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Rorus Raz
Nov 13, 2011

Rambunctious Rocketeer


No, they invite in waves every so often.

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TVsVeryOwn
Jan 9, 2011

I don't always do Drugs
But when I do
I GET FUCKED!


Quodio Stotes posted:

Are they completely out of beta invites?

I've got 3 1 invite left. Add me on Steam if you want to get playing right away. http://steamcommunity.com/id/tvvo

Edit: Sorry I forgot I said I was giving my invites away. Sorry again that I ignored your friend request Quodio Stotes before, sent a fresh one your way.

TVsVeryOwn fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2012 around 02:57

Third World Reggin
May 19, 2008

drugs are bad tho


I'll take an invite, but I can't seem to send you a message. Here is me.

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

I'm sitting on 4 invites at the moement

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Joats/

Quodio Stotes
Aug 8, 2010

by angerbot


Sent you both an invite, I am "The Lunchmeat Kid"
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018679523
e- Ill be on at about 7pm

FreyaXI
May 1, 2011


Anyone mind shooting me some invite love. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Proxxie/

Thanks in advanced!

Cuhullin
Feb 12, 2012


FreyaXI posted:

Anyone mind shooting me some invite love. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Proxxie/

Thanks in advanced!


Friended ya, so as soon as you accept I can send it your way. About to head out, so if not now late tonight/tomorrow.

Lilleput
Jul 22, 2006



After they put in the solo beta queue this game has gone to poo poo. Now every time we queue up as a 4 or 5 man we get put against these MLG condesending assholes and get rolled. If i try to solo queue i get put on a team with idiots against idiots.

I'm done, might come back in a few months and see what they have done with it.

Macavity
Jun 29, 2006

There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.

Lilleput posted:

After they put in the solo beta queue this game has gone to poo poo....

If i try to solo queue i get put on a team with idiots against idiots.

So...you want to be teamed up with good players, and play against good players (but not too good!!) all completely randomly? In what game, ever, has that occurred?

Seriously. This is not the fault of the matchmaking system, or the devs, or the game, or even the genre. Just find some people who are good at the game and queue with them. Statistically, most people who play games are bad at them. If you queue with random people expect most of them to be bad - both on your team, and theirs.

Also, consider the nonzero chance that you, yourself, are bad (remember: most people are!), and that's why you keep losing. Your equally bad teammates are just not helping the situation at all.

Macavity fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2012 around 02:15

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Welp, had my first leave today since I forgot about something and I didn't even get a "left" for it when I quit out of the game normally. Sorry again to the four I actually invited to play and then ditched the first game.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006
a jerk

Every patch that doesn't remove neutral bouncers is a bad one.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

People purchasing the annihilator should automatically become the lowest priority target for jungle bots.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

^^^^^^
I'm not manly enough for this


Violently Car posted:

People purchasing the annihilator should automatically become the lowest priority target for jungle bots.

I dunno. As frustrating as it is, something about having a bouncer jump in and wreck someone's poo poo while they're buying the annihilator is profoundly hilarious.

Dr Mantis Toboggan
Feb 22, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Phoix posted:

Every patch that doesn't remove neutral bouncers is a bad one.

Neutral bouncers would be ok if they actually went for the closest player so that there could at least be some strategy in positioning. As it is however they seem to fixate on a single player. There have been times where a bouncer has run straight through the middle of my team to grapple someone on the other side of the map.

Also Australian servers suck now. They started off great since alot of people on them seem to have a pretty good understanding of the game. Then this group of three good players started queueing together. Now it is a case of either getting stomped, or rolling on their team and stomping, neither of which is interesting or fun.

Why dont they just open a solo only queue already? The majority of people would use it, and then when you want a bigger teamwork challenge start up a 5 man and go up against other 5 mans.

Kaboobi
Jan 5, 2005

SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!


They seem to really like the people with the most credits. Who is usually the one buying the anni.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

^^^^^^
I'm not manly enough for this


Dr Mantis Toboggan posted:

Neutral bouncers would be ok if they actually went for the closest player so that there could at least be some strategy in positioning. As it is however they seem to fixate on a single player. There have been times where a bouncer has run straight through the middle of my team to grapple someone on the other side of the map.

The trick to jungle bots is that once they lock onto a player, they won't go for anyone else until that person dies, leaves the jungle, or cloaks (if they're an Assassin). It works just fine, really; it would be nice if there was an easy way to tell who exactly the bot's going for, but I don't know that there's really an elegant way to do that considering how there can be multiple bots going after multiple targets.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Violently Car posted:

People purchasing the annihilator should automatically become the lowest priority target for jungle bots.

That's one idea. I definitely think there's some tweak that could be applied to improve things. The issue for me is that if the jungle bots target one side over the other, it makes it feel unfair, like luck had too high of an influence in who got the annie. I suppose one option would actually be to make the jungle spawn rate actually increase while the annie is up. Sounds counter-intuitive, but it would make it less likely that all the bots would target one side. Sure, you'd have the occasional instance where it's even more lopsided, but that would happen less often.

I'd also love to toss around some ideas on what could actually be done to help with the Vet Ka-Claw issue that people constantly talk about, since I do agree that it's an issue. Anyone have any they've thought of? Someone mentioned the other day that Vet should just be split off into his own class of initiators, that seems like it could work.

Or else, let's see. I guess they could just make it really obvious to your team-mates when someone gets pulled so they can rush in and help - flashing symbol or something. Or maybe make Vet vulnerable right after a pull, so that on his own he can't just surprise sex someone, he needs a partner or two to make it really effective. Or make the person pulled be immune to grabs for a brief time, so they can still get hosed up but it's not a 100% gently caress-train. I think there are a ton of options they could try.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

So Health Inverter on Gunner is pretty much a must have, I just played 2 games with it and it's already saved my rear end 5 times.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Dr Mantis Toboggan posted:

Why dont they just open a solo only queue already?

Matchmaker test runs like this currently.

Dr Mantis Toboggan
Feb 22, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


XboxPants posted:

Matchmaker test runs like this currently.

It does? Looks like I will have to suck up the ping and use it.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Haha, just played a game with a dev and once we had pretty strong control of the annihilator, he suggested we intentionally not activate it just so they keep rushing us and feeding. It kinda felt like a dick move, but on the other hand it was quite the delicious buffet.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

They should add grapple damage reduction to stunned people. Right now, Karl's pretty much at Veteran's level of brokenness, except unlike Veteran wasting your time before killing you, Karl basically just instagibs you.

Macavity
Jun 29, 2006

There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.

Is there a pro that you think is underpowered?

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.

I still don't get why people think they need the annihilator so bad that they rush after it one by one the second they respawn after dying from doing just that.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Macavity posted:

Is there a pro that you think is underpowered?

He thought Karl was underpowered a week ago.

Macavity
Jun 29, 2006

There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.

People think the annihilator is a much, much bigger deal than it is. I know a lot of people new to the game literally believe that "whoever gets the first annihilator wins", which is true only in the sense that the team who wins the annihilator fight is probably a better team, and is therefore going to win because of that.

I've played over a hundred games and I've never felt that I won or lost a game just because of the annihilator.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006
a jerk

I main Karl and he's just bananas right now. He already did great damage but with the change to his alt-fire it's pretty much a guaranteed kill on anyone if I land my stun.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

The first annihilator only decides the game if you throw yourselves at them over and over and give them 8-10 kills fighting for it. That can put them far enough ahead to make it very tough to come back from. The key is knowing when you can't take it, just buy bots after they get it and give them no kills.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Eigo posted:

He thought Karl was underpowered a week ago.

Didn't realize how bonkers his stun is. The buff to Handler also helped a ton.

As for actual power levels: Veteran, Support, Combat Girl, and Karl are all too good in my opinion. Assault and Captain Spark are on watch. The rest of the cast has their strengths but are mostly fine.

Anyway, anyone ever have this happen? I did a teleport as Spark and wound up here:


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feb 11, 2012


After playing the first game, I can't come to enjoy this one. The fast paced, insane combat speed was the whole reason I loved it.

This game isn't bad, but the slow pace and toned down combat is incredibly boring in comparison.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Here's a video of the teleport:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j6cqfuapkg

Theswarms
Dec 20, 2005


Violently Car posted:


Anyway, anyone ever have this happen? I did a teleport as Spark and wound up here:




Yeh, I've gotten stuck in that exact spot before. Anyone know if they are doing more to fix Sparks teleport? It still bugs all the time and that promised cooldown elimination when it happens I have seen activate twice.

Plus his alt-fire still bugs out, just less often.

Anyone else running in a group of 3 commandos and just ganking anyone who splits from the group in an orgy of swords?

washow
Dec 1, 2007

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Phoix posted:

I main Karl and he's just bananas right now. He already did great damage but with the change to his alt-fire it's pretty much a guaranteed kill on anyone if I land my stun.

I tried Karl a couple days ago for the first time and I didn't feel very effective since I was obviously playing him wrong.

How do you play him? What's the general game plan and the skill build?

Zorro KingOfEngland
May 7, 2008


I got the Sunburst Jet Gun for the tank as a prize and I don't even own him

sentrygun
Dec 29, 2009

FUCKIN
ASSHOLE


Got an invite from a friend a couple days ago, but I just got my proper access code today. Can't redeem it for free gifts or anything so it's pretty much useless so me. I assume this'll give you the game plus however many invites come standard with it.

JAJQB-FVBGE-CF8BD

I don't watch this thread so make sure to quote it when you grab it so other people can see, I guess. Not sure if this is the place for it, but it's worthless to be as-is and it looks like people are tossing around the gift copies here.

thuly
Jun 19, 2005


sentrygun posted:

Got an invite from a friend a couple days ago, but I just got my proper access code today. Can't redeem it for free gifts or anything so it's pretty much useless so me. I assume this'll give you the game plus however many invites come standard with it.

JAJQB-FVBGE-CF8BD

I don't watch this thread so make sure to quote it when you grab it so other people can see, I guess. Not sure if this is the place for it, but it's worthless to be as-is and it looks like people are tossing around the gift copies here.

Thanks! I grabbed this copy and guess what? It came with 4 more copies!

Steam name is thuly, same as SA. Let me know if you want one.

Kelp Plankton
Aug 5, 2007

My CoX will forever blast giant streams of liquid!

thuly posted:

Thanks! I grabbed this copy and guess what? It came with 4 more copies!

Steam name is thuly, same as SA. Let me know if you want one.

I would really appreciate it if you could trade an invite or two to me via steamtrade so I can hand them out- I've used mine up and a few friends of mine still want to get in on this game.

But if you'd rather hold onto them for someone else that's okay.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/kelpplankton

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Played with a newbie friend today and the team we went up against was exploiting. Their entire team (except a guy who wasn't in their premade) had Gunner's machinegun. We were getting our asses kicked until my friend bought a Jackbot (he didn't know that just buying a Jackbot is pretty much a waste of money), except the other team completely ignored it and it went all the way to their base and wrecked it.

Anyway, does anyone know where replays are saved? I wanna submit this to Uber.

Violently Car fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2012 around 09:50

Hypha
Sep 13, 2008


Violently Car posted:

Played with a newbie friend today and the team we went up against was exploiting. Their entire team (except a guy who wasn't in their premade) had Gunner's machinegun. We were getting our asses kicked until my friend bought a Jackbot (he didn't know that just buying a Jackbot is pretty much a waste of money), except the other team completely ignored it and it went all the way to their base and wrecked it.

Anyway, does anyone know where replays are saved? I wanna submit this to Uber.

Now that is one replay I wanna watch.

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Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010


Thank you eigo and co for putting up with me. The only match where I actually went on something that resembled a killing spree ended up with us losing.

It looks like I might have to stick to playing assault for a little while longer until I feel confident into playing tank or support again. I don't really get karl other than I fail at stunning someone and unloading energy balls into them at anything but short range.
I'm also miffed about bomb jumping being nearly useless, momentum gained from the blast feels drastically reduced which makes ring outs and jumping difficult.

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