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DOOP posted:If Stekelenburg doesn't make an absolutely class save against Kaka?, Brazil goes up 2-0 and probably win that game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxRE_KiUCw He's not doing all that great in Italy now, so I expect the preferred order of goalkeepers (Stekelenburg > Vorm > Krul) to change.
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TyChan posted:I'm pretty sure the English press and many fans wouldn't tolerate the kind of ultra-organized and low-scoring, defensive style that teams like Greece utilized to achieve results. When you're talking about a "well-managed" team beating better teams, that's usually the result of the kind of grinding that doesn't win a manager a lot of support until a team gets pretty drat far into a tournament. reminder that there are literally ireland fans, fans of ireland, even on this very forum, who believe that giovanni trappatoni should be sacked after taking an irish team not featuring roy keane to a major tournament, all because he has finally fulfilled the dream of creating a team of john o'sheas who win by attrition and gurning
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Chiunque può essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett
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xXlpffrtlXx posted:Managers in international competitions literally Do Not Matter apart from choosing the lads who are coming with him. Yeah.... Things like tactics, providing strong leadership, reinforcing a positive mentality, shielding players from the media, speaking the same language as your players (Capello  ) etc. don't help at all.
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Patient_Toffee posted:I'm constantly amazed by peoples stupid opinions regarding who is and who isn't good enough to play international football, apparently players who are regarded as some of the best in the Premier League aren't good enough. Holland managed to do perfectly fine and reach the final with a backline of Van Der Wiel, Heitinga, Mathijsen and Van Bronckhorst. I'm pretty sure Richards, Jags/Smalling Lescott/Jones Baines/Cole is just as good a backline if it's actually managed properly and the team know what its doing. They're also a team that has handed 55 caps to Andre Ooijer, a player who wasn't really good enough for Blackburn Rovers. Of course, the difference with Holland is that they have De Jong and Van Bommel to protect the defence and control the midfield. England took Gareth Barry, a man who cannot physically run without dying, and left at home more obvious defensive stalwarts such as Lee Cattermole, Karl Henry and Phillip Neville. In retrospect, this was a mistake.
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Cattermole and Henry as defensive midfielders would be incredible to watch, as they proceed to break the entire other team and then get sent off
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Jose posted:Cattermole and Henry as defensive midfielders would be incredible to watch, as they proceed to break the entire other team and then get sent off 9 a side leaves more space for Walcott to kick the ball into and chase it. It could work.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:reminder that there are literally ireland fans, fans of ireland, even on this very forum, who believe that giovanni trappatoni should be sacked after taking an irish team not featuring roy keane to a major tournament, all because he has finally fulfilled the dream of creating a team of john o'sheas who win by attrition and gurning I thought the Ireland fans saying that on this forum were only having a moan and a groan about Trappatoni before he managed to pull qualifying off. It was looking a bit dicey for a while and they weren't scoring, so I can sort-of understand why you'd think a change was necessary. But I can't see the English fans/FA/press being able to tolerate that kind of ultra-disciplined, low-flair style for very long.
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TyChan posted:I thought the Ireland fans saying that on this forum were only having a moan and a groan about Trappatoni before he managed to pull qualifying off. It was looking a bit dicey for a while and they weren't scoring, so I can sort-of understand why you'd think a change was necessary. No, there are plenty of Irishes who have a very real dislike of him and his tactics and want him gone. They also get very angry at him picking certain players time and again over better players who have less John O'Sheaness about them.
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xXlpffrtlXx posted:Managers in international competitions literally Do Not Matter apart from choosing the lads who are coming with him. Domenech completely and utterly mismanaged one of the most talented French squads ever into a pile of absolute dogshit.
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HinderedUseless posted:Domenech completely and utterly mismanaged one of the most talented French squads ever into a pile of absolute dogshit. That WC 2010 squad was not nearly as good as you're describing. It was definitely not on par with WC 2006 or even Euro 2008.
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Holland did well with a crap back line, Uruguay did well with nobodies in midfield, and Ghana did well with poo poo strikers. So may there is hope for England.
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TyChan posted:That WC 2010 squad was not nearly as good as you're describing. It was definitely not on par with WC 2006 or even Euro 2008. They still performed significantly underneath their potential though and it was obvious for years they were being horribly mismanaged
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TyChan posted:That WC 2010 squad was not nearly as good as you're describing. It was definitely not on par with WC 2006 or even Euro 2008. That's sort of my point. He inherited a great squad in 2006, more or less cruised to a world cup final. Then he alienated his best players, made squad choices based on astrology and tried to out-poo poo himself during each subsequent tournament. He also didn't call up quite a bit of very good, newly emerging talent.
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I liked it on the previous page when everyone was talking about a tournament two years ago that is finished but everyone speculated who could win it. Can England win the Euros? Yes. Will they win the Euros? Most likely no. Can any one of the fifteen other teams win the Euros? Yes. Will they? Well, one will. All the other fifteen teams will be bottlers who are poo poo with poo poo players and a poo poo manager and are loving poo poo. Such is international football, is anything else on?
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FullLeatherJacket posted:They also get very angry at him picking certain players time and again over better players who have less John O'Sheaness about them. I do this and I'm not even Irish
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Blue Screen Error posted:I do this and I'm not even Irish youre a good poster but you need to sort your loving avatar out you twat
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Rankine Over Gash posted:I liked it on the previous page when everyone was talking about a tournament two years ago that is finished but everyone speculated who could win it. Well poo poo, why don't you minimalize everything else while you're at it. Anyway, I'll concede Domenech being partly responsible for France collapsing, but the major shitfest there happened when they lost their first game.
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Rankine Over Gash posted:youre a good poster but you need to sort your loving avatar out you twat It used to be alright and then suddenly a bit of stray html found its way into it, blame Radium or someone I dunno. Although now that I look at it I also realise that whoever bought it can't spell 'recipe'.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...isunderstanding Some dude found Capello
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xXlpffrtlXx posted:Four points safe off a play-off spot while going basically solo is not 'barely' qualifying. Had they lost their last match away to Uruguay, which subsequent evidence has suggested they certainly should have, they would've finished 2 points out of it and had to play a Honduras side on a high home and away.
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kri kri posted:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...isunderstanding I think that's the happiest I've seen him since he took the England job.
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quote:"Let's be honest, you would love to have Paul Scholes in the Euros this year," he said. "He'd be in your team, he's that good. Whoever's there would love to take him, I'm sure. You'd love him to play. He plays like the Spaniards, like Xavi [Hernández] or [Andrés] Iniesta. He does not give the ball away." I love Harry Redknapp
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Scholes to captain England to winning the euros '12
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Scholes has actually been really good since coming back, hasn't had a bad game yet. If he wants to go I reckon he should
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A Scholes-Parker partnership in midfield would own for all of a half hour until we are run off the pitch by a surging German side.
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I could see Redknapp picking Dawson/Lennon/Huddlestone in the preliminary squad. I think Walker will be a definite starter and Parker will be captain. 'Arry loves players he knows, and he already knows they are top top lads
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Biggy_ posted:I could see Redknapp picking Dawson/Lennon/Huddlestone in the preliminary squad. I think Walker will be a definite starter and Parker will be captain. if that's true then maybe he will take Carrick 
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Biggy_ posted:I could see Redknapp picking Dawson/Lennon/Huddlestone in the preliminary squad. I think Walker will be a definite starter and Parker will be captain. Don't know if Huddlestone has had enough games, as he's still dealing with injury. I could see Harry trying to get Ledley King in as well, since he wouldn't have to worry about his fitness for Spurs the next season. Even Harry wouldn't pick Walker over Richards. Walker has tons of potential, but he's still very much a work in progress.
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Look at Paul Scholes. Lets be honest, you would love to have PS in the Euros this year. He’d be in your team, he’s that good. Whoever’s there would love to take him I’m sure You’d love him to play. He plays like the Spaniards, like Xavi, or Iniesta - he does not give the ball away. Frank Lampard is still a top player. You write Frank off at your peril. He’s still a top player in my opinion. Stevie Gerrard still a top class player. We have got some good players in our midfield. I think there are some good candidates (for captain). Scott could be. Steven Gerrard is a good candidate as well. Stevie Gerrard a fantastic player. There are one or two who could do it. But Scottie could do it for sure, but so could Steve. There’s good players here, good players in England for sure, good young players. I felt in South Africa was the best chance we had had since 1966 to win with the World Cup. That was my honest opinion. I really could see us winning it, I thought it was a fantastic squad of players. But we were disappointing. I think we have got some good players, but everybody has thought we had good players since ‘66. And we have never achieved anything. That’s the problem. And there have been some good managers in that time.
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appledan posted:Look at Paul Scholes. Lets be honest, you would love to have PS in the Euros this year. He’d be in your team, he’s that good. Whoever’s there would love to take him I’m sure You’d love him to play. He plays like the Spaniards, like Xavi, or Iniesta - he does not give the ball away.
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If there's one thing 'Arry really loves it's an old, experienced player. He's not gonna be the man to shift Lampard, Gerrard and Terry on, especially given that he's related to one of them.
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jamie redknapp will come back into the squad and I'll be glad because we wont have to listen to his godawful punditry
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the sex ghost posted:jamie redknapp will come back into the squad and I'll be glad because we wont have to listen to his godawful punditry Him and Joe Cole will score 1 great goal and then break
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Is there any way Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard successfully could play together? I don't watch a lot of Sky 4 so I couldn't tell you if they can tackle or anything
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willie mckay is, even as we speak, frantically negotiating with the clubs of all his young players to get a 'bonus payment' triggered by international caps
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Breath Ray posted:Is there any way Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard successfully could play together? I don't watch a lot of Sky 4 so I couldn't tell you if they can tackle or anything no
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Breath Ray posted:Is there any way Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard successfully could play together? I don't watch a lot of Sky 4 so I couldn't tell you if they can tackle or anything Sure you put Scholes on the left wing and
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Eric Cantona posted:Sure you put Scholes on the left wing and and have Gerrard and Lampard alternating defensive duties. Beckham on the right.
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Ok thanks. Then I am 100% behind this appointment. Thanks again
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Mick McCarthy's available now.
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I am the law, but an easily bribed kind of law.
