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Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


NINbuntu 64 posted:

Has this even been confirmed to be a thing that's happening?

Both Sony America and Europe have repeatedly said PS1 Support is coming. Just last week a PS1 game in the UK accidentally went up for Vita, and there's built-in control functionality for PS1 games in the Vita itself. The OP has a link for Sony Europe talking about it in the Backwards Compatibility section.

I personally think Sony's holding onto it for E3.

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RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010


5er posted:

PS1 support is the first thing to hope for. Then, whether or not the PS1 title you want to play is supported, is next.

Not that every one in this thread has a PS3, but aren't PS1 games supported in Remote Play? I thought I read somewhere that they were.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003
Cobra Commander

Mortal Kombat is 3 gigs for anyone wanting to download and wondering about size.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010



IRSmurf posted:



I am so glad I held out on buying a Vita now.

That is, as long as this gets released outside of Japan...

Tamagod Sushi
Oct 26, 2009

I never metaphor I didn't like!

That loving Sned posted:

I am so glad I held out on buying a Vita now.

That is, as long as this gets released outside of Japan...

To be fair that's just a sticker you get for your Vita if you preorder , still kicks rear end though.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


The Japanese are getting a metric ton of those bonuses. The idea, as I gather, is that the Vita itself gets the sticker and the thing on the screen is a wallpaper. I know Persona 4, Metal Gear, Hatsune Miku, and I think Legend of Heroes all have them.

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

Aw hey that's cute.


So how's MK vita?

Captain Novolin
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


Lucinice posted:

So how's MK vita?

I haven't had a chance to try much more than the tutorial, but so far it seems pretty good. The graphics are pretty muddy, but it runs well. My only complaint with the controls is with tags on the right stick it can be hard to pull off assists, but I could get better at that with practice.

E: I am sad I can't do 2-player test your luck, though

Captain Novolin fucked around with this message at May 1, 2012 around 23:14

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!


Feel free to add Var987 if you want to do some MK sometime. I'm surprised how well I can pull off combos with that tiny DPad.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004
Number One In The Hood, G



Policenaut posted:

Here's the North American update as it pertains to you, a Vita owner.

Games
Mortal Kombat ($39.99) [3 GB]

Demos
Sumioni: Demon Arts [288 MB]

Add-Ons
MotorStorm RC "SPECIAL Big Rig - Wombat Wanderer" (Free)
MotorStorm RC "SPECIAL Monster Truck - Nord Hoser" ($0.25)
MotorStorm RC "SPECIAL Muscle Car - Atlas Aero" ($0.25)
MotorStorm RC "SPECIAL Super Car - Voodoo Firecracker" (Free)
MotorStorm RC "VETERAN Muscle Car - Patriot Surger" ($0.49)
MotorStorm RC "VETERAN Rally Car - Italia Gagliano" ($0.49)
Shinobido 2: Revenge of Zen - The Mirror Spirits ($4.99)

Price Drops and Sales
Daxter (Price Drop - $9.99) [1.04 GB]
Dissidia 012 duodecim: Final Fantasy (Price Drop - $19.99) [1.17 GB] Still being advertised from last week
Fading Shadows (Price Drop - $4.99) [301 MB]
God of War: Ghost of Sparta (Price Drop - $19.99) [1.09 GB]
King of Pool (Price Drop - $2.99) [71 MB]
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game (Price Drop - $19.99) [1.38 GB] Again, this is from last week
Monochrome Racing (Price Drop - $2.99) [26 MB]
Urbanix (Price Drop $2.99) [22 MB]
101-in-1 Megamix + Fading Shadows Bundle (Price Drop - $10.99) [712 MB]


What the?! This early? It's like 4 in the afternoon where I am and it usually drops at 7-8!

Sony I'm liking this new "let's get poo poo out earlier" trend you've got going on.

So, that whole discount for digital sales is a nonstarter for MK Vita?

Space Harrier
Apr 19, 2007


Why make memory cards for the Vita so goddamned expensive? Yes, I understand that replacing the expensive, proprietary Memory Stick Duo with the even MORE proprietary and expensive Vita card gets Sony more money up front, but I haven't made many impulse purchases for the Vita because I only have an 8 GB card. I would have totally downloaded Rayman Origins on impulse if I had the space, but I'm reluctant to give up a full gig on my card.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



Space Harrier posted:

Why make memory cards for the Vita so goddamned expensive?

Well when you go with proprietary memory cards you have to add your margin on top of the huge fixed costs of setting up a brand new production line for novel hardware.

I'm not sure what the attachment rate might be for digital games on the Vita, but I imagine it's high enough that Sony's making a dumb decision by making the cards so expensive.

Space Harrier
Apr 19, 2007


If setting up a new production line is so expensive, they could have just used Memory Stick. I highly doubt there is any valid technical reason for the new cards; just an excuse to charge a lot of cash for small amounts of memory.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



Space Harrier posted:

I highly doubt there is any valid technical reason for the new cards; just an excuse to charge a lot of cash for small amounts of memory.

Well yes, it puts them in a position where they can completely control the price of the memory cards without having to worry about competition or market forces.

AxeManiac
Nov 13, 2000

Always Drinking

Vertigus posted:

Well yes, it puts them in a position where they can completely control the price of the memory cards without having to worry about competition or market forces.

So there is no valid reason for the consumer, just the company. Awesome. It is annoying to be running out of hard drive space in this day and age, wish consoles would get over that. A 250GB hard drive is nice, but let's go bigger and better already.

I'm going to wait until they get like a 128GB card that doesn't cost a small fortune and that will decrease my desire to randomly purchase games until it comes out.

Luckily I just mainly play mini games.

Zip
Mar 19, 2006



I finally have money but now I can't decide between mortal kombat or disgea 3.


Or just wait for the pinball arcade expansion.

D is That Guy
Dec 24, 2004

Yo DJ, drop that bass

Zip posted:

I finally have money but now I can't decide between mortal kombat or disgea 3.


Or just wait for the pinball arcade expansion.

I want the pinball arcade expansion. I got the wizard trophy for Black Hole today and now I need another mountain to climb.

Zip
Mar 19, 2006



D is That Guy posted:

I want the pinball arcade expansion. I got the wizard trophy for Black Hole today and now I need another mountain to climb.

ya. plus zen pinball 2 is coming too. I mean it's not very simmy pinball.. but it's still pinball.

Still I keep hearing good things about disgea 3.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



AxeManiac posted:

So there is no valid reason for the consumer, just the company. Awesome.

Well they got internet posters to go along with "It prevents piracy!" for a while but that turned out not to be true at all, and just like the PS3 (that uses completely standard laptop HDDs for storage), the only thing preventing piracy on the platform is good encryption and internal security.

If they had used SD cards there would've been an issue with their varying speeds, but it would've been a net-positive for the consumer if they'd just come out with a branded SD card and claimed any others were unsupported.

Vertigus fucked around with this message at May 2, 2012 around 00:39

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Jesus, Mortal Kombat notation is pretty confusing.

Zip posted:

I finally have money but now I can't decide between mortal kombat or disgea 3.


Or just wait for the pinball arcade expansion.

In a similar boat, I have $40 sitting in my PSN wallet since I did the Future Shop deal to get MK for free and now I don't know whether to blow it on Disgaea 3 or get a Walking Dead PS3 season pass and the new Ridge Racer Silver Pass (and some other middling DLC)

jabro
Mar 25, 2003
Cobra Commander

Policenaut posted:

Jesus, Mortal Kombat notation is pretty confusing.


In a similar boat, I have $40 sitting in my PSN wallet since I did the Future Shop deal to get MK for free and now I don't know whether to blow it on Disgaea 3 or get a Walking Dead PS3 season pass and the new Ridge Racer Silver Pass (and some other middling DLC)

When you talked about Digaea-type games earlier you sounded like you have my opinions on them so buy Disgaea 3 and give a review so I know if I should buy the game. In the meantime I will be unlocking poo poo in MK and remembering how to get my combo timing down.

AboveAndBeyond
Nov 5, 2010



I picked up MK and D3 this afternoon. I have sank more time into D3 cause of MK beating my rear end. I am not good at fighters still


Both are a ton of fun.
Basically, if you wanna slam some buttons, see some gore, and engage in nostalgia, get MK. If you want tactics and silliness, D3.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 3, 2006


MK is fun and playing through story mode gets me good experience with everyone so I can pick a main. I am a little disappointed with the graphics because the cutscenes are done in the console style and then when a fight begins it will quickly switch to the terrible style. During the match it's not noticeable, but for cutscenes it is kind of jarring.

Also, boobs.

Dr. Ohnoman
Jan 6, 2011

I'm the director and this is the director's cut



Gah, why aren't the PSP Burnout games (Dominator and Legends) in the PS Store? I just remembered those existed and wanted to try some old-school Burnout racing on the Vita, but I guess I won't be doing that then.

EDIT: Well, Burnout Dominator is in the store but doesn't show up when you're using it on the Vita. Giant Bomb is saying it should work if you download it onto the PS3 first, but a bunch of people on various forums are saying that it doesn't show up in the content transfer.

Dr. Ohnoman fucked around with this message at May 2, 2012 around 02:30

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting


I'm deathly afraid of MK because I played it on 360, even got an arcade stick because gently caress YEAH I'M GETTING INTO FIGHTERS and in story mode got my rear end handed to me by Kintaro and GOD DAMNIT once I beat him Shao Kahn shows me I'm awful at anything that isn't a JRPG.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



flyboi posted:

I'm deathly afraid of MK because I played it on 360, even got an arcade stick because gently caress YEAH I'M GETTING INTO FIGHTERS and in story mode got my rear end handed to me by Kintaro and GOD DAMNIT once I beat him Shao Kahn shows me I'm awful at anything that isn't a JRPG.

I didn't like the story mode in MK because it forced you to switch up characters, often making you fight multiple times in a row as somebody you detested.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting


Vertigus posted:

I didn't like the story mode in MK because it forced you to switch up characters, often making you fight multiple times in a row as somebody you detested.

YES. I am awful with Liu Kang.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


I've been having a pretty okay time in practice mode. I found I liked Smoke so I'm learning some of his combos.

You might want to try the major Mortal Kombat site Test Your Might. Their forums have guides for every character and can help you figure out stuff.

BrownThunder
Oct 26, 2005



If you want a cheap, good game for Vita, I found Patapon 2 vouchers on Amazon for about $5. It takes a couple days to arrive via Amazon Prime, but Patapon 2 is definitely worth $5.

http://www.amazon.com/Patapon-Downl...35925672&sr=8-1

Also, adding people for Mortal Kombat. PSN is BrownThunder85 if you beat me to it!

Captain Novolin
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


You can bump the story difficulty down in options, and the game is pretty good about scaling things down if you keep losing.

The challenge towers are where it's at, though.

Puddin
Apr 8, 2004
Leave it to Brak

All this Mortals Kombat talk has reminded me how awesome The IT Crowd season 2 dvd menus are.

If you own it and never left the main screen running you really owe it to yourself to go do so now.

For those too lazy, It's basically the MK character select screen with the dance mk theme ripoff playing.

Instead of "Test your might/MORTAL KOMBAT! " they say "Have you tried,TURNING IT ON AND OFF AGAIN! "

When you leave it running longer it actually goes into sprite character versions of each character in fights with each other, Renholm almost always nut punches whoever he is fighting.

The first time I saw it in must have watched the menus for like 30 minutes before actually watching an episode.

Just the thought went into the menus is awesome.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Okay, wow, totally glad I got this. Just handed Shao Kahn his rear end with Smoke thanks to a few 30% combos So who wants to play?

Yechezkel
Oct 5, 2004



Black Ops 2 trailer aired on TNT a few minutes ago. No logos of consoles or portables were displayed in the end.

BrownThunder
Oct 26, 2005



Added the tags in the thread I saw for MK. I've also got Pinball if anyone wants to HS compete in that. Or Hot Shots Golf. Or Unit 13. Been getting a lot of use out of this little guy since I quit one job and have a nice 2 week vacation until I start my new one.

Tried to add you, Policenaut but you're too popular apparently Something about privacy settings.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


BrownThunder posted:

Added the tags in the thread I saw for MK. I've also got Pinball if anyone wants to HS compete in that. Or Hot Shots Golf. Or Unit 13. Been getting a lot of use out of this little guy since I quit one job and have a nice 2 week vacation until I start my new one.

Tried to add you, Policenaut but you're too popular apparently Something about privacy settings.

Weird! I don't think I'm at the max, let me just mess around with this and I'll try adding you.

Space Harrier
Apr 19, 2007


Do most PSP games work on the Vita even if they have to be transferred from a PS3? Having a hard time finding a good answer on this. How many games don't show up or flat out refuse to run if transferred from a PS3?

AxeManiac
Nov 13, 2000

Always Drinking

Space Harrier posted:

Do most PSP games work on the Vita even if they have to be transferred from a PS3? Having a hard time finding a good answer on this. How many games don't show up or flat out refuse to run if transferred from a PS3?

I haven't had a problem with any PSP title, but I didn't try many. The support for those seem to be greater than the support for minis.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



Space Harrier posted:

Do most PSP games work on the Vita even if they have to be transferred from a PS3? Having a hard time finding a good answer on this. How many games don't show up or flat out refuse to run if transferred from a PS3?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums...ad.php?t=316058

Can someone throw this into the OP or something? The question comes up on almost every page.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Vertigus posted:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums...ad.php?t=316058

Can someone throw this into the OP or something? The question comes up on almost every page.

On it. Throwing it into Backwards Compatibility.

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Captain Novolin
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


If you already have a Vita and you have any interest in fighting games at all, for the love of god buy Mortal Kombat. The graphics aren't the greatest, but it's hard to notice it in action, and it has some of the best use of the touchscreen I've ever seen. There's fruit ninja with organs and severed heads. You can do touchscreen fatalities super easily, and there's a TON of single-player content if you can't get online. The Vita's D-pad is absolutely fantastic and it makes the game control really, really well. I just wish it wasn't such a battery vampire.

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