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How is flak and AA modeled in BoS? In Il-2, the mechanic of simulating a lot of AA guns with one or two really accurate guns due to CPU limitations always felt a little weird.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:37
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I see myself as getting this in the (very) near future. If people want to fly some planes tomorrow, perhaps, that would be neat.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:49
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Bubbacub posted:How is flak and AA modeled in BoS? In Il-2, the mechanic of simulating a lot of AA guns with one or two really accurate guns due to CPU limitations always felt a little weird. I remember the first time I tried to make a level boming mission in IL2 I loaded up like 100+ guns to our ~20 bombers. It lagged like hell and we all got shot down before we could even drop.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:51
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Took out someone's wing and it flew back and hit the engine, taking out the prop. Good stuff.
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Aug 19, 2014 16:58
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Mr. Wookums posted:Took out someone's wing and it flew back and hit the engine, taking out the prop. Good stuff. Congrats on pulling a Hartmann.  Always fun.  Thief, I hope you and some of the other LAMErs make some good gifs/videos of summadat pilot poo poo in BoS. 
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Aug 19, 2014 17:03
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Ralith posted:Those don't seem to happen quite as much, though I've been seriously injured a couple times. I discovered today that if you parachute into enemy territory it counts as getting captured and you don't get any points (giving a nice incentive to try to limp back home), so I imagine dying doesn't get you any either. Plastic fatigue failure of components is indeed a step up. In 1946, it very much seemed like the planes were made out of legos, although the latest patch at least makes you more prone to wing failure pulling G's if you've taken damage in that wing.
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Aug 19, 2014 18:52
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What are the two extra planes you get with the $100 version? And are there any other differences between that and the $50 one?
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Aug 19, 2014 19:15
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The La-5 and Fw-190. Dunno which variants off the top of my head.
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Aug 19, 2014 19:23
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Congrats on pulling a Hartmann. Hartman didn't shoot from 12 o'clock.
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Aug 19, 2014 19:48
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Sagebrush posted:What are the two extra planes you get with the $100 version? And are there any other differences between that and the $50 one? JerikTelorian posted:I see myself as getting this in the (very) near future. If people want to fly some planes tomorrow, perhaps, that would be neat.
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Aug 19, 2014 20:23
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Thief, I hope you and some of the other LAMErs make some good gifs/videos of summadat pilot poo poo in BoS. I'm personally waiting until I get around to buying a TrackIR before fully diving into this game like that because the view controls on the RoF engine are wonky as hell when all you have is a mouse. I mean, its manageable but it doesn't have that 1 button mouse look/snap-back-to-center and insta zoom in like in the other flight sims we've been dorking around in. The combination of a TrackIR and being able to customize your exact viewpoints is going to rule so hard though I might just live inside BoS.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:16
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Thief posted:I'm personally waiting until I get around to buying a TrackIR before fully diving into this game like that because the view controls on the RoF engine are wonky as hell when all you have is a mouse. I mean, its manageable but it doesn't have that 1 button mouse look/snap-back-to-center and insta zoom in like in the other flight sims we've been dorking around in. The combination of a TrackIR and being able to customize your exact viewpoints is going to rule so hard though I might just live inside BoS. Speaking as a TrackIR-haver, I can't wait to try this out with the Oculus Rift.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:25
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Ralith posted:What's the point of customizing exact viewpoints when you have 6DoF? This. Plus I believe RoF does have the "one button mouse look/snap-back-to-center and insta zoom" thing, you just have to tweak your settings from the defaults, and set up custom head snaps.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:31
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Not gonna be using the IR for zoom or shooting purposes 24/7. And the snap-center configs are severely Russian, it's not worth setting up when I have it exactly how I want it in every other game that isn't on this engine. Customizing viewpoints also can function as a shortcut of sorts.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:54
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Do the BoS planes have manuals/datasheets like in IL-2? I'm hoping that there will be more complete sheets since they seem to be going for fewer, more detailed planes. Hitting some obscure fighter and not knowing the ideal RPMs or operating parameters was a bit annoying, and I'm hoping there's a good guide to operation included.
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Ralith posted:Speaking as a TrackIR-haver, I can't wait to try this out with the Oculus Rift. I've never been a huge fan of the Rift. It's neat, and has good head tracking, but there's one big unsolvable problem: you have to take it off to see where your hands are. Maybe not a huge deal if you're mostly playing WASD games, or if you have every command you'd ever need on your HOTAS and completely muscle-memorized, but I find myself regularly needing to poke at the keyboard or mouse, or even to just look down to see what position some switch on the throttle is in. I could see that becoming a massive annoyance. This is beyond the screen door effect, limited field of view, 3D annoyances, etc. Besides -- I hooked my computer up to a 48" HDTV that I sit about 48 inches away from, and with a headtracker it's pretty damned immersive. You can't take in the whole screen at once so as you look around to different parts of the screen, your viewpoint shifts and it's actually very natural. I think everyone should at least give it a try.
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Aug 20, 2014 05:12
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The solution is a 2nd Generation Rift that has a camera in it that you can push a button to switch the feed to that instead of the game feed. Or maybe just find some clever way to do an outline or overlay of your hands and stuff. 
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Aug 20, 2014 05:24
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I'm just going to hold off on getting a rift until they're closer to retail. I don't know how well I'll react VR and I'd rather save $150 and just get TrackIR instead. Speaking of TrackIR, What's the best place to get it in Canada. I've come across a few places that sell them, but they're either out of stock or super shady. Will this bastion of web 1.0 spend all my money on black market barley or whatever you buy on the streets of saskatoon, or should I go hunting around my local stores when I get the chance (I haven't had any luck on the ones with websites)
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Aug 20, 2014 05:33
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How much are they in Canada? Shipping one to Canada or Europe from USA comes to around 150 bucks total. When I do them through my company, I charge 175 bucks to Europe.
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Aug 20, 2014 05:43
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Vahakyla posted:How much are they in Canada? Shipping one to Canada or Europe from USA comes to around 150 bucks total. When I do them through my company, I charge 175 bucks to Europe. $170 or so, plus like $20 shipping. Naturalpoint themselves would charge me $175 shipped, but that's in US dollars and it works out to be about $200 canadian.
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Aug 20, 2014 05:51
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The cheapest TIR will pop to your door for about 150 american dollars. If that is cheap enough, you can send an email to transactions@auroraborealistrading.net and I can ship it to you without commission. But it might not be cheap enough.
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Aug 20, 2014 06:00
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Thief posted:It's very much like Rise of Flight with WWII planes... I loving love Rise of Flight, so I'm chuffed to bits to hear the new IL2 is like that but faster, meaner and a whole lot more Russian.  The damage modelling really is the best part of that game.
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Sagebrush posted:I've never been a huge fan of the Rift. It's neat, and has good head tracking, but there's one big unsolvable problem: you have to take it off to see where your hands are. Maybe not a huge deal if you're mostly playing WASD games, or if you have every command you'd ever need on your HOTAS and completely muscle-memorized, but I find myself regularly needing to poke at the keyboard or mouse, or even to just look down to see what position some switch on the throttle is in. I could see that becoming a massive annoyance. This is beyond the screen door effect, limited field of view, 3D annoyances, etc. Eh, I think for the immersion it offers, it's worth it to spend a lot of extra time setting up my HOTAS to be 100% tactile. Most HOTAS setups, especially higher end ones, have way more than enough buttons and switches ergonomically mounted that you should never have to look at them. I can't imagine the engine management on the new game is so massively complex that I can't find a good configuration for control on my stick. As for the screen door effect, it's already almost gone on the new developer kit, and is promised to be completely a thing of the past on the first consumer version. FOV will also be improved in later versions. As for 3D annoyances, I can't imagine what you're talking about. I watched a video someone made for oculus in IL2, and I am almost beside myself waiting for the CV1 to come out and for BoS to incorporate it. dayman fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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So I noticed that the game is on Steam early access now, but my key that I bought from the the Il-2 website is reporting as invalid when I try to activate it through Steam. I contacted support about this and got some rude, dismissive replies. Is there any way I can get the game to appear in Steam or am I going to be stuck with their garbage slow bittorrent downloader forever?
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Aug 20, 2014 20:48
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Chill out and give them time to get stuff sorted out with steam. If they're going to make the game activate on steam (which they hopefully should since it doesn't have the same DLC situation RoF does) it will take a while for them to get things sorted out, and they'll probably announce when/if you can. Keep in mind that valve charges developers to generate keys, so it's probably not a priority right now.
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Aug 20, 2014 21:18
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Captain Novolin posted:since it doesn't have the same DLC situation RoF does Yes it does. There is a greater than 99.9% chance that keys bought from the BoS site will never be redeemable on Steam, and vice versa. So yes, Sagebrush is likely stuck with their terrible bittorrent downloader forever, unfortunately.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:09
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Yes it does. I meant more in that there aren't a billion planes already released with the option to buy them piecemeal on one but only in packs on the other. I would not hold out hope for a steam key either way.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:21
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Yeah, I think us early access buyers are being screwed over without recourse here, but oh well. Such is the cost of buying games from Russians. At least it's not Origin.
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Aug 21, 2014 02:10
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Congrats on all your uplay keys, guys!!!!!
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Ralith posted:Yeah, I think us early access buyers are being screwed over without recourse here, but oh well. Such is the cost of buying games from Russians. At least it's not Origin. This is exactly the reason why I didn't buy Ilya Muromets yet. It looks awesome and the price point is great, but I just know that if I buy it now it won't work on Steam when it inevitably finds its way there. Really lovely business practice, imo. Anyway, enjoy some graphics porn from IL-2 BOS: By the way, I don't know if War Thunder broke me or what, but I literally can't fly the FW-190 on normal FM settings without going into a flat spin that I can never get out of. Guess it's back to basics.
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I found I had to be super gentle pulling the FW190 into turns. Not so with the BF109, of course, but then the engine caught fire
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Aug 21, 2014 13:50
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The FW-190 handles like a dream if and only if you can keep its speed up and maneuver gently. A pretty pure BnZ plane. Try spawning at a further-back airfield and focusing on climbing for a bit before engaging, so you don't have to flop around at the edge of your envelope in combat.
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I keep reading out BOS like IL2 Sturmovik: Balls of Steel. Long time since I played 1946 and never tried RoF but this looks pretty awesome. How is the ground detail though? I read something about handmade environments and landmarks. But from the images posted here it looks about the same as 1946, flat terrain with some forests and zigzag roads (but maybe that's an accurate representation of Russia ). Is the city of Stalingrad included in the beta?
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:flat terrain with some forests and zigzag roads This is accurate terrain for most of the planet unless you're specifically in a mountainous area.
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Holy hell is it hard to taxi in this game. WTF. Also, now that I've actually tried dogfighting I agree with the 'it's more wobbly' sentiment. So far my gripes are far outweighed by the huge potential I see in this game.
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Aug 21, 2014 22:25
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What are the options for hosting in the BoS alpha? I was thinking more about the goon get-together, but how?
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Aug 21, 2014 22:28
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Right now you can only play on their servers.
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There's usually some nearly-empty "Normal"-difficulty (icons and arrows and automatic engine management and third person) servers, though if we all piled onto one of those pubbies would probably show up.Captain Scandinaiva posted:I keep reading out BOS like IL2 Sturmovik: Balls of Steel. EvilJoven posted:Holy hell is it hard to taxi in this game. WTF. It's definitely wobblier. It's anybody's guess whether that's more realistic or not, though, and it's balanced by weapons fire being substantially more damaging. Ralith fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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So i just picked up a new joystick and BOS. Ive only started the first mission just to get figure out the controls. For some reason my plane seems to have a perpetual yaw drift to the right? is anyone esle experiencing anything like this?
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