burtonlike. Does anyone know if it had major studio interference or something?
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Oct 21, 2014 13:10
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Y'all acting like Frankenweenie wasn't dope.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:57
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davidspackage posted:I always forget that because it doesn't make any sense. To be honest everything about Alice in Wonderland's success has always baffled the poo poo out of me. I straight-up do not get why that movie was so popular, Burton-y or no.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:24
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Teenage Fansub posted:Y'all acting like Frankenweenie wasn't dope. I liked it a lot - great set pieces, fun story and I can see it hitting the same spot that Nightmare did with young people.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:32
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mind the walrus posted:To be honest everything about Alice in Wonderland's success has always baffled the poo poo out of me. I straight-up do not get why that movie was so popular, Burton-y or no. I say it everything it's brought up. Japan. It, Frozen and Avatar are three of the most successful foreign films in Japan, ever. I think Titanic's still way up there, too.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:44
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I say it everything it's brought up. Japan. It, Frozen and Avatar are three of the most successful foreign films in Japan, ever. I think Titanic's still way up there, too. Japan didn't give Alice in Wonderland $330 million domestic gross. The smash hit success of that film just confuses me, too. When it was new I didn't hear anyone interested in it or anyone saying a nice thing about it, and afterward it seems to have completely vanished from public consciousness. Nobody cares about that movie, not even strongly enough to hate it. And yet it somehow made a billion dollars.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:18
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True, but it's not that surprising that it was a hit here. It seems surprising that it was a smash overseas.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:24
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I say it everything it's brought up. Japan. It, Frozen and Avatar are three of the most successful foreign films in Japan, ever. I think Titanic's still way up there, too. Actually, It was a miniseries.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:29
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Actually, It was a miniseries. It was later released on home video and all that as a movie too. Your move bitch.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:30
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Alice probably just lucked into some sweet spot of coincidences, and I expect the sequel is going to bang its nose if it gets like a $200 million budget.
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davidspackage posted:Alice probably just lucked into some sweet spot of coincidences, and I expect the sequel is going to bang its nose if it gets like a $200 million budget. That's how much the first one cost, so it'll probably be more. It's a combination of a megastar, a property well-known internationally because of Disney, and visuals the advertisers can sell around in every market. I assume it'll do OK.
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Random Stranger posted:Japan didn't give Alice in Wonderland $330 million domestic gross. See this is what I'm saying. I'm no expert on this sort-of thing but Alice is just bizarre in ways I can barely comprehend.
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  Hahaha is he like, blind? This is a tragic story about a really bad blind swordsman who died pretty quickly.
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Oct 21, 2014 18:01
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Why is Gandalf holding the Eye of Sauron.
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Oct 21, 2014 18:09
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That dragon or whatever looks like a Xenomorph with goofy eyes and nostrils plastered to the front. Looks bad. Trash bad.
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Oct 21, 2014 19:03
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mind the walrus posted:To be honest everything about Alice in Wonderland's success has always baffled the poo poo out of me. I straight-up do not get why that movie was so popular, Burton-y or no. I was in high school when it came out, and all the goth/scene kids were bonkers about that movie, I'd imagine that was part of the success.
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FutonForensic posted:That dragon or whatever looks like a Xenomorph with goofy eyes and nostrils plastered to the front. Looks bad. Trash bad. It's a transformed Julianne Moore. It looks as stupid as you imagine. Check the red hair. 
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Oct 21, 2014 20:00
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I'm kind of hoping that this time next year, we'll be seeing Seventh Son posters with "201
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Oct 21, 2014 20:07
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Coffee And Pie posted:I was in high school when it came out, and all the goth/scene kids were bonkers about that movie, I'd imagine that was part of the success. It's this. I must've seen at least 20 Burton Mad Hatter costumes of varying quality around Halloween.
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Oct 22, 2014 11:48
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Don't forget that Alice In Wonderland was the first big 3d movie to come out after Avatar. A lot of people saw it because they were expecting a similar level of spectacle and instead they got burned on a shoddy post-conversion.
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Oct 22, 2014 12:33
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Don't forget that Alice In Wonderland was the first big 3d movie to come out after Avatar. A lot of people saw it because they were expecting a similar level of spectacle and instead they got burned on a shoddy post-conversion. I got burned by the shotty 3D so bad. Really turned me off to all 3D movies (still saw Dredd though!). I always check if a film's post converted now. I remember watching the movie and the scene with the caterpillar starts by having the shot where it closes in on the giant mushroom and it was so bad my eyes started to hurt.
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Oct 22, 2014 14:46
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boom boom boom posted:The tiny text undercuts the idea of the poster, showing a tiny little Bruce Wayne going towards a giant bat shaped future. Indeed, upon viewing in negative-space mode, Wayne is but a bat-dropping falling mid-flight. Makes you think.
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Oct 22, 2014 14:54
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KinkyJohn posted:Indeed, upon viewing in negative-space mode, Wayne is but a bat-dropping falling mid-flight. Makes you think. It's a neat little commentary about Bruce Wayne actually being batshit insane.
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MacheteZombie posted:I got burned by the shotty 3D so bad. Really turned me off to all 3D movies (still saw Dredd though!). I always check if a film's post converted now. I remember watching the movie and the scene with the caterpillar starts by having the shot where it closes in on the giant mushroom and it was so bad my eyes started to hurt. Post-conversion can be good these days if they actually put a decent bit of effort into making it so. Like Guardians of the Galaxy, for example, was post-converted but still top notch 3D and one of the few films I think were noticeably improved by viewing in 3D. (Pity most of the other Marvel 3D's been kinda generic)
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Seriously, post-conversion is no longer a total joke. Give Pacific Rim 3D a spin and tell me it doesn't look good.
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Oct 22, 2014 21:39
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Pacific Rim in IMAX 3D was loving fantastic.
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zenintrude posted:Seriously, post-conversion is no longer a total joke. Give Pacific Rim 3D a spin and tell me it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good, but that's safely on 3D itself, the conversion was fine. It's just not an appealing technology.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Mars Attacks was the last good one Sleepy Hollow is both his last good movie and his best one
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Oct 23, 2014 02:11
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zenintrude posted:Seriously, post-conversion is no longer a total joke. Give Pacific Rim 3D a spin and tell me it doesn't look good. Most of the movie was in CG and they got the effect shots in 3D from the VFX studios. Also Guillermo asked and got more time for the conversion. It looks great and I also think StereoD has made good job with the latest Marvel movies. Conversion doesn't really work that well if the movie isn't shot with 3D in mind like not using the foreground in shots.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Sleepy Hollow is both his last good movie and his best one Everything named Sleepy Hollow is good, the story, the movie, and the tv show. When will people accept this?
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Oct 23, 2014 05:43
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I remember really liking the first two acts of Sleepy Hollow and thinking it totally poo poo the bed in the third, like in almost a textbook example of how to gently caress up a perfectly good movie with a bad third act, but I saw the movie over 10 years ago so I'm can't remember particulars.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:46
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Is that drawn by Paul Pope?
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Right, you made me Google them. On your own heads be it. TIM BURTON MONDO AND CUSTOM POSTERS, GO!     
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