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FAUXTON posted:Yes.
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FAUXTON posted:Yes. Oh no, we're doomed Dooooooooooooooooooooooed
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:You have to remember that they believe their opinions match those of a being who is Correct by default. However much they claim otherwise, it is literally beyond their understanding that their beliefs are opinions and not facts ingrained into the very fabric of the universe. Like one of the things you posted earlier, it's a fantastic way to avoid facing up to being wrong about anything. Well even by the metric of a correct by default deity...I've yet to see a good reason to justify using that as the basis for policy and law that applies to non-believers of that faith
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 15:47 |
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jivjov posted:Well even by the metric of a correct by default deity...I've yet to see a good reason to justify using that as the basis for policy and law that applies to non-believers of that faith
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 15:49 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Americans protest gay marriage by eating fried chicken. Fried chicken where one of the prime ingredients is powdered sugar.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 15:53 |
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Chief Justice Roy Moore has been tying himself in knots in interviews trying to say that he doesn't support the decision and it is unconstitutional while also clarifying that he isn't telling people what to do but in his opinion they shouldn't do anything but please don't marry the gays. He's doing his best to leave himself legally free and clear while still pushing for probate judges to take one for the team. 30+ Alabama counties are ignoring him, and 22 are acting confused and refusing to issue licenses.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:27 |
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The prevailing thought now should be that with gay marriage legal and acceptable in the United States, it should be easier to pass laws to protect LGBTs, right? Specifically in workplace discrimination, homelessness (not sure how you can make laws to support ending that), and bullying. I know it was talked about that there's plenty of issues facing LGBTs outside of marriage and there was a thread about it, and I think it's time America begins talking about them in hopes that people don't resort to "jeeze, you got your gay marriages, why do you want more?" type situations.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:31 |
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jivjov posted:One of those same guys from my last photo just replied with the following, and I honestly think it broke me a little bit: This just seems like Rick Santorum's "It is what it is " argument
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:35 |
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Onion outdoes itselfquote:Obama: 'Help Us Destroy Jesus And Start A New Age Of Liberal Darkness' http://www.theonion.com/article/obama-help-us-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-29478
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:36 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Onion outdoes itself That was from 2012. The Onion, as usual, predicting the future.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:40 |
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If a god existed and didn't like gays it wouldn't make gays. QED. Unless it was a mean god(s) and just wanted to torture people, in which case we can't fight it anyway so don't worry. Lol cults.
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effectual posted:If a god existed and didn't like gays it wouldn't make gays. QED. Unless it was a mean god(s) and just wanted to torture people, in which case we can't fight it anyway so don't worry. You should post some of these sick burns on reddit for internet fun points, bruh
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:48 |
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Cingulate posted:There isn't really any detail on which the Bible has only one perspective. Don't forget that the Bible asupports marrying children too, since there is explicitly no age of consent given whatsoever, and in context, Israel was definitively told to kill boys of neighboring nations but to take virgins (read: girls) as wives for themselves when conquering nations.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 16:58 |
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LLJKSiLk posted:Chief Justice Roy Moore has been tying himself in knots in interviews trying to say that he doesn't support the decision and it is unconstitutional while also clarifying that he isn't telling people what to do but in his opinion they shouldn't do anything but please don't marry the gays. He's doing his best to leave himself legally free and clear while still pushing for probate judges to take one for the team. Man is such a coward. Either believe your dumb poo poo and have the courage to act on it, or stop pretending like you believe it.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:27 |
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Just in case anyone wants to make a bunch of money suing the state of Texas...quote:A North Texas county clerk said she has no intention of issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:29 |
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jivjov posted:The best response I could formulate that wasn't just laughing in his face was "mathematics is not an issue of civil rights. If your neighbor believes that 2+2=3, he's factually and demonstrably incorrect" Call 'em out on the math. The demonstration part is where their analogy falls apart, because it's dependent on the person actually being able to explain why the basic math is solid, which they almost certainly cannot do. Proving that 1+1=2 is not trivial, and the proof won't be found in whatever grade school book the person in question thinks they're referencing. Which is the reason for the immediate retreat to "my personal belief". They're borrowing legitimacy from something that is widely recognized to be true and can be well understood, but that they haven't bothered to actually learn. Without learning it, "2+2=4" can be replaced with "some random poo poo somebody found in a book". So the response is that no, they don't get a free pass because they picked a book with some poo poo in it, you have to actually think about this stuff. Also, consequences matter. Refusing to examine your personal belief that 1+1=2, when challenged, makes you someone uninterested in number theory. Refusing to examine a personal belief about others' interaction with society that involves real impact to their happiness and well being, when challenged, kinda starts to sound like bigotry! eviltastic fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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quote:Hood County Clerk Katie Lang
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:37 |
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Where the gently caress do people get off saying "marriage comes from the Bible" anyway? No it doesn't. Do they think that the ancient Sumerians and Chinese just went around hooking up or something? I mean, exclusively? Oh that's right, these people aren't ready to admit that the world is old enough for the Sumerians and ancient Chinese to have existed.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:41 |
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SedanChair posted:Where the gently caress do people get off saying "marriage comes from the Bible" anyway? No it doesn't. Do they think that the ancient Sumerians and Chinese just went around hooking up or something? I mean, exclusively? Hahaha that's actually a funny idea that it's not just dinosaurs but actual documented human civilisations that are in contradiction with young earth creationism.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:44 |
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Three Olives posted:Just in case anyone wants to make a bunch of money suing the state of Texas... "marriage is for one man and one woman because it did derive from the Bible" The concept of marriage is older and more widespread that that. E: beaten.
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SedanChair posted:Oh that's right, these people aren't ready to admit that the world is old enough for the Sumerians and ancient Chinese to have existed. You don't even have to go that far back; the first missionaries showed up in Japan in 1549 and there are much older writings from there than that which go into explicit detail about courtship rituals and the like. gently caress's sake, Native Americans would be even more recent.
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OwlFancier posted:Hahaha that's actually a funny idea that it's not just dinosaurs but actual documented human civilisations that are in contradiction with young earth creationism. http://www.theonion.com/article/sumerians-look-on-in-confusion-as-god-creates-worl-2879
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:49 |
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It was amazing seeing the difference between mine and my wife's facebook feeds. I grew up in northern Idaho which was fairly conservative but honestly decently socially liberal. Makes sense that northern Idaho/eastern Washington was a major epicenter for the libertarian/Tea Party movement. Meanwhile, my wife grew up in southern Alabama. Many of her old contacts and especially much of her family is incredibly conservative/religious. Seeing all this helped nourish me. Reading it made me feel revitalized as if years were being added to my life.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 17:55 |
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lol, John Roberts dissented you idiot
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:05 |
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univbee posted:You don't even have to go that far back; the first missionaries showed up in Japan in 1549 and there are much older writings from there than that which go into explicit detail about courtship rituals and the like. gently caress's sake, Native Americans would be even more recent. Part of the reason why Japan and China didn't take to the missionaries like the Philippines and South America did. A bunch of priets/Jesuits show up and start with "The world is only 4000 years old! God made it in 7 days and his son came to Earth to die for you (but on the other side of the world" Asians: "Our history goes back much further then that, we even have records to prove it." "loving illiterate inferior savages, you're all going to hell!"
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:06 |
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God those people are drama queens. I guess I should be grateful for my inability to believe, I can't imagine going through life as scared on a daily basis as these people seem to be.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:07 |
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Kinda want to start the Filial Society for the Inhumation of Jesus Christ now. Just to see how many people join it without realising what it means.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:10 |
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A Pale Horse posted:God those people are drama queens. Yeah, it's loving crazy. My wife used to be super religious just like them when she was younger too. When Katrina happened and her paster attributed it to divine vengeance for the gays and people in Louisiana living a life of sin, she stopped attending church regularly. What's worse is that her sister is married to a church man (he's only a music minister, but still). So basically my wife has to just remain fairly silent on a lot of these issues or else her family will basically disown her. They were not pleased when she originally was dating me. To them I was a Satan-worshipping atheist that wanted to lead her astray.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:12 |
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I love this Louic CK bit on gay marriage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-JZSyhWSc (language)
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:19 |
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Mordiceius posted:Yeah, it's loving crazy. There's a time to keep family and there is a time to cut ties. Its time for the latter.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:21 |
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alnilam posted:lol, John Roberts dissented you idiot I really, really love that this keeps happening.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:23 |
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pentyne posted:Part of the reason why Japan and China didn't take to the missionaries like the Philippines and South America did. A bunch of priets/Jesuits show up and start with yeah, every Jesuit I've ever met has brought up their belief in young earth creationism as the first topic of conversation
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:26 |
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John Roberts Uber-Liberal.
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CommieGIR posted:There's a time to keep family and there is a time to cut ties. Haha. Her family doesn't hate me. Her mom and dad actually like me a lot. Her sister and the sister's husband are very friendly/polite to me now and have never been confrontational with me. Though one of her Christmas presents from her sister was a book about reaffirming her faith (which my wife loving hated). Anyway, apologies for the derail. I just wanted to share the views of bigots.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:28 |
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Darko posted:Don't forget that the Bible asupports marrying children too, since there is explicitly no age of consent given whatsoever, yes, the bible is a sentient creature that has opinions, and if it does not explicitly rule something out, that means it's a-ok. this is what all jews and christians believe.
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Nonsense posted:John Roberts Uber-Liberal.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 18:34 |
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Court Clerks across the South declare homosexuality "Haram," cite first amendment in application of "Sharia Law" regarding issuance of marriage licenses.
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seiferguy posted:The prevailing thought now should be that with gay marriage legal and acceptable in the United States, it should be easier to pass laws to protect LGBTs, right? Specifically in workplace discrimination, homelessness (not sure how you can make laws to support ending that), and bullying. The goodish news is that LGBT rights (or opposition to them, rather) is being framed as a religious freedom thing instead of "personal responsibility" so you still might be able to get those same allies that are iffy on religion to support rights bills.
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# ? Jun 30, 2015 19:02 |
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FAUXTON posted:Court Clerks across the South declare homosexuality "Haram," cite first amendment in application of "Sharia Law" regarding issuance of marriage licenses. if the hobby lobby corporation can be a fundamentalist christian, clearly this county clerk's office can be the reincarnated ghost of strom thurmond!! freedom
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yes, the bible is a sentient creature that has opinions, and if it does not explicitly rule something out, that means it's a-ok. this is what all jews and christians believe. The law of Moses goes into great detail about what a woman does on her period, how much a man has to pay the father of a woman that he raped, what time you have to bring your sheep in, etc., but doesn't have an age of consent, or even any STANDARDS that apply to sex with teenagers or younger. There's no question that it's completely ambivalent on statutory issues.
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