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Demerzel posted:I've only barely touched MNC but it seems like I'm reading a ton of the common moba complaints. Pretty much, yes. The difference being that SMNC is still in closed beta and has a huge amount of whiners and fanboys that just won't do something else. It's not any different from what you'd expect to find in the TF2 thread(s), even before TF2 went free to play. I would like to think SMNC going free to play, ending beta, and attracting a much larger talent pool will help. Time will tell and I hope the community gets much better. It's already much less bad than some DOTA-likes. The game really is fun. The biggest problem seems to be "people crapping on each other while learning the game" instead of any balance issues. No offense, vc. Your critiques may be true, but they mean jack-poo poo to someone who got an invite from a buddy yesterday. quote:Not that they aren't valid as the genre has a ton of issues though being an FPS solves about half of my personal complaints agreed. UltraShame fucked around with this message at Apr 10, 2012 around 06:14 |
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This was my only death of the game I don't feel like I really deserved it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbFqfrMeV88
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| # ? Apr 10, 2012 15:11 |
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Demerzel posted:I'm just wondering how many of them are just adjustment shock from MNC to SMNC aka DOTAFPS. Also how big is the difference? Could you "feed" in MNC enough to break your team like you can in SMNC? The games aren't really that similar. MNC was more of a shooter with some moba elements, it was basically a team deathmatch with some interesting mechanics thrown in, skills plus bots and turrets you have to manage. SMNC is much more like a moba where laning and resource control is emphasized over deathmatch mechanics.
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New patch downloading right now, and if the official forums denizens are to be believed:quote:Uber dev in game said it was a fix to matchmaking and other client related bugs Here ya go: UberEnt posted:Rule Change 31d (v34550) UltraShame fucked around with this message at Apr 11, 2012 around 03:35 |
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What's up with Gunners using Crack shot? I just now seem to be noticing gunners with it. Is that product really that good for them?
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KildarX posted:What's up with Gunners using Crack shot? I just now seem to be noticing gunners with it. Is that product really that good for them? Unless they fixed it, no. Crack Shot activates on just about everything, so by the time you spin up your Minigun doesn't get that great of a bonus from it. They're probably doing it to compensate for building towards RoF, or they're probably new and don't know about how Crack Shot behaves. Either way, it's the right idea, but the wrong application.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 15:00 |
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If you're into statues & gambling, Uber is offering up Bad Luck Tank statues for $5 + shipping: https://store.uberent.com/specials/...ck-tank-statue/
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How oddly appropriate it's the tank.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 19:13 |
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oldskool posted:If you're into statues & gambling, Uber is offering up Bad Luck Tank statues for $5 + shipping: What did they do? Break a mirror or somethin'?
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 19:20 |
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They're not even guaranteed broken, they just failed at the design and packaging of the statue in a hilariously fitting way. It's more cost-effective to sell the product at a 95% discount with a "This will probably be broken" disclaimer than it was to sell it to people at full price & continually have to refund people because it broke in transit.
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 19:26 |
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Vanderdeath posted:What did they do? Break a mirror or somethin'? They were way way way too heavy and terribly designed so they would just fall apart during shipping because of some weak breakpoints. I ordered one, we'll see if it can be fixed with a gluegun.
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I ordered one too before I realized it'll probably be broken, sounds like its easy enough to fix anyway. *everybody should post pictures in the thread showing how broken or unbroken their statues are once they get them, lol Taiso fucked around with this message at Apr 11, 2012 around 20:48 |
| # ? Apr 11, 2012 20:43 |
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Looking for a steam group invite. Got my invite over the weekend and hopefully I can play tonight. http://steamcommunity.com/id/ttolvelox/
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 21:59 |
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I got 2 keys I've stupidly not given away yet also
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| # ? Apr 11, 2012 22:24 |
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Steam told me I was invited from owning MNC and would have invitatiosn but the game isnt in my list nor do I have any gifts 
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 13:33 |
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Taiso posted:I ordered one too before I realized it'll probably be broken, sounds like its easy enough to fix anyway. Seriously, this is perfect for hobbyists. It's way less "broken" then any other resin kit model you'd typically buy!
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Carecat posted:Steam told me I was invited from owning MNC and would have invitatiosn but the game isnt in my list nor do I have any gifts Paste a link to your steam profile, I'll send you one.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 17:18 |
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I currently have 5 gift passes or whatever they are called for SMNC if any one wants them I'll give them to the first 5 that add me on steam. Steam account name is TheFlamingGaze. e: If there is an easier way to give the pass tell me and I'll do it that way. TheFlamingGaze fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2012 around 19:58 |
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If you do start playing this (I think they're starting to give passes away again), definitely hop on mumble/group chat and play with goons, or at least play with friends. The mechanics take a while to learn, and like other MOBAs people will get angry at you simply for being new.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 20:43 |
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Picked up one of the Tank statues too; the "typical" breaks look easy to fix, and the Tank is my favorite, most-played class. Some modelling glue, a vice, and a little bit of imagination should fix up that blue-collar dog in no time. Also heck yeah I'd love to get onto some MNC goon times, even if that means losing in new, horrific manners.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 20:56 |
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Giving this another shot after putting it down long ago for being way too different from MNC. It took me +20 games before I realized you can heal from within your spawn point. I completely missed this since I thought you had to use the regintol vendors to restore health. I mean most maps seemed to have one laying around your moneyball and I easily lost focus on my spawn point since it looked like a generic bot spawner after leaving it  .Still not a fan of its more dota than action where MNC was more action than dota. Snowballing kinda making it stand out big.
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| # ? Apr 12, 2012 21:25 |
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quote:But Rule Changes 32 are Rule Changes 32 and who are we to judge? http://www.uberent.com/forums/viewt...hp?f=44&t=20696
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 00:41 |
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That Manbaby uniform is loving PERFECT for 90% of the playerbase.
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 00:41 |
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Neither CG nor Support are free this week. 
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 01:03 |
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They're both cheap as gently caress, so you might not even notice. It's crazy that they didn't do anything to Leo, as he still can sustain a team like the other two defenders. Reduced snowballing is great, and I'm buying Man Baby Wascot ASAP.
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 01:21 |
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I bet that change to Leo's heal charge fixes it pretty well. I wonder if it goes up the same amount per target or if it has some sort of dropoff. Gonna be unable to play for a while here though, just had spine surgery. Sorry mumble-types!
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 01:23 |
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I'm not looking forward to auto-locking Leos, especially with no Support or CGs free for the week. Guess I have a week of Supporting to look forward to.  Edit: It's still weird that they didn't touch on Leo's weaknesses at all this week. He's still not very appealing as a pro.
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 01:50 |
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What the gently caress is it with all the money nerfs lately? Were they not happy with games taking less than an hour? I haven't played in a bit, so someone else will have to offer some perspective; how is this effecting things?
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 02:16 |
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So I have an Super MNC Gifts in my Inventory. It doesn't say though they are for any kind of beta or the like. It just looks like it is for the full game. Edit: So what is the point of the Gifts than? Just to spread the word? Edit 2: The store page still says this though. quote:Special Offer SlayVus fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2012 around 02:22 |
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SlayVus posted:So I have an Super MNC Gifts in my Inventory. It doesn't say though they are for any kind of beta or the like. It just looks like it is for the full game. Game is F2P, that's why it doesn't look like a beta invite.
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XboxPants posted:What the gently caress is it with all the money nerfs lately? Were they not happy with games taking less than an hour? I haven't played in a bit, so someone else will have to offer some perspective; how is this effecting things? It keeps one team from getting a massive advantage 5 minutes in and steamrolling I guess?
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XboxPants posted:What the gently caress is it with all the money nerfs lately? Were they not happy with games taking less than an hour? I haven't played in a bit, so someone else will have to offer some perspective; how is this effecting things? It's because of the horrible stomps that've been going on lately. I solo queue a lot and most of my games (at least 6 out of 10) are horrible stomps where fair-to-average players keep running across Level 90+ people that sustain themselves off of their tears. The money given from kill streaks guaranteed that these stomps would continue to snowball to the point where the opposing team could be three to four levels above. I don't know if this will work towards preventing that, but I'd love to see more fair and even games since these stomps are what's driving new players away. I've been trying my best to teach new players what to do between spawns but it's hard to encourage them when most of their games have been utterly one-sided.
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XboxPants posted:What the gently caress is it with all the money nerfs lately? Were they not happy with games taking less than an hour? I haven't played in a bit, so someone else will have to offer some perspective; how is this effecting things? People are basically upset at snowballing teams which is mostly a result of huge skill gaps between them and not the game system itself letting one side get lucky. It's really wonky to me because they're nerfing all additional kill money sources like grapples, some reason nerfing nemesis kills which was a counter snowball mechanic (hello 2-3 deaths is not worth 25 gold to "exploit it" as a dev put it), and keeping normal kill rewards the same. Maybe Kaboobi is right, but I feel like the amount of kills that are needed now in order to steamroll aren't a result of them getting ahead of levels but just a result of one team or the other simply being worse or acting dumb. The largest source of my snowballing is bot kills and bot streaks and it always has been, it's pretty rare for me to see someone else get near that pace with half the bot kills with more player kills.
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Edit: Needed to restart Steam apparently. 
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I want them to do something about backdooring, too. Maybe put a Shaved Ice turret by the bot spawns to deter commandos.
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Eigo posted:People are basically upset at snowballing teams which is mostly a result of huge skill gaps between them and not the game system itself letting one side get lucky. It's really wonky to me because they're nerfing all additional kill money sources like grapples, some reason nerfing nemesis kills which was a counter snowball mechanic (hello 2-3 deaths is not worth 25 gold to "exploit it" as a dev put it), and keeping normal kill rewards the same. Well killstreak nerfs would give a slighty longer timeframe for the losing team to recover from. So it'll take a few more bots/kills before a severe level advantage is more apparent. Much of the game is way too farm focused. Although the killstreak changes could make it that while someone can keep stomping people while they're ahead to keep'em down. It'll slowly cripple their overall farming and the losing team can scavenge money offa bots. Coming from MNC myself I really hate the addition of "levels". Falling behind is drat punishing and really pushes away any action for more farming time. Drakes fucked around with this message at Apr 13, 2012 around 03:17 |
| # ? Apr 13, 2012 02:55 |
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oh no I've reached the point where people recognize when marhom and I join a game http://steamcommunity.com/id/kaboob...813038309394124
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 04:06 |
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Kaboobi posted:oh no I've reached the point where people recognize when marhom and I join a game Yeah, I was doing some premades and people were like "they have LeMoMe and vc, what the gently caress". 
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| # ? Apr 13, 2012 04:10 |
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Patch is going live, matchmaking servers are rebooting. The changes to money earned seem like they might make a pretty big difference.
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Would be nice if coin gains for win/losses were normalized abit. Getting triple the coins for winning is pretty big.
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