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Running Android doesn't mean running the full Google stack (including their play store) though. The BBB can run Android and hasn't really set the world on fire, so I'm not sure it would change much if the Pi ran a version of Android without any Google apps. I've done a bit of Android development and IMHO if you're just hacking on personal projects I would stuck with Raspbian and all the tools available in a full Linux distro. Doing all your development in Java gets annoying, and although the tooling is getting better there are still some really rough edges around stuff like testing in Android. The news is great for getting access to all the capabilities of the GPU though. Stuff like the pi camera have haven't been fully integrated into Linux because not much was known about the GPU interface. Hopefully this release will help change some of that for the better.
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I doubt it, Netflix doesn't support Linux today because it uses Silverlight for DRM-controlled streaming video. There's talk of them moving to HTML5 once the DRM issues can be sorted out, but until then Netflix is only on Windows, Mac, and devices they control.
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Check out package netflix-desktop in ubuntu, repository ppa:pipelight/stable. I doubt you will get it working on ARM devices but x86/x64 devices do work. Note that it uninstalls regular WINE installation since they needed some custom patches. The Broadcom release is good news. Maybe we will finally see more GPU accelerated stuff. Or maybe they will fix the USB drivers which have been bugged since release. I did some looking and I'm pretty sure that's what's causing lovely performance as a NAS or sabnzbd box, and the random "system hangs" after a couple days (actually network crapouts). For reference, put too much load on the USB subsystem and things start breaking, specifically it starts dropping USB packets and/or the network stack craps out. It's not even a weird edge case, since the ethernet controller and the SD card are on the USB bus virtually anything you do will hit this use case. Recent firmware forces the bus speed down to a crawl to prevent the network crap-outs. As mentioned, this bug has been documented since a few weeks after release and up to this point the response has been "*shrug* what do you expect from a $35 device" and flak from the RPI team about whether this behavior is really "broken" or not. Gee, the other $35 ARM mini PC manufacturers sure seem to do OK. I mean I feel for them a little bit since Broadcom's documentation is so bad, but they adamantly refused to consider any other supplier because they were so gung-ho on Broadcom, so they really made that bed for themselves. This documentation should have been released two years ago. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Google apps can be downloaded and installed separately from the ROM. Cynanogen mod for example doesn't include it, you have to install separately from the bootloader. BBB is a smaller community as well, it doesn't have the widespread chatter around it like the Raspberry Pi. The best marketing tool is the people who use it and Pi users are very chatty about their projects. Android is just another feather in their cap for stuff to develop with. But really, the main focus on Android is it's use as a touchscreen ready interface. Making your own dashboard car GPS is much easier with Android than fumbling with any Linux made one. Most car builds I've seen use clunky wireless touchpad/keyboards to control the mouse.
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mod sassinator posted:I doubt it, Netflix doesn't support Linux today because it uses Silverlight for DRM-controlled streaming video. There's talk of them moving to HTML5 once the DRM issues can be sorted out, but until then Netflix is only on Windows, Mac, and devices they control. I mean if someone gets Android running, then it's just a matter of dual booting.
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PS. Love the cabin posted:I mean if someone gets Android running, then it's just a matter of dual booting. You do not "dual boot" a raspi. You just swap the SD cards. On the other hand, android runs "natively" in the cubietruck (it comes with android preinstalled). The first thing you want to do with a cubie is to install linux instead...
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Amberskin posted:You do not "dual boot" a raspi. You just swap the SD cards. Compiling your own kernel is a terrible experience. If anyone cares, I'll throw up a kernel+dtb+u-boot which enables HYP
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Amberskin posted:You do not "dual boot" a raspi. You just swap the SD cards. I dual boot mine. I have raspbmc and raspian on one SD card and switch between them with noobs.
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CygnusTM posted:I dual boot mine. I have raspbmc and raspian on one SD card and switch between them with noobs. Hmm I didn't know you can use NOOBS to create a custom multisystem SD... I thought it was just for the install card. Nice one.
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YouTuber posted:Check your HDMI-CEC settings by using a keyboard. Your sound may have just been cycled from HDMI to the Analog jack. Check in with the XBMC thread over in Inspect your Gadgets. This sounds all software. Yeah, that turned out to be the case. Tested it out with analog sound output and it was all good. Took some time dicking about in config files getting it working again, but all sorted now.
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Has anyone had success moving their root fs to a usb stick? I tried a couple of tutorials but I seem to brick it at some point. I've managed to get the usb stick formatted with a copy of the install on it, but when I switch it over in fstab and cmdline.txt it won't boot any more. I'll try to post some examples of my fdisk and configuration files after this next attempt.df -h posted:pi@raspberrypi ~ $ df -h fstab on the usb stick posted:proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 cmdline.txt on sdcard posted:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait ItBurns fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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From a quick glance your cmdline.txt still has root=/dev/mmcblk0p2, also your usb stick would be /dev/sda(part #) so if it's on the first partition it'd be /dev/sda1.
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PS. Love the cabin posted:From a quick glance your cmdline.txt still has root=/dev/mmcblk0p2, also your usb stick would be /dev/sda(part #) so if it's on the first partition it'd be /dev/sda1. Ah yeah, that's from a fresh install. I had it set to /dev/sda1p1, which is the only partition on the usb drive and has the copy of the fs from the sd card. Edit: Changing it to root=/dev/sda1p1 gives me this... 
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Mar 8, 2014 04:30
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Unless something changed in the last few kernel versions you don't access partitions like that for USB sticks and things like HDDs. Partition 1 on your USB stick is going to be /dev/sda1, 2 being /dev/sda2, ect... So if your / is on partition 1 of your USB stick you'd put "root=/dev/sda1".
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PS. Love the cabin posted:Unless something changed in the last few kernel versions you don't access partitions like that for USB sticks and things like HDDs. Changing it to /dev/sda1 fixed the booting problem. I have some errors about the file system, but hopefully I can work those out. Thanks!
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Just a quick heads up, rpi-update has broken my USB root setup every single time so far. I'd back everything up before trying to update.
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PS. Love the cabin posted:Just a quick heads up, rpi-update has broken my USB root setup every single time so far. I was under the assumption that rpi-update was a jury-rigged hack and that it was no longer needed now.
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YouTuber posted:I was under the assumption that rpi-update was a jury-rigged hack and that it was no longer needed now. What, if anything, has replaced it?
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Anyone know a decent bluetooth headset and adapter that work with the Pi? I need one to use with pocketsphinx for a robot. I have heard it is sort of hard to get it working but haven't look at it myself. And if the headset have an on/off button would be a nice bonus since the environment is quite noisy.
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ItBurns posted:What, if anything, has replaced it? You should get firmware updates via the raspbian repositories if I'm not wrong. I have got at least one (and it broke my setup because I didn't had the /boot partition mounted, so it dropped its stuff into the /boot directory of my root HD).
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Amberskin posted:You should get firmware updates via the raspbian repositories if I'm not wrong. I have got at least one (and it broke my setup because I didn't had the /boot partition mounted, so it dropped its stuff into the /boot directory of my root HD). That sucks. Would adding the mmcblk0p1 partition back to fstab as /boot prevent this?
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ItBurns posted:That sucks. Would adding the mmcblk0p1 partition back to fstab as /boot prevent this? Yes, it does. Or do the manual mount before updating.
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YouTuber posted:Check your HDMI-CEC settings by using a keyboard. Your sound may have just been cycled from HDMI to the Analog jack. Check in with the XBMC thread over in Inspect your Gadgets. This sounds all software. Thanks for this info. Mine also stopped working and while we control it using Yatse for Android, it's still nice to use the TV remote when a phone isn't nearby. Going to give this a try tonight.
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Beaglebone Black finally has native Debian support  *digs BBB out of disused box*
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Hadlock posted:Beaglebone Black finally has native Debian support You should be using FreeBSD anyway 
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Does anyone know if there are plans to have the camera module support exposures longer than 0.8s when the shutter is manually controlled?
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I've moved, and I don't have a wireless dongle for my pi. Has there been any more work done on wayland/weston? I don't want to pull it away from my router and buy a wifi dongle unless it is more usable outside of a shell.
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keyvin posted:I've moved, and I don't have a wireless dongle for my pi. Has there been any more work done on wayland/weston? I don't want to pull it away from my router and buy a wifi dongle unless it is more usable outside of a shell. I've heard nothing new about it. The drivers being released may end up doing something later down the line but I've not heard of anyone claiming the 10k USD bounty yet.
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I know the Raspberry Pi isn't a speed demon or anything, but moving the mouse on a fresh install of Raspbian shouldn't use up 100% of the CPU and bog the entire system down, right?
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Recycle Bin posted:I know the Raspberry Pi isn't a speed demon or anything, but moving the mouse on a fresh install of Raspbian shouldn't use up 100% of the CPU and bog the entire system down, right? No, it should not. What does "top" say?
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Amberskin posted:No, it should not. What does "top" say? 99% odds it says "Xorg" from the graphics not being accelerated for some reason.
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Just formatted and reinstalled and it looks like that solved the problem
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evol262 posted:99% odds it says "Xorg" from the graphics not being accelerated for some reason. For some reason? I thought there was zero hardware acceleration in X at the moment? Unless I've missed some update...
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When putting XBMC on the Raspberry Pi, do I need to install the NOOBs onto the SD Card first or is there a separate OX/XBMC software that I install on there instead?
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Noobs comes with openelec and raspbmc, both of which are distros that use xbmc. Now if you have an operating system already that you want to install xbmc on, that you can't do with noobs as far as I'm aware.
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Nvidia's releasing a high-performance Rpi-alike, the Jetson TK1. Features 4+1 core 1.6ghz processor, 16gb memory, USB 3.0, SATA, half-wide Mini PCI-E, gigabit ethernet, and 192 core CUDA gpu. The Pro version features a mSATA slot with wifi, bluetooth, and GPS modules. https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1 http://www.nvidia.com/object/jetson-automotive-development-platform.html This is much more powerful than the Parallela and should have great code portability. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Nvidia's releasing a high-performance Rpi-alike, the Jetson TK1. Features 4+1 core 1.6ghz processor, 16gb memory, USB 3.0, SATA, half-wide Mini PCI-E, gigabit ethernet, and 192 core CUDA gpu. The Pro version features a mSATA slot with wifi, bluetooth, and GPS modules. 192 cores at 192 dollars... Definitely not in the same league as the Rpi. Not even the same league as the Cubietruck. Having said that, this thing has to rock!
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The pro version is intended for prototyping automobile systems like driver assist and GPS. They're only selling it to people developing applications specifically for automobiles, and they're probably selling it at a loss, since they intend for manufacturers to order custom hardware from them at a later date. They also mention that it's overpowered on purpose, and the actual products OEMs buy will universally have way lower specs. That being said, they're not going to sell the pro kit to you unless you're working/contracting for Ford or Toyota or some automobile A/V company. Edit: VVV Oh, I see, I was looking at the pro version, which is an automotive kit. Updated accordingly. VVV Double Punctuation fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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dpbjinc posted:That's intended for prototyping automobile systems like driver assist and GPS. They're only selling it to people developing applications specifically for automobiles, and they're probably selling it at a loss, since they intend for manufacturers to order custom hardware from them at a later date. They also mention that it's overpowered on purpose, and the actual products OEMs buy will universally have way lower specs. That being said, they're not going to sell it to you unless you're working/contracting for Ford or Toyota or some automobile A/V company. Huh? They're going to sell it at Newegg and Microcenter, so it's not some closed thing. That said it's certainly not going to be something most people want. To use the power of the GPU you'll need to use CUDA and other GPU acceleration APIs, so it's really meant for stuff like video processing. It's not going to be a board you can slap XBMC on and watch videos on your TV easily. Will probably make an interesting board for people that mine cryptocurrencies though.
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