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That's right, my favorite show of all time - Sliders. The show's five-season run spans two networks and eight cast members over a span of six years and eighty-eight episodes - and has the notoriety of being one of the first shows to really be hosed over by the FOX network.  Originally starring Jerry O'Connell (Quinn Mallory), Sabrina Lloyd (Wade Welles), Cleavant Derricks (Rembrandt Brown), and John Rhys-Davies (Dr. Maximilian Arturo), the first two years were filmed and produced as one single season, but FOX decided to put the show on hiatus for nearly a year after the "Luck of the Draw," the 1995 episode that became the finale of Season One. Many episodes in the first two seasons were shown completely out of order - even when costuming and dialog showed that episodes were supposed to be aired in a certain sequence. FOX finally decided to cancel Sliders after the second season. Season three came as a surprise to FOX, after a massive letter-writing campaign brought the show back from the dead. For the third season, FOX moved the show's production from Vancouver, Canada, to Los Angeles where the day-to-day operations could be handled in a more "hands-on" way. Despite a number of decent episodes, season three is considered a low point in the show's production - after a series of rip-offs "homages" to Hollywood movies (Twister, Species, Mad Max, The Island of Dr. Moreau) - the biggest offense to the fan community happened: John Rhys-Davies was fired. (I will defend a number of season four and five episodes as being pretty great. So - at least to me - it's not "all crap" after Arturo's death.) Replacing him was newcomer Kari Wuhrer (Maggie Beckett), who was instantly disliked for her role as what seemed to be only a bad-acting sexbomb (by the end of Season Five, though, she had matured into both a passable actor and a decent character, leaving her early character's image behind). At the end of Season Three, Sliders was officially canceled for good by the FOX network. Over a year later, the series would finally be revived... on the SciFi Channel. In June 1998, Sliders made it's Season Four premiere with "Genesis," reuniting Quinn and Maggie (who had been separated from the group in the S3 finale) back with Rembrandt - but not Wade. While the storyline was sufficient to explain Sabrina Lloyd's sudden absence from the show, the real reason Wade disappeared from the series was a behind-the-scenes rivalry between her and co-star Kari Wuhrer that had started to develop in Season Three. Rumor has it that Lloyd gave producer David Peckinpah an ultimatum - her or Wuhrer - and she lost. Halfway through Season Four, Jerry O'Connell's brother, Charlie O’Connell, joined the cast as Quinn's lost-to-the-dimensions brother, Colin Mallory. The O'Connell brothers continued with the series until the end of Season Four, where Jerry demanded that he be made an executive producer on the series - a demand that was denied by the network due to O'Connell's lack of experience - and so, when the series was renewed for a fifth season, Jerry and Charlie O'Connell left Sliders. The fifth and final season brought Derricks and Wuhrer to the forefront of the show, with Rembrandt becoming the new 'leader' of the group. Rounding out the new cast were actors Tembi Locke (Dr. Diana Davis) and Robert Floyd (Mallory). They weren't the best actors in the world, but they brought a new dynamic to the series. Sliders was a surprise ratings success for the SciFi Channel - a close second behind Farscape at the time, even without the O'Connell brothers. The plans were for Sliders to get a SIXTH season on SciFi, but due to a combination of budget cutbacks and contractual obligations to other shows - SciFi, despite the desire to renew the show for another season, was forced to let the series go after the fifth season finale aired in February 2000.    Let's meet the cast!  Quinn Mallory (Jerry O'Connell): A grad-school physics student of Arturo, Quinn was attempting to build an anti-gravity device when he accidentally created a portal between universes in his basement, taking Arturo, Wade, and Rembrandt with him.  Wade Welles (Sabrina Lloyd): Wade worked at a computer superstore with Quinn, and she also had a not-so-subtle crush on him. Aside from a brief moment when she and Quinn thought they were going to die, they never got together as a couple, but remained close friends nonetheless.  Dr. Maximilian Arturo (John Rhys-Davies): Quinn's physics professor, Arturo was the elder of the group, and often worked with Quinn to devise new theories and attempts to get the group home.  Rembrandt Brown (Cleavant Derricks): A former gospel and R & B singer nicknamed "The Cryin' Man" (because he often cried real tears at concerts), Remmy was often the heart and soul of the group - no pun intended. He was often a fish out of water in the many foreign situations the group found themselves in, but he eventually took a leadership role and saved the day on many occasions.  Maggie Beckett (Kari Wuhrer): Formerly a military captain on her Earth, she joined the group after Arturo's departure, initially using sliding as a way to track down the man who murdered her husband before her Earth was destroyed. With no home left to return to, she eventually decided to stay with the group, supporting Quinn and Remmy along the way.  Colin Mallory (Charlie O'Connell): Separated from his brother at birth, Colin was hidden away on a world resembling Amish culture until Quinn came looking for him. Colin was continually amazed by new ideas and new technologies, and he was an amateur inventor in his own right.  Dr. Diana Davis (Tembi Locke): An expert in interdimensional theory, Davis was the protege of Dr. Oberon Geiger, who was attempting to use sliding technology to wreak havoc and for personal gain in his own world. After he escaped into the interdimensional void, Davis joined the group to track him down and stop him.  Mallory (Robert Floyd): A fraternal double of 'our' Quinn Mallory (same father, different mother), Mallory was merged with 'our' Quinn during an experiment conducted by Dr. Geiger to attempt to cure his muscular dystrophy. This version of Quinn Mallory was not a scientist, and relied on Diana Davis for any insights into scientific matters. --- It only took eight years, but all five seasons have finally been released on DVD. There were some LONG gaps there: S1/2 (Aug. 2004), S3 (July 2005), S4 (March 2008), and S5: (Jan. 2012).   As of February 24, 2012, the show is available on Netflix Instant, Amazon on Demand, and the first three seasons are on Hulu. Also, go check out Transmodiar's cool site (which has been around FOREVER), Earth Prime. AND, I have the series GIF'd. You're welcome.quote:
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 04:06 |
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| # ? May 20, 2013 01:27 |
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Don't know where to begin on this show. Loved it and simultaneously hated it during the later seasons. As for Quinn/Wade, it was pretty clear they were heading towards a romance at the end of season 2. There were so many worlds where Quinn and Wade were already a couple and they both clearly had feelings for each other. Then bam, season 3, and it's like they may as well have been strangers. Lots of things changed in season 3 - Rembrandt was suddenly in the Navy, Quinn was flirting with married women, still don't know if Arturo was ever really cured of that brain disease he had. Quinn also changed from this goofball to having a look closer to a model. I understand that most of it was because of the new EP and the change to LA but there were lots of unresolved plot threads like Logan Sinclair coming back and why was Colonel Rickman British - he's a colonel in the US Marines? Season 4, I felt like even though the storytelling was closer to how it was in season 1/2, there was still some ridiculous stuff. Like in "The Alternateville Horror" episode when they discover an alternate Rembrandt who invented sliding and alternate Quinn was Austin Powers or something. The whole setup with Quinn being from a parallel earth not from the same earth as Wade, Remmy and Arturo just rubbed me the wrong way and was clearly a way for Charlie O'Connell to be written into the show. To this day, I still cringe when Quinn delivers the line at the end of Genesis - "I HAVE A BROTHER!" Not to mention that Colin seemed to be able to fix any technology despite being raised in an Amish world (why was he left there anyway). I also felt that changing the Kromaggs into neo-nazis was a mistake. They were more threatening as the race who spoke telepathically and controlled humans in Invasion, rather than a modern day retelling of Germany in WWII. The only thing funny about that was at the start of Season 5 when they have body doubles for Quinn and Colin and the explanation is that Colin is destroyed spread out over the multiverse and no one seems to care that much. I don't mean to complain about the show, because there is a lot I really do love about it. My favorite episode is probably "The Guardian", and in terms of an action episode, "Rules of the Game" is pretty cool as well. I have a soft spot for "The Good, the Bad, and the Wealthy" and "The Young and the Relentless". Finally for those who want to check the series out on Netflix, it's missing a bunch of episodes from season 1 for some reason. Not sure about Amazon or Hulu though.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:04 |
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One of my favorite shows ever. Deserves all the love it gets. Glad to see it getting a sticky thread. People need to watch it. At least the first couple seasons.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:30 |
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Hermi On Me posted:Like in "The Alternateville Horror" episode when they discover an alternate Rembrandt who invented sliding and alternate Quinn was Austin Powers or something. I liked that episode, but mostly BECAUSE it was goofy. It was also their Halloween episode, I think, so I remember not taking it super-seriously. Then again, one of my favorite episodes was the one where Rembrandt was the biggest musician in the world because we got to see him perform Tears in my Fro, so maybe nobody should take my word on anything. But yeah. I liked this show, but sometimes it really tried to keep me from doing that.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:40 |
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It was an interesting show but I never quite got the in universe explanation as to why they had to leave when the timer went off. Originally the device could open and close wormholes at will so why couldn't they just find an amenable world and fix it? I mean, later on they show that it can be copied since they switch devices. I think the goofiest thing they did was the whole story arc involving Quinn's parents not actually being from "our" Earth and instead were from a world that had sliding technology as well.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:41 |
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Defiance Industries posted:I liked that episode, but mostly BECAUSE it was goofy. It was also their Halloween episode, I think, so I remember not taking it super-seriously. Then again, one of my favorite episodes was the one where Rembrandt was the biggest musician in the world because we got to see him perform Tears in my Fro, so maybe nobody should take my word on anything. muscles like this? posted:It was an interesting show but I never quite got the in universe explanation as to why they had to leave when the timer went off. Originally the device could open and close wormholes at will so why couldn't they just find an amenable world and fix it? I mean, later on they show that it can be copied since they switch devices. I think it was explained in the "Summer of Love" episode, which was supposed to be the actual episode 2 after the pilot - they're all wearing the same clothes as the pilot. Basically they reason out that if they wait for the timer to reach 0, they have a greater chance of sliding onto their homeworld. Whereas if they open it early, it seems to fry the timer - which can be dangerous if they slide onto a world that doesn't have technology to fix it. quote:I think the goofiest thing they did was the whole story arc involving Quinn's parents not actually being from "our" Earth and instead were from a world that had sliding technology as well.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:50 |
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I loved this show and it was definitely one of the first non-comedy shows I remember following. I didn't follow it to Sci-Fi and I remember being wholly confused when I tried to drop in on a Season 5 episode. Is it worth going past the end of the Fox seasons?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 05:50 |
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Maybe season 4. There's a few good ones in there. I can't really remember anything about 5.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:00 |
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Thinking about the show for the first time in years is making me remember some episodes that I thought were pretty good at the time. Like the one where they slide onto a world that was going to be hit by an asteroid before the timer went off so Arturo had to re-invent nuclear weapons because in their WWII the scientists at the Manhattan Project sabotaged their own work. Or the one where Wade accidentally won the lottery but on that world doing so only made you rich for about a week before they killed you.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:09 |
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From what I remember from watching a couple episodes on Netflix, they use the as-broadcast order, not the production/continuity order, so you'll need to shuffle through the episodes to actually figure out what is going on.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:09 |
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For a second there I thought Fox really screwed over Sliders putting season 6 10 years into the future.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:18 |
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muscles like this? posted:Thinking about the show for the first time in years is making me remember some episodes that I thought were pretty good at the time. Like the one where they slide onto a world that was going to be hit by an asteroid before the timer went off so Arturo had to re-invent nuclear weapons because in their WWII the scientists at the Manhattan Project sabotaged their own work. Or the one where Wade accidentally won the lottery but on that world doing so only made you rich for about a week before they killed you. Holy poo poo. That reminded me of the guy who Arturo invented the bomb with. Conrad Bennish, Jr. Can't believe I forgot a name that awesome. Apparently he was going to become a series regular at one point?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:18 |
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I liked the show for a few episodes, and then got disinterested over time... school probably. Anyhoo, seeing the show in passing while it was on, it seems like it was always cro-mags...in forests. did this take up like a significant portion of the show or something?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:55 |
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Yeah the later seasons had a sorta ongoing story arc with the cro-mags, which is also where I stopped liking the show. I'm watching the pilot on Netflix right now and it isn't half bad for TV.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 06:56 |
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I dearly loved this series when I was a kid, but I could never forgive them for writing off Arturo. I barely made it through the rest of that season and couldn't stand the switch to Scifi. Blistering idiots.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 08:48 |
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Why do networks air shows out of order like that? I'll never understand, it never seems to work out.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 08:55 |
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I just watched all of it through season 3 on Netflix and was surprised to see a thread about this show. I completely forgot about them getting rid of Arturo. I think the original cast had great chemistry that was never reproduced in any of the seasons after 3 (from the little I have admittedly watched anyways).
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 09:15 |
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Goddamn. I remember this show when I was a kid. I was like 10 years old when I was watching this show, so it was really one of the first places I was exposed to Rhys-Davies. So while he may be Sallah to some, Gimli to others and Paladin to other still, I will always see him as Arturo. I loved this show so much as a kid too. But even when I was like 12 years old, I thought that the show was severely being hosed with and the episode order was making no goddamn sense. I wonder what this show could have been if it hadn't been supremely hosed with.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 11:19 |
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quote:
One of my favorite things about the show is they are never clear about whether it was the good or evil Arturo that joined them in that episode.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 11:26 |
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Mu Zeta posted:One of my favorite things about the show is they are never clear about whether it was the good or evil Arturo that joined them in that episode. Isn't that screenshot from the episode where Britain still rules America and that Arturo is the governor of California (and pretty much a limey Rush Limbaugh)?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 11:49 |
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Yeah I got it mixed up. The Evil Arturo episode still rules.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 12:06 |
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Used to love this show. When Arturo died I drifted away, (although in my head I tell myself it was really Evil Arturo) when I came back the cast changes and the Cromaggs didn't really grab me.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 12:20 |
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Sliders was exceptional for season one and parts of season two, then, well we know what happened. I rewatched this a couple years ago and during the Dragonslide episode Quinn has a line, "At last I have achieved that which so long eluded me!" My daughter, who was about four at the time thought he said, "At last I have the cheese which so long eluded me!" which I thought more appropriate.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 13:12 |
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muscles like this? posted:It was an interesting show but I never quite got the in universe explanation as to why they had to leave when the timer went off. Originally the device could open and close wormholes at will so why couldn't they just find an amenable world and fix it? I mean, later on they show that it can be copied since they switch devices. Even in Quinn's earliest test slides, he would set the timer - the first world he visits (red is go, green is stop) has a 15-minute window. The 'suave' Quinn who shows up in his basement tells him (as he's being sucked into his own wormhole) that opening the vortex early will scramble the timer - which means that initially, when they have to leave the frozen wasteland quickly in the pilot, their home coordinates are lost. In S3's "Slide Like an Egyptian," the crew deliberately misses the slide to save Quinn, rendering the original Timer useless. They find the Egyptian timer, but are forced to activate it early, corrupting the data, taking them back to random sliding. This timer is used until it is destroyed in the Season Five finale. Maggie and Rembrandt were still sliding randomly since they were using the Egyptian timer in Season Five, but Mallory and Diana, of course, were from the same Earth, and they had their own coordinates for them to return whenever they wanted. They even decided to go there after stopping Geiger in the next-to-last episode. Mu Zeta posted:Yeah I got it mixed up. The Evil Arturo episode still rules. Former executive producer Tracy Torme had dropped a hint or two on-screen about the Wrong Arturo; in "The Guardian," he mentions never seeing an American football game, but in an earlier episode (S1's "Summer of Love") Arturo is aware of football offense strategies (the 'Wishbone Offense'). Had Torme remained in control of the show (and had John Rhys-Davies not been fired), then there would have definitely been a follow-up.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 13:21 |
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I will defend a number of season three, four and five episodes as being pretty great. So - at least to me - it's not "all crap" after the first two seasons. Maggie actually becomes a decent character in Season Four and Five.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 13:24 |
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Oh man I just barely remember this show. I definitely never saw it in any sort of order. I just remember random bits and pieces. (the world that was like a lethal game show, one where every crime was judged by a game show audience, etc.) I should really check it out again. If you try to watch it now is it still out of order? How does it hold up?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 13:26 |
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 INTENDED EPISODE ORDER Season One 1-2. "Pilot, (Parts 1 and 2)" 6. "Summer of Love" 5. "The Prince of Wails" 3. "Fever" 4. "Last Days" 8. "The Weaker Sex" 7. "Eggheads" 9. "The King is Back" 10. "Luck of the Draw" Season Two 11. "Into the Mystic" 16. "Time Again and World" 15. "El Sid" 12. "Love Gods" 14. "The Good, the Bad and the Wealthy" 23. "As Time Goes By" 13. "Gillian of the Spirits" 19. "Obsession" 22. "Invasion" 18. "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome" 17. "In Dino Veritas" 20. "Greatfellas" 21. "The Young and the Relentless" Season Three 25. "Double Cross" 24. "Rules of the Game" 33. "Dead Man Sliding" 26. "Electric Twister Acid Test" 27. "The Guardian" 28. "The Dream Masters" 29. "Desert Storm" 30. "Dragonslide" 31. "The Fire Within" 32. "The Prince of Slides" 34. "State of the Art" 35. "Seasons Greedings" 36. "Murder Most Foul" 37. "Slide Like an Egyptian" 38. "Paradise Lost" 43. "The Last of Eden" 39. "The Exodus Part 1" 40. "The Exodus Part 2" 41. "Sole Survivors" 44. "The Other Slide of Darkness" 42. "The Breeder" 47. "Stoker" 45. "Slither" 46. "Dinoslide" 48. "This Slide of Paradise" Seasons Four and Five Aired in correct order. The SciFi Channel did something right. Aatrek fucked around with this message at Feb 25, 2012 around 13:34 |
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"The Last of Eden" actually aired like 3 episodes after they killed off Arturo in "The Exodus" and it didn't make sense that he was still in an episode and Maggie was nowhere, so they framed the episode about Wade having a nightmare and remembering it with Rembrandt. I wonder how much lead time they had to film that, not knowing which order Fox was going to air things.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 14:35 |
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I watched this show up until the last one with Quinn and Colin, although I started missing some episodes before then. Definitely a fun show playing with alternate universes, although it got very goofy sometimes. I think one episode had a spooky castle which literally had vampires in it. I still remember the first introduction of the Kromags - particularly when they're trying to escape from a Kromag prison and try to get another prisoner to come with them, but he has no eyes. The Kromag's consider them a delicacy. 
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 15:02 |
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The dude with no eyes? Another double of Conrad Bennish.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 15:13 |
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Sliders was the show that really got me into culty scifi. I was a kid and saw the Lipschitz Live episode and thought it was funny, and then kept watching. When it got canceled, I started watching Farscape. The last two seasons on Scifi really suffer for a few reasons, least of which the obvious massive cut in budget. When it was on Fox, it had some production value, it looked nice, but on Scifi they kept obviously using Universal backlots and boy did it look cheap. The last two seasons also were during a time when there was an order to be more "scifi" on the Scifi Network, so there's a lot more nonsense technobabble and pointless scifi-ey plotting, as opposed to "we're on an Earth where the Civil War was lost!" This sort of poo poo is why the eighth season of MST3K (the first on Scifi) had plot where the show had no business doing so.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 16:24 |
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I still remember the episode where they warp at the end and come out somewhere that looks like Quinn's house on their home planet, but they have to slide again in just a few minutes. Quinn uses a squeaky gate to check if they're home. It doesn't make the right squeak so a few seconds later they slide again. Then Quinn's Dad(?) comes out with his mom and says "Oh by the way, I finally took care of that squeaky gate" NOOOOOOOO This was like the sci-fi equivalent of a "buried alive" ending, and one of my first experiences with a really despairing ending , and I remember turning that ending over and over again in my head. Just a few seconds more on the timer! If they could just have......" Anyways, it's a pretty enjoyable show, one of the first I carried a torch for. Thanks for posting this thread!
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 16:55 |
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Aatrek posted:
Could this go into the OP? And a shame that the DVDs were released with the aired order rather than the intended order.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 17:56 |
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I was actually watching some episodes of Sliders a few months back, but when I was younger watching this show was the highlight of the evening in my house. Until they got rid of Arturo. At that point I just couldn't bring myself to keep watching the show religiously. I saw an episode here and there of the later seasons with the cro-mags or whatever, and it was like an entirely different show, the introduction of a big bad villain felt to me like a stupid idea. The show had a fun "what if" exploration vibe in the early seasons that no amount of laser guns or CG space ships could ever replace. The gate got oiled!? NOOOOOOOooo! Why did he have to pick TODAY to fix the squeak!?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 18:08 |
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Enderzero posted:I still remember the episode where they warp at the end and come out somewhere that looks like Quinn's house on their home planet, but they have to slide again in just a few minutes. Quinn uses a squeaky gate to check if they're home. It doesn't make the right squeak so a few seconds later they slide again. That whole scene is etched into my memory. Also rattling around in there is that one planet where men are slaves or something and Wade is all  for the whole thing.I really loved the first 2 seasons of Sliders. The third I think I watched some of since I remember the replacement chick being pretty terrible and how dumb it was that the professor was gone. I didn't find out until much later that it had moved to Siffy, and whatever episodes I caught in reruns made no sense and it was basically a different show. I wouldn't mind running through the early seasons again.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 18:23 |
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"I shall put his brain next to that of our beloved President, Ed Wood Jr." This was a fun show while it lasted. A lot of credit is due showrunner Tracy Torme (related to Mel, hence his appearance as a secret agent in the "Vegas in San Francisco" ep), who found a nice bouncy tone for the whole thing- his departure was around when things started to go downhill at Fox.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 19:28 |
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Thank you for making this thread, Aatrek! I loved Sliders growing up...through all of season 5 I kept hoping that at some point, Real Quinn would come back...but nope...the even had Mallory say something to the effect of, "Your Quinn is gone now...I can't feel his memories inside me anymore..." Way to slap me in the face, Sliders...  But season 5 wasn't all bad...after all, we got Londo Mollari! Defiance Industries posted:Holy poo poo. That reminded me of the guy who Arturo invented the bomb with. Conrad Bennish, Jr. Can't believe I forgot a name that awesome. Apparently he was going to become a series regular at one point? IIRC, wasn't Conrad a friend/classmate of Q-Ball in their timeline? It was a recurring theme that his double always ended up in some weird place where they'd meet up in the parallel worlds. Enderzero posted:Then Quinn's Dad(?) comes out with his mom and says "Oh by the way, I finally took care of that squeaky gate" NOOOOOOOO It wasn't his dad, it was just his mom's handyman, or something. His dad (well, I guess his adoptive dad) was dead...that was another good episode, too. They get back to what they think is their world, and at the very end, Quinn's dad comes out, and his expression is all "poo poo..."
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 20:20 |
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Yeah, Bennish and Quinn were in Arturo's class together IIRC.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 20:27 |
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Yes - thanks to someone in this very thread, I was forced by myself to watch episode one because it's an awesome show. Bennish is in the same class as Quinn; he sat upper row left in this episode. quote:They get back to what they think is their world, and at the very end, Quinn's dad comes out, and his expression is all "poo poo..." Yes - end of the pilot is this. Speaking of which, I think an awesome gif would start with him dropping the wine then it just rotates forever.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2012 21:16 |
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| # ? May 20, 2013 01:27 |
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I just ordered seasons 4 & 5 to complete my collection. Did they ever repackage seasons 1 & 2? That's some of the worst packaging I've ever seen - the discs are just jammed into a piece of foam.
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