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FishBulb posted:Nah I don't agree with any of that. By watching something even passively you are participating in it, and plenty of games don't offer choice. Besides even if games aren't "Art" (and I don't care eithe way so let's not open that bag of worms) they are still consumer entertainment at the least and you still aren't guaranteed to like every piece of consumer entertainment you buy and nobody expects that stuff to change at the whims of the fans like I said before so nah I just completely disagree. I think Bioware opened itself up to this kind of thing more than most companies would, and the main reason can be traced back to the last thing you see in ME3:  I would have a harder time with changing the ending if said ending weren't immediately followed by a commercial for more content that completely ignores the ending, and Bioware's made bank off of getting people to be invested in post-release content that largely ignores whatever story their games have already told, so they kind of set up the avenue that allows customers to complain about their ability to change poo poo. That said, I dunno. At this point the whole thing is just kind of gross to me. Fans were right to complain and Bioware was right to stick to its guns, but creepy protesting fans and marketing reps figuring out how to make the most money off of this whole thing just makes it uncomfortable and depressing.
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I, too, am mad that people are upset because something they like didn't end the way they wanted.
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:I, too, am mad that people are upset because something they like didn't end the way they wanted. Ah yes, the "Sopranos" syndrome.
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BAN DICKEYE posted:i like super mario bros 2 more than super mario bros 3 I feel sorry for you, since Mario 2 didn't even start out as a Mario game.
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smashpro1 posted:I feel sorry for you, since Mario 2 didn't even start out as a Mario game. Oh, I'm sorry, do you call the game the USA got in '88 "Super Mario Bros 2"? I call it Doki Mario Bros, nub.
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smashpro1 posted:I feel sorry for you, since Mario 2 didn't even start out as a Mario game. You're right, it started out as A DREAM. Also Mario 2 was my favorite as well, if only because the P.A.L. I went to as a kid had an old-rear end NES-Game Arcade unit (I don't even know how that existed) that had Bubble Bobble, Mario 2, Balloon Fight, and the Mario VS. stage as a game (did this exist outside of this arcade machine?)
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:I, too, am mad that people are upset because something they like didn't end the way they wanted. I just keep shaking my head in disbelief at the level of violent nerd rage and the sincere demands that BW go back and create more content that changes the game they already made. Mass Effect was an awesome series and ME3 was an awesome game that had a very bad ending. The bad part of ME3 is about 10 minutes long. They tried to do something cool and they failed, it's definitely a disappointment but people act like it was some sort of personal insult. I just can't grasp how this can be such a Big loving Deal.
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Thermos H Christ posted:I just keep shaking my head in disbelief at the level of violent nerd rage and the sincere demands that BW go back and create more content that changes the game they already made. Mass Effect was an awesome series and ME3 was an awesome game that had a very bad ending. Uh because Bioware is going to create more content for the game and sell it anyway so why not make content people actually want to see (i.e. not such a lovely ending) and make a fat load of money?
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To change the subject a bit, loving Skyrim is just making GBS threads dragons at me. Every time I fast travel anywhere I am greeted by 2 dragons. It's ridiculous. I mean, I'm level 50 so they are cake but it's mildly tedious.
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FishBulb posted:To change the subject a bit, loving Skyrim is just making GBS threads dragons at me. Every time I fast travel anywhere I am greeted by 2 dragons. It's ridiculous. I mean, I'm level 50 so they are cake but it's mildly tedious. I think they definitely jacked up the rate of dragon attacks in the last patch, because I get the same whenever I fast travel around too.
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CarlCX posted:I think Bioware opened itself up to this kind of thing more than most companies would, and the main reason can be traced back to the last thing you see in ME3: Jesus Christ that's real? 
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RandolphCarter posted:Jesus Christ that's real? It's really not as scummy as it might look out of context. It just means that after the credits roll you're taken back to before you passed the point of no return and played the end stage. That way you don't have to start a new game if you want to go back and do sidequests and stuff that you didn't do on your initial runthrough. And when new DLC missions become available you can play them with your leveled-up character.
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Hiram posted:Has anyone picked up Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City? I was thinking about getting it for my birthday this Friday. I was going to get it... but then I've heard from my friends that it loving sucks.
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I played the first Mass Effect when it came out and really enjoyed it. I've held off on playing 2 until 3 came out so I could finish the saga back-to-back style, but the minor spoilers I've read that none of your gameplay decisions ultimately matter has given me pause and I'm considering not investing any time (or money) on it as a result. If Bioware does something that offers more closure and a more satisfying "ending" then I'm back on board, which amounts to a least two more sales for them. I had no idea that Tali became some kind of nerd sex symbol to the Internet. In my play through I was horrible to her, accusing her of tampering with the engines and stealing stuff to take back to her people every chance I got. It was great.  Edit: I guess the lines have been drawn. You're either on Team "Let's gently caress With Tali" or Team "Let's gently caress Tali." I say screw that scavenging space ho. T3hRen3gade fucked around with this message at Mar 21, 2012 around 22:18 |
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Well if you're on team gently caress with Tali, then you should definitely play ME3, because hoo boy, do you get to.
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FishBulb posted:To change the subject a bit, loving Skyrim is just making GBS threads dragons at me. Every time I fast travel anywhere I am greeted by 2 dragons. It's ridiculous. I mean, I'm level 50 so they are cake but it's mildly tedious. Oh yeah, when does that update that lets you suplex people come out? I'll buy the game for that.
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Bocc Kob posted:Oh yeah, when does that update that lets you suplex people come out? I'll buy the game for that. 1.5 Patch is out now on Steam. Probably be out in a week or two for console.
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Wait, what? You can suplex people in Skyrim? I need details.
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The new patch is adding new execution moves, and the hand-to-hand ones are wrestling moves.
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CVagts posted:Wait, what? You can suplex people in Skyrim? I need details. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MhKpl5h4U They added a bunch of new Kill Cams in the new patch. One of the new ones for unarmed is a German suplex, and another looks like when Rampage spiked Bader at UFC 144 edit: what cardboard said
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Who fights unarmed in Skyrim? I mean, I totally will NOW
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welp, so much for me selling Skyrim. Now I'm gonna have to make a pro wrestler and suplex everyone all the time now.
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People are demanding Bioware to make DLC to fix their lovely ending. Bethesda gives us suplexes for free.
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FishBulb posted:Who fights unarmed in Skyrim? This guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw
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Lloyd Boner posted:People are demanding Bioware to make DLC to fix their lovely ending. Bethesda gives us suplexes for free. They still make soulless sandbox games though. RIP Obsidian. 
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Everything sucks all the time fart fart
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we shouldn't want our video games to be better than mediocre because toys can't be good and nerds are losers superfart
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Hiram posted:Has anyone picked up Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City? I was thinking about getting it for my birthday this Friday. I did, played it for hours at a friends house, liked it so much that I bought my own copy and I'm borrowing my brother's 360 to play it. Campaign is serviceable and the multi is amazing since you have to worry about more than just the people running around. quote:Nobody really expects the Wachowski brothers to go back and change the end of the Matrix, even though its terrible, everyone hates the way Stephen King ended the Dark Tower right? Would have depended on the fan outcry at the time, fan outcry was huge when they killed Sherlock Holmes, so much that he was brought back in another book, to my knowledge this is the first time such a thing has happened in the gaming medium.
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Role Play McMurphy posted:we shouldn't want our video games to be better than mediocre because toys can't be good and nerds are losers superfart There is nothing wrong with wanting things to be better but there is a point where you just become a cycnical rear end in a top hat that hates everything that everybody can't stand because your constant complaining about how nothing is perfect makes you insufferable. I know, I was that rear end in a top hat for years. I try to be a little more accepting now. I mean some people were saying they wanted to suplex dudes in Skyrim and you respond with 'too bad skyrim is bad  ' Thats a great piece of input on the subject thanks for that.Alteisen posted:Would have depended on the fan outcry at the time, fan outcry was huge when they killed Sherlock Holmes, so much that he was brought back in another book, to my knowledge this is the first time such a thing has happened in the gaming medium. And I would think that was a terrible decision of Doyle's and would prefer that games don't go down that road. FishBulb fucked around with this message at Mar 22, 2012 around 01:08 |
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FishBulb posted:There is nothing wrong with wanting things to be better but there is a point where you just become a cycnical rear end in a top hat that hates everything that everybody can't stand because your constant complaining about how nothing is perfect makes you insufferable. I know, I was that rear end in a top hat for years. I try to be a little more accepting now. Seems like you just changed your target from "games" to "gamers," really.
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Role Play McMurphy posted:Seems like you just changed your target from "games" to "gamers," really. Hey I hate whiny comic book fans too. Probably more than whiny gamers. Both are tremendously insufferable though.
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Spoilers: Dragons were the ultimate solution to man creating too many buckets for me to shout at.
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The new animations for my unarmed character are gonna be awesome. I can't wait until that patch comes out for consoles.
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:Spoilers: Dragons were the ultimate solution to man creating too many buckets for me to shout at. You caused quite a stir out behind the Battle Born estate when you demonstrated the power of your Thu'um on their carefully arranged buckets.
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If there was a rap sheet in Skyrim, mine would be nothing but murder and "shouted a plate/bucket/platter into a noble's face"
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CVagts posted:If there was a rap sheet in Skyrim, mine would be nothing but murder and "shouted a plate/bucket/platter into a noble's face" I think my bumper button was messed up, it would sometimes shout randomly. Always when I was in the middle of a town too, poor terrified villagers
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You can kill people by screaming buckets at them? 
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Actually, BioWare doesn't need to do the ending anymore. This is pretty much all anyone wanted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=vG4EyfXOTJ4
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TAKE MY 5 DOLLARS CORY some guy that works at Bioware is named Cory right?
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quote:Road Dogg revealed on Twitter that the New Age Outlaws will be featured in THQ's WWE '13. When asked about the upcoming video game, which is rumored to focus on "Attitude Era" stars, he responded, "Already did the voiceovers." He added that Billy Gunn was involved with the process.
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