Preoptopus posted:

Excise me but is there a Chinese translation thread somewhere?

McDowell posted:

So maybe there is a big rush to purge the government of Western influence? The Chinese know the writing is on the wall for neoliberal globalism, so there is a push for insulation/isolation.

That seems like the very broad sweep of it to me.

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This study examines one of the largest online communities of returning Chinese professional migrants and explores migrants' choices and interpretations of citizenship. It proposes the concept of "selective citizenship," showing how migrants negotiate complex citizenship requirements and choose nationality based on the international hierarchy of nation-states and on individual needs. Selecting or changing nationality is also a way for migrants to adapt to local conditions and assert their own identity and autonomy. "Selective citizenship" thus challenges the popular and idealized "dual nationality" model and reminds us of the importance of full considerations of historical and local contexts.

Cliff Racer posted:

That would be off topic but the gist is that once you get over the age of 18 you should be prepared to state yourself as being a citizen of one country, no divided loyalties, etc. If you want to discuss it further you can make a thread on it.

Imperialist Dog posted:

Dammit, french lies, I came here to post that!

Ah well, have the picture:



Having used the toilet in Lanzhou Airport, I can say that " toilets in Chinese airports are nearly always perfectly clean and hygienic" is laughable and only applies to "rich" cities' major airports.

Requesting mods to change title to China Megathread-making GBS threads everywhere is the right of the Chinese people.

whatever7 posted:

Even though you hide yourself behind what "other people told you", this is still racist poo poo.

Curved posted:

Does anyone have thoughts on the NYTimes reporting on anything even vaguely Asian related? I feel like they tend way too close to the "inscrutable Oriental" far too often. Hell, their top-emailed piece today was something written by David Brooks about some Chinese academic living in the United States writing on the differences between American and Chinese students. The whole time it felt like a "Americans study like this and Chinese students study like this" sketch piece.

I've been teaching in a Chinese middle school for two years now and it all just smacks of bullshit to me. Honestly, all students are 99% the same in my experience, with the biggest difference being class-related. Poverty and wealth are similar across all cultures more or less. I bet any student in Beijing would have more in common with some private school brat in Bethesda than a Chinese student in the middle of Hunan or Sichuan.

flatbus posted:

You can surely blame the NYT for not sending reporters of the 'right' color while operating in a large, ethnically mixed city. If they really wanted to do decent journalism, they can send a bilingual Chinese American or Chinese immigrant instead of Mr. Kristof. Although to be fair I usually see Kristof articles' by-lines as 'Nicholas Kristof and <random Chinese name>'

One thing I never understood is why a lot of Western news reporters are just white dudes in different cultures and countries instead of being from that culture or country, when their home country has easy access to a labor pool of minorities. I guess it's to bring a 'familiar' skin color for the majority of viewers/readers.

ReindeerF posted:

I'm a quasi-conversationally fluent white guy who goes out of his way not to overstate my expertise on the countries I live and travel in, so I sympathize with the eye-rolling at the fly-by jackasses. Still, when was the last time you saw Chinese media send a white English speaker to America? There are plenty of American journalists of Asian descent in Asia and I'm guessing the same goes for Europeans of Asian descent. Just a couple of years ago some of them got detained in North Korea trying to sneak in and report a story. Kristof has made a career off of glomming on to all kinds of issues all over the world, including Africa, because he's Kristof. This is one of the reasons I respect AJE over places like the NYT. They tend to find culturally attuned, often local reporters to do the work. Still, the world isn't perfect and the fact that we have even a large smattering of journalists from the West who even speak the language and understand the culture is fantastic. Unfortunately, the big name outfits are more interested in building branded personalities than reporting.

Smeef posted:

Does all of traditional Chinese medicine count?

Bloodnose posted:

If you don't see that the end of one party rule is inevitable then you've drunk some pretty strong kool-aid. I guess the other option is a middle income trap but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they can grow their way to modern economy status.

And in that case, every authoritarian country in the history of the world that has ever industrialized to developed status has ultimately democratized. The sole counterexample is Singapore and even that tiny city state's authoritarian regime has been showing cracks lately.

You can't keep a rich country down.

Bloodnose posted:

Rich educated people don't like dictatorships. Again, this is one of the most well documented things in the history of political science. It's not that hard.

Bloodnose posted:

The fact that the transition happened at all is the point. I personally believe that Singapore isn't a good counterexample to the notion that rich countries have to democratize because Lee Kuan Yew is still alive and kinda in power. When the founding president of the authoritarian regime is still around, I consider that still too early to tell and I wonder how well the PAP regime will survive his death. Clearly the Spanish Fascist regime was so hopeless without Franco that even he himself saw it before he died and personally arranged for a bloodless transition to democracy. Good for him. Few transitions are so clean.

Zohar posted:

The point is that, once again, the PRC is obviously authoritarian but it also has elements -- certainly programmatic elements -- of something more far-reaching. This more far-reaching thing is, yes, a particular permutation of authoritarian statecraft, which is similar to, let's say, Park Chung-hee's apparent designs for South Korea in the Yushin period, or obviously to fascist Italy. This is what I am calling totalitarianism, and not arbitrarily either, for reasons that have been pointed out in this thread.

WarpedNaba posted:

Eh, I knew guys who were leaving the sticks to get Polytech certificates in Acupuncture, and my coworker swears up and down that acupuncture cured her arthritis.

Sure, she worked as a nurse for respiratory patients for 30 years, but she still should've known a placebo when she saw one.

waitwhatno posted:

So what's up with Chinese people here in Germany not trying to learn the language? I swear some people have been living here for 4+ years without speaking a single word of German, just getting by with English. Everyone else, no matter where they come from, signs up for language lessons or at least gets some books when they come here. But not the Chinese.

Whats going on here, are they waiting for us to learn Chinese and are too polite to tell us?

Arglebargle III posted:

The CCP has been really successful with its propaganda as indicated by the use of 我国 as a real loving word jesus christ Chinese is the worst language ideologically lexically and grammatically. Seriously, I dread the idea that Chinese will take over the world. It's a horrifying, stultifying, stinking sterile overgrown cesspit of a language in which nothing means anything anymore and yet it degrades both speaker and listener as its idiot syllables swarm over the lips and teeth and ears and brain matter. God deliver us from the Chinese non-language.

Discendo Vox posted:

Arglebargle III posted:

Ebola can't get here soon enough and if the Chinese response is its normal wilfully incompetent self it may do a lot of good in the long term.

Xibanya posted:

I went to the most expensive university in spain and there were a ton of rich Chinese kids there (as well as a fuckload of rich Saudis but that's another post). At first I naively thought that tooling around in Western Europe would show them how their government was dumb and their policies were dumb but these kids were seriously resistant to anything that would suggest the party was doing anything wrong. My Taiwanese friend (mentioned earlier) spent a lot of time arguing with these kids but just ended up working himself up in a rage (and the easiest way to push his buttons was to suggest Taiwan should belong to China, which naturally always came up.) maybe it's my own arrogance as a westerner, but it makes me sad that someone can chill in Madrid and enjoy an uncensored Internet and an unpolluted metropolis and then go back to Beijing still thinking the party shits rainbows. Maybe their dad was Li Gang.

So yeah no surprise nobody but non Chinese will remember this movie in a year.

Edit: oh yeah and it might not be that spergy of my friend to prefer Formosa to Taiwan, as he's fluent in Portuguese and Gallego and goes to portugal or Galicia whenever he gets a puente (three day weekend). He is planning to get a tat that says "feito na formosa"

Also apparently his family has a history of disliking China and he dislikes using Chinese terms - he said at home his family speaks Japanese even though they're not Japanese ethnically. His dad was a pro-independence activist and when there were student protest in Taiwan, one of the pictures taken by the AP prominently featured his younger sister. He was really proud of that and was sending articles with it to everyone.

Bloodnose posted:

He isn't crazy at all and is a highly respected Sinologist, described by some of my colleagues as the best in the field.

That doesn't mean he's able to correctly predict the future of course. But don't discount him just because he's saying some spooky stuff.

Arglebargle III posted:

Chinese citizens aren't allowed to study China tho.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Disgrace to the core of the Rhodes program. Rhodes needs independent thinkers, not rhote memorizers.

Arglebargle III posted:

Haha holy poo poo SCMP really is a turd now. It was a decent paper four years ago.

This guy wrote an article about how he couldn't understand the outrage this article provoked.

Chickenwalker posted:

It's not just the Communist mindfuck on the mainland that produces this mentality. It's unadulterated Confucianism. That's the real root of all evil. As long as the culture is built around saving face and filial piety and all the rest of that horseshit it doesn't matter what economic or political model they choose, it's going to suck. And that's not to say that Communism and authoritarianism aren't bad, just that Confucianism is worse.