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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Just killed a bomber of Exponential Hoppiness... IN Los Angeles.

Take that, Alpine 30 minutes East of S.D. backwoods locals!

Seriously though, it's a good beer.

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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Perfectly Cromulent posted:

Drinking a New Belgium Cocoa Mole right now and I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying it. They did a really nice job achieving some sort of balance with these flavors. The cinnamon does start to get a little overpowering the more you drink and I don't think I could drink much more than a 10oz or 12oz glass of it. Still, quite good.


That was the big surprise for me as well. I need to go out and find a few more bottles. It has to be one of my favorite art on the bottle for NB also. Anyone have any experience making glass cups out of old beer bottles? This one was the first one that made me want to do it.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Munkaboo posted:

Thanks for the tips! We'll be starting and ending in the Gaslamp quarter and our first visit will be Stone most likely, it's a brewery tour so we're not quite flexible on the day of, but it's a private tour so it will be just me my wife and the driver/guide.



This won't help you since you're doing a private tour and don't have to wait, but for those who just walk into stone for the tour, you're best bet is to get there two hours before the tour time you want as that's when they give out that time's tickets.

I always just go get my tickets for the tour and once I have them I jump back in the car and head over to Lost Abbey. At only a mile or two away, it's really close to kill the two hours and their samplers are only a buck.

Head on back to stone, do the tour - which they give you a lot of samples as well. If you're not maintaining a good buzz with all that then hit up the bistro/garden bar and there's no way not to have a good time.

Pizza Port Carlsbad is a must stop place for me whenever I'm down there. The food is great, the beer selection is amazing and the bottle shop next door is perfect for taking home bottles.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


bananasinpajamas posted:

Brewers have to be the worst people in any industry at naming their products.

I think the wort just goes straight to their brain and makes every pun a work of art. I think it's required by brewer's law to make a pun out of hoppy beer.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Docjowles posted:

Deviant Dale's should be available any day now, if it's not already

Edit: can looks hard core, too




Got a can of that earlier today. Cost around $4, which seemed like much for a beer, but then again I spend more than that on a pint at a bar, so why the gently caress now.

The verdict. It's a nice IPA. Really nice. Man, I love me Oscar Blues for camping and I got a trip coming up. I may have to pick up a couple more of these cans for that.




Bruery talk - Holy gently caress, their latest allocation is really killing my wallet.

quote:

Otiose
5 Bottle Limit - $20/bottle ($17 after RS discount)

Defined as "serving no practical purpose", the recipe for Otiose was developed during a rare break in the brewing schedule; a recipe we came up with to satisfy our own desires and nothing more. The result is a sour brown ale aged in oak barrels to which we added guava. Riddled with tropical notes which are balanced by it's malty backbone, Otiose is a rich and decadent sour ale.

8.2% ABV, Cellerable for up to 3 years

Sans Pagaie
5 Bottle Limit - $20/bottle ($17 after RS discount)

French for "without a paddle", Sans Pagaie is our take on a Belgian Kriek. We added an incredible amount of cherries to this sour blonde ale and then we decided to add more. The result is a well balanced fruited sour ale, perfect on it's own, even better with a slice of chocolate cake.

5.8% ABV, Cellerable for up to 3 years



Bourbon Barrel Aged Smoking Wood
3 Bottle Limit - $20/bottle ($17 after RS discount)
RS EXCLUSIVE

Brewed with beachwood and cherrywood smoked malt, and aged in bourbon barrels, Smoking Wood is a delicious demonstration of what wood has to offer when it comes to beer. This imperial smoked porter is brewed with a hefty amount of rye malt, contributing to a full body and light spiciness. Toasty oak, caramel and vanilla flavors balance the smokiness, contributing to an intense yet refined flavor profile.

The previous release of Smoking Wood was aged in rye whiskey barrels while this more limited version was aged in bourbon barrels, contributing a different nuance to the already complex ale.

13% ABV, Cellerable for up to 3 years

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


cyberpunksurvivor posted:

I had a Hangar 18 Orange Wheat beer yesterday at the cafe. I don't know if it was the orange wedge I squeezed into it, but it went flat real quick. Tasted as bad as Blue Moon and Shock Top.

I had a bomber of their Columbus IPA yesterday and I have to say, it wasn't that great. I enjoy their barrel roll beers and the Double IPA was good. But man was I let down by the Columbus IPA. Also felt it got flat real fast.

Then again, I feel the same way towards Arrogant Bastard. I love the double bastard but the regular version is one I don't even touch.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


bartolimu posted:

I'll be in Anaheim this weekend for the Bruery Reserve Club event. Are there any bottle shops in the Anaheim/Orange/Tustin area that could supplement the selection at Bruery Provisions?

The provisions store is also great if you never been. But that's more of the same bruery stuff you'll be drinking. Take the few mile drive to go over to Bootleggers Brewery.

The Tustin Total Wines and Whole Foods also have a great selection of bottles.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


I typically don't go in for the whole St. Paddy's day bullshit since it's generally overcrowded bars with frat douchebags who can't handle their green budlight. But the Bruery's tasting room is having a hop oil green coloring they can add to your drink, so I may be actually excited for once to turn my beer green...

That and the rain in L.A. typically means lovely drivers on top of more police presence on the road and drunk drivers means I'd rather stay in with some beer from the local shop than go out.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Some Moylan's kilt lifter for me tonight. I love that beer.

And hey, it fits a theme.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Wait, so this year's red poppy is out. Hmm. I went down there last year for it, but I ended up finding it everywhere in Los Angeles weeks after.

So hey, gotta start looking. Bought a variety six pack of Great Divide stuff tonight. Looking forward to tasting HOSS and NOMAD.


I'm not sure I like the way the provisions store is after they are now allowed to serve full pints. It used to be that they couldn't serve more than 2oz pours on non-bruery stuff, so they would make a lot of theme flights of other breweries beers.

So you can walk out of there trying 5-10 beers without the feeling like you shouldn't be driving. The new patio area is cool though. I can't wait till that is open.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


bartolimu posted:

Give it a little time, it released on Saturday and I'm pretty sure they kept it all to the brewery for that. They'll probably start shipping bottles soon if you're lucky enough to live somewhere they sell it. You don't want to drink it yet anyhow; it needs at least a few months in bottle to sour up and gain complexity.

Pretty much my stance. I have last years bottle still sitting there. I don't feel the need to do a North S.D. beer run just yet, so no excuse to go down to Lost Abbey and I know it'll show up in L.A. in massive amounts come two weeks or so.

Kern River Brewing is releasing another batch of Citra. 140 cases to be sold at the brewery only. drat I'm tempted to make the 3 hour drive up there. It's drat well good enough to warrant its GABF medal and it's a nice drive once you get past Bakersfield.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


April is indeed the release. I love IRS and it's always nice to have it come out around my birthday.

As for the odd years program. They still offer the regular recipe, but they also bottle the Anise. I know there's places that still have the Anise IRS on the shelves from last year while the regular version flew off rather quickly.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Paul Proteus posted:

It will probably not be released again as it was a collaboration.

Cocoa Mole is still rocking the shelves here in Chicago; it's really delicious (I had it on tap) but they want $15.00 a bottle for it.

That's the highest I heard it go, but considering I've seen it on the shelf at different stores in the price points from $6.50 to $9 a bomber, I really am not surprised that it would go up to $15.

Maybe they mixed it up with the other lips of faith series that actually do cost into the $15 range.

Either way, it's good and I ended up getting a few more bottles at $6.50 at whole foods even though I was sitting on 3 bombers I picked up for $8.95 at Bruery Provisions.

The bottle art alone is awesome. Anyone have advice in turning old beer bottles into glassware?

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


I'm surprised there's not more April fool's beer jokes.

This Bruery canning mass release got a small chuckle out of me.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Not for any reason other than it's a pet peeve of mine, but it's Stone IRS.

But yes, it's delicious and one of my favorite beers. Still sitting on some 05 bottles.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Firestone XV is good, but yeah, it needs to be sat on for a while to let it mellow out as it is a booze heavy beer.

My favorite of the Firestone special releases is the Parabola. My god, that sucker is perfect. Even at 13%, that sucker is really intense with the Bourbon flavor in an imperial stout.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


crazyfish posted:

So a local store got in some bottles of Lost Abbey Red Poppy. This would be a big deal as it's one of the few beers my wife will drink, but it's seventeen dollars for a 12 ounce bottle. I had it on tap early last year, and it was good, but not $17/12oz good. Are they gouging or is that what the drat thing actually costs?

Sadly that's around the price you're going to end up paying for it. I recall I paid $15 for the bottle at the brewery during the release. It's Lost Abbey, they sure as hell like 12oz bottles to range at that price point.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


FreelanceSocialist posted:

I was thinking about that last night while watching the episode of Brew Masters where they dump $500k worth of ruined 120 minute IPA. I think that they should have a rotating host, though. Have Sam do an episode where he visits Southern Tier or something. Then have Steve and Greg at Stone go do a thing at some place like The Alchemist. And have Chris Lively from Ebenezer's Pub do one at some point - that guy is absolutely hilarious and a blast when hosting a tasting. Basically, pull the guys off their home turf and just let the episodes develop organically.




Drinking Made Easy was a good show and Zane Lamprey did a fair enough job going from place to place. Oh how I miss that show.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Yeah, last night I had a first drain pour in as far as I can remember and it was a 2011 Stone Old Guardian.

Not that it was bad or anything, but I had a good half of the bomber over the course of an hour or two and I literally could not drink anymore of it and it was already pretty late. I should have invested in some wine stoppers or something cause I felt really bad just letting half a bomber go to waste like that.

I don't get how it's easy for folks to drain pour stuff.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


I think it was just a matter of too much drinking over the last few days that I couldn't see myself touching it, let alone finishing it within the next few days.

Believe me, it was not an easy choice. Really made me look into investing for the situation where I can't finish a bomber/750ml bottle. Anyone ever use any sort of wine vacuum stopper like this to save a bottle for later?
http://www.amazon.com/Metrokane-Vac...t/dp/B0000D91VY

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


That's good to hear about the Red Poppy. Much like last year, it's popping up in L.A. all over the place. At around $16 a bottle, I'm probably only going to end up with 2 or so bottles. I still have one from last year sitting around getting some age on it.

Thinking of doing a birthday trip down to S.D. this weekend and hitting up Stone, Lost Abbey, Ballast Point and Pizza Port. So I guess I can try it on tap to also compare it.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Welp, it's going to be a good birthday weekend.



Bottled on 4/3

on a side note, yeah there's shops that really don't give a poo poo about bottle limits.

Jack Skeleton fucked around with this message at Apr 6, 2012 around 23:52

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Podima posted:


Another question - how do you all mark your cellared beers with years and stuff of when you got them? I know some beers have dates printed on them, but not every brewery does that.

I usually just write the date on it with a silver marker. Works great to keeping it organized when it doesn't have a date on it, or when I want to know what day I bought it.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


internet celebrity posted:

I found some Stone IRS for 6.50/bomber at World Market and I grabbed 4 because that price is insane. Was it marked wrong or is this just a gem of a cheap beer?

Yeah, between $6-7 is what I typically see it for in L.A. Which is why I always end up buying a poo poo ton of it and sitting on it. Still got half a case of IRS from 08. After a couple of weeks they become scarcer - well, at least that was the case last year with the odd year Anise version staying on the shelf far longer. But it's worth picking up a couple because it ages very well.


Found and loving consumed the ever living hell out of Firestone Walker Wookey Jack. A Unfiltered Black Rye IPA -

Trip report: Delicious. Firestone seriously has not let me down in a single beer they have made and I need to make the drive up to their brewery. There's also a bottle date on it.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Arnold of Soissons posted:

I'm a pretentious beer geek, I hate the label and am not a fan of the name, but Arrogant Bastard is a well made, tasty beer that I would put among, if not at the top of Stone's offerings, personally. It's not necessarily a beer that lifts up your eyebrows and makes you say wow, but it is a tasty beer for any occasion.

While I love Double Bastard, I just don't care much of anything about Arrogant Bastard. Ruination on the other hand.. that beer is awesome all the time. And I go crazy for their IRS. That sucker I can drink day and night.


They also have one of the better brewery tour/dining settings you can come across and I can't wait till they get that hotel built.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Munkaboo posted:

mmm, got it for 16 at a whole foods in Laguna beach. Is it really that good? Should I sit on it?


Also, CBS was really drat good. Much more deserving of the hype than most hyped beers (looking at you Hopslam).

To be honest, if you sit on it, it gets a lot better.



I scored at a Whole Foods today across from The Grove in Hollywood. I asked the worker if they had Firestone Walker Parabola - cause I figured with it being released at the brewery this weekend it couldn't hurt. They go in the back and come out with 2011's Parabola.

$16 bucks later and I'm happy as gently caress. I love Parabola. Thinking of making the drive up to Paso Robles this weekend to pick up some bottles from the source.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


CalvinDooglas posted:

I know this is the beer thread and all, but if you're going out to Paso Robles make time for the wine. It's seriously a poor man's Sonoma Valley out there: free tasting, unpretentious wineries, cheap bottles, no appointments, no expectation of purchase.

I went several years ago and had a blast, but that was before I knew about Firestone Walker.

After the lovely month I've been having - I fully plan to take advantage of it. I agree that it's great for all things alcohol. Though there is a Solvang brewing company that I tried once and want to give them another chance as the first time I had them, nothing they cranked out was worth a drat.

Seems like central California isn't all that beer heavy. Anyone have any suggestions?

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


feld posted:

Not quite beer, but last night I got to experience a one-of-a-kind --

Goose Island sent a bunch of Sophie up to a local distillery and had them distill it into a vodka-like-substance. Smelled and tasted identical to Sophie. Goose Island like it so much they bought all the barrels of it back and nobody knows what they're going to do with it, but the distillery kept a few bottles for personal use.

There's a few drips left in my sample glass:



and this badass fountain of Gin "190 proof, go ahead and stick your hand in it and try"



The barrel holds around 500 gallons, so that's a big batch of Gin...



Well, I'm jelly. I love the whole push now by breweries to distill their beer. Rogue may not be my favorite brewery, but their Dead Guy ale gin is really something else.

Ballast point has a couple of rums and gins as well. Really makes me want to become a moonshiner and make some interesting stuff with random beers and a still.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Indeed, Stone IRS is probably the best bang for your buck IRS. So cheap and so easy to age. I typically end up with a case or two of each year. Cracked open a 07 and 08 the other night and was in pure heaven.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


I came across Firestone Walker Parabola today at about $22.99 a bottle and I decided to pass on it cause I felt that was a bit more pricey than I was used to.

About an hour later I go into a Whole Foods and at only $14.99

Yeah, in retrospect it wasn't much of a difference. But hey, I get another Bomber out of that price difference.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


danbanana posted:

Good score. Out of curiosity, where are you at? Trying to figure out how far east it's gotten thus far...

In Los Angeles (Redondo Beach) Yeah, this years. Oddly enough a week or two ago I went into a Whole Foods asking if they got it in and they pulled a 2011 from the back. So yeah, I'm liking Whole Foods for their secret beer finds.

I don't get why anyone can mark it up to the $23 range, you're walking out of there paying almost $10 more per bottle. Yeah, they had about 5 cases of it, but still. Not worth the convenience when it hasn't really hit most places yet.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Turtlepants posted:

Here's Crafty Episode 3 - Ladyface Alehouse & Brasserie in Agoura Hills, CA.

http://youtu.be/AwLwk4fwTIQ

This is one of my favorite ones we've done so far - I'm pretty fond of the female cohost, and it was a really great venue. If you ever make it out to Agoura Hills, I seriously recommend their Cheseboro IPA. It's seriously the best IPA I've ever had. Now it's not the crazy high 9.7 ABV I think it was for the 200th batch they refer to in the episode, I think it's down in the neighborhood of 8.

Enjoy!

I just want to quote this because LadyFace is one of the places I constantly take my growler to get refilled.

Not a beer on their board that hasn't impressed me. Their Workers Co-HOP-eration is really good and I love their Russian Lullaby

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


CalvinDooglas posted:

Dale's is really resiny, but I think it lacks the malt content and body of an IPA.

malts? Wait, IPA's aren't hops after hops after hops with some hops added

*speaks as a West Coaster*

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Drinking a Stone IRS from this year -- god drat, it's the best bang for your buck in terms of RIS that are amazing to be aged.

Since May is the Anniversary month for the Bruery, they've been releasing stuff from their back stock all month long. Today I picked up a 2010 black tuesday. The nice cherry on top was that the Provision store had Firestone Walker's Parabola on the shelf.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Well poo poo, my commute to Stone will become 10 minutes instead of 2 hours..

Stone Brewery is going to open up a spot in Pasadena, Ca.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...0,6895196.story


quote:

At 16 years old, San Diego County's Stone Brewing Co. is ancient compared to the still-fledging L.A. craft beer scene. Along with Sierra Nevada Brewing and Lagunitas Brewing, Stone Brewing has become a nationally known California brand and is now the 11th largest craft brewery in America, according to 2011 year-end statistics from the Brewers Assn.

Yet Stone Brewing's next target for expansion isn't some far-flung locale. It's cozy Pasadena.

Perhaps as early as August, Pasadena will have its very own Stone Company Store on South Raymond Avenue, where, in addition to buying all things Stone, drinking-age patrons can sample beers and get glass jugs called growlers to go. But don't confuse it with a bar.

"It won't feel like a bar. It will feel like a store," said chief executive and co-founder Greg Koch. "While someone may just drop by for a pint and that's entirely possible you won't find groups of people hanging out like you would at a bar. The best analogy is just to think of this as a winery's tasting room."

Although Stone operates out of Escondido, Koch is familiar with the Pasadena area, as he lived in Los Angeles from 1984 to 1995. Acknowledging L.A.'s beer scene is younger than San Diego's, he said this city is quickly catching up. He points to the 2-year-old Eagle Rock Brewing, which Stone distributes, as an example.

"Eagle Rock is larger than we were at year two," Koch said. "It's a very different time. Today a small brewery opens with nothing more than a Facebook page and they will have a line of people out the door on opening day. I couldn't have dreamed of such an occurrence."


I'm seriously going to be using my Growler a lot more now.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Captain Shortbus posted:

Today's menu: 2 bombers of Chocolate Oak aged Yeti, a smokestack of Long Strange Tripel, a Southern Tier Creme' Brulee' Imperial Stout, and a 6 pack of SA Cream Stout. I guess I'll stay inside today.

Ah, Creme Brulee.. Hope you have friends to share that one with.. Either that or good health insurance to cover your future diabetes.

God drat, Chocolate Yeti is so good.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


escape artist posted:

I used to see Biere de Mars in my store (in FL) all the time! Like, it never sold because it was so expensive, so you'd see bottles of it (and a lot of their beers) just sitting around collecting dust forever.


I find this happens with a lot of the Lips of Faith series. I constantly find older bottles of beer on the shelf because the price point is high for what even craft beer drinkers are used to.

Not that it's a bad thing that I can find two year old La Folie on the shelf. I'm still finding Cocoa Mole on the shelf and I'm loving it.

Went and found this sucker today




Was pretty drat good at first, but I'm having trouble finishing the last 3/4ths of this 10.8% hoppy bastard bomber.

Recommend it, but have a buddy there to share it with. It'll ruin palates, alright.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Angry Grimace posted:

Pliny the Younger? Exponential Hoppiness? Dark Lord? There's a ton of them that are super crazy and come out every year.

Isn't Exponential Hoppiness never going into growlers anymore because they saw a few of them go up on ebay. HA!

Like, seriously. If you want to stop people from reselling your product, you're going to have to up the production of it. Simple as that. Get it to their hands by YOUR means and you cut out the ability of others to do it for you.

You don't see Stone facing this problem all that much for anything other than those Millennium barrel aged bottles, and even then, they have a system in place where you're not going to bother doing so. But for their other beers, say IRS, you don't see it go on ebay because it's so easily available.

While most breweries don't have the luxury of Stone's distribution and vast production means, it's a good loving sign that you're doing something right in how you make your beer if someone from across the country is willing to pay a kings ransom to try it.

Spend less time focused on getting those kids from distributing your beer and more time brewing or working on making building up your brewery.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Even though I've had the chance to try some rare Lost Abbey beers, I've passed all them up because I had to drink/open the bottle and drink it on-site.

Whenever I go to Lost Abbey I generally got to Stone or at least have a few taster sizes of the many other beers they have on tap. No way am I finishing a bottle by myself simply because they don't trust me after I paid for the god drat bottle.

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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


I haven't checked that e-mail addy in a hot minute (no idea where that phrase was coined nor why I'm using it, but here we are) So I'll get back to you asap on that.

On the way back up from San Diego I went to Pizza Port for some Poorman's IPA and got the end of the keg. Yeastie as gently caress, but still delicious Poorman's IPA.

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