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Pearce is in for the friendly v the Netherlands
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 08:51 |
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I love the way idiots/Capello apologists translate "English people expect a half decent showing in a tournament preferably topping a relatively kind group & winning at least one knockout game and maybe playing some decent football" with "LOL ENGLAND FANS THINK THEY SHOULD WIN EVERY TOURNAMENT FUCKEN MORANS"
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 08:52 |
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Modus Trollens posted:Bale is a triffic player, top top player, and we'd love to ave im at England but he's welsh and he's already been capped by them and it'd be disrespectful to naturalize him at this point Bit worried about this... 
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 08:55 |
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England lost in the knockout round because they have worse players than Germany, it's pointless to blame Capello instead of looking to the system for not producing youth of the same caliber that Germany did
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 08:58 |
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Kinda amazed in a way that more people don't find France ethnically cleansing their football program embarassing.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 08:59 |
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The point there though is England shouldn't have been playing Germany in that round, they only did so because they cocked up the group.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:04 |
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tekz posted:Capello had to deal with a poo poo crop of players and a terrible youth system that develops few good prospects, he did well given the circumstances you'll laugh when you hear this but Capello led us to draws against the USA and Algeria in the last WC. And I DO mean WC...!
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:10 |
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Didn't he quit voluntarily because he was unhappy with the FA not letting him choose a massive racist as captain? I mean, whether or not he did a decent job or if the players are any good aren't really what's relevant here. It wasn't Brave English Lions pushing out Jonny Forrin for not winning everything in sight.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:20 |
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Tatty Muncher posted:I love the way idiots/Capello apologists translate "English people expect a half decent showing in a tournament preferably topping a relatively kind group & winning at least one knockout game and maybe playing some decent football" with "LOL ENGLAND FANS THINK THEY SHOULD WIN EVERY TOURNAMENT FUCKEN MORANS" Not really, it's mostly that I think the problem goes much deeper than the manager. No manager in the world will be able to "fix" england with the current crop of players and a boardroom in the FA that would make south italian clubs embarrassed. England are just like Spain were before they got their act together in time to take advantage of Real Madrid and Barcelonas amazing players after decades of underperforming. The ironic thing is that an italian legend like Capello is just what England needs considering they need to get a bunch of cunts that doesnt like each other and have them play as a team and grind out ugly wins because if it's one thing italians know it's that. I still think England could've had a respectable euros campaign with Capello, but I don't think it's fair to blame him for the poor world cup. peanut- posted:Didn't he quit voluntarily because he was unhappy with the FA not letting him choose a massive racist as captain? stinkyhole or not, John Terry haven't been found guilty for anything yet. Innocent until proven guilty and etc...
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:23 |
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euroboy posted:stinkyhole or not, John Terry haven't been found guilty for anything yet. Innocent until proven guilty and etc... Well yes, he's not an Official Racist yet, but the point was more that Capello has quit after an internal political spat, not due to results and he definitely would have been in charge through the Euros otherwise. So essays about how the press have fired another manager for not getting Frank Lampard a World Cup winner's medal are a bit misdirected.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:30 |
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He was only picking players who were performing best when yet again Lampard and Gerrard played at the same time imo
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:30 |
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Byolante posted:Kinda amazed in a way that more people don't find France ethnically cleansing their football program embarassing. My guess is they've got better things to do than get mad with care on someone else's behalf. I'd be happy to discuss this with you in the racism thread
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:33 |
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Byolante posted:Kinda amazed in a way that more people don't find France ethnically cleansing their football program embarassing.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:34 |
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peanut- posted:Well yes, he's not an Official Racist yet, but the point was more that Capello has quit after an internal political spat, not due to results and he definitely would have been in charge through the Euros otherwise. Like I said before, he didn't quit out of support for John Terry, he quit because they undermined his authority by stripping Terry of the captaincy without even consulting him. The team's captaincy absolutely is a footballing issue and should be his responsibility, even if the FA want some say in it for PR purposes. I wouldn't like my boss stepping in and doing my work for me considering he doesn't know how to, but if he tells me he wants something doing differently to how I'm doing it then I'll happily work on it with him. I think that goes for most people.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:46 |
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I don't disagree at all, it was handled appallingly. My point was he didn't quit and wasn't fired because of results on the pitch.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:49 |
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Dudley posted:The point there though is England shouldn't have been playing Germany in that round, they only did so because they cocked up the group. So if they'd beaten Ghana in the first knock-out round it would've been a succesful World Cup? Here's who else made it past the first knock-out round: Germany, Holland, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Uruguay, Paraguay. On that list, there's exactly one team England could beat in 2010.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:49 |
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peanut- posted:I don't disagree at all, it was handled appallingly. My point was he didn't quit and wasn't fired because of results on the pitch. No but to any decent manager, removing their ability to decide who's captain might as well be a sack. There's no way you can manage after that.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:50 |
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The Mash posted:No but to any decent manager, removing their ability to decide who's captain might as well be a sack. There's no way you can manage after that. If he was going to refuse to stand Terry down as Captain then this was inevitable though. While I think the FA made his position untenable, John Terry remaining as England captain was equally untenable for the FA. But the point remains that the massive spiels about how England are laughably deluded and a joke of a team are not really relevant in this instance.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:55 |
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St Evan Echoes posted:Everyone has always known thar France is institutionally racist from top to bottom, so while repulsive, it's not surprising at all. I was responding to the dude who had England as most embrassing team. I thought that France's racism made it more embarassing than Englands idiocy.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 09:55 |
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I'm going to be laughing as Harry Redknapp Tactical Genius fails to make it out of the group stages
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:01 |
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I'm going to be cheering when he takes us to the semis
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:02 |
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The Mash posted:So if they'd beaten Ghana in the first knock-out round it would've been a succesful World Cup?
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:04 |
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hadji murad posted:He'd be stupid to give up what he has done with Tottenham. If he wants to make an asinine move and manage a poor team, why not compare what Venky's is paying and see if its more than the FA. Maybe you didn't get the memo, but Venky's don't actually have much money at all. And even if they did it'd be hard to pay more than the FA do.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:05 |
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im happy he's gone and look forward to seeing the international team still fail with a different and more legible set of excuses to follow
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:06 |
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I think it shouldn't be Harry just to spite all the players that have come out and said that he should be the next manager. Since when do you get to pick your manager? That's probably the reason we don't do well in tournaments. Bunch of self-important pricks.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 10:54 |
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Harry Redknapp posted:I was shocked. I was surprised. We knew he would leave in summer. I didn't expect it to happen now.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:07 |
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Reminder that it was Capello that reinstated John Terry as captain after making a massive farce of the captaincy last time around. After stripping him of the armband over knobbing a mate's ex.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:10 |
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Grayson for England imo
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:29 |
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It would be nice to go 5 minutes without being reminded how much of a joke football governance is in this country
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:35 |
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Eric Cantona posted:Reminder that it was Capello that reinstated John Terry as captain after making a massive farce of the captaincy last time around. After stripping him of the armband over knobbing a mate's ex. That knobbing which has been denied by everyone leading to the papers making the accusation retracting them.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:49 |
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Byolante posted:I was responding to the dude who had England as most embrassing team. I thought that France's racism made it more embarassing than Englands idiocy.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:52 |
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Good for Capello. He no longer has to put up with the rancid squalor that passes for sports journalism in this country, the legion of loving idiots who swallow and trot out all the poo poo fed to them, and the supreme incompetence of the FA. Good luck to him, he's well out of it.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 11:58 |
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hadji murad posted:That knobbing which has been denied by everyone leading to the papers making the accusation retracting them. Yes that one. *papers print unsubstantiated stories about John Terry's private life* *Capello strips Terry of armband* *John Terry charged with doing a racism* *FA remove Terry as captain* "It is wrong to remove the captaincy from him before the case is proven" Ah yes Capello.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:01 |
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St Evan Echoes posted:Oh. Well then yeah, both that and keeping domenech around for six loving years. Umm it's kneejerk idiocy to sack a manager if he does badly in a tournament FYI
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:06 |
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You can still edit that other post to include "incorrectly" JT deserves to be remembered for the horrible things he has done, and possibly the things he may have done after they have been proven.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:09 |
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Stuart Pearce will manage England against Holland, and they will then get a permament manager in asap after that.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:14 |
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Tatty Muncher posted:Umm it's kneejerk idiocy to sack a manager if he does badly in a tournament FYI Yes Domenech's only problem was that he did badly in a tournament
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:16 |
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Eric Cantona posted:Yes that one. Yeah I'm sure Capello did nothing to substantiate them before making his decision, it's not like there's a chance that JT would be more open to his manager and his international teammates/friends than to his good chums the press.
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:18 |
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euroboy posted:Stuart Pearce will manage England against Holland, and they will then get a permament manager in asap after that. Wish they'd just keep Pearce
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| # ? Feb 9, 2012 12:30 |
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| # ? May 25, 2013 22:56 |
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And so it begins...
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