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The Sixth Circuit usually posts its opinions by about 10a eastern. We're going on noon without anything. It might be happening?
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Teddybear posted:The Sixth Circuit usually posts its opinions by about 10a eastern. We're going on noon without anything. I one opinion posted today, not ours though. http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/newopn.pl
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Oct 21, 2014 17:16
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Nth Doctor posted:I one opinion posted today, not ours though. http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/newopn.pl 6th! 
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Oct 21, 2014 17:21
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Twelve by Pies posted:No it doesn't you idiots. I mean I'm used to Christians not knowing what their own holy book says but this is ridiculous. I liked this one: "Without a Christian vision of marriage, we have no Christian vision of the gospel." Which is probably the dumbest thing I've heard all year, and I teach college freshmen.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:22
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Teddybear posted:6th! They're waiting till after the election. Which is a shame because I would love to watch Rick Snyder and Bill Schutte squirm.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:24
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 The first same-sex couple to be married in Wyoming looks on while a Unitarian Universalist minister officiates the second wedding in front of the Laramie County Courthouse this morning.
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Oct 21, 2014 19:59
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First the Northeast, then the West Coast, then the Mormon Belt. Just as we all expected.
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Oct 21, 2014 20:01
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Hey, don't be so quick to forget the Midwest.
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Oct 21, 2014 20:06
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Hey, don't be so quick to forget the Midwest. The sixth circuit has. 
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My favorite Otter is not giving upquote:Idaho Gov. Butch Otter announced today that he's filing a petition with the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals for an en banc re-hearing of Idaho's same-sex marriage case. “I will continue defending Idahoans’ self determination and the will of Idaho voters who decided that traditional marriage is a core principle of our society,” Otter said in a statement. He said his office will file the petition later today. An en banc review at the 9th Circuit, because the circuit is so large, would mean that a larger 11-judge panel would re-hear the case, after a three-judge panel made the decision earlier. In smaller circuits, an en banc review is a rehearing by the full court. Otter and Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden earlier requested that 9th Circuit assign a full 11-judge panel to hear Idaho's case in the first place, rather than a three-judge panel; that request was denied. Wasden is not joining with Otter in today's petition. http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2014/oct/21/otter-says-hell-file-petition-en-banc-review-9th-circuit-ruling-idahos-gay-marriage-case/ Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 23:44
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Nth Doctor posted:The sixth circuit has. Oh, right. I forgot about you guys since I'm in seventh and my friend's moms in MI were one of the lucky couples to get married during the short window. Keep up the good fight though! Us states slightly to your west are cheering for you!
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Oct 22, 2014 00:11
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mdemone posted:I liked this one: It's a reference to the "marriage is a representation of Christ's love for the church" thing that actually is in the bible. Basically if two "churches" (women) can get married then that's like saying God isn't necessary! Or something. It is dumb, but at least that statement is at least somewhat based on something the bible actually says, unlike the other comment.
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Oct 22, 2014 00:34
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It's funny because the Romans oppressed early Christians for, among other things, trying to destroy the traditional Roman family by preaching that you should leave your spouse if you have one (or never marry if you don't) and dedicate you life to worshipping God & being chaste. The mere fact that there was a religion telling women that it was good to ignore their parents and husbands was seen as a major attack on the Roman family. It's pretty hilarious seeing the exact same arguments that had been used by the Romans to feed Christians to the lions be used by Christians to oppress lbqt people.
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Oct 22, 2014 00:49
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:My favorite Otter is not giving up We should make a quiz show. The only question will be "How much tax payer money will Otter waste?"
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Oct 22, 2014 01:08
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The prize should be the same amount taken out of Otter's personal bank account and put into the Idaho department of Education.
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Oct 22, 2014 01:10
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A judge turned down a challenge to Puerto Rico's same-sex marriage ban. Cited Baker v. Nelson as precedent. http://equalityontrial.com/2014/10/21/challenge-puerto-rico-sex-marriage-ban-dismissed/ Ninja Edit: It's being appealed to the 1st Circuit, apparently.
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Oct 22, 2014 01:15
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The 1st Circuit will overturn it.
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Oct 22, 2014 01:29
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Even if Baker v. Nelson is SCOTUS precedent, haven't precedents been replaced in the past? Plessy v. Ferguson used to be precedent, but Brown v. Board arguably overturned that, didn't it?
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Oct 22, 2014 01:35
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A 40+ year old case is precedent, but none of the recent cases that ruled contrarily are?
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Oct 22, 2014 01:39
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Baker has not been overturned by SCOTUS and was explicitly upheld in the 1st Circuit DOMA case. It's an interesting decision. The judge decided that Baker prevails, regardless of Windsor chipping away at the legal justification for treating same sex couples differently. Geidner found this amazing passage. I glossed over the giant list before I realized that was the point.  Unlike *unrelenting list* I'm doing things my way! e: 
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Oct 22, 2014 01:44
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Boy, if the 1st circuit ends up being the circuit split...
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Oct 22, 2014 02:06
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If a circuit court was to disingenuously create a split, Puerto Rico is by far the smallest affected population to be strung along in the meantime. e: Forgot Pennsylvania was a state ruling. The Virgin Islands are much smaller. UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 22, 2014 02:15
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A bit off topic, by why the gently caress is Purto Rico in the same circuit as eastern New England?
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Kilonum posted:A bit off topic, by why the gently caress is Purto Rico in the same circuit as eastern New England? I thought it was because the 1st was the smallest Circuit but it's not true. Maybe they expected the Florida population boom? Or the 1st had fewer cases per capita?
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Oct 22, 2014 04:25
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Honestly I think it was to dissuade all those uppity hispanics from appealing their cases due to the longass trip to Boston it would entail. Made even more hellish by the difference in climate in winter.
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Oct 22, 2014 05:44
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:I thought it was because the 1st was the smallest Circuit but it's not true. Maybe they expected the Florida population boom? Or the 1st had fewer cases per capita? It's probably just because the circuit is the eastmost available. They also sit in PR for 2 weeks a year (in March and November) apparently.
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Oct 22, 2014 05:54
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The 5th circuit set a date for oral arguments on Texas and Louisiana to begin on the week of Jan 5th. We won't know who will be on the three judge panel until the week before arguments.
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Oct 29, 2014 04:11
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Kansas' ban struck down, but the judge put a stay on until the 11th.
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Nov 4, 2014 23:12
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Not a lot going on in the ruling. The Utah case (Kitchen) is binding in the 10th Circuit. Time for a last minute surge by Brownback!
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Nov 4, 2014 23:26
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More good news! Be ready to add one more holdout to the count http://www.thestate.com/2014/11/03/3788090/exclusive-federal-judge-gergel.html
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Nov 5, 2014 05:42
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Missouri state judge struck down their ban, licenses already being issued
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Nov 5, 2014 23:09
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Chris James 2 posted:Missouri state judge struck down their ban, licenses already being issued Equality in my home state! I seriously thought MO and KS would be among the last...
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Nov 6, 2014 01:57
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Hurry the gently caress up Kentucky
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Nov 6, 2014 02:12
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So all we need is one of Ohio, Kentucky, or Tennessee? Then the thread goal will be achieved and Uncle Sam will come down from the heavens and give everyone a fist bump.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:23
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Lutha Mahtin posted:So all we need is one of Ohio, Kentucky, or Tennessee? Then the thread goal will be achieved and Uncle Sam will come down from the heavens and fist everyone.
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Nov 6, 2014 14:27
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Back to SCOTUS we go! (6th Circuit upholds marriage bans) http://www.afer.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2014-11-06-MI-.pdf
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Nov 6, 2014 22:29
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6th Circuit just split, upheld the marriage bans in MI, OH, TN, and KY. Time for the SCOTUS smackdown.  http://www.afer.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2014-11-06-MI-.pdf If I understand correctly the SCOTUS can play the same game they have been playing and immediately punt it back to the 6th Circuit, with a "Nope, try again!", right? Three Olives fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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From the opinion:quote:When the courts do not let the people resolve new social issues like this one, they perpetuate the idea that the heroes in these change events are judges and lawyers. Better in this instance, we think, to allow change through the customary political processes, in which the people, gay and straight alike, become the heroes of their own stories by meeting each other not as adversaries in a court system but as fellow citizens seeking to resolve a new social issue in a fair-minded way. IANAL but isn't this a really weird reasoning? Like, in Loving v. Virginia, I'm sure the plaintiffs were fine with judges and lawyers being the heroes and not have their rights granted piecemeal on a state-by-state basis.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:42
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So can SCOTUS still accept the case now, or do we have to wait until their next term?
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It's all of the marriage cases in the Sixth outstanding consolidated (but titled as DeBoer v. Snyder). So now, it's up to the Notorious R.B.G. to get the other three liberals to give cert to Love v. Beshear because it's the best case name ever.
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