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Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

feedtheid posted:

Moreover, Gunner is an enforcer - his point is to be a wall and punish people that don't "get it." Karl is mobility and damage, and Spark is just straight damage. I don't think it's that odd for him to get outdpsed.

To be honest Gunner isn't much of a wall. Any kind of pressure and he just falls over, even with team support. Not to mention both Spark and Karl have really, really good debuffs too add on their high DPS and Slam.... well it sucks, especially now that everyone and their dog runs Can't Slow This.

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Zahki
Nov 7, 2004


Orange Crush Rush posted:

Who the gently caress cares about Skins, I just wanna know why Karl and Spark can still drat near out DPS the Gunner.

I thought that was the point of Commandos, they're high DPS, fragile gankers, right? I'd say the fact that if you get caught out of position as the Gunner you're flat out hosed 99% of the time is a bigger issue for him than his DPS. Once you commit to a fight one of you is going to die no matter what.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Regarding Spark's alt fire:

Scathis posted:

Yes, we looked into it and there isn't strong evidence, yet, that it needs altering. We are continuing to evaluate it though.

I've been doing super well on Spark lately and I didn't even realize how often and easily you could use his right RMB. I just gave it a spin and it seems really, really absurd when you can use it properly. I'm not sure how they think it's okay.

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.

Violently Car posted:

I'm not sure how they think it's okay.

I think that might be my fault, guys. I did kind of ruin his day by doing nothing by jumping the poo poo out of him every time he stepped foot in the jungle. We'll know for sure if Wascot gets nerfed in the next update.

oldskool
Aug 9, 2010


Violently Car posted:

Regarding Spark's alt fire:
I've been doing super well on Spark lately and I didn't even realize how often and easily you could use his right RMB. I just gave it a spin and it seems really, really absurd when you can use it properly. I'm not sure how they think it's okay.
If Megabeth is any indication, they don't think it's okay, but their business model requires such chicanery at the moment due to the small playerbase. They make more money off of suckers buying up Spark under the pretenses of developer-denied overpoweredness than they do taking away Spark from anyone who's already paid them for the privilege of using it while they make their purchase less valuable overall.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Death Cube K posted:

I think that might be my fault, guys. I did kind of ruin his day by doing nothing by jumping the poo poo out of him every time he stepped foot in the jungle. We'll know for sure if Wascot gets nerfed in the next update.



For everything Spark can do, I still wish I bought Wascot. Wascot is extremely ridiculous right now.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Bottom Liner posted:

Sweet, free Karl. Pretty vanilla patch all in all, but that Cheston skin is great.

It fuckin' is, isn't it? I was seriously thinking about buying it until I saw they're asking TWENTY FIVE GODDAMN DOLLARS FOR IT. Hahahahaha, yeah, good luck with that Uber.

I guess since the playerbase is so small right now they can't just shoot for massive sales at low prices, but I hope once they open up they figure out a way to massively lower the prices. Big weekly or daily sales or something.

mekkanare
Sep 12, 2008

Really?
Really?




Uber posted:

Added weapon selection to Pro Chooser screen.

Ugh, so there's going to be new weapons added? Or is it just skinning? I really hope it's only skinning.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

They're just skins.

Rorus Raz
Nov 13, 2011

Rambunctious Rocketeer


Patch is downloading now.

Not sold on the gold gun, but maybe the others will look better.

a cock shaped fruit
Aug 23, 2010

Pictured: Lara Croft

GUNAWREKIT


Cosmetic poo poo ruins games, right?

Also, best part of the new patch:

mekkanare
Sep 12, 2008

Really?
Really?




Skins I don't care, but if it was a constant stream of new items that'd get irritating.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Taiso posted:

Need picture of Rocket Demon stat!



Prices are real, I am kind of upset they're charging 30$ for the new Cheston skin.

e: 800 uberpoitns for most weapons, really.

e2: Apparently those "25% off" things are actually just how much they'd cost separate, it's still insane prices for these weapons though. "Added display of Uber Point savings when you unlock a complete uniform."

Eigo fucked around with this message at Mar 9, 2012 around 04:44

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

XboxPants posted:

It fuckin' is, isn't it? I was seriously thinking about buying it until I saw they're asking TWENTY FIVE GODDAMN DOLLARS FOR IT. Hahahahaha, yeah, good luck with that Uber.


Damnit

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Hey, vote with your wallets. If people actually pay for the items, the prices won't go down.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Violently Car posted:

Hey, vote with your wallets. If people actually pay for the items, the prices won't go down.

I feel like I've already seen way too many Stab Demons for how little it is changed compared to Outland skins.

Also, weapon models are coming later, welp.

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

The new weapon skins are just solid gradients. I figured they were just placeholders.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Uhrman-chan~
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Violently Car posted:

Hey, vote with your wallets. If people actually pay for the items, the prices won't go down.

Yup. Ekanaut straight-up said they're doing market testing with these high prices. Like Eigo said, the Stab Demon skin seemed to be selling pretty well despite a very high price. The only logical next step is to keep raising prices to try to find the price ceiling of what players are willing to play for a cool skin.

Quodio Stotes
Aug 8, 2010

by angerbot


So noone plays the normal monday night combat anymore?

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

It's dead. RIP, it will not be missed.

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.

Quodio Stotes posted:

So noone plays the normal monday night combat anymore?

No one played normal MNC a month after it came out.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

I love the post-match lines by Mickey Cantor. "Also Beatrice gets a makeover and dies as a result" gets me every time.

Rorus Raz
Nov 13, 2011

Rambunctious Rocketeer


Best patch change: Wascot's paddle is much larger.

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.

Violently Car posted:

I love the post-match lines by Mickey Cantor. "Also Beatrice gets a makeover and dies as a result" gets me every time.

I'm not even kidding when I say I would watch Meet the Meatsacks unironically.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Veteran is still way over the top. He's still a commando with enforcer health and initiation.

Rorus Raz
Nov 13, 2011

Rambunctious Rocketeer


Veteran is a train-wreck. He's hardly overpowered, but he's a niche no other Pro fills.

They either need to make a sixth class, revamp him, or makes similar changes to the other enforcers. I think the one thing the community can actually agree on is that Veteran is a must-have on every team.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

The problem boils down to Kaclaw. It's the only instant kill in the game. Without it he's a tanky commando without great escape (dash/rolls is nowhere near the real commando escapes). Kaclaw is just that good. At any stage of the game it is a serious threat and can be an instant kill from turrets/chain grabs/ring outs. The only thing that keeps it in check is how damned buggy it is; grabbing someone on a clear flat path and them moving perpendicular to your claw path, for example.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

Well on the plus side I can go another week of riding on Eigo's coattails and getting easy wins while he goes 19-0 as Spark.

AndyAML
Jul 24, 2006

HEY BASS WHY MUST I FIGHT YOU WE ARE NOT ENEMIES


Played a game with the devs tonight. They did not answer my question about supporting Unicode, though

Also, in commemoration of my double laser kill tonight and replays working again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HeR3ih0BYw

Kelp Plankton
Aug 5, 2007

My CoX will forever blast giant streams of liquid!

<3 Eigo. Good matches tonight, guys! It's not often I go against a game's devs twice in a row and win both times.

Think I've finally sort of found my groove as Cheston (and to a lesser degree Assault) lately, which oddly enough have become my main dudes. Thought I'd enjoy Combat Girl and Support a lot more since I tend to have fun as a medic type class, but the turrets just frustrate me. So gorilla it is!

Managed to finally get enough combat credits to grab Critically Late tonight just as we stopped playing, though. That'll be fun to play with once I get back from spring break.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.

Yeah I had a blast tonight. We won a lot of good matches against premades and devs. Felt good. Eigo stop playing spark so I can top the money board!

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

Aw hey that's cute.


I think the game just gave me some free hot seat skins, like I didn't even win anything they just randomly appeared in the weapon skins option

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Lucinice posted:

I think the game just gave me some free hot seat skins, like I didn't even win anything they just randomly appeared in the weapon skins option

Yeah, that's a bug right now.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010


Bottom Liner posted:

Yeah I had a blast tonight. We won a lot of good matches against premades and devs. Felt good. Eigo stop playing spark so I can top the money board!

I top as every class, get on my level scrub. (except when I don't)

Also does anyone know if there's any products to counter sniper's ice traps? I know can't slow this doesn't, but I really hope can't stun this does because I can't bring myself to buy it for Karl alone.

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

Aw hey that's cute.


Violently Car posted:

Yeah, that's a bug right now.

Oh



Do you guys think they're planning on lowering prices? Because 10 dollars seems way too much for the tea set.

Death Cube K
Mar 20, 2008

You're pretentious, this club sucks, I have beef. Let's fight.

They probably will at some point, but just minutes after the update launched I played a game where someone had the full Holy Roller uniform and the golden launcher so people are clearly willing to pay whatever.

Olewithmilk
Jun 30, 2006

What?

Lucinice posted:

Oh



Do you guys think they're planning on lowering prices? Because 10 dollars seems way too much for the tea set.

When you unlock that taunt does it unlock for every character? $10 is still too much for that, but it's definitely waaaaay too much if it just for one character.

Mojo Jojo
Sep 21, 2005
Hypnotist of Ladies

Hurray I won a Wascot taunt. Now to wait for trading so I can maybe get a taunt on a character I use.

Rorus Raz
Nov 13, 2011

Rambunctious Rocketeer


My group actually ran into a dev last night. It was just one dev on their side, however. We won in spite of playing Wascot particularly bad.

I admit, I am out of practice because holy gently caress Spark is fun and I've been playing him a lot lately.

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Quodio Stotes
Aug 8, 2010

by angerbot


Are they completely out of beta invites?

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