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semicolonsrock
Aug 26, 2009
Muscle is impossible

disporak posted:

I have three invites if anyone wants in. Just message me

http://steamcommunity.com/id/mmd

Friended you since I wasn't sure how to message you w/o it -- I"d love an invite.

e: If anyone else has an invite, I"m not picky who I get one from! Steam ign PaschalRandolph

semicolonsrock fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 01:30

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mekkanare
Sep 12, 2008

Really?
Really?




I think one thing that would help this game is if they were to implement xp division if people were too close to one another. Getting the same regardless of if there's one in lane versus five is just silly.

Liberatore
Nov 16, 2010

Would you like
to know more?


When (that's no) moon hits this guy like a big Twi'lek guy: Liberatore!


Doesn't it go by credits earned?

Pseudophile
Dec 25, 2007


Chronomaster posted:

You don't level deploy? I see that skill as crucial for not only topping up armor but reloading faster and getting a few crits in.

I do, but I usually use Deploy as a later skill.

-Edit-

I'm not saying I don't use deploy, but it's much more of a situational skill that doesn't require a fast recharge. Throw Churros in the mix, and it's ready whenever I need it to be. Add to that, I'm usually using it more as a method to either top off armor or give my allies a bit of armor during ani fights and it doesn't need many points. That's why I save it for lategame.

I roll with a Support buddy on voice a lot, when he asks for a Deploy he gets it.

Far as anything else, I roll with Critically Late + Critical Kill with a 25% reload endorsement build, Gunner is a beast.

Pseudophile fucked around with this message at Feb 28, 2012 around 23:12

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

So has anyone tried out All Magnet yet? Thoughts? I think it would be great on a commando (lots of items dropping in jungles and big fights, so getting armor and churros magneted to you could be really big), but 6750 is a lot of credits.

Pseudophile
Dec 25, 2007


Bottom Liner posted:

So has anyone tried out All Magnet yet? Thoughts? I think it would be great on a commando (lots of items dropping in jungles and big fights, so getting armor and churros magneted to you could be really big), but 6750 is a lot of credits.

I won it as a prize, it works just like the new Money Magnet system. It doesn't pull everything all at once, it pulls every quarter of a second. It's also got half the range of Money Magnet. It's good but Money Magnet is better - you can actively gently caress your teammates by sucking up a Churro or armor pickup that they might desperately need.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

Pseudophile posted:

I won it as a prize, it works just like the new Money Magnet system. It doesn't pull everything all at once, it pulls every quarter of a second. It's also got half the range of Money Magnet. It's good but Money Magnet is better - you can actively gently caress your teammates by sucking up a Churro or armor pickup that they might desperately need.

Yeah, that's why I was thinking of only running it on someone I jungle with most of the time. The range might be a killer though. I guess I'll try to wait and win/trade for it.

Sputnik
Jul 21, 2003

I felt like a ninja, and my kung-fu was strong.


Sweet, got Death Wave (knockback bomb upon death) as a free prize - exactly what I was saving up for next!


Now, a good tank or support uniform.

Forer
Jan 18, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


I'm glad to see there's still people who afk right after they hop into a game, Tried teaching a friend to play and I get "McGrewber" who afk's right at the start, I'm done playing 100% unless it's a four man with goons

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Forer posted:

I'm glad to see there's still people who afk right after they hop into a game, Tried teaching a friend to play and I get "McGrewber" who afk's right at the start, I'm done playing 100% unless it's a four man with goons

People are basically AFKing for prizes, not caring that they ruin other peoples' games. Report them to Uber and they will probably ban them (when they can).

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


I wanted to make some quick tips for newer players but ended up writing way too much so I threw it on pastebin:

http://pastebin.com/JkgcJvKB

vvvv: Newer players implies they are already playing this game! You probably shouldn't read my babbling if you haven't even played a few rounds.

e: Added megabeth's disk to a tip and removed dumb title.

e2: I don't think I really mentioned it flat out so I'll say it here, one of the basics of SMNC is to not die when possible. Unless you're a commando harassing from the top of maps, or fleeing, you should be with allies.

Eigo fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 16:33

Fluffy Tail
Jan 3, 2012


Eigo posted:

I wanted to make some quick tips for newer players but ended up writing way too much so I threw it on pastebin:

http://pastebin.com/smZ430gL

The best advice you could give them is not to play this game!

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

CzarStark
Dec 23, 2007

Wheels keep on spinning round, spinning round, spinning round



Just ran into the only thing that could possibly make this game better - mic spamming. Yes I want to hear your dubstep 4x louder than the game!

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


CzarStark posted:

Just ran into the only thing that could possibly make this game better - mic spamming. Yes I want to hear your dubstep 4x louder than the game!

The best part is, as far as I know, you can't even see who is speaking so there's never anything stopping them. I haven't had the pleasure of running into people mic spamming yet, but I've had a few games where I have no idea what the pubbie is saying and they just..keep speaking.

Kelp Plankton
Aug 5, 2007

My CoX will forever blast giant streams of liquid!

Eigo posted:

I wanted to make some quick tips for newer players but ended up writing way too much so I threw it on pastebin:

http://pastebin.com/smZ430gL

vvvv: Newer players implies they are already playing this game! You probably shouldn't read my babbling if you haven't even played a few rounds.

In the list of things that disable turrets: also Megabeth's disc. It stuns turrets briefly. Unless I was imagining that or it got removed- it's pretty helpful during a push.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Kelp Plankton posted:

In the list of things that disable turrets: also Megabeth's disc. It stuns turrets briefly. Unless I was imagining that or it got removed- it's pretty helpful during a push.

It does, it's actually one of the better ones since it spams a lot more but I forgot to list it.

vvv: If you grabbed them out of spawn, they can always do that and some people will abuse it pretty hard when they're winning. I think they're supposedly fixing that this patch?

Eigo fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 07:02

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.


I feel like I should stop playing Veteran since I'll never land a claw this sweet ever again.

Chibs
Jun 28, 2004

- crank dat grandpa -



I still haven't tried playing this, but anyway, I have four invites if anyone needs em.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/hypahchibs

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006
Do Not Trust This Man

Sputnik posted:

Sweet, got Death Wave (knockback bomb upon death) as a free prize - exactly what I was saving up for next!


Now, a good tank or support uniform.

Products rewarding you for dying are bad products.

Celestatiune
Dec 31, 2002

Stranger Things


Well that was sweet. I hope when this game actually comes out properly they have a mercenary-style queue so I can stop running headlong into premades where our team gets 3 kills total and has two guys with 20+ deaths while the other team literally just spawncamps us while we can't do anything.

Dr Mantis Toboggan
Feb 22, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Celestatiune posted:

Well that was sweet. I hope when this game actually comes out properly they have a mercenary-style queue so I can stop running headlong into premades where our team gets 3 kills total and has two guys with 20+ deaths while the other team literally just spawncamps us while we can't do anything.

It's been said before, but team balance is the most important aspect of whether this game succeeds or has the community die off and it goes the way of MNC.

On another note I decided to buy Bot Buster to see how it works, and the answer is: poorly. Over the course of a standard game that I had maybe 60 bot kills in a row without dying the difference in bot killing power was so negligible that I wondered if I had forgotten to save my setup properly.

So I started a solo practice game and had 150 kills and the difference still wasn't very pronounced. So all in all, don't buy it.

EVIR Gibson
Mar 23, 2001




Chibs posted:

I still haven't tried playing this, but anyway, I have four invites if anyone needs em.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/hypahchibs

I would like one please!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/egibson

Mojo Jojo
Sep 21, 2005
Hypnotist of Ladies

Dr Mantis Toboggan posted:

It's been said before, but team balance is the most important aspect of whether this game succeeds or has the community die off and it goes the way of MNC.

On another note I decided to buy Bot Buster to see how it works, and the answer is: poorly. Over the course of a standard game that I had maybe 60 bot kills in a row without dying the difference in bot killing power was so negligible that I wondered if I had forgotten to save my setup properly.

So I started a solo practice game and had 150 kills and the difference still wasn't very pronounced. So all in all, don't buy it.

I've found it to be amazing. It caps at +25%, you know?

MisterFuzzles
Dec 5, 2009

We can't go back no more, but I suppose we can go wherever we please.


Chibs posted:

I still haven't tried playing this, but anyway, I have four invites if anyone needs em.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/hypahchibs

Would appreciate one. Ill be at work until late so I wont be around to accept anything so give it to someone else if you'd like. Thanks!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/MrFuzzles

Any straight newbie tips anyone can give or general "For the love of...Dont do that!" advice? Looking to concentrate on Support/Combat Girl and Megabeth probably.

DangerKat
Nov 5, 2009

i'm lovin' it!


Don't chase down a pro that pulls you into their botwaves/turret sections. Especially for the lower mobility classes, as they haven't a prayer of escaping after the kill.

Thrill Cosby
Jun 4, 2005



MisterFuzzles posted:

Any straight newbie tips anyone can give or general "For the love of...Dont do that!" advice? Looking to concentrate on Support/Combat Girl and Megabeth probably.

Eigos link on this same page is a good place to start.

Dr Mantis Toboggan
Feb 22, 2011

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Mojo Jojo posted:

I've found it to be amazing. It caps at +25%, you know?

Maybe if it capped faster it could be worth using, in like 50 kills or so. At the moment however I cannot justify using it over any of the more useful products.

Gorefiend
Dec 23, 2006
yar

Chibs posted:

I still haven't tried playing this, but anyway, I have four invites if anyone needs em.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/hypahchibs

I'll take one if you still have it please!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/robofiend

MisterFuzzles
Dec 5, 2009

We can't go back no more, but I suppose we can go wherever we please.


Thrill Cosby posted:

Eigos link on this same page is a good place to start.

Right infront of me. Thanks.

Mojo Jojo
Sep 21, 2005
Hypnotist of Ladies

Dr Mantis Toboggan posted:

Maybe if it capped faster it could be worth using, in like 50 kills or so. At the moment however I cannot justify using it over any of the more useful products.

+25% is 25 kills.

Carados
Jan 27, 2009

We're a couple, when our bodies double.


Is there any way to mute a player's microphone without muting all voice chat?

Or you know, a report function?

Carados fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 16:07

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Yeah, so, good players love to rattle off ways support is "useless" which leads me to believe he's going to get a big buff and if that happens, I simply don't want to play. He makes the game no fun.

Fauntleroy
May 8, 2007

I am a song!



Death Cube K posted:


I feel like I should stop playing Veteran since I'll never land a claw this sweet ever again.

Oh that is delicious. You can practically hear the guy playing gunner smashing his keyboard in rage.

Mojo Jojo
Sep 21, 2005
Hypnotist of Ladies

Violently Car posted:

Yeah, so, good players love to rattle off ways support is "useless" which leads me to believe he's going to get a big buff and if that happens, I simply don't want to play. He makes the game no fun.

You've got to accept that you are alone in the opinion that Support is broken.

I doubt he'll get much of a buff beyond maybe widening the gap between his and CG's heal abilities (if that).

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

I just don't get it, though. People tell me all the time that he's bad but in every single game he's in, he is the most important member of the other team and is usually the most instrumental in their victory (unless some commando snowballs out of control). Is it just something everyone accepts in games that healer classes are just going to be way better than everyone else?

Kaboobi
Jan 5, 2005

SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!


Man you really don't like defender classes.

Thrill Cosby
Jun 4, 2005



You should play support then!

Macavity
Jun 29, 2006

There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.

Nobody is saying he's bad, dude. No one (in this thread) has ever said that.

You say healing classes are "fundamentally broken" in that they require you to have a healer to be an effective team. That's arguable, especially when you're talking about playing with people who are actually good and not just using a Support to save their rear end from really dumb plays.

But the big issue is that the ability to heal makes a game more fun for everyone. You don't have to walk all the way back to spawn every time you get smacked down. If you're the healer, you can contribute to your team in a way that doesn't rely solely on twitch-shooting.

You've got this Counterstrike-era mindset that only people who are good at clicking on bad guys' heads should be able to do well and help the team, but that has no place in class-based games like this and TF2, so you should really stop trying to apply their rules here.

Lblitzer
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


Violently Car posted:

I just don't get it, though. People tell me all the time that he's bad but in every single game he's in, he is the most important member of the other team and is usually the most instrumental in their victory (unless some commando snowballs out of control). Is it just something everyone accepts in games that healer classes are just going to be way better than everyone else?

If a Support sticks around his turret and you've got someone else helping him out, he's going to be one of the strongest forces in the game.

Death Cube K posted:


I feel like I should stop playing Veteran since I'll never land a claw this sweet ever again.

This is the most satisfying thing as Vet next to getting a pull and kill within the first 30 seconds. Caused a Gunslinger to ragequit after getting her twice in pretty rapid succession.

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Celestatiune
Dec 31, 2002

Stranger Things


It's probably like playing medic in TF2, the difference between having a halfway decent one and not having a medic (or having one that's actively useless) is huge and goes beyond whatever that player would have added to the team as any other class.

However he's exceptionally weak on his own, doesn't really have much to do beyond healbot and try to avoid getting shot, and generally isn't enjoyable to play by anyone who isn't naturally drawn to passive support classes.

That's how I feel about him and CG after seeing how matches play out, the team that has the more competent Support/CGs usually ends up winning. I suppose that could change having not ever seen a team without any support class so who knows.

Though we just did win a really grueling match against a team who had us penned up, we fought off at least 10 jackbots that I was in on, our team didn't understand that you need to damage bots to win and was underleveled most of the time. Other guy sneaks in an annihliator as our moneyball is getting pounded on by yet another jackbot, I'm right there fighting it and take the opportunity to grab a jackbot+little bots of our own, smear the Megabeth carrying the enemy team and their CG/Support duo, fight our way all the way through all their poo poo, our CG/Support pair sets up a bunch of cats and a turret on their moneyball while I run around getting a couple kills including the Megabeth respawn, turrets blow up the moneyball and end what felt like an hourlong match.

I've had several of these hilarious never-say-die comebacks in the 20 or so games I've played so far, reminds me a lot of what happens a lot at my (low) level of LoL. Probably the whole deal where getting aced or at least losing all your important players at once near the end of the game gives the other team a gigantic opportunity to reverse and win at lightning speed. I've got to say I much prefer this to the old overtime system, it's just as capricious and offers an incentive to keep fighting but it's also much more fair because it requires a pretty big mistake by the winning team to set up, rather than "force a stalemate, have assassins or assaults ready with juice"

Celestatiune fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 17:07

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