A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Even though it's a kinda amazing episode, I want to tie down every pro-war Gundam sperg and show them the last episode of Zeta Gundam until it finally sinks into their tiny brain that Gundam is anti-war.

Asterid posted:

I'm only on page 35 of "Anime is the Tie that Binds Us" and I can't believe how something so homophobic could be written by someone part of LGBTQ community.

Then again, he's a troper, so it should be expected, but still

Namtab posted:

I've already spotted the touhou reference

MadRhetoric posted:

Two (sup, Admiral China Meiling Mei Lin), and at least one title is done Touhou song style.

And it never hurts to go back to a throwback with shitthatdidnthappen.txt. A lot of the time now Tropers are just banal or rage inducing. A little bit of levity is necessary amongst so much

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"Cute Monster Girl: Quelaag and her sister, leaning very heavily towards the "monster" side of things. Priscilla counts as well."

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Quelaag provides both Fanservice and Fan Disservice, considering she's half-naked human woman, half-hideous giant spider.

TVTropes posted:

Some girls like
To dress like a witch
Some girls like
To dress like a queen
Best way a girl
Can dress for me
Is in a Goblin suit
(They look so cute...)
— Frank Zappa, Goblin Girl

Any "exotic" being (alien, monster, robot, demon, ghost, etc.) bearing a strong resemblance to an attractive human female, sometimes when she doesn't necessarily have to.

This trope comes in several varieties:

The result of a common form of Bizarre Sexual Dimorphism in fiction, in which the female members of a nonhuman species are much more attractive/less monstrous than the males.
A "cute" female version of a previously-existing monster, sometimes with the original monster having been female to start with (see Gorgeous Gorgons).
A Half-Human Hybrid of said monster that happens to be female. And cute.
An original creation, subject to the same visual conventions as above.

Female One Gender Races are typically these. Very rarely, you will get a Cute Monster Guy (although this is much more common with vampires), and assume that if there is a Monster mash, the few female member(s) will be Cute Monster Girls.

Cute Monster Girls are seen as somewhat troubling by some, since they imply (especially Type 1) that the males of an intelligent species can look like whatever they want, but the females must always be attractive to male humans (because Men Need Martians!). Beyond that it suggests that male monsters should be killed, while the females should be felled in a different way.

Cute Monster Girls are often the mothers of Half-Human Hybrid, while monstrous females rarely are. May be a subset of Stripperiffic, and may therefore contribute to the alienation of some women from genre fandom.

Related to Moe Anthropomorphism and Gijinka in Fan Art circles. Often subject to Fantastic Arousal. Might often also be a Cute Alien Girl and/or Cute Humanoid Animal Girl. See also youkai.

For the male equivalent, see You Sexy Beast.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Even though it's a kinda lovely episode, I want to tie down every pro-war Gundam sperg and show them the last episode of 08th MS Team until it finally sinks into their tiny brain that Gundam is anti-war.

Namtab posted:

E: Just so we're not contentless, I should inform you all that my next big project is every troper writing contest ever. I fear for my immortal soul/boredom threshold

Count Chocula posted:

Cute Monster Girl is another helping of wrong:

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A throughly creepy version of this trope arises in the 2001 version of Planet of the Apes. All of the characters playing apes were made to look like gorillas, chimps, etc. Helena Bonham Carter, on the other hand, looked... well, like Helena Bonham Carter in chimp make-up, eyeshadow, and lipstick. She and the other female chimps (including one played by Tim Burton's ladyfriend Lisa Marie) even had humanlike eyebrows, which was thoroughly bizarre to see on a chimpanzee face. In attempting to make the female apes more realistic, they only made them more attractive. Contributing to the weirdness of the situation, she spent the entire movie flirting with the male human lead.

* And then he kisses her at the end!

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In The Howling, the werewolves are giant, long-snouted and frightening, but when Dee Wallace turns into one, it's cute and fluffy like Benji.

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Pokémon has Gardevoir and Lopunny. Which, it should be noted, look the same regardless if it is male or female.

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Pokegirls is built on this.

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All orcs in Dominic Deegan look close enough to humans to be mutually attractive once you get past the Cute Little Fangs (played straight with Luna, who is fully human and has fangs) and, yes, the green skin. This applies to both male and female orcs, however, so it's partly justified.

feotakahari posted:

I hate to trim "creepy" examples, since they're usually funny as hell, but if that's what it takes to keep these pages around, I'll do it. (I am still bitter about when Unbirthing got cut, and I refuse to lose any more pages that describe intentionally recurring Porn Tropes. Humor is optional, but comprehensiveness isn't [at least not in any wiki worthy of the name], and deviant pornography has tropes just like any other genre.)

Edit: To clarify, I'm not defending any specific page that was recently cut. O-Ring Orifice is an objective trope, but it can be covered as a subsection of Anatomically Impossible Sex, and most of the rest of that stuff seems outside our current mission statement. I'm just worried about future cuts.

Oh Internet posted:

Unbirthing is the odd paraphilia involving an individual wanting to crawl back into (or be swallowed by) the female genitalia and be re-gestated before ostensibly being expelled after some period of time. This is sort of not very possible IRL, so it's limited to the realm of fanfiction and art.

Unbirthing fetishes are most commonly found in the furry community for whatever reason. (No one is surprised.)

O-Ring Orifice posted:

The human body is such a fascinating piece of work; its muscles, skin and tissue are able to flex, bend, and stretch to impressive lengths without permanent injury ... as long as they're worked slowly, that is.

You see, unlike other materials such as rubber, human flesh doesn't have a set elasticity to it, and needs to be conditioned to stretch, bend and deform past its initial limits without risk of tearing, and even then, you risk permanently deforming them so that they can never go back to their initial stretchiness. Even if someone has a "natural" double-jointedness, he or she still must work over those joints and tendons regularly at controlled intervals to stay as limber as needed. In a porno, this is applied to the various orifices that are used during intercourse; Try to force an object too big for your "holes" without conditioning said orifices to handle it, and you risk tearing the inner walls and causing significant internal injuries.

Of course, actually looking at a porno, you'd never realize this; both the guys and the girls seem to have rubber O-rings or rubber bands in place of their actual orifices, able to stretch easily to accommodate whatever is shoved into them without injury, yet stay as tight as needed, and returning to their base elasticity and form within minutes of being "unstuffed". Oh, sure, they may scream when something exceedingly large is worked into them, but they're never really in any pain or danger, and those supposed "screams" of agony will quickly turn to cries of ecstasy after a while.

Also, if the object is not only thick but also long, there's no worry about impalement, either; the belly will just deform into the shape of the object as if the entire body were made of rubber, even shifting around so that they are literally skewered through with no problem (for some of the more extreme examples, though, this part of the trope is usually kept to the realm of fantasy and h-doujins). In reality, depending on your body makeup, anything longer than a few inches runs the risk of puncturing something.

In simpler terms, for all of those porn makers who use this trope, Artistic License - Biology. The human body is a complex organism that requires constant care to avoid injury; it is not an inflatable doll. Also, there is (drawn) porn ("guro") which averts this trope, does not fail biology forever, and presents all the unfortunate consequences.

See also: Anatomically Impossible Sex. May be a hidden subtrope of Strong As They Need To Be.

While extreme insertions ARE indeed possible in real life (Google that phrase. Or don't. Your choice), it does take practice (and a bit of relaxation, or some muscle relaxant use). This is a case of Not Quite Truth in Television. Also, the text in this page is spoiler-marked for your own mental health.

Examples:

Anime & Manga

Cute little fairies that don't explode when humans do painful-looking things to them are often subject to this trope; this is often handwaved by saying that fairies, not being human, are a lot more flexible. []

Subverted by a third party book of sex magic for D&D in which the mage who created the perfect magical lubricant was arrested, law enforcement having found the twisted and broken bodies of many fairies in his home. The lubricant, on the other hand, did allow for the first successful crossbreeding of halfling and ogre.

arcsquad 12 posted:

Instead of Cutting threads, wouldn't it just make more sense to lock, do a clean, and then put a disclaimer at the top warning people not to be creepy. If it reverts back to a cesspool, then keep it locked. If not, then keep an eye on it.

One youtube video made by a goon on a vendetta shouldn't be a reason to obliterate a trope, just to keep a close eye on it.

I just think that it is a little silly to start cutting pages due to exterior opinions. Now, it obviously brought to light the issue, but to obliterate something completely just seems excessive.

arcsquad 12 posted:

It's a shame that the Troper Tales had to go. Not for the major threads with the moaning, angsting and bragging, but for the smaller threads based around games or films.

It had a great watercooler discussion vibe, shame that the majority wrecked it.

Akagikiba posted:

Fanservice is too broad an idea to be catalogued. If we start troping everything that's sexy, then all the trope pages will be cluttered with sexy tropes instead of more depthful story tropes.

The Triumphant posted:

Why do you even need to ask if we want to see it? Of course we do.

Scorched Spitz posted:

Might as well. It's not like Rotty can claim he was playing us all for chumps again.

Lyrai posted:

Are we allowed to post stories of what people like Rotty have been up to recently if it's still stupid/creepy, and related to TVTropes? Because he's been doing stupid poo poo and trying to act like it's all PART OF HIS MASTER PLAN in irc channels I go for a few days now.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

This thread is certified ACCEPTABLE. Good OP.

So let's look at how tropers are taking that whole "culling creepy tropes" business, because it's so bloody important that things like "black bra and panties" stay.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Even though it's a kinda lovely episode, I want to tie down every pro-war Gundam sperg and show them the last episode of 08th MS Team until it finally sinks into their tiny brain that Gundam is anti-war.

Lyrai posted:

Are we allowed to post stories of what people like Rotty have been up to recently if it's still stupid/creepy, and related to TVTropes? Because he's been doing stupid poo poo and trying to act like it's all PART OF HIS MASTER PLAN in irc channels I go for a few days now.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

terrible stuff

Chaltab posted:

Wait, what? I got that Gundam was anti-war when I was twelve. (It kind of pissed me off too. I mean, you have these shows about badass fighting robots and your message is the world would be a better place if they stopped!)

BitterCharisma posted:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.ph...85221200&page=0

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/artic...-05/man-machine The article in question.

paragon1 posted:

Tom, you are a loving moron. One guy with an RPG would take that thing down in seconds. Wouldn't mind seeing two guys fight with them in an arena though.

The thread is dead, long live the thread.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Doesn't Rottweiler already use "Gryphon" as a nickname in several forums

How is a person so transparently stupid

Lyrai posted:

And then today, he logged on and immediately yelled at people for accusing Griffin (That's the name he logged on as) of being Rotty, and that Griffin is really his boyfriend. While most of us are still typing responses, he suddenly says he has to "go have fun with his boyfriend " and then leaves.

Lyrai posted:

So he does the logical, rational thing: Drop off IRC for a few days, then log back on under the same ip, with the same info in the fields, and claim to be a friend of Rotty's. When it's pointed out that he has the same info, he suddenly has to go.

And then today, he logged on and immediately yelled at people for accusing Griffin (That's the name he logged on as) of being Rotty, and that Griffin is really his boyfriend. While most of us are still typing responses, he suddenly says he has to "go have fun with his boyfriend " and then leaves.

Antivehicular posted:

Wait, what? He's saying he's gay now? Wasn't he dating Masochistic Masculist or whatever the hell her name was, the sad self-hating girl?

Young Freud posted:

Also, I'm pretty sure that Tom got Mei Lin from Metal Gear Solid.

Antivehicular posted:

Wait, what? He's saying he's gay now? Wasn't he dating Masochistic Masculist or whatever the hell her name was, the sad self-hating girl?

Eggie posted:

There's another surprise sex joke in here somewhere.

Yeah Bro posted:

Yes, there is a surprise sex joke in there. For everyone who has not checked out the Dominic Deagan Thread, do it. And to humanity as a whole, I apologize.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I think Lyrai meant to say that Rottweiler had a sockpuppet account called "Griffin" (who is a male fictional character), and that the "girlfriend" of Griffin (also Rottweiler) logged on under Griffin's name to say that "she" was going to "have fun with Griffin".

I can't imagine the telos for doing this , but Rottweiler is still firmly sex telos = babies everywhere.

Yeah Bro posted:

TV Tropes posted:

Yiff

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Oh, it's something that allows "cute little fairies" to be hosed by gigantic penises. Very important trope. Also I'm pretty sure I saw that second "subverted" (gently caress this word) example in the Traditional Games FATAL thread mocking a sex-based tabletop gaming book.

Yeah Bro posted:

Yes, there is a surprise sex joke in there. For everyone who has not checked out the Dominic Deagan Thread, do it. And to humanity as a whole, I apologize.

Lyrai posted:

The account that logged on to yell at us for yelling at Griffin was "Rottweiler."

[09:39:35pm] * Rottweiler (**********) has joined
[09:39:48pm] <Rottweiler> Hi all. I've been away, and my boyfriend said he came in here Friday and was accused of being me. Leave him alone, all right?

Urdnot Fire posted:

The "succulent cutlet"? Oh God, I think I know what happened

Lyrai posted:

The account that logged on to yell at us for yelling at Griffin was "Rottweiler."

[09:39:35pm] * Rottweiler (**********) has joined
[09:39:48pm] <Rottweiler> Hi all. I've been away, and my boyfriend said he came in here Friday and was accused of being me. Leave him alone, all right?