Donny posted:

Hey guys, so this is the TVTropes thread? Have you seen the page on Game of Thrones yet? The tropes they come up with can be so obscure, yet hilarious and punny!

Volume posted:

I think you need to step away from the computer, man.

Gamma Nerd posted:

It's been a while since people were posting stuff from the Ghost in the Shell article, but just a little note to Benny The Snake or whoever it was because I honestly forgot.

At risk of disturbing the cuddlepile that is the TVTropes thread, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that all of your posts are terrible. You're like one of those guys who really liked Dragonforce of something when he was 15, and now you're hanging out with a bunch of black metal fans and because you so desperately seek validation you feel the need to insert references to how much Dragonforce suck at every possible opportunity.

Actually that goes for this entire thread. We've got 30 or so former tropers having a huge about how terrible TVTropes is and how all of the users are pedophiles, trying desperately to run away from the fact that not too long ago they themselves were part of a group that hey now claim to hate with every fiber of their being. But how do they appeal to the discriminating elitists on big, scary Something Awful who are watching their every move, scrutinizing them for hints of pedophilia and anime fandom?

In most cases they go the route of taking perfectly innocuous excerpts from TVTropes (yeah, they do mention that some people in Ghost in the Shell have sexbots, that's because it happens in the first loving episode), adding the emoticon, and making a comment about how this innocuous bit of text is obviously a cryptic allusion to the well-known truth that all tropers are raping a baby right this moment.

This is a very efficient way of communicating your dislike for tropers, but in terms of mockery it is roughly on the level of the Fark Politics tab.

We can do better.

Gamma Nerd posted:

(yeah, they do mention that some people in Ghost in the Shell have sexbots, that's because it happens in the first loving episode)

DoctorWhat posted:

Dude chill, we're making fun of internet losers.

Benny the Snake posted:

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Just Partners: Batou and Kusanagi, although Everyone Can See It. The other members of Section 9 rib him for it in STAND ALONE COMPLEX (specifically, his overreaction to her apparently dying in the previous episode.

Damnit Bataou why don't you surprise sex her already?

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No Transhumanism Allowed: The Human Liberation Front is one of several groups opposed to cyberization.

Yeah, gently caress the trannies!

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Obfuscating Disability: the Laughing Man went into hiding by hacking the computers of a mental hospital for children and youths and creating a fake identity of being a patient suffering from severe mental disabilities and being almost unresponsive to other people. Which is particularly ironic as his Calling Card was an image that included the quote from The Catcher In The Rye: "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes." The context of the quote is more telling still; it's taken from a passage where the narrator decides in a flight of fancy that he'd run away and live a life of seclusion, far from the falseness and ugliness of society.

All hail the Laughing Man: king of the Aspies:!

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Remote Body: Major Kusanagi (and presumably other characters) can remotely control robot bodies. At the end of the first season she uses this ability to avoid being killed.

Sounds like someone's disapointed that they didn't make out with eachother

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Lottery of Babylon posted:

And some of us are doing a really terrible job at it, and it's becoming more and more obvious that the call is coming from inside the house.

Please, explain to me why any of this nonsense needed to be posted:


Sounds like someone's disapointed that they didn't make out with eachother

Listing every thing that happened in a show may be an inane waste of time, but even worse is looking at a list of every thing that happened in a show and playing six degrees of overused emoticons to "prove" that they're all secretly about surprise sex despite having nothing to do with surprise sex. We're making fun of tropers for the horrible, horrible things they do; acting like the ordinary things they do are just as bad because "hey I can use emoticons am I witty now?" undermines the entire point of these threads.

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Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, and Venusaur (Fushigidane, Fushigisou, and Fushigibana)

A green-blue, toad-like creature which has a bulb planted on its back, its evolution pretty much consists of bodily growth and the bulb flowering and eventually turning into a large plant. This family is the first in many aspects: The first Pokémon in National Dex order, the first Grass-type, Poison-type and Dual-typed ones too, and, as a starter in the Kanto-based games, the first Pokémon of roughly one third of the first Pokémon players. In battle, it is more of an utility Pokémon, as its offensive options are somewhat limited. Still, as a Starter Pokémon, it is quite well-rounded and can be used offensively without much problem.

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Poisonous Pokémon: It has never had a large number of Poison moves to choose from though.

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Charizard

Extra Ore Dinary: Despite not being part-Steel, this line learns Metal Claw naturally to help in dealing with Rock-types (an addition to the remakes made to help against the first gym leader, whose Rock Pokémon resisted Fire). Charizard, on top of that, is the only Pokémon that can learn Metal Claw, Iron Tail, and Steel Wing, all attacks involving an impact with a metallified body part.

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Your Size May Vary: Officially, a Charizard is about as tall as an average adult human, standing at around 5'07" (1.7m) in height - but aside from the main games, you'd be hard-pressed to find a human-sized Charizard in any other form of Pokémon media, be it the anime, various manga, or fanart. Charizard are more usually shown to be around 8 to 25 feet tall, depending mostly on how awesome/badass the writer or artist feels like portraying it. Keep in mind that Venusaur is actually supposed to be the largest out of the Kanto starter trio.

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Blastoise

Boring, but Practical : A given considering that this is the role of pretty much most water pokemon, and amongst the three starters. Venusaur is The Mario with multitudes of useful moves that can be a sweeper(especialy with its Dream World ability), and a Supporter. Charizard is an offensive beast in terms of both physical and special attack, and has a good offensive movepool (Not to mention an ability that INCREASES its offensive power when its HP is low, and a dream world ability that makes it even MORE so.). Blastoise, on the other hand, is a Stone Wall, and its stats, combined with its limited movepool, make it hard to sweep. On the other hand, Blastoise has several support moves, notably Rapid Spin, and a priority move. This turns Blastoise into a capable Anti Lead and an all around useful teammate.

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Butterfree

Flight: Butterfree.

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Pikachu

Badass Adorable: And it's so cuuuute! Raichu is also this trope, but with more emphasis on the "badass" aspect.

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The Everyman: Pikachu, to a certain extent.

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Tsundere: Pikachu as a whole seem to have a knack for being Type 2 in various different continuities.

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What Happened to the Mouse?: Aside from being a literal mouse, it's oddly unobtainable in Pokémon Black and White via normal gameplay despite its status as the series mascot and a relatively common Pokémon in all prior games (even making a few cameos in the game and being heavily promoted in related material).

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Nidoran

Bizarre Sexual Dimorphism: So much that they count as separate species.
Bizarrely, it is also averted, as the differences account pretty much to coloration and horn size. The different species is justified, as they predate gender differences, and even gender.

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Cartoon Creature: Bulbapedia describes Nidoking and Nidoqueen as "sharing traits of rhinoceroses, gorillas, rabbits and porcupines." Lord knows what species Game Freak was really thinking of when they made these things, if any.
Considering Nidoking and Nidoqueen also strongly resemble Baragon, it's likely a Shout Out of sorts.

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Clefairy

No Sell: Magic Guard works as this for indirect damage: It just doesn't work. Life Orb? The only penalty is not using Leftovers. Sandstorm? Not a problem (for them, anyways.) Stealth Rock? Nope. Toxic? Great, now they don't even have to worry about Paralysis or Sleep. Leech Seed? Enjoy your fat load of nothing.

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Vulpix

A Worldwide Punomenon: Ninetales looks like a case of Rouge Angles of Satin until you realize it's supposedly 9 people fused. one could suppose that if they were separated, they would have quite the stories to tale about being being transformed into nine tails.

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Disproportionate Retribution: Touch one of Ninetales', well, tails, and prepare to be cursed for life. (Specifically 1,000 years - if you're not immortal, there's no way you're living that long.)
Knowing them, they probably know that you're not going to live that long, so maybe it hits your descendants, too...
Or you're still cursed in the afterlife.

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Vileplume

Meaningful Name: A Rafflesia (Vileplume's name in the Japanese version) is the largest flower in the world and produces a highly foul odor, and the flower on its head highly resembles one.
This may also go to explain why Gloom smells so bad.

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Golem

Golem: Averted; see below.
In Name Only: Golem is not related to the Golems of Hebrew legend.

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Mighty Glacier: Slow, but can easily take a punch. If the punch is not watery or covered with leaves, that is.
Or if that punch just happens to be a Fighting type move. Which, disregarding special punches, they all should be.

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Slowpoke

Urban Legend of Zelda: According to the Pokédex, Slowbro and Slowking will revert back to an ordinary Slowpoke if they lose their attached Shellder. There is no way for this to happen in the games, though that hasn't stopped the usual band of nitwits from trying.

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Magnemite

Gameplay and Story Segregation: You wouldn't expect a Pokémon that can naturally float to not have Levitate.
They use Magnetism. Shaking earth may disrupt magnetism. Though, they can use Magnet Rise to make themselves immune to Ground-type moves for five turns, so... yeah.
Maybe the move just makes them exert the force even harder.

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Magnet Hands: Literally, with the trope taking effect as the Magnet Pull ability, which attracts fellow Steel-types...

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Tyrogue

Kick Chick: Gender Inverted.

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Magikarp

Legendary Carp: Double Subverted, Magikarp is by no means legendary, but when it evolves into Gyarados...

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Shout Out: Magikarp and Gyarados are a reference to a Chinese legend of a carp that leapt over "The Dragon's Gate" and became a dragon. The legend is an allegory of the hard work needed to overcome a difficult task (such as getting a Magikarp up to level 20 when it doesn't learn an actual attack until level 15).

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Ditto

Anything That Moves: It breeds with male, female, and even genderless Pokémon to make eggs.
Screw Yourself: Likely invokes this during breeding.
Team Mom and/or Team Dad: Is quite likely to be one or even both of these literally.

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Porygon

Copy Protection: In-universe example, it is stated in the Emerald Dex to be why it can't be duplicated. Not that it manages to stop anything using Transform from copying it, Not to mention that the only way to breed one is with a Ditto and not with its own species.
Ironic, in that Emerald is the game where Pokémon Cloning is more easily done. That includes the Porygons.

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Mewtwo

Cats Are Mean: It is stated to be the most savage and evil pokemon, though no explicit mention is made of its cat-like appearance
Subverted in the anime. Mewtwo is highly aggressive and is absolutely ruthless in battle to the point where it utterly lacks compassion while fighting. However, it simply wishes to be left in peace and protects its fellow clone Pokemon from harm.

Real Genderless Yet Masculine Legendaries Are Pale Lavender

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Missingno.

Eldritch Abomination: They'd definitely be this to the character, and are described as much in many fan-work. Even in non-Pokemon work.

Gamma Nerd posted:

This is a very efficient way of communicating your dislike for tropers, but in terms of mockery it is roughly on the level of the Fark Politics tab.

We can do better.

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Cloudcuckoolander: Willy! So adorable, yet, so dumb.
The Cutie: Willy. With that cute little tooth and clueless personality, how could you NOT want to hug him?
Missing Mom: Literally MISSING mom! Willy's mom has never made an on-screen appearance.
Sarcasm-Blind: WILLY! On several occasions.

Commissar posted:

If you're going to go to the trouble of calling out an entire thread and a specific user in it, and then say "We can do better", maybe give examples of things you think would be a better way to do things? Otherwise it's just rolling in, saying "You guys are poo poo at this " and then leaving. The post was pretty bad, sure, but useless criticism is just as bad.

Install Gentoo posted:

Some people just need to remember that brevity is the soul of wit. Also that you don't need to use emoticons every other line.

'Least that's what I'd say is the problem with those posts, dunno what that guy thinks.

Martello posted:

It's the 3rd episode.

Young Freud posted:

However, robot geishas appear in the first episode. Don't you know, geishas are concubines, a fancy word for prostitute.

(although, mostly geishas were just entertainers and not full-on harem girls)

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Let's begin every book by forcing readers to read a dictionary because that's clearly an engaging way of writing. But more importantly, gently caress those pretentious assholes who talk about "literary fiction" as if that means anything, how can you objectively say Heart of Darkness is better than Animorphs?

KingJackalope posted:

I can think of at least two works where in-universe slang was so heavy that a glossary would be needed. Both times were pretty good at producing an alienating, othering sort of feeling: Watership Down (rabbits do not think like us, they are not just people with fur) and A Clockwork Orange.

Then The Handle drives that bus straight into stupid town by making one of his examples "Literary fiction".

KingJackalope posted:

I can think of at least two works where in-universe slang was so heavy that a glossary would be needed. Both times were pretty good at producing an alienating, othering sort of feeling: Watership Down (rabbits do not think like us, they are not just people with fur) and A Clockwork Orange.

Then The Handle drives that bus straight into stupid town by making one of his examples "Literary fiction".

General Panic posted:

To be honest, my recollection of Watership Down (which I really loved as a kid) is that there weren't really enough "rabbit words" to justify a glossary and they all got explained in footnotes or the text anyway.

A Clockwork Orange sounds more like it, as the main protagonists speak a made-up language, but I can't be sure as I've never actually read the book.

There are actually older books written totally or partly in Scottish that require that kind of glossary. James Hogg's Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner is one of them.

Madrugada posted:

You have two choices in that sort of case: You can run the artwork through a vectoring program (like Inkscape) and color it in with the vector program, or, you can zoom way in on it (I usually zoom to about 800% magnification) and color each uncolored pixel individually in your raster program.
The problem with the second choice is that it's incredibly time-consuming and tedious work, and the program will dither it again when you save...

A Voice of Reason posted:

An easier way to do it is to get your lines on one layer (set on normal or multiply mode) and put all the colors on a layer beneath the lines. You can color right up to the lines and the rough edges won't be visible, provided you don't go outside of the lines. This is usually how I see it done with people who use lined artwork.

Madrugada posted:

Layers are a whole other tangle. I hate doing layers.

rumetzen posted:

Oh how awful. Who could take that unbearable, unbearable heat?

Civilian Tom posted:

^^ Your location makes me think sarcasm but I'm not sure.

rumetzen posted:

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. It's just a big pet peeve of mine when people complain about the heat when that kind of thing is normal to me. Like, I have to run in 100 degree weather pretty much every day.

Civilian Tom posted:

And we're at 5000+ feet vertical elevation and in full brunt of the fire season.

rumetzen posted:

Okay I see this is about to go bad places, but that doesn't make much of a difference. I was able to run just fine in Tennessee, which has an elevation of 6000 feet.

Civilian Tom posted:

Eh okay.

rumetzen posted:

Alright then.

So how's the Army going?

Civilian Tom posted:

Didn't work as long as I wanted, It's a Long Story.

Jack Mackerel posted:

Transformers: Cut out the Fifteen Minutes With Jerks, up more robot slapping and dial the military presence down a bit.

Buscemi posted:

Transformers: have the film take place in a retro future where everything still looks like 1984, make Bumblebee a Volkswagen again and put almost all focus on the robots.

shiro okami posted:

Transformers: Cut out the Twenty Minutes with Jerks, have Sam and his parents be normal rather than wimpy, introduce Megatron earlier, and have more robot battles. Also, make the robots have the plating and insignias that they had in the cartoons so that you can tell them apart.

terlwyth posted:

Attack of the Clones: Keep that scene where Padme brings Anakin home, have Anakin not Obi-Wan jump out the window after the assasin, and maybe make it a few years earlier, instead of an unholy 10 years after Episode 1

General Panic posted:

To be honest, my recollection of Watership Down (which I really loved as a kid) is that there weren't really enough "rabbit words" to justify a glossary and they all got explained in footnotes or the text anyway.

KingKalamari posted:

KingJackalope posted:

I can think of at least two works where in-universe slang was so heavy that a glossary would be needed. Both times were pretty good at producing an alienating, othering sort of feeling: Watership Down (rabbits do not think like us, they are not just people with fur) and A Clockwork Orange.

Then The Handle drives that bus straight into stupid town by making one of his examples "Literary fiction".

Antivehicular posted:

like every nerd "look, I made my own fantasy language! Tell me how cool and smart I am!" effort. (You could argue that Tolkien falls into the latter category, even; the man was an exceptional linguist and storyteller, but there are definitely chunks of his work that make it clear that Middle-Earth was largely a vehicle for his constructed-language project. Oh, the songs.)

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World's Most Beautiful Woman: One of Edward's points on his list is to kiss the world's most beautiful girl, who turns out to be his granddaughter.
*In a heartwarming way, not a squicky way.

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The two become friends and have a lot of fun. The good, healthy, swimming-naked-in-the-sea-at-night sort of fun, not the waste-time-surfing-the-net sort naturally.

Gamma Nerd posted: