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Ninpo: Aug 6, 2004; My best moment? I have a lot of good moments but the one I prefer is when I kicked the hooligan. I didn't punch him strong enough. I should have punched him harder.

Fat Guy Sexting posted:

He's done all his badges hasn't he?

Yep.

# ? May 14, 2012 13:07

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# ? May 24, 2013 14:16

thehappyprince: Apr 4, 2006; ~^~the wind beneath the cricket thread's wings~^~

Great appointment if true

# ? May 14, 2012 13:09

stickyfngrdboy: Oct 21, 2010; Bitter,
probably

Why? Because he does a reasonable job as a pundit he will be a great coach?

I really don't understand why anyone thinks he's a great pundit either, as it goes. He never says anything a reasonably knowledgeable fan doesn't already know. Compared to the other pundits he looks brilliant, but, well, gently caress. So would you lot.

edit: that doesn't mean you lot would be bad, it means you lot would be as good as Gary Neville, which is okay.

edit2: Just having your badges doesn't mean you're going to be a good coach. This is one area where I'd expect someone to have experience before coaching international players into a major tournament.

stickyfngrdboy fucked around with this message at May 14, 2012 around 13:19

# ? May 14, 2012 13:12

luvd: Sep 29, 2011; don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long

Fantastic appointment IMO.

# ? May 14, 2012 13:26

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

stickyfngrdboy posted:

Why? Because he does a reasonable job as a pundit he will be a great coach?

edit2: Just having your badges doesn't mean you're going to be a good coach. This is one area where I'd expect someone to have experience before coaching international players into a major tournament.

But he'd be an assistant coach, and one who every player in that squad respects and looks up too. Like Carragher he made up for a lack of technical ability and speed by learning to read a game really well and sheer bloody effort. Even beyond being a reasonable pundit, he played 600 games for United, won every club trophy he could and had Fergie helping him take his coaching badges. That's not a bad place to start from.

# ? May 14, 2012 13:27

stickyfngrdboy: Oct 21, 2010; Bitter,
probably

Fat Guy Sexting posted:

But he'd be an assistant coach, and one who every player in that squad respects and looks up too. Like Carragher he made up for a lack of technical ability and speed by learning to read a game really well and sheer bloody effort. Even beyond being a reasonable pundit, he played 600 games for United, won every club trophy he could and had Fergie helping him take his coaching badges. That's not a bad place to start from.

I agree that his playing experiences should be a great base on which to start a coaching career, but again, none of that means he will be any good at all as a coach. I am sure you could think of a manager or two who played under Ferguson for a long long time, played many games under him, and yet aren't quite up to the job themselves. Same goes for coaches.

I have nothing against Neville at all, and think he will probably be a top manager one day. Personally I would prefer to see someone prove their coaching skills elsewhere before they become an international coach.

# ? May 14, 2012 13:38

Mickolution: Oct 1, 2005; I missed the 14-18 war
But not the sorrow afterwards

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Well if his punditry is a guide his tactical knowledge is superb and will be able to actually analyse and advise the players properly but it will be a shame to not have him on the telly.

With Sky not having the tournament, it won't make much difference. Going forward, he'll have plenty of time to do both, I'd imagine. Just hope it doesn't mean more Quinn on Sky.

# ? May 14, 2012 14:48

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; Romantic and Square is Hip and Aware!

VERY happy about the GNev news. His autobiog made it clear he had his head screwed on when it came to international football - pleasure to be part of, but not the be all and end all. Let's hope he can mentor some of the younger players, and also teach some of our right backs like Johnson and Walker about something called 'defending'

# ? May 14, 2012 16:16

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; Romantic and Square is Hip and Aware!

Apropos of nothing, me and the girlfriend (?!) just had a discussion about English players in the two Manchester sides. Could a competitive XI be drawn from their two squads?

Hart; Richards, Smalling, Ferdinand, Lescott; Milner, Scholes, Carrick, Barry, A. Johnson; Rooney

That wouldn't be the worst team in the world, actually...

# ? May 14, 2012 18:16

luvd: Sep 29, 2011; don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long

Speaking of Scholes:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...and-roy-hodgson

Would be v good news IMO

# ? May 14, 2012 18:18

Mickolution: Oct 1, 2005; I missed the 14-18 war
But not the sorrow afterwards

Anyone see the SSN hooligan special report that was just on? It was fairly sensationalised as you'd expect, but interesting none the less.

# ? May 14, 2012 19:03

Pasco: Oct 2, 2010

britishbornandbread posted:

Apropos of nothing, me and the girlfriend (?!) just had a discussion about English players in the two Manchester sides. Could a competitive XI be drawn from their two squads?

Hart; Richards, Smalling, Ferdinand, Lescott; Milner, Scholes, Carrick, Barry, A. Johnson; Rooney

That wouldn't be the worst team in the world, actually...

I think a Manchester combined XI could honestly be our best hope.

# ? May 14, 2012 19:08

Jollzwhin: Oct 13, 2004; Just like watching Brazil

Young over Johnson and that'd probably be good enough to get out the group.

# ? May 14, 2012 19:25

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

It's not surprising that a Manchester XI is a really strong team. Obviously you can do the same for Barca/Madrid, but pick the top two clubs from any country and that's where the majority of your internationals are coming from. The exception would be Brazil and Argentina, but obviously that's not really relevant here.

Hoops fucked around with this message at May 14, 2012 around 19:41

# ? May 14, 2012 19:34

Pasco: Oct 2, 2010

Jollzwhin posted:

Young over Johnson and that'd probably be good enough to get out the group.

Jones for Smalling(injured) and Welbeck for Rooney(suspended) aswell. Probably still good enough to get out of the group.

# ? May 14, 2012 19:37

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; Romantic and Square is Hip and Aware!

give me four million a year please FA thanks

-bbab

# ? May 14, 2012 20:54

Pasco: Oct 2, 2010

britishbornandbread posted:

give me four million a year please FA thanks

-bbab

Sorry, for that sort of money you need to be able to make the big, tough decisions, like taking Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Downing, Caroll, etc.

# ? May 14, 2012 21:34

Byolante: Mar 23, 2008; Have you accepted the loving embrace of Braith?

Team Anasta

I really have no idea what Shawcross needs to do to get a call up.

# ? May 15, 2012 00:38

Paperhouse: Dec 31, 2008; Legal consent is a tad arbitrary really

Byolante posted:

I really have no idea what Shawcross needs to do to get a call up.

move to a top four club

# ? May 15, 2012 02:13

The Collector: Aug 8, 2011; I visited some dumb thread and all I got was this dumb racist custom title

Hoops posted:

It's not surprising that a Manchester XI is a really strong team. Obviously you can do the same for Barca/Madrid, but pick the top two clubs from any country and that's where the majority of your internationals are coming from. The exception would be Brazil and Argentina, but obviously that's not really relevant here.

Holland? France?

# ? May 15, 2012 02:31

Modus Trollens: Sep 12, 2010; Foreign Myth

The Collector posted:

Holland? France?

Any country that isn't a top four league? (Eng, Spain, Germany, Italy)

# ? May 15, 2012 02:49

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Aren't Holland the only team where their starting 11 during the world cup where every single starter was playing at a different club?

# ? May 15, 2012 05:03

Loving Africa Chaps: Dec 3, 2007; We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Byolante posted:

I really have no idea what Shawcross needs to do to get a call up.

Be good.

# ? May 15, 2012 08:09

belgend: Mar 6, 2008; That's really funny,
u can hear me laugh
ha ha ha ha

Hey EMNT fans, you've got an opportunity to see these people at Wemberley when we get there:

code:

GK
Thibaut Courtois 	Atletico Madrid (Spa)
Jean-Fran�ois Gillet 	Bologna (Ita)
Simon Mignolet 	        Sunderland (Eng)

DF
Toby Alderweireld 	Ajax (Ned)
Vincent Kompany 	Manchester City (Eng)
Nicolas Lombaerts 	Zenit (Rus)
Denis Odoi 	        Anderlecht
Daniel Van Buyten 	Bayern M�nchen (Ger)
Thomas Vermaelen 	Arsenal (Eng)
Jan Vertonghen 	        Ajax (Ned)

MF
Nacer Chadli 	        Twente (Ned)
Steven Defour 	        Porto (Por)
Moussa Dembele 	        Fulham (Eng)
Marouane Fellaini 	Everton (Eng)
Guillaume Gillet 	Anderlecht
Eden Hazard 	        LOSC (Fra)
Dries Mertens 	        PSV (Ned)
Radja Nainggolan 	Cagliari (Ita)
Timmy Simons 	        N�rnberg (Ger)
Axel Witsel 	        Benfica (Por)

FW
Christian Benteke 	Racing Genk
Igor De Camargo 	M�nchengladbach (Ger)
Benjamin De Ceulaer 	Lokeren
Romelu Lukaku 	        Chelsea (Eng)
Kevin Mirallas 	        Olympiakos (Gre)
Jelle Vossen 	        Racing Genk

# ? May 15, 2012 10:45

luvd: Sep 29, 2011; don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Be good.

this + not play for a bunch of cloggers

# ? May 15, 2012 11:43

jyrka: Jan 21, 2005; Potato Count: 2 small potatoes

belgend posted:

Hey EMNT fans, you've got an opportunity to see these people at Wemberley when we get there:

A pretty impressive group of 'potential.'

# ? May 15, 2012 11:44

Jollzwhin: Oct 13, 2004; Just like watching Brazil

Ah Kompany gets the chance to tap up his team mate

# ? May 15, 2012 12:01

Smeef: Aug 15, 2003; Als zij langs loopt...

drat Belgium's gotta pretty good team all of a sudden

# ? May 15, 2012 12:18

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011; Jozy loves scoring like a fat kid loves eating cake.

Smeef posted:

drat Belgium's gotta pretty good team all of a sudden

Seriously.

code:

            Courtois

RB   Kompany   Vermaelen   Vertonghen

Dembele Fellaini Witsel Hazard

         Lukaku Someone

Is pretty great, and I probably forgot some good players because I'm not familiar with everyone in the squad.

# ? May 15, 2012 13:30

Pasco: Oct 2, 2010

belgend posted:

Hey EMNT fans, you've got an opportunity to see these people at Wemberley when we get there:

drat, that is a pretty loving good squad, shame they won't be at Euro 2012 but a big future for Belgium.

# ? May 15, 2012 17:30

Mickolution: Oct 1, 2005; I missed the 14-18 war
But not the sorrow afterwards

We've been hearing that for a while though, haven't we? Isn't there lots of division in the squad or something?

# ? May 15, 2012 17:33

luvd: Sep 29, 2011; don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long

vyelkin posted:

Seriously.
code:
            Courtois

RB   Kompany   Vermaelen   Vertonghen

Dembele Fellaini Witsel Hazard

         Lukaku Someone
Is pretty great, and I probably forgot some good players because I'm not familiar with everyone in the squad.

Defour is pretty great IMO.

# ? May 15, 2012 17:34

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Smeef posted:

drat Belgium's gotta pretty good team all of a sudden

Yeah. How did Belgium miss out on Euro? Boggling

# ? May 15, 2012 17:54

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Mickolution posted:

We've been hearing that for a while though, haven't we? Isn't there lots of division in the squad or something?

It's been like that for a while iirc? Like pretty much Belgium is really two countries within one state from what I hear like the dutch and french speaking halves seriously do not get along.

# ? May 15, 2012 18:00

Mickolution: Oct 1, 2005; I missed the 14-18 war
But not the sorrow afterwards

Yeah, the country is supposedly very divided and I remember hearing the same about the national team I think.

# ? May 15, 2012 18:03

belgend: Mar 6, 2008; That's really funny,
u can hear me laugh
ha ha ha ha

Oh Em Gee posted:

It's been like that for a while iirc? Like pretty much Belgium is really two countries within one state from what I hear like the dutch and french speaking halves seriously do not get along.

Mickolution posted:

Yeah, the country is supposedly very divided and I remember hearing the same about the national team I think.

lmao, get a better news source because drat

DOOP posted:

Yeah. How did Belgium miss out on Euro? Boggling

1) No decent wingbacks
2) Some of the players being cunts and not giving it all during Belge matches (coughhazardcough)
3) No striker who can poach in all the goals like we used to have (ex. Nilis, Sonck)
4) Bailly turned to poo poo in the first half of the 2012 qualifiers
5) We hosed it up in Azerbaijan, vs Austria and vs Turkey.

# ? May 15, 2012 18:16

nictigre03: Oct 31, 2011

You could say the Belgian national team form waffles from time to time.

Sorry, I had to.

# ? May 15, 2012 18:50

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; Romantic and Square is Hip and Aware!

whole lotta belgium talk in this thread

not happy

# ? May 15, 2012 19:21

nictigre03: Oct 31, 2011

britishbornandbread posted:

whole lotta belgium talk in this thread

not happy

Well no coaches have quit and Terry hasn't assaulted anyone til this weekend. When is the friendly versus Belgium anyway?

# ? May 15, 2012 19:28

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# ? May 24, 2013 14:16

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nictigre03 posted:

You could say the Belgian national team form waffles from time to time.

edit: wrong thread

# ? May 15, 2012 19:55

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