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I'm not going to talk about fetishes. It occurred to me that the entry on Theme Naming is a spectacular example of why just listing examples of a thing is a terrible way to go about it; you need to examine WHY the author chose to do it that way and what that contributes to literature as a whole. The only semblance of analysis is the opening two sentences... TV Tripe posted:Authors like to use themes to create a sense of unity or cohesiveness within their work. Some extend themes to the names of the characters, often beyond the similarities that would be expected for characters from the same culture or who all speak the same language. An example off the top of my head: Simon and Kamina from Gurren Lagann. Their names are based on kami "above" and simo "below", suggesting the way they perceive one another: Simon seeing Kamina as someone to look up to and aspire to become, Kamina seeing Simon as the one holding him aloft and enabling him to try and grasp for greater heights. A bit of analysis would cue a competent compiler in that most of TV Tropes' examples aren't actually particularly helpful because none of them really perform a function beyond creating cohesion in a group.
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Patter Song posted:Last month I saw two links to TVT on LP on the same day. Both of them got shouted down for linking to a horrible site.
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| # ¿ May 10, 2012 21:01 |
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Metal Loaf posted:This banned troper decided he'd had enough, so he went and set up the TV Tropes Mirror Wiki on Wikia. The 'Permanent Red Link Club' page posted:All Pedophiles Are Child Molesters: While we understand there is a difference between the two, and admit that, in general, the media tends to portray them as the same thing, we here at the Tropes Mirror simply do not want the controversy!
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| # ¿ May 12, 2012 22:45 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Fake edit: poo poo, just realized that it came off like I agreed with the whole thing! That wasn't what I meant. I only technically agreed with the bolded part, which seemed to be what Crosscontainment focused on! Any acting upon pedophilia is of course child molestation, all I'm pointing out is that a pedophile can choose not to become a child molester, and some child molesters aren't pedophiles, they're just hosed up in different ways. Policing people's thoughts is an immensely uncomfortable prospect for me.
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| # ¿ May 13, 2012 00:19 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Apparently not to tropers. I managed to stumble across a trope whose entire gimmick is it can't work in reality that nonetheless managed to have a Real Life section and intended to post about it, but now I can't find it again. It might be Space is an Ocean but I don't think it is. I found it from the So You Want To/Write The Next Star Trek page.
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| # ¿ May 16, 2012 17:22 |
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Gato posted:What is it with tropers and naming elements? More importantly, what does he think guns were invented if not for killing people? Why wouldn’t people just use other weapons? What has communism got to do with anything? (Also a complete and utter lack of knowledge of how firearms work. I live in the UK and thus know nothing about guns apart from what my TFR friend tells me and I can tell you a) bullets aren't made out of lead, but tungsten; b) rounds exist which can be fired inside a building or a plane and not cause problems, so the entire reason for the existence of Mercyium bullets is specious; c) "Mercyium" is a terrible name no matter how you slice it.)
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| # ¿ May 16, 2012 21:45 |
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Why does Fighteer think that any analysis at all has to be a debate held in public with everyone's laundry thrown around for the world to see? Wouldn't the whole point of the forums under an actually useful TV Tropes be to contain the debate on a particular subject so the site itself contains only the end result and not the deliberations?
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| # ¿ May 17, 2012 16:48 |
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Jasper Chalks posted:It would appear that [Games Workshop] have copyrighted [chainswords]. This does not bode well for Eddie.
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| # ¿ May 19, 2012 12:23 |
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Nautatrol Rx posted:What's worse is that he's not upset at actual critics. He's upset at the slapadaisical kid-glove criticism from tropers he's received regarding his word-salad. If the harshness of literary criticism were to be compared to the Fujita Scale, troper criticism would rank around "a fart in the wind". That's what he's upset about.
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| # ¿ May 19, 2012 18:55 |
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UberShyGuy posted:Honestly, while I don't think TVT is really an irredeemable rapeheap like the deluded jerks over at SA seem to have convinced themselves that it is, I do however think it has some pretty major issues, most of them extending from the moderation team (FE and Madrugada worst of all, obviously, but many of the rest don't seem much, if at all, better) with their asinine, hugboxy policies and the crowd of creepazoids that said policies have attracted. If TV Tropes is redeemable, I'd love to see proposals for reform (even hypothetical ones, given the BTL thread's look-don't-touch rule goes even further than ours) which don't involve burning it to the ground, replacing it with a MediaWiki installation managed by a competent administrative team and banning more or less every troper in the OP of this thread on sight.
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| # ¿ May 20, 2012 22:44 |
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I was referring to this.Bottle posted:WE ARE NOT IMPORTANT
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| # ¿ May 20, 2012 22:58 |
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Celery Face posted:I think Eddie doesn't bother to let users quote because he doesn't want anyone to see the inevitably thumped posts. Doesn't make it less annoying though.
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| # ¿ May 21, 2012 06:32 |
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Volume posted:The same kind of power thewindfish gets off on when he indulges in his pedophile fantasies with his brother.
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| # ¿ May 21, 2012 15:19 |
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General Panic posted:e: Also, why the hell would the town tailor be jealous of your fantastic eyelashes? Don't tell me, "because anime." ![]() Content: Troper "neo YT Pism" apparently thinks men are a) hornier than women b) less emotionally scarred by sexual abuse than women. neo YT Pism posted:Frankly, I think Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female on Male has a lot more potential for controversy, if only because girls abusing guys, and causing trauma to their male victims comparable to that of female abuse victims, is a lot more plausible than girls raping guys and causing trauma to their male victims comparable to that of female surprise sex victims. neo YT Pism posted:I wasn't claiming that women had no libido, just that it tended to be lower than for men. This follows from evolutionary logic; "eggs are expensive sperm are cheap" thus evolution would favour a species where females are generally more careful about sexual reproduction than males.
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Debot posted:I still think we should start measuring horniness in millihumps and just average along various lines to see who's horniest of all. And of course: Madrugada posted:This thread is serving no purpose anymore. The question that was asked in the OP was answered within four posts, and since then it's been little digs at people. Locking it up. Meanwhile, in the White Privilege thread: joeyjojo posted:I know a indian student who named Raj who started getting job call back after he changed his name to 'john' on application forms so I think there is sadly still a lot to be said about having a white name at least.
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| # ¿ May 23, 2012 10:03 |
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You would have thought if they were that worried about purging paedophilia from TV Tropes would lead to a slippery slope they'd make an effort to avoid that by not submitting anything that happens to contain a child and sticking to things that actually contain paedophilia.
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| # ¿ May 24, 2012 02:18 |
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DaveWoo posted:No there isn't, you idiot. They're both terrible ways to create/describe a character. *I wrote a god-awful poem was I was about ten and Y2K was a thing, and it got published in an anthology of children's poetry as part of some deal the school did with the company; I have a copy of it on a shelf somewhere. I wouldn't show it to anyone or use it to justify calling myself a poet or a published author, but it's still a step above anything a troper has ever produced.
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| # ¿ May 24, 2012 18:41 |
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Geokinesis posted:You don't happen to be from the UK do you? As if you do I have the same dubious honour of having my childhood poetry published in possibly the same book.
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| # ¿ May 25, 2012 03:34 |
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And they're keen to note none of them are to be confused with Pavel Chekov and the gun he occasionally uses.
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| # ¿ May 25, 2012 08:34 |
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Hedgehog Pie posted:This is a problem many beginners seem to make, not just Tropers. I remember a screenwriting teacher telling me that when looking over his students' scripts, most musical references would be divided between vague "jazz music plays here" instructions and more specific yet ill-considered talk like "CHARACTER spontaneously starts singing 'Umbrella' by Rihanna". Oh god, what does this mean they've done to the Mega Neko page?
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| # ¿ May 25, 2012 10:32 |
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I love how if you don't write a goddamn step-by-step how-to guide for fixing a piece of writing they accuse you of not telling them how to improve. They are utterly incapable of making basic inferences - the idea that if you call their choice of words "malapropisms" and accuse them of trying to sound smarter than they are you probably need to look up words in a dictionary and make sure they mean what you think they mean is lost on them.
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Ambiguatron posted:The only time you'll roll your eyes at some character at a trench coat is if the author means you to, and if you roll your eyes without the author's permission delivered in the form of a troper-comprehensible encoding, there's something wrong with you, not the creator or the work. I seem to recall that getting mentioned earlier.Time for some content. fulltime D posted:So in a story I am using a nuclear pulse drive on an alien spaceship that is traveling at relativistic speeds. The science officer of the human ship detects that the aliens are using their nuclear pulse drive to decelerate from relativistic speeds (presumably they had originally used it to accelerate). Is this even remotely plausible? Could the aliens do this without blowing themselves up? Matues posted:Ever read the book Marooned in Realtime? fulltime D posted:Fortunately I have similar technology on these ships ("supergravitic shielding") which pushes the ship partially out of the spacetime continuum, so using supergravitic force bubbles to that effect is a possibility. ![]() fulltime D also posted:But I am wondering about it even without that technology. How WOULD one decelerate from 95% light speed? Matues posted:Hit something? Matt II posted:What, like a nebula? Could work I suppose. e: CATEGORICAL IMPERATIVE: TROPES posted:The trope you're looking for is Orion Drive. fulltime D posted:Horrible, horrible, non-indicative name; I remember fighting that one.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Jesus Christ how clueless can you get?
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| # ¿ May 26, 2012 04:48 |
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Looking at the Content Violations Discussion forum I'm amazed how much handwringing there is over whether something which happens to contain a sex scene constitutes fap-fodder. They somehow miss that when comparing sexual content in (say) End of Evangelion with visual novels like Sengoku Rance or My Girlfriend Is The President or whatever, one of the two is giving you explicit nudity as a reward for participating and the other is not. Quoting this to put it on the new page; it's beautiful.
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| # ¿ May 26, 2012 10:16 |
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Patter Song posted:Black Griffon: do your friends do that terrible thing where they write in the unique brand of non-idiomatic English pioneered by anime fansubs? "If you do this, I won't forgive you!" "I must protect you!" "He won't die even if you kill him!" "As expected from that man." "If you thought you could challenge me, you're 100 years too early!" The problem is there's more to l10n than choosing between leaving untranslated words like onigiri alone and turning them into donuts. You have to do some reasonably extensive rewording to deal with idioms like "as expected of" which don't exist in normal colloquial English and get rid of warts like "a certain" (which plagued the script of Metroid: Other M). The one practice that really, really gets my back up more than any other is not removing honorifics. If you seriously cannot convey the meaning of an honorific with wording, you are not competent enough to be translating cultural material into another language. At all. Full stop.
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Nautatrol Rx posted:I swear these kids are some kind of super-mutants with powers to just gently caress everything up and spray poo poo onto the internet. He's wanting to assemble a list of reasons his Nazi-themed fantasy world's inhabitants would want sex slaves.
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| # ¿ May 28, 2012 10:06 |
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Hamburger Helper posted:But why bother with something you dislike at all? Don't Like, Don't Read (or watch, as the case may be).
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| # ¿ May 28, 2012 19:45 |
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quote:black men: Jesus fuckin Christ dude, pull up your goddamn pants and wear clothes that fit. I already have issues with people entering my personal space, you're making it worse. quote:Middle Eastern.
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| # ¿ May 30, 2012 13:56 |
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Snow posted:I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with an optimistic and plausible near-future USA setting, and a story to put there. What I've come up with is disturbing: the country splits mostly peacefully into two or three. You have one country roughly in the South and West that's taking over Cuba and parts of Mexico, versus the Northeast and Midwest with a very different culture and government, with the Pacific coast either in the second group or as a third nation. That is my optimistic scenario at this point.
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| # ¿ May 30, 2012 16:15 |
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Leofish posted:But man, what the hell is up with tropers and TATMNBN? They all seem to love it so much, and this guy is convinced that it should have stayed. e: oh god rapgingmaster fanfiction. The only way to express my response would be to merge with
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| # ¿ May 31, 2012 20:26 |
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Oh my god it's a Vulcan. There are goddamn Vulcans on TV Tropes. "This trope is illogical." "I do not see why I need to hold this knife, especially like this."
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| # ¿ Jun 1, 2012 13:16 |
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I wouldn't be overly surprised if the categorisation originated on Pixiv - they enjoy doing stupid things like that (with tongue firmly lodged in cheek, I hope). Tropers are just completely incapable of detecting sarcasm and/or recognising things which are the product of a Japanese sense of humour. The concept itself (and the use of the term from Evangelion to describe it) almost certainly originates from a joke in a four-panel comic, in the same vein as "symmetrical docking". (Weirdly, this isn't a trope; the closest I could find was Marshmallow Hell. I guess tropers don't care about two sets of tits being mashed together unless they're both twelve-year-olds.
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| # ¿ Jun 1, 2012 22:25 |
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Yes, but as you can see from the URL that's a meme not a trope so (I didn't look outside the Main namespace. I assumed it'd be on the boob index.)
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| # ¿ Jun 2, 2012 02:27 |
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I'm not sure which is more pathetic - the ones hoping for underage pantyshots because they're paedophiles or the ones hoping for underage pantyshots because they feel some sort of obligation to
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| # ¿ Jun 2, 2012 04:21 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:They think everything is surprisingly well-written.
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| # ¿ Jun 2, 2012 09:21 |
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The difference being the Internet creeps don't realise it's supposed to be sarcasm.
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| # ¿ Jun 2, 2012 14:54 |
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Olive Branch posted:Dude, what the gently caress are you going on about. Are you drunkposting or something? It's an interesting, almost Magrittesque philosophy.
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| # ¿ Jun 3, 2012 01:07 |
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Clocks posted:and frankly it's more entertaining than hearing you go on long, rambly diatribes about how "guys, don't fall for trolls" which is all you really needed to say. quote:You don't understand because you're all a school of scared fish in the water instead of sharks. You see the blood and wonder if you should run rather than attacking.
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| # ¿ Jun 3, 2012 01:16 |
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Gender bender deconstruction.... too dark? Translating from Troperese, Fallen Legend wants to write a story which punctures all the stupid gender-bender stories which rely on magic genderswaps and result in the victim completely accepting their new identity after one Standard Galactic Unit of Wacky Hijinks relating to now possessing either breasts or balls where previously they possessed balls or breasts. In the hands of a competent writer this is laudable, because those stories are dumb; however, these are tropers. Doktorvon Eurotrash posted:Offensive to transgender people? I don't think so. The protagonist doesn't come off as a transgender person to me: he wants to become a woman on a whim, because he thinks that would make him happy. He doesn't have a deep-seated conviction that he is a woman whose physical sex doesn't match her actual one.
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Namtab posted:Here's Volatile Chill's Troper Page
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