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hitension posted:A greater percentage of Chinese women work than in Canada, the US, even Sweden (?!) and many other countries: Don't be tricked by the figures. As a Chinese woman myself, I am glad to tell you some undoubted truth beneath the list of statistics. The only explanation to a greater percentage of Chinese women work is that they HAVE TO. Unlike many western countries where women can choose whether or not to work, its mostly a must in China. Under most situations, the income of one person is not enough to support the whole family. If you ask the Chinese women what would you rather be, a housewife or a a working mother? More women would say a housewife. Being a housewife in china means that her husband is able to earn enough money to support the family, correspondingly a higher social status. As a housewife, the woman only need to shop, cook, wash，have fun with the other housewives, help the husband and educate the children(洗衣做饭，相夫教子), rather than dealing with all these chaos after a whole day's work. Working women in China don't see work an access to social contacts outside of the home, earning one's own income, spending less time on unpaid labor. On the contrary, its an extra burden. Woman being a housewife is a better thing for the family even from Chinese men's perspective. if you ask Chinese men: If the family can gain a good financial situation by your own income, you prefer a staying at home wife or a working one? Most would tell you a housewife. yes, they will. You see, chinese women have never thought about the work or not work question, of course I will work, what am I going to eat if I don't work(maybe a bit exaggerated). If only I have had a good husband so that I don't need work! Like the estate market, the percentage of working chinese women is abnormally high. If the economy situation in china were better, this figure would not have been so high, it will be close to the other Confucius countries. If the economy went even better in the future, woman would begin to realize, like what more western is realizing, that I need to work, I chose to work so that I can make my own money, have some social contact with others. The thought that Chinese women are enjoying higher social status is a bit naive. Given no other choices, the % becomes meaningless. Being able to choose work or not work is the real thing that matters.
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Quota itself is of the most sexist phenomena. This is whats going on in the men's mind: Few women are interested in the politics or running the country and they are not be able to get seats by themselves, but we do need some women to make the congress looks bit more colorful. Let's give them quota, only for decoration, they are harmless and mute anyway. another sexist phenomenon: If a woman's name were to appear in any government paper, her gender must be indicated. It goes like this 李小花（女）. Aren't they human? Are they cats? The brackets make the name quite absurd. I really hate this, what on earth makes female politicians(officials actually) so special that the names have to be followed by brackets indicating their gender?
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eSports Chaebol posted:Chairman Mao: By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things. They give birth to children and our children are too many. (Laughter) Are these the actual transcripts? Whether nor not the transcripts are real, the topic is about population rather than women(Its Chinese people's different way of talking). and I don't think Mao was kidding with Kissinger about the population problem. During the 1950s, Ma Yinchu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Yinchu presented his New Population Theory and warned that further population growth at such high rates would be detrimental to China's development. Therefore, he advocated government control of fertility. Of course, Mao didn't like his talk. His theory was seen an evil scheme to discredit the superiority of socialism, and show contempt for the people. When Kissinger visited China(1971), I think Mao have realized Ma's theory was very right and he had made a mistake by letting the population go. As the large population was retarding the development, impairing its interests. Mao is an arrogant man, he wont admit his mistake, but deep inside Mao must feel sorry for this. Ma is the grandfather of "One Child Policy".
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hitension posted:but don't overestimate how great Western society must be just because it's different. I really appreciate that you speak so highly of the feminism in china, can we add this part in the Human Rights Report? I end up talking to school dropouts, stall owners, children of farmers in the dull countryside, who certainly don't represent the grad students, young professionals etc in major cities. Neither do they. http://www.chinawhisper.com/%E2%80%9Clady%E2%80%9D-class-is-hot-among-china-female-graduates My anecdotes may not be progressive, I may not fit in, I may overreact about this women talk, but staying in the metropolises doesn't assure you know the scruffy poor people. China remains a land where most people live in the countryside, most of its citizens have no access to higher education. Your major cities are not China. I won't be happier to see the the status of women reach such a point where not only female, but both genders are specified in the brackets following their names, where some women would not be accused of not feminine enough, where women don't have to follow the stereotype if they don't feel like to. Arglebargle III posted:Also those （女） labels are helpful to us foreigners. It's hard to tell a man's name from a woman's name at a glance unless they're really stereotypical. e.g http://news.xinhuanet.com/ziliao/2003-02/26/content_745480_11.htm Fox...and...Soup fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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I should not post while angry, sorry
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I checked the Global Gender Gap Report 2011 (Read it online) published by World Economic Forum, which supplies detailed and explicit information in four critical areas of inequality between men and women around the globe: 1. Economic participation and opportunity 2. Educational attainment 3. Health and survival 4. Political empowerment  As we can see from the image above, China with the Gender Gap Index(GGI) of 0.6866 got a better equality than its Confucius neighborhoods Japan and Korea, even reached a highlight in Asia area. But I am not here to applaud how great the feminism is in China, revealing the deep-rooting prejudices beneath the false best equality is my point. First, how China has gained its first? We analyze the detail rankings in the four fundamental area, Japan and Korea are in the reference group as they both share the similar Confucius culture to China. (Sorry about the format, can I add tables in a post?) (Rank/Score) Overall Economic Educational H&S Political China 61/0.6866 50/0.6825 85/0.9815 133/0.9327 57/0.1496 Japan 98/0.6514 100/0.5673 80/0.9862 1/0.9796 101/0.0724 Korea 107/0.6281 117/0.4934 97/0.9481 78/0.9736 90/0.0972 Generally speaking, China wins economically educationally and politically. The only area in which China is a total loser is the Health and survival. In what extent china loses in H&S? Does is matter? Second, what is H&S about? The status of Chinese women in this category is as great as we think? "This category attempts to provide an overview of the differences between women’s and men’s health. To do this, we use two variables. The first variable included in this subindex is the sex ratio at birth. This variable aims specifically to capture the phenomenon of “missing women” prevalent in many countries with a strong son preference. Second, we use the gap between women’s and men’s healthy life expectancy, calculated by the World Health Organization. This measure provides an estimate of the number of years that women and men can expect to live in good health by taking into account the years lost to violence, disease, malnutrition or other relevant factors."------World Economic Forum We jump to China page for detailed information: -------------------------Rank-------Score-------Sample average----- Female-----Male--------F/M ratio Health and Survival-------133 -------0.933----------0.956 Sex ratio at birth (F/M)---135--------0.88-----------0.92--------------(null)---------(null)---------0.88 Healthy life expectancy---74---------1.05-----------1.04----------------68-----------65----------1.05 Q:WOW, China ranks so low in H&S section, how many areas have they measured? A:135 in total. Q:What? 133 out of 135! And the highest sex ratio at birth in the whole world! How does that happen? A:Well, parents don't like girls, so they go to the doctor's as soon as the baby developed the certain organ. If no penis is detected, the baby die of abortion. BTW, its illegal to know the gender of the baby before the mother gives birth to it. Go to the underground clinic if you have already got girls and never want any girl in you family. Q:They are so brutal! The ratio means nearly 114 boys are given birth to if 100 girls are born. Chinese women must be lazy and ugly so nobody wants them. A:..... Fox...and...Soup fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Jun 8, 2012 |
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Third, are Chinese women lazy? they do both workwork and housework? They are not lazy,detailed information about work are indicated in the following tables, Brazil Russia and India are in reference group because they share a similar economic situation. Country-----Female-----Male-----Ratio-----Rank China----------74---------85-------0.88-------34 Brazil----------64---------85-------0.75-------74 Russia---------69---------76-------0.91-------17 India-----------35---------85-------0.42------123 Table.1. Labor force participation Country-----Female-----Male-----Ratio-----Rank China----------17---------83-------0.20-------90 Brazil----------36---------64-------0.56-------29 Russia---------37---------63-------0.59-------24 India-----------3----------97-------0.03------123 Table.2.Legislators, senior officials and managers Though Chinese women hold the largest labor force participation in BRICS, the percentage of whom achieve higher position remains scarce. The economic is still less-dominated by women with so many working women compared to other similar economic bodies. I think this can explain Chinese women's situation very well. For somewhat reason, no information about Chinese women's maternity, paternity and additional shared leaves can be obtained from this report. So I better omit this part as well. Housework is still work though not being paid, in China Women Remain Devoted to Housework Despite Rising Social Status
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