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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

Himuro posted:

I take it Usopp will drop his sniping when he becomes this giant.

He will actually singlehandedly win the final fight by slingshotting the Thousand Sunny into Blackbeard's entire crew.

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Supeerme
Sep 13, 2010


Can someone tell me why Davy back Fight is terrible? Is it due to the anime? (Where does it start? I forgotten about it.)

Millions
Sep 13, 2007

Time may change me
But I can't trace time


Supeerme posted:

Can someone tell me why Davy back Fight is terrible? Is it due to the anime? (Where does it start? I forgotten about it.)

It actually owns.



The problem with the Davy Back Fight in the anime is that it came right after the G-8 arc, which was entirely filler. Then the Davy Back Fight itself was stretched into even MORE filler, when in the manga it was supposed to be a quick, fun side-adventure before returning to more serious things (Water 7 arc). It doesn't help that Foxy returned later in the anime, signaling even more filler, so a lot of people who primarily watched the anime associate him with that. The anime also removed the first meeting with Aokiji, which was a great ending to the Davy Back Fight.

Millions fucked around with this message at Mar 20, 2012 around 12:52

Spiffster
Oct 6, 2009


Millions posted:

The anime also removed the first meeting with Aokiji, which was a great ending to the Davy Back Fight.

Wait what? I know for a fact Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro got their butts handed to them by Aokiji shortly after their encounter with Foxy in the anime.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


Spiffster posted:

Wait what? I know for a fact Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro got their butts handed to them by Aokiji shortly after their encounter with Foxy in the anime.

It still happened, but they inserted some filler in between so they were no longer part of the same arc.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

heh


Drakkel posted:

It still happened, but they inserted some filler in between so they were no longer part of the same arc.

I actually think that's one of the times that the anime improved over the manga. I mean, freezing the ocean to help a shipwrecked group of people on an uninhabited island reach civilization again makes a lot more sense than freezing the ocean because an old guy wanted to catch up with his family or something.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Eh, on the other hand freezing the sea between two nearby islands makes a smidge more sense than freezing a huge chunk of ocean that'd take days to traverse to the next island.

I mean, how many ships would inadvertedly end up frozen in place and what the gently caress would the paople on aforementioned island think when the sea suddenly freezes? It seems hella irresponsible, and Aokiji is one of the marines that seems to care about avoiding collateral damage.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Captain Invictus posted:

Davy Back Fight DAVY BACK FIGHT DAVY BACK FIGHT

Ahahahaha, no.

The worst part about the Davy Back Fight is that the G8 arc, which is entirely filler, is better than the Davy Back Fight, which is primarily canon.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Some Numbers posted:

Ahahahaha, no.

The worst part about the Davy Back Fight is that the G8 arc, which is entirely filler, is better than the Davy Back Fight, which is primarily canon.

Anime Davy Back Fight is more filler than canon, though.

Ryaomon
Mar 19, 2007

Yare yare daze...

DBF owns gently caress the haters.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Pureauthor posted:

Anime Davy Back Fight is more filler than canon, though.

A fair point, as even the first game was filler-expanded.

Advice
Feb 17, 2007

Je veux ton amour
Et je veux ton revanche
Je veux ton amour
I don't wanna be friends


Yeah I don't understand the hate for the DBF. It canonically gave us the Groggy Ring fight, one of Zoro and Sanji's most badass moments (they beat a giant motherfuckers), Zoro telling Chopper to man the gently caress up, and it working, and possibly the best 1v1 fruit on the planet in the hands of an incompetent split head who just wants to play games with other crews. The anime poo poo on it, but I think they poo poo harder on the Paramount War arc or Enies Lobby, and those arcs aren't universally hated.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

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Davy Back Fight in the manga is a great mini-arc before the far more serious Water 7/Enies Lobby. It's a good "breather" arc, never overstays its welcome and is endlessly entertaining.

Davy Back Fight in the anime is painful tedium.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

These Gauls are crazy.


Who can bring themselves to hate the arc which brings us Afro Luffy (and Usopp's Wisdom On Afros)?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Amppelix posted:

Who can bring themselves to hate the arc which brings us Afro Luffy (and Usopp's Wisdom On Afros)?

That's the EXACT reason I hate that arc.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

It costs you four hundred thousand dollars to change this avatar...for twelve seconds.

You racist against afros, son?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

No, I just don't think they're nearly as entertaining as Oda does.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Some Numbers posted:

No, I just don't think they're nearly as entertaining as Oda does.

I think part of that may have to do with translation and cultural perspective issues. Some of it is because those translating it apparently didn't "get" it. Which is why we initially had the mistranslation where people thought it was Oda talking about "black people being super strong and their afros give them power" which is just stupid.

Oda says "Does the Champ wear the Afro, or does the Afro make the Champ? The mythical power within Afros is a mystery to science even today." Oda is referring to a very specific few Japanese boxers here.



The line is without a doubt a reference and tribute to Yoko Gushiken (left), a Ryukyuan champion boxer who had great fame in Japan, and who wore an afro. He's still popular in Japan, and quite a number of boxers emulate his style as a tribute (right).

He is a major cultural icon, and the imagery associated with him being "a champ" is the core of the reference.

Zorak fucked around with this message at Mar 21, 2012 around 01:08

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Zorak posted:


Oda says "Does the Champs wear Afros, or does the Afro make the champ? The mythical power within Afros is a mystery to science even today." Oda is referring to a very specific few Japanese boxers here.



The line is without a doubt a reference and tribute to Yoko Gushiken (left), a Ryukyuan champion boxer who had great fame in Japan, and who wore an afro. He's still popular in Japan, and quite a number of boxers emulate his style as a tribute (right).

He is a major cultural icon, and the imagery associated with him being "a champ" is the core of the reference.



Ah, that explains why Riki of RRR also wore an Afro.

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011


Well I've learned something today! This makes a lot more sense than Oda just looking at his assistants and saying "Why are blacks so powerful?"

d[-.-]b
Aug 1, 2004

my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG


Is this why Mr. Satan has an afro?

rock2much
Feb 6, 2004



Scratchman Apoo posted:

Well I've learned something today! This makes a lot more sense than Oda just looking at his assistants and saying "Why are blacks so powerful?"

Imagining this happen in a loud and slightly annoyed voice is hilarious.

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004



d[-.-]b posted:

Is this why Mr. Satan has an afro?
Probably, they look so similar, even down to that mustache.

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011




I don't know how official this is. Oh well.

Kegslayer
Jul 23, 2007


It's from the next exhibit in Tokyo and was apparently done by Oda himself so I'd say it's pretty legit. There's also a funky 3D thing as well.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010


Wait, exhibit? Where would this be and when is it happening?

Millions
Sep 13, 2007

Time may change me
But I can't trace time


That's a huge goddamn bounty, Ace

d[-.-]b
Aug 1, 2004

my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG


Confirmed - Big Mam's bounty ends in a zero, two, six, eight, or nine.

Waterbed
Jun 27, 2008

hugs for all


d[-.-]b posted:

Confirmed - Big Mam's bounty ends in a zero, two, six, eight, or nine.

It also has at least five digits!

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Millions posted:

That's a huge goddamn bounty, Ace

Chalk it up to Oda saluting a popular character who'll never appear again and the fact that he's the first logia-bounty we've seen


because i cant remember crocodiles

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Nilbop posted:

Chalk it up to Oda saluting a popular character who'll never appear again and the fact that he's the first logia-bounty we've seen


because i cant remember crocodiles

81,000,000.

I am a huge One Piece nerd.

Eight-Six
Oct 26, 2007


Nilbop posted:


because i cant remember crocodiles

81 million

e: f,b.

Pretty low compared to the rest, but then I remembered that Hancock's was only 80 million (and then of course Blackbeard at 0 when he joined ), and really both of them became Shichibukai before their bounties were effectively put on hold because of their position. Without said status, let the inflation fly.

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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Curses! Foppied again!


Mihawk cannot beat buggy as a swordsman, even with Haki.

I will explain, the Chop Chop Fruit does nothing to stop buggy from being cut, he is merely not hurt by it, you can use haki to boost the force of your attack as much as you want, but it won't actually hurt him. Luffy is rubber, and rubber has a breaking point so you can pump an attack up enough to hurt him through his stretchy gum gum powers. Haki can make a logia able to be hit, but you can already hit buggy so that doesn't matter, also he is a paramecia type which as demostrated with luffy can still use their powers even when affected by the ocean, see the fight vs arlong where luffy was stuck underwater in concrete and they pull his head above water to get him some air, so you could cut buggys head off while he was in sea stone cuffs and it shouldn't actually do anything to him because of his paramecia fruit. Cutting is literally useless against him.

Mo Tzu
Apr 9, 2011

STOP TALKING!!!!!


What if he hits him with the blunt side of the sword? That's still deadly.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010


or it could just be that Mihawk was barely even trying since he kinda liked Luffy and warlords in general really hate their job.

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011


If there was an absolute worst devil fruit I wonder what it would be. I'm starting to think Brook's because it would take so long to have any real use.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Scratchman Apoo posted:

If there was an absolute worst devil fruit I wonder what it would be. I'm starting to think Brook's because it would take so long to have any real use.

Yes, the worst devil fruit is... immortality

Nobody in history has ever wanted that.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Scratchman Apoo posted:

If there was an absolute worst devil fruit I wonder what it would be. I'm starting to think Brook's because it would take so long to have any real use.

I'm sure there are ones out there that have outright negative properties, like the No-Arm Fruit.

There's got to be some sort of bogus fruit to negate the Giraffe-Giraffe Fruit.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

The Cow-Cow Fruit: Giraffe model gives you super-human strength and vitality, at the least. Granted, you have to turn into a half-giraffe, but it's a small price to pay.

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Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011


Zorak posted:

Yes, the worst devil fruit is... immortality

Nobody in history has ever wanted that.

I thought it was confirmed it just gave you a second life which would also end. What if you die of old age? Wouldn't that just be worthless?

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