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Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I think watching the anime is worth it sometimes. It really depends. Sometimes the anime works, sometimes it doesn't but the experience is much better when watched in bulk as opposed to weekly. The Sabaody and Amazon Lily arcs were fantastic, for instance, but Impel Down and Marineford lost most of their tension. That being said, once Ace is freed the anime rendition of the arc picks up a lot and seeing it animated is a complete joy.

The anime has been great post-time skip for some reason.

I think the anime is worth watching so long as you read the manga alongside it. Otherwise, it will be torture. Watching both in tandem, however, somehow manages to compliment whatever gaps the other is missing, and I think doing this enhances the One Piece experience.

I honestly can't understand being anime only, but reading the manga and watching the anime are both some of my highlights of the week.

Himuro fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2012 around 09:49

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

It costs you four hundred thousand dollars to change this avatar...for twelve seconds.

Mystic Mongol posted:

I saw Strong World and I couldn't stand it. I couldn't take it seriously after Luffy and co walked into the evil pirate stronghold with the cannons.

"Hah! Those stupid strawhats have shown up, with cannons!"

"Yes, and we're going to defeat you all."

"Defeat us all? How stupid! How could you possibly do that."

"With these cannons!"

"Hah! You'll never do that, and we have swords, so we're just going to laugh at you."

"Now we are pointing the cannons at you."

"So what? Cannons aren't dangerous and neither are you."

"Gonna shoot you any second."

"Malarky! We'll just chill here on the balcony and laugh at you OH GOD WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING US WITH CANNONS AH IT HURTS SO MUCH NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!"


Counterpoint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aew1Guqufww

MeinGott
May 23, 2009

~im from space ya dig~


Himuro posted:

The anime has been great post-time skip for some reason.

I loving this poo poo over here

SGRaaize
Jan 19, 2011
DONT YOU DARE TELL ME HOW THE FUCK TO HAVE FUN IN VIDEOGAMES!!! OR TO READ THE FUCKING OP!!!!

Himuro posted:

I think watching the anime is worth it sometimes. It really depends. Sometimes the anime works, sometimes it doesn't but the experience is much better when watched in bulk as opposed to weekly. The Sabaody and Amazon Lily arcs were fantastic, for instance, but Impel Down and Marineford lost most of their tension. That being said, once Ace is freed the anime rendition of the arc picks up a lot and seeing it animated is a complete joy.

The anime has been great post-time skip for some reason.

I think the anime is worth watching so long as you read the manga alongside it. Otherwise, it will be torture. Watching both in tandem, however, somehow manages to compliment whatever gaps the other is missing, and I think doing this enhances the One Piece experience.

I honestly can't understand being anime only, but reading the manga and watching the anime are both some of my highlights of the week.

I watch the Anime purely because I started with the Anime and then read the Manga, so, gently caress, I watched 500 episodes, I might as well watch one per week from that point forward.

But I really, really don't recommend anyone to do so. There are few moments where the Anime is worth it. You should just probably watch Strong World to see the voice acting and then check the soundtrack on Youtube.

If you really must check the Anime out to go along with the Manga, get ready for a lot of torture, especially if you read the Manga before the Anime, which means you will start noticing even more how it drags on for thousands of years.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I don't think the anime is that bad. It depends on the arc. Sometimes they drag, but sometimes I like the little details they add.

The problem is, I think, that One Piece's manga is what I consider to be one of the top 5 comics of all time. Meanwhile, the anime wouldn't even be in my top 20 favorite animes.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Mystic Mongol posted:

I saw Strong World and I couldn't stand it. I couldn't take it seriously after Luffy and co walked into the evil pirate stronghold with the cannons.

Counterpoint:

We're talking about One Piece.

Mystic Mongol posted:

take it seriously

These two things do not necessarily overlap. This is generally not a bad thing.

Niddhogg
May 8, 2004

Doom accepts nothing less than the VIP room.

Mystic Mongol posted:

I couldn't take it seriously

Did you take it seriously when the guy ate a magic banana and turned into a giraffe?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE WILL NOTICE HULK

Captain Invictus posted:

Counterpoint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aew1Guqufww

Come now, if you're going to do that then it's got to be this version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylGAEai7iI

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


Amorphous Blob posted:

Could this be the island where Oars died? His froze to death because he was only wearing a loin cloth, so maybe he wandered from the hot section to the cold one.

Oars died like a hundred years ago. The island has seemingly only been condemned for four years, so we can assume it probably wasn't this level of hell a hundred years ago. Plus it'd make no sense that just because Oars died there there'd be another dead Oars there still.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

SGRaaize posted:

But I really, really don't recommend anyone to do so. There are few moments where the Anime is worth it. You should just probably watch Strong World to see the voice acting and then check the soundtrack on Youtube.

If you really must check the Anime out to go along with the Manga, get ready for a lot of torture, especially if you read the Manga before the Anime, which means you will start noticing even more how it drags on for thousands of years.

Wow, I really disagree. The anime doesn't start dragging until Enies Lobby and the adaptations of Arabasta and Water 7 are incredibly well-done.

Also, the anime has G8, which is the greatest filler arc and all the scans are terrible until after Skypiea anyway.

The only issue with that part of the anime is the rest of the filler, which is pretty putrid.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

It costs you four hundred thousand dollars to change this avatar...for twelve seconds.

Gyges posted:

Come now, if you're going to do that then it's got to be this version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylGAEai7iI
I specifically didn't link it because that is the one that always gets linked. Also it is poo poo quality.

appletonoutcast
May 31, 2007

Om nom nom nom nom nom

Don't know how this wasn't posted yet, but Oda showed in the latest SBS a picture of the major marines when they were kids.


loving Garp man.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Looks like Akainu is gonna have a tragic childhood flashback at some point.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Nice to see Kizaru was always a stoner.

GoatLord
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!


Poor Brooke, if he had drawn a lucky straw instead of Ussop her could have finally seen Robin's panties.

KoB
Apr 30, 2009


Mystic Mongol posted:

I saw Strong World and I couldn't stand it. I couldn't take it seriously after Luffy and co walked into the evil pirate stronghold with the cannons.

"Hah! Those stupid strawhats have shown up, with cannons!"

"Yes, and we're going to defeat you all."

"Defeat us all? How stupid! How could you possibly do that."

"With these cannons!"

"Hah! You'll never do that, and we have swords, so we're just going to laugh at you."

"Now we are pointing the cannons at you."

"So what? Cannons aren't dangerous and neither are you."

"Gonna shoot you any second."

"Malarky! We'll just chill here on the balcony and laugh at you OH GOD WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING US WITH CANNONS AH IT HURTS SO MUCH NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!"


Do you hate Beams and adventure too?

Prison Warden
Oct 29, 2011

Everyone in the world should have heard of my feats by now.


Ramble time!

I'm pretty down on anime adaptations of ongoing manga in general. You always have issues when the story catches up of the pacing becoming really unbearable, and an incredible amount of filler that is impossible to stand. Which is a shame because seeing stuff animated, especially in an action heavy series like this, is always a treat when it is done well. And the way the anime industry budgeting works means that the animation is really inconsistent at times.

The One Piece anime suffers from this of course, but I generally find it pretty good, and it is really strong in a few areas. The anime team and voice actors are REALLY on point with the humour and characterisation as the series goes on, and some of the little jokes and flairs they add are great (the whole Sogeking sequence springs to mind). I think the Funi dub also does a great job, I think all the character voices are great (although I hear a lot of people critising the chick who does Luffy, I think it's perfect) and is really worth watching if you like a dub. Way better than that other dub anyways. Too bad I have to get it imported, stupid international copyright laws.

That said, there are problems with the anime, the filler is generally pretty poor (except G8 that rocks) and always seems to involve a weird little girl for some reason. And they, quite frankly, ruined the impel Down arc in the anime, I can barely stand to watch that garbage even though it is, obviously, one of my favourite arcs in the whole comic. Cant speak to the parts after Impel Down because I stopped watching my shounen animes altogether around that time.

But yeah, since timeskip, the anime has been pretty loving spot on. The whole sequence where Luffy and co escape from Shabondy is phenomenal.

I love Garp as a kid, genetics are a powerful force.

Prison Warden fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2012 around 19:11

dazoner
May 17, 2006

White People!

Prison Warden posted:


I love Garp as a kid, genetics are a powerful force.

Ha Ha, For a second I was wondering what Luffy was doing on a Tiger.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


The worst part of the anime in my opinion is the Whitebeard War. It drags and drags, and how many goddamn times do we need to see Ace react to something? I honestly wish when it's all said and done that someone would go back and basically do to the series what someone did for DBZ when they did Kai... Except leave Water 8 in it because honestly it's worthy of being canon.

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011


Liar posted:

The worst part of the anime in my opinion is the Whitebeard War. It drags and drags, and how many goddamn times do we need to see Ace react to something? I honestly wish when it's all said and done that someone would go back and basically do to the series what someone did for DBZ when they did Kai... Except leave Water 8 in it because honestly it's worthy of being canon.

Actually someone on Arlong Park did edit down all of Marineford into about fourteen episodes. I would link it here but I assume that would fall under file sharing.

edit: And I just found this, someone asked the English voice actor for Sanji to record a couple lines and made something with it. Pretty neat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIifHV0ldY

Scratchman Apoo fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2012 around 20:12

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


appletonoutcast posted:

Don't know how this wasn't posted yet, but Oda showed in the latest SBS a picture of the major marines when they were kids.


Every SBS should just be characters as kids. These are great!

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE WILL NOTICE HULK

Liar posted:

The worst part of the anime in my opinion is the Whitebeard War. It drags and drags, and how many goddamn times do we need to see Ace react to something? I honestly wish when it's all said and done that someone would go back and basically do to the series what someone did for DBZ when they did Kai... Except leave Water 8 in it because honestly it's worthy of being canon.

Ace reacting to every little thing under the sun wasn't nearly as bad as the fact that Marineford is apparently the size of Florida in the Anime. Keeping in mind that Ace is being held in Tampa and Whitebeard's fleet lands in Jacksonville.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

heh


Honestly, I think the anime used to be far, far superior to the manga, for quite a while.

And by "quite a while", I mean I would read the manga, and see stuff like Chopper's Monster Point for the first time, and it was great, but then the anime would come along and put the manga to shame; the combination of music, voices, and animation created a moment that had far more weight, tension and emotion than the manga was capable of creating.

That was around episode 300, which is the cutoff point, for me, because after that, the manga hasn't be beaten yet, since they hosed up the climax to Enies Lobby by animating it like poo poo, bungled Merry's farewell by going so over the top with it, (I stopped crying and started laughing when that stupid pop song started up) and then they switched from animating multiply chapters per episode to animating one chapter per episode, which just rapes the pacing.

They've gotten better at making the anime fit the manga, mostly cause the manga is so jam packed with stuff that they barely need any filler, but there are still moments like when they meet King Neptune, which was maybe two pages in the manga, but when it was animated it had everyone standing around slack jawed for a solid two minutes, which was pretty loving bad, though far from the worst the anime has done. (the worst being basically the entirety of the Marineford War)

Anyway, that's the anime today, but the anime when it started was easily the best way to experience One Piece; the filler was reasonably short and often awesome, (extra time spent in Lougetown, more Davy Back fight, the G8 arc, hanging around with Ace in Arabasta) they changed poo poo around to make more sense or to make for better viewing, (like the first time they meet Aokiji, in the manga, he agrees to freeze the entire ocean for one dude who isn't in trouble or anything, he just wants to see his family, while in the anime, he freezes the ocean for a shipwrecked group of 30 something tourists who are trapped on an island with no way to survive, or how about when Luffy met Coby, in the manga it's on a random island, while in the anime it's during a pirate raid on a civilian ship, which paints a much better picture of this being a pirates world) and they made such excellent use of already great music to make some incredibly memorable moments. (gently caress, do I even need to name examples?)

So, yeah, when I recommend One Piece to people, I tell them to check out the anime till episode 300, then fall back on the manga, because after 300, the anime fucks up the climax of the best arc and then starts to change how it's made in all the wrong ways.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

CG: IT'S ME AGAIN, ASSHOLE
CG: THE ONE WHO HATES YOU, REMEMBER?


I like the anime's intro a bit better (basically the first couple of arcs), since it feels a bit more refined version of the manga. Luffy himself is a bit more of a mysterious figure, which gave a bit more impact to the eventual Shanks flashback. The filler arcs still sucked, but they were short and the canon stuff was pretty much perfect.

The filler really is bad though, which is why I dropped it after Arabasta. I still watch it every now and then for key dramatic moments though.

SGRaaize
Jan 19, 2011
DONT YOU DARE TELL ME HOW THE FUCK TO HAVE FUN IN VIDEOGAMES!!! OR TO READ THE FUCKING OP!!!!

Not only was Marineford incredibly small, you didn't get the feeling there was a battle going on, it didn't give this feeling of colossal battle, because we always only saw about 10 people fighting at once. And it was always incredibly spaced out. Yet another department where the Anime hosed up miserably.

But yeah, Impel Down is the worst culprit, I remember defending it by saying "Well, I mean, they're probably just saving space to then go ape-poo poo on the War, that's no big deal", and then they hosed the War almost as badly, gently caress you, Toei.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Impel Down had its moments. The problem is that in the manga it had a brisk, fast pace. In the anime it was incredibly drawn out. The manga part was great because of the tension and the fact that the locations went by relatively quick.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

what even the heck


I don't much care about the anime, but the Bink's Sake episode is mandatory viewing. You'd might as well just skip the manga chapter entirely, that's how vital the episode is.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


SatansBestBuddy posted:

And by "quite a while", I mean I would read the manga, and see stuff like Chopper's Monster Point for the first time, and it was great, but then the anime would come along and put the manga to shame; the combination of music, voices, and animation created a moment that had far more weight, tension and emotion than the manga was capable of creating.

This I agree with you with. I don't give a poo poo about watching regular running around in the anime, but when it comes to seeing the fights the anime excels. Let's face it, the manga can't compete because the manga can only show you a still image and leave it up to your imagination. So it's a picture of Luffy punching someone in the face vs. Luffy steaming, glowing red, moving at 1000 mph, with awesome music going, while punching someone in the face 1000000 times.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Liar posted:

This I agree with you with. I don't give a poo poo about watching regular running around in the anime, but when it comes to seeing the fights the anime excels. Let's face it, the manga can't compete because the manga can only show you a still image and leave it up to your imagination. So it's a picture of Luffy punching someone in the face vs. Luffy steaming, glowing red, moving at 1000 mph, with awesome music going, while punching someone in the face 1000000 times.

Mandatory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtKQ3x52toc

I
Aug 4, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post


GoatLord posted:

Poor Brooke, if he had drawn a lucky straw instead of Ussop her could have finally seen Robin's panties.
If it was Sanji, he would have bled to death.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I think Sanji's nosebleeding days are over. He's cured!

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010


Now that I think about it, aren't all of Usopp's new attacks plant based? If that's so then he really drew the shot straw on this one since all of his plants might burn up instantly due to the heat and fire everywhere.

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ13HaQfxZc This should also be required viewing.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

who's this LITTLE SPAGHETTI?? ??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfpr...feature=related Also this. And all of G8. There's a lot of good moments in this show.

MeinGott
May 23, 2009

~im from space ya dig~


So I ended up watching about 7 episodes of the post time-skip anime and really enjoyed it. Definitely going to watch the rest of it and see how it goes. I don't think I'm going to come close to watching all of the anime but I do watch to check out a few battles. Enel, any of Kuma, Oars vs Luffy, Alabasta etc

I only felt the manga dragged on a few places. I don't know what it was but I did struggle a bit through the Skypia arc. None of the people before Enel interested me in anyway so it was a bit tedious reading that.

Himuro
Jan 13, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


MeinGott posted:

So I ended up watching about 7 episodes of the post time-skip anime and really enjoyed it. Definitely going to watch the rest of it and see how it goes. I don't think I'm going to come close to watching all of the anime but I do watch to check out a few battles. Enel, any of Kuma, Oars vs Luffy, Alabasta etc

I only felt the manga dragged on a few places. I don't know what it was but I did struggle a bit through the Skypia arc. None of the people before Enel interested me in anyway so it was a bit tedious reading that.

Don't forget this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idwSp0oSEbQ

And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGvbvZY90U

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...

SgtSteel91 posted:

Now that I think about it, aren't all of Usopp's new attacks plant based? If that's so then he really drew the shot straw on this one since all of his plants might burn up instantly due to the heat and fire everywhere.

He can always pull some Shaman King bullshit and use plants that just happen to be immune or resistant to heat/cold.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!


This is a manga where we just saw a plant the size of an island that grows fully cooked meals as bait. I don't think a super-heat resistant plant is that farfetched.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


SgtSteel91 posted:

Now that I think about it, aren't all of Usopp's new attacks plant based? If that's so then he really drew the shot straw on this one since all of his plants might burn up instantly due to the heat and fire everywhere.

Usopp always finds a way. Plus he's still a sniper, even if Oda seemingly has no interest in showcasing these. Eventually he has to go hide a mile away and pick off enemies... Most likely while singing.

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Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

Made of people. Stays crunchy in milk.

Rudoku posted:

He can always pull some Shaman King bullshit and use plants that just happen to be immune or resistant to heat/cold.

I'd be pretty drat terrified if somebody shot a twenty foot tall flaming plant at me.

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