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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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We also have a WH2K steam group, but I don't think anyone uses it.

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:

He attempted suicide or something in Mexico after he found out he has HIV or Hep-C or some poo poo and has grown up a lot since then.

The suicide attempt was because he hit his girlfriend at the time, Ryan Shamrock. He tried to hang himself, and she stopped him.

Later he found he had Hep C, but I think it went into remission. Recently he got caught with carrying prescription pills without prescription.

He was also raped as a kid. He's had a hosed up life.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Hey. Tomorrow.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Bocc Kob posted:

Or never if you think EA is the devil and BioWare is terrible.

I think both these things, but I'm still getting the game and I'm still excited. Help?

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

I am a grown rear end man going to the midnight launch of ME3.

I am ashamed of myself.

You should be. I'm ashamed you don't play on PC and I am gonna have to smh at you.

Oh look at me, I go to midnight launches and interact with people and have fun, rather than sitting around in my room waiting for Origin to unlock the game. SMH.

Reminder that the goon run Mass Effect Saves 2 has got you covered if you're a dummy who deleted his ME2 save, or if you never played ME2. http://www.masseffect2saves.com/

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

Gonna just sit there and go "hey look I can play a game with my friends instead of hanging around a store with a bunch of furries and football players".

Football players are gonna get Mass Effect?

edit: good to see you back on Twitter btw

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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If BioWare ever finds themselves in dire financial straits, they could make some drat good money making a straight up eroge. Don't bet against it happening!

It would still be better in every way - including combat, somehow - than the absolute shitheap that was DA2.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

I am not trying to whiteknight DA2, I just am genuinely curious why it gets Daikatana levels of hatred.

I really don't want to turn this thread into, to coin a phrase, a BioWare shame bukkake, but I'll explain very briefly the issues I have with DA2. The BioWare thread in Games should probably suffice is more than this is needed.

From a storytelling perspective, and I mean as far as the simplest, most basic storytelling principles are concerned, Dragon Age 2 is all wrong. All wrong, just loving all wrong entirely. Everything is telling instead of showing, and your companions are razor-thin Whedon archetypes, fulfilling your preferred niche - waifu, angst-riddled "change the world" dude, bad boy with a heart of gold, promiscuous girl (who will, in time, fall in love with you and only you).

Then there's the actual gameplay, featuring perhaps the worst combat system to hit RPGs in a half decade or more. Waves of enemies teleport in, and the entire battle mechanic is built around doing area of effect damage, since your teammates can't be hurt by your attacks. There's no strategy to it - just clump up and cast a giant swirling inferno on your PC. Enemies who try to attack you will take damage and die, as you stand triumphant. And don't get me started on rogues loving teleporting.

So the storytelling is terrible, and the gameplay impossibly worse. It's a game predicated on the idea of personal choice and freedom, but is instead replete with "BUT THOU MUST" railroading. The devs talked endlessly about how your actions would shape the city over the seven years of the game, but you literally make no difference whatsoever. The characters are, with a couple of exceptions, terrible, and the romances are creepier than anything else BioWare has ever done.

There is nothing good about the game, except that it might serve as an example of what not to do. Sure, DA2 was rushed out the door, but when everything about the game is conceptually and in practice abysmal, no amount of time could have saved it.

And Dragon Age 1 remains among my favorite games ever. And gently caress yeah Mass Effect 3 is gonna rule.

In summation:



Mike Laidlaw was the lead programmer for the game.



Sheryl Chee was a writer for Dragon Age 2.

And I always like to quote this Weekend Web done of the BioWare Social. http://www.somethingawful.com/d/wee...rums.php?page=1

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

One complaint about DA2 that never gets brought up though is that it takes place over ten years and none of the characters visually age.

Someone on BioWare Social brought this up to David Gaider (head writer of DA2, person who said Twilight was great fiction), and his response was to completely ignore the question and just respond with "7 years". A pity if you didn't follow the Dragon Age 2 thread in Games back when the game was in development. It was so amazing to see how imbecilic the devs could be, in the way they would attack and condescend to their fanbase, and in the way they presented their awful ideas.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Mass Effect 3 is the best game ever, despite the cloying and terrible and awful and wretched loving dream sequence JESUS CHRIST.

This game is so fun! <3

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Mass Effect 3 is loving awesome, honestly my Favorite Game Ever at this point, but it's also frustrating as all loving hell. BioWare, by the loving grace of god generally remembered how to write again, but then they throw just the dumbest loving things at you, as though they are testing your will. Spoiler below.

A loving ninja. There is a goddamn crouching, teleporting loving ninja, complete with a loving katana.

And there are dream sequences.


The game is also hilarious, in more than an unintentional way. So many of the incidental conversations actually had me rolling.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Oatgan posted:

In regards to the spoiler boss Man oh man if you want a laugh read the lovely licensed novels he appears in.

Oh I've heard.

It's rather amazing that a company that can otherwise write a tremendous game, casting off so much of their failings in ME2 in the process, can allow in something so shamelessly pandering, out of place, and inarguably terrible. Nothing in ME2 offended me as greatly as this.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Cardboard Box posted:

Hahahahahahahaha

No, I won't be shocked if this doesn't hold up in the third act or during the end run.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Cardboard Box posted:

Trust me I don't judge the writing based on their books.

Goddammit.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Cardboard Box posted:

A few days later:

You have shamed me, Cardboard.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Wow, so ME3's ending sure was worse than anything I anticipated. I don't even have the vitriol to skewer it in writing, it's just so mindblowingly terrible I almost appreciate it.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Glitterbomber posted:

Then I read the spoilers, and I've never felt more justified in being 'that guy' going 'no, this is gonna suck'.

Which brings up such an interesting question, as to whether the journey or the destination is more important. Or, put another way, if a terrible ending completely negates all the fun in the game prior to it.

I'd normally say the journey is paramount, and a terrible ending, while regrettable, shouldn't make you write off the game entirely, but not with Mass Effect.

This game has spanned three installments, each one predicated by your choices making an impact on the world, about trying to foster alliances and gain cooperation between the various races. And while the system has often been more cosmetic than functional, it wasn't hard to buy in and to presume the payoff would come in ME3.

But then nothing mattered. The alliances were essentially worthless, the final battle didn't change depending on who you recruited, it was all forgotten for a modern-day Final Fantasy nonsensical ending. Any decision you ever agonized over was just as well picked at random, because it didn't matter.

And when you have a trilogy like Mass Effect, an ending like that ruins the entire drat series.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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People are starting to dig through the game files, and it's becoming more and more apparent that there was a ton of stuff cut from the ending. Not that that is any great surprise.

Then there's this picture (spoilers), which, though nitpicky, does point out a few hilarious things.

http://i.imgur.com/AXMCD.jpg

And then there's this. http://i.imgur.com/cpLm8.jpg

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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FishBulb posted:

I just don't understand what compels someone who hates something to comb over it for minutia. Do they think that seeing that two backs have the same freckle pattern is going to make someone who likes a game suddenly decide its poo poo? Its such pointless wankery. Ugh.

Because people are weird as hell, doubly so when it comes to hardcore BioWare lovers/haters.

The Tali thing is mystifying more for the fact they decided to give her a face, when the appeal of her character is in people projecting whatever they want on her. But it's whatever on that front.

I can't even imagine how the person figured out the mole thing.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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FishBulb posted:

Honestly I don't think media companies should ever listen to their fans. Let talented people write and create content, let fans consume content. This is why 343 is ruining Halo, hey lets listen to some fans, they have great ideas...

A little listening is fine. There's nothing wrong with involving the fans to a degree, but you have to keep them creatively at several arm's lengths.

That said, BioWare are the masters of utilizing their fanbase for promotional purposes, especially on the Internet. They run all sorts of little contests - if we get 100000 likes by Saturday, we'll unlock a new weapon!, the terrible "War of the Worlds" viral thing they did the day before the game released, etc - but involving and cultivating that audience is necessarily going to make them more vocal, because the fanbase, after all, is being included in the hype. Hell, they're practically part of BioWare, some must think. It breeds entitlement, and BioWare devs have demonstrated a complete inability to remove themselves from the masses, and needlessly placate them.

In essence, a little interaction is fine; using the fans to your advantage in a marketing sense is crafty; writing specifically for those fans is ill advised. I wish they had crowdsourced the ending though, because christ alive there's no way the combined inanity of the BSN could have come up with a worse ending.

coconono posted:

I'm telling you guys, once again, Bioware would make a mint creating dating sim games. That's what these fans REALLY want.

There are totally unsourced, and probably untrue, rumors that BioWare is going to offer a DLC that includes more "romance" scenes between Shepard and your preferred love interest, so if they do this, it might be the first stop on BW finally making an eroge. Why not?

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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^ Yeah, it's no good. It was the first thing I saw that had Tali unmasked, so I just reposted it. I should have found something less supercilious.

The ad was deliberate. BioWare made the ad initially for their tie-in with The Walking Dead, apparently. Whoever made that image either purposefully misrepresented it, or didn't do a Google search for Mass Effect 3 Walking Dead.

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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simosimo posted:

I'm replaying Mass Effect 3 as FemShep to see what all the fuss is about. Pure Renegade of course, gonna try and get max military strength, just to see what stupid cut-scene I can get.

Man the warp to your opponent power is guh-reeat.

I never played Vanguard, but hearing about how awesome Biotic Charge is is making me think about giving it a shot.

On a side note, anyone who has yet to play soldier should consider it. Maxed out Adrenaline Rush is hilarious. Couple it with a Mattock, and you can just walk around out of cover, obliterating your enemies.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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simosimo posted:

I had maxed A.R and I found it a rather pathetic boost. Maybe I was using the wrong ammo=/=enemy but for a maxed out buff, I was like 'cuh mon!'.

drat, really? I did the damage increase at 4, then the duration increase at 5, and I could essentially slaughter everyone with an upgraded Mattock. If you go with a light loadout, you can pretty much reactivate AR after only a second or two of cooldown. It makes for a fun time!

simosimo posted:

Did anyone else loving HATE targeting the reaper destroyer with the paint-laser thing, gently caress that segment. Lets give you no cover. That brought me back to the days of PS1 games where you've just gotta keep retrying and retrying until you do. I suppose modern games have made me into a big man-baby with my gaming difficulties

Everyone I've talked to who mentioned that segment loving hated it. I was embarrassed at how many tries it took me. I've gone soft, too.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

So, after the soul-searching caused by Mass Effect 3's lovely ending. I realized the only good looking game coming out this year is Bioshock: Infinite. poo poo.

Soul search harder. There's a lot of good stuff coming out this year, even if I'm not jazzed about most of it. Here's a few.

Max Payne 3
Borderlands 2
Far Cry 3
Tomb Raider
rear end Creed 3
Darksiders 2

Also, don't go soul searching because of video games.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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CarlCX posted:

Also when I got to the point in ME3 where Space Freddie Prinze Jr. was talking about how his abuela would make huevos rancheroes after too much tequila and mezcal I concluded James Vega sucks.

smashpro1 posted:

I got to the point where Space Freddie Prinze Jr. and the gay shuttle pilot argue about which vehicle (Mako or Hammerhead) is better I concluded James Vega is alright.

Both correct at the same time, somehow.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

What weirded me out about Vega is that apparently the entire universe is united under a single tongue shared by all species and yet somehow this dude still speaks Spanish.

Well how else are you gonna know he's Hispanic if he doesn't say Spanish words?

And everyone doesn't talk the same language or something. I dunno. There's supposedly like universal translator doohickeys in your omnitool or something.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Some ending notes.

The Final Hours of Mass Effect, a behind the scenes documentary on ME3, revealed that Mac Walters literally wrote the ending the way he did so there would be "lots of speculation for everyone". The intent - from conception to conclusion - included the starchild. He/it wasn't some hastily cobbled together thing, but the plan from the onset.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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SR3 was awesome, and the only drawback was that there wasn't more of it.

And the whole mission with the prostitutes.

Strenuous Manflurry
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smashpro1 posted:

Which one? The Ho Boat? The "these hos ain't hos" one?

That's the one.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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FishBulb posted:

I hope they don't change it honestly. Nerds need to learn a lesson.

The lesson being don't complain about poo poo you hate and just accept it, or what? I mean, BioWare gets to make its fans happy by releasing DLC that will probably be the most profitable DLC of all time. Kudos to them, intentional or not.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Oatgan posted:

Nowhere in that statement does it say they are changing the ending just that some fans might possibly get more closure from upcoming DLC. In fact he does everything in his power to avoid saying that the ending is going to change.

Right, he does the same thing HHH did when talking about developmental, but what I'm saying is BioWare has to be planning for DLC to modify the ending at this point, planned or not. It's not an altruistic thing, but an economic one. There's so much buzz about the ending, that DLC (or even an expansion) to fix it would move huge numbers. I mean, the story is getting play on BBC, CNN, all loving over.

coconono posted:

That videos games are supposed to be a diversion, not the focal point in people's lives.

Well nuts to that big man.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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If people want to support BioWare style games, consider supporting the The Banner Saga Kickstarter, made by 3 people from BioWare, one of whom made the hugely well-received LP, Terrible Secret of Animal Crossing. The art style is gorgeous, and 10 bucks gets you chapter 1 of the game, which I believe is looking like a 3 chapter production. Cool little thing.

SA thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3469966

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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smashpro1 posted:

I feel sorry for you, since Mario 2 didn't even start out as a Mario game.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you call the game the USA got in '88 "Super Mario Bros 2"? I call it Doki Mario Bros, nub.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

Spoilers: Dragons were the ultimate solution to man creating too many buckets for me to shout at.

You caused quite a stir out behind the Battle Born estate when you demonstrated the power of your Thu'um on their carefully arranged buckets.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Lone Rogue posted:

Ziggler doesn't do random jackhammers.

And that's why he'll never be as good.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Bocc Kob posted:

Has this thread been linked here yet? I like good RPGs and you should too!

That's a link to Wasteland 2, btw. If the Kickstarter makes 2.1 million or greater, Obsidian Entertainment is going to help develop the title! Support that, and The Banner Saga!

Don't support Your World, a hysterically inept Kickstarter where a globular LOTTERY WINNER is trying to crowdsource an MMO. He is also a Wiccan, and is such a glutton he bought a pizza place and built a new establishment close to his home, so he didn't have to travel to get the pizza he likes.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Kiwi Bigtree posted:

Yawn. Wake me up when Zybourne Clock gets a kickstarter.

Will this make you change your mind?

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

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Cardboard Box posted:

I'm in hysterics over this guy.

He's an ideas man, you see. Coders come a dime a dozen, but true visionaries like Ellwood "Pizza Devourer" Bartlett are what this lazy industry needs in order to shake things up.

Strenuous Manflurry
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Cardboard Box posted:

The 'idea man' and 'an MMO for gamers, by gamers' thing reminds me of this guy who showed up on SA a year or so ago with a similar pitch for a lovely crowdsourced MMO. All I really remember is that the logo he made looked like a sword surrounded by fart clouds.

Crimson Haze! ARCHIVED (or maybe Goldmined?): http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3358114

Forgot a goon made a video parodying it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94v0GgP9-dw

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Sep 5, 2006

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Hello hello. I figured I'd do a Kickstarter update because why the heck not? There's some cool stuff coming up, and some current campaigns are soon to come to an end.

This thread is a better repository of information than I can manage, so check this out: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3473379

First up is the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter, run by sometime PSPoster Quarex, who is probably the biggest fan of Wasteland ever. There's a week to go for this campaign, and since it broke the $2.1 million threshold, Obsidian Entertainment - most pertinently writer god Chris Avellone - are working with InExile to make the game. So you have the people responsible for Wasteland with the people responsible for the Fallout series (other than FO3) working together on the IP. And it can all be yours down the line if you pay $15 now. Cool.

I've already hyped The Banner Saga, but it's worth repeating. 11 days to go, and they've already surpassed their goal 4.5 times over. A goon, namely the dude who wrote The Terrible Secret of Animal Crossing LP, is one of the three guys running the show.

Shadowrun Returns. Shadowrun was cyberpunk before it hit the mainstream, or whatever perch it occupies. I'm actually not too familiar with the series, but the Kickstarter has nearly doubled its goal in only a few days, so that's pretty cool.

If you're an older dude, you probably have fond memories of Leisure Suit Larry, from back when it was a charming and mildly bawdy adventure game, and not whatever in the gently caress it eventually became.

Speaking of adventure games, how about Jane Jensen's Pinkerton Road?. I never played Gabriel Knight, but I guess it's one of the standards of the genre. Plus she's making lovely casual games so help a sister out.

And finally, just to further mock what a terrible Kickstarter this one is, here is terrible MMO idea Your World by wiccan lottery winner Ellwood Bartlett.

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