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the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

The Bends and Pablo Honey are both really boring though.

I would love reworked versions of those old songs I have to say. I dunno why RH is so averse to warping all their old standbys. I'd kill to hear a Street Spirit or Creep with a bunch of krautrock drum loops and synthlines instead of boring standard guitar strums/guitar picks. I thought they were going to go in this direction when I heard the Subterranean Homesick Alien with acoustic piano, but mostly aside from that the old songs they do play are the same ol same ol.

the Bunt fucked around with this message at Apr 17, 2012 around 02:32

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Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

the Bunt posted:

The Bends and Pablo Honey are both really boring though.

The gently caress's wrong with you?

Edit: By that I obviously mean to say I respectfully disagree.

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

Thinking of making a t-shirt with "The Bends sucks" printed on it for the London gig. "HTTT rules" will be on the back.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

...I'm sorry for your loss.


Chim posted:

i was hoping for a more exciting set, but in my opinion lately Radiohead has just become kind of a boring (live) band. I've seen them around 4 times and it's gotten progressively worse each time - will it seriously kill them to play some of their older material (e.g. the bends)?

This is you, isn't it?

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

Popcorn posted:

Thinking of making a t-shirt with "The Bends sucks" printed on it for the London gig. "HTTT rules" will be on the back.

HTTT rules, but The Bends owns as well. I don't know how you can call an album with The Bends, Fake Plastic Trees, Nice Dream, and Street Spirit "boring." (The other tracks are great, too, but those are my favorites from the album.)

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

It has a couple of good songs I admit and it's pretty emotional at times, I guess. But most of it is just saccharine 90s britpop. I don't believe that anyone actually felt any actual emotion when either writing or listening to High and Dry.

"boring" may be a bit harsh, but at the end of the day sometimes just solid songwriting isn't the only thing that makes up a great album. While the album was a good showcase to show that Radiohead wasn't a completely worthless band as Pablo Honey would mostly indicate, it's just not adventurous enough for me even considering the era it was made in.

My Pablo Honey hate is also a little hyperbolic, because Pablo Honey has some songs on it that I like more than anything on The Bends (Blowout and You in particular)!

AircraftNoise
May 9, 2008


the Bunt posted:

The Bends and Pablo Honey are both really boring though.

As opposed to an EP with 8 tracks, the first track of which is literally a 2 chord song. The final track features a repeating 3-4 second drumloop for nearly 5 minutes and is also a 2 chord song.

No, but The Bends its totally boring in comparison.

89
Feb 24, 2006
Now Broadcasting His Greatness in 87 Countries

the Bunt posted:

I don't believe that anyone actually felt any actual emotion when either writing or listening to High and Dry.

This is sarcasm, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgfTSHPTOQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgfTSHPTOQ

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

Legal consent is a tad arbitrary really

I'm sure he means it, High and Dry is one of their blandest songs and I've literally never liked it


AircraftNoise posted:

As opposed to an EP with 8 tracks, the first track of which is literally a 2 chord song. The final track features a repeating 3-4 second drumloop for nearly 5 minutes and is also a 2 chord song.

No, but The Bends its totally boring in comparison.
This is a really stupid way to look at music, idk if you're being facetious or what but the amount of chords in a song has zero bearing on how good the song is, come on

Paperhouse fucked around with this message at Apr 17, 2012 around 06:24

The Singing Chav
May 21, 2007



...The Bends is a bad album? Thread title needs to be changed to Radiohead fans are wrong about their music.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010


Radiohead fans are wrong about everything

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

I want some of that pepper steak!


The Bends is still a pretty solid album with some fantastic songs (but I don't think High and Dry is amongst the better half of them), it's just that it's nearly 20 years old and sounds like it, especially given how far the band itself has roamed.

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

the Bunt posted:

It has a couple of good songs I admit and it's pretty emotional at times, I guess. But most of it is just saccharine 90s britpop. I don't believe that anyone actually felt any actual emotion when either writing or listening to High and Dry.

Si. The word for The Bends is "naff". It's just naff. I like Street Spirit and Just OK, but even Fake Plastic Trees, the song that made me go "whoa what is this band?" years ago, leaves me cold now. It's sappy and dull. Thom has written so many better ballads since. And if you want scything guitar rock, well, OK Computer made the entirety of The Bends obsolete the instant it came out. As for the bands it "inspired"... well, people say Muse are Radiohead rip-offs, and if that's true, I would rather listen to Origin of Symmetry than The Bends any day of the week.

To be honest, there's very little 90s British rock music I like much anyway (especially when compared to the American rock scene in the same period - Pavement, Weezer, Liz Phair, oh my!) I adore OKC, obviously, and late Blur, but everything else I find dated and cheesy. The Bends is just another casualty of my disdain for that era. Then again, Radiohead's rock influences have always been more American anyway - REM, Sonic Youth, Neil Young - so it's interesting to see how they survived the popping of the Britpop bubble. Not that they ever really fit into it anyway. In fact, OKC arguably was the killing blow.

AircraftNoise posted:

As opposed to an EP with 8 tracks, the first track of which is literally a 2 chord song. The final track features a repeating 3-4 second drumloop for nearly 5 minutes and is also a 2 chord song.

No, but The Bends its totally boring in comparison.

While admittedly the fact that Just contains 900 different chords is part of what makes it an exciting song, this is kind of a narrow definition of boring vs not boring. The intricate textures and rhythms of TKOL fascinate me in a way The Bends never has. And it's got soul.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

Legal consent is a tad arbitrary really

The Singing Chav posted:

...The Bends is a bad album? Thread title needs to be changed to Radiohead fans are wrong about their music.

counterpoint:

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

the sea was angry that day, my friends


Paperhouse posted:

counterpoint:



Holy poo poo, this is making me laugh wayyyy too hard at work.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

When life gives you lemons DANCE DANCE DANCE!

Paid in part by CF


Paperhouse posted:

counterpoint:


Oh my god, hilarious!

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


The Bends is kinda boing if I'm not in the right mood but most of TKOL is always boring.

New post your favorite radiohead albums is post your most boring radiohead albums.

Anyway I enjoyed them when I saw them four years ago, but they certainly didn't make my "have to see them every time they come within three states" list. Hope they're good when I see them in June.

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009


Paperhouse posted:

counterpoint:



I have been watching this all day and I cannot stop laughing

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

That's how Thom Yorke walks to the shops. I've seen him. It's because of all the diseases.

Look, Bends Thom would never have done that. Why? Because da Bends got no soul.

Popcorn fucked around with this message at Apr 17, 2012 around 18:36

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

AircraftNoise posted:

As opposed to an EP with 8 tracks, the first track of which is literally a 2 chord song. The final track features a repeating 3-4 second drumloop for nearly 5 minutes and is also a 2 chord song.

No, but The Bends its totally boring in comparison.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Repetition is not equivalent to boring. Sure, High and Dry has a couple more chords than Staircase, but it's still a thousand times more generic and by the numbers. It's also coincidentally more repettitive than Bloom or Staircase as its verse-chorus-verse structure is completely standard pop song 101 poo poo. Also Bloom is more than two chords, via all the implied melodies and harmonies that the various instruments are performing. A machine could have written High and Dry.

Now obviously this is hard to argue in absolute terms, but there is a lot more to any music piece than song lengths/track numbers, number of chords. I'm not crazy about King of Limbs by any means, but there is a lot more going on in any one of those tracks from that album than anything on The Bends. It's just that most of those things are atmospheric or textural instead of a catchy vocal hook or guitar riff.

the Bunt fucked around with this message at Apr 17, 2012 around 21:19

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


You don't need a bunch of chords to make a good song. Idioteque is based on one ascending chord pattern, and that only turns up every so often. No-one with a pulse could ever think Idioteque is boring.

Another Person
Oct 20, 2010

"Maybe one day you make a good general."


I am an album orientated rock guy, I always try to listen to albums as a whole if possible and don't pick out specific songs and just listen to them. But I have to admit it, Fake Plastic Trees is the third track for The Bends on my iPod. There is no other place I even do that. It actually made the album better.

AircraftNoise
May 9, 2008


the Bunt posted:

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Repetition is not equivalent to boring. Sure, High and Dry has a couple more chords than Staircase, but it's still a thousand times more generic and by the numbers. It's also coincidentally more repettitive than Bloom or Staircase as its verse-chorus-verse structure is completely standard pop song 101 poo poo. Also Bloom is more than two chords, via all the implied melodies and harmonies that the various instruments are performing. A machine could have written High and Dry.

Now obviously this is hard to argue in absolute terms, but there is a lot more to any music piece than song lengths/track numbers, number of chords. I'm not crazy about King of Limbs by any means, but there is a lot more going on in any one of those tracks from that album than anything on The Bends. It's just that most of those things are atmospheric or textural instead of a catchy vocal hook or guitar riff.

Fair enough point; I admit that my post was in a passionate response to the claim that the The Bends is boring. I still maintain that Separator is booooooorrrrrring though. TKOL as a whole is a decent album, but its best enjoyed live. The tracks themselves sound so much better recorded live too (think The Basement). I cant even listen to the TKOL EP anymore, I have to listen to The Basement version of the album.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

I think Separator is really boring too. That and Codex are some of the weakest songs the band has written since...well, The Bends :P. King of Limbs is only marginally better than The Bends to me. It mostly gets by on just sheer adventurousness and experimentation. It's one of those albums I can respect and appreciate it exists but I never really feel like listening to most of it.

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001


It's not an EP, stop saying that. Why am I even responding to this? It's obviously why you're calling it an EP-- so that someone will challenge you.

AircraftNoise
May 9, 2008


How about calling it a very long EP. Or perhaps a very short LP. Cmon, dont take it too seriously.

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003



Mexico City got some awesome songs

Setlist
01 Bloom
02 15 Step
03 Airbag
04 Staircase
05 The Gloaming
06 Morning Mr Magpie
07 Supercollider
08 I Might Be Wrong
09 Nude
10 Reckoner
11 Identikit
12 Little By Little
13 Lotus Flower
14 There There
15 Feral
16 Idioteque
———
17 You And Whose Army?
18 Kid A
19 Exit Music (for a film) (tour debut)
20 Paranoid Android
———
21 Give Up The Ghost
22 Planet Telex
23 Street Spirit (Fade Out)

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004



Codex is easily one of the best songs Radiohead has ever written. Also,

ZoDiAC_ posted:

Mexico City got some awesome songs

Setlist
09 Nude
10 Reckoner
11 Identikit

This must have been an amazing 15 minutes.

Jizznastics
Apr 1, 2012
irritating


ZoDiAC_ posted:

17 You And Whose Army?
18 Kid A
19 Exit Music (for a film) (tour debut)
20 Paranoid Android
———
21 Give Up The Ghost
22 Planet Telex
23 Street Spirit (Fade Out)

Holy Dicks thats good

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003



There There followed by Feral!

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

I've been watching concert videos from the early 2000s and good god I wish Thom would cut his hair. He looks so much better with short hair, but if he'd just get rid of the ponytail that'd be awesome.

Normally I wouldn't give a poo poo, but it's actually distracting how weird he looks with it.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


Mahlertov Cocktail posted:

I've been watching concert videos from the early 2000s and good god I wish Thom would cut his hair. He looks so much better with short hair, but if he'd just get rid of the ponytail that'd be awesome.

Normally I wouldn't give a poo poo, but it's actually distracting how weird he looks with it.

Look, man, it's Thom Yorke, yeah? If he's got stupid hair at the moment, it's because it's for a reason - and once you figure out what that is, it'll blow your loving mind...

89
Feb 24, 2006
Now Broadcasting His Greatness in 87 Countries

Holy poo poo, with all of the crazy stuff they are playing at all of these shows, I can't wait for Radiohead @ Bonnaroo.

Big kicker? Could have changed by now, but back when they played in 2006, Thom Yorke said Bonnaroo was his favorite show

quote:

"We did this festival called Bonnaroo. We did 2,5 hours. And there’s 80,0000 people, admittedly they’ve been smoking the sticky green all day, probably wouldn’t go anywhere anyway. It was just amazing. We played loads of new stuff. We did whole sections of quiet piano songs and it sounds like the most grotesque self-indulgent nonsense but it probably is my favourite gig for years and years and years."

loving BRING IT AT BONNAROO 2012, RADIOHEAD!!

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001


If anything, it looks more honest than the hairpiece or transplant that he was rocking a few years ago.

edit: this was regarding the ponytail.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:


89 posted:

Holy poo poo, with all of the crazy stuff they are playing at all of these shows, I can't wait for Radiohead @ Bonnaroo.

Big kicker? Could have changed by now, but back when they played in 2006, Thom Yorke said Bonnaroo was his favorite show


loving BRING IT AT BONNAROO 2012, RADIOHEAD!!

Thom Yorke actually said, "Smoking the sticky green"? These words escaped his lips at some point?

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

I always assumed that nobody got down with the chronic except Ed!

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003



A few of them, Phil and Colin I think, went to the grammys on shrooms

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

As everyone knows itt, I am bffff with Thom irl, and we spend every Sunday afternoon honking shrooms and whacking on ultraveinous speedy pillbombs. He loves it!

Sabs.
Apr 10, 2009


Just heard Bonnaroo will be streamed this year. YEAH!

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ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003



Here is Mexico Night One. Quality isn't great mind
Part 1
Link 2

And here's some Mexican page collecting Youtube videos of Night 2

Coachella happened, no reliable links yet as they're pissy about their poo poo

quote:

Setlist
01 Bloom
02 15 Step
03 Morning Mr Magpie
04 Staircase
05 The Gloaming
06 Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
07 Pyramid Song
08 You And Whose Army?
09 Nude
10 Kid A
11 Lotus Flower
12 There There
13 Karma Police
14 Feral
15 Idioteque
———
16 House Of Cards
17 Reckoner
18 Bodysnatchers
———
19 Give Up The Ghost
20 Exit Music (for a film)
21 Paranoid Android

Decent setlist. House of Cards bores the tits off me personally. You and Whose Army getting an airing again is cool.

ZoDiAC_ fucked around with this message at Apr 22, 2012 around 16:01

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