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WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Metal Loaf posted:

We have missed an opportunity; we could all be posting in TV Tropes Goes Fourth: The Siege Of Dreyorball.

You know, I have to wonder about all the Gundam references in his work. How can somebody so obsessed with the honour and glory of war hold a programme with a strong anti-war message in such high esteem?

By only paying attention to the robots and explosions and bitching about how boring all the talking is.

In honor of the new thread, does any have the story of when Chagen proudly boasted about being a bigoted gently caress to a Muslim girl until she cried? Someone mentioned it in the last thread but no one responded when I asked for details.

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WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


BitterCharisma posted:

The one thing I've always found hilarious about Dropout Tom is that he actually thinks that Gundams will be built in the near future.

Which is really weird, because I always pegged him as the kind of guy who would sperg incessantly about how impractical they would be in actual warfare. Hell, I'm not too much of a weaponry sperg and its still a nagging feeling I have to ignore when watching Gundam, you'd think "I was in the army*, ya know" wouldn't be able to accept it.

*oh god please don't inquire any further

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Franco Potente posted:

I wasn't able to follow along with the rapid speed of the last thread, but could anybody fill me in on Major Tom's banning?

I don't know if there was a specific incident as much as just everyone getting tired of his constant screaming about how much we need to wipe out Russia, China, and all brown people and booting him out of OTC. He's not banned from the site entirely, he's still posting about his Anime Tom Clancy in Writer's Block.

Anyway, that This Troper video Pazuzu posted led me to this, which I feel needs to be reposted. Ladies and gentlemen of TVTropes Goes Forth, Enemy Mayan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6BzAt7i1g
This is a poem he wrote for a woman he had a chance encounter with at the mall one day, hoping she will find it and get in touch with him, entitled Cinemark 18 May 2003, the location and date of their meeting. He posted it on the forums this year. He has been pining after a woman whose name he doesn't even know based on a single conversation they had once for nearly nine years.

Tropers, everyone.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Okay, I can understand how stupid people caught up in Red Dawn fantasies and too dumb to understand how interconnected their economies are could be afraid of the US and China going to war, but why the gently caress would you think that the US needs to prepare for a war with India? They're our allies, we've done nothing but strengthen ties with them since like the 70s, we have a lot of business interests there, and last but not least there has never been a single instance of hostility between the two nations. The closest I can think was when we supported Pakistan during the Indo-Pak War of...I think it was 1965, it might have been the next one, where China and the USSR had a falling-out, so we supported Pakistan in the war since China liked them and we wanted China to like us too. Basically the warfare equivalent of dating the prom queen's ugly friend to try and get in good with the queen. Ever since, though, the US and India have been nothing but friends and allies. I just...don't...

Oh wait, silly me, applying "thought" and "knowing things" to geopolitical issues, I forget that the world is actually just like a game of Civilization V where war can break out at any time between anyone for any reason because we need the most points by 2050 to win.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Hey, Tom, buddy, listen, I thought some things were missing from your introduction of Jessie, thought I'd help you out a bit. I didn't quite know everything about her in the very first line you mention her in, so I took the liberty of fixing that. Here you go, pal!

"Mat took off to the right, that is to say, his right, of course, intent on finding his missing comrade, the newest member of Assault Team Bravo, the 22 year 4 month 11 day old blonde haired, blue eyed, sorta-pale-skinned-but-not-like-super-pale-or-anything small chested Staff Sergeant Jessebelle “Jessie” Marietta Noland, born to parents Rich and Mary Noland of 1557 Wilbur Way, Chicago, IL, who enjoys old ska albums and cheesy romance movies in her downtime at Assault Team Bravo's base."

Now, I couldn't find a way to mention the name of her first boyfriend or any childhood pets, so it's not perfect but hey, free help is free help, right? Go ahead and use it, just mention me in the acknowledgements when you get published, huh, bro?

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


QuoProQuid posted:

Yes, Signed, there are no significant problems that arise from incest. Thank you for backing up your statements with scientific studies. Incest is EXACTLY like LGBT rights.

Well, of course there's no problems associated with inbreeding, just ask our old pal King Charles II of Spain!

Here's his family tree column:

And this had absolutely no ill effect on him, of course!


Wikipedia posted:

Charles II's genome was actually more homozygous than that of an average child whose parents are siblings. He was born physically and mentally disabled, and disfigured. Possibly through affliction with mandibular prognathism, he was unable to chew. His tongue was so large that his speech could barely be understood, and he frequently drooled...Not having learned to speak until the age of four nor to walk until eight, Charles was treated as virtually an infant until he was ten years old.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Linear Ouroboros posted:

I find it so hypocritcal that the same tropers who whine and hold grudges because someone was mean to them once in camp when they were nine are the same ones condoning pedophilia art. Even small levels of exposure to inappropriate sexuality before it's developmentally appropriate can cause kids to have trust, intimacy, and even developmental issues for the rest of their life.

So yeah, the jock who they envision coming up with the stunning comeback that knocked him senseless caused a fraction of the damage they do ogling second graders in the food court.

No but you see, that's totally different, the camp stuff happened to them.

Look at everything Deboss has ever said, or Savage Heathen straight telling a girl he wants to kill her dad or advocating imperialism while getting really angry when you call it imperialism, or Civilian Tom's "people in China deserve to die for allowing themselves to be ruled by the government ." Tropers are too emotionally and mentally stunted to view other people as people. They want to gently caress kids, so that makes it okay.

God, gently caress tropers.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Lightning Knight posted:

We have a user called WeaponsGradeSadness who has an avatar (I think it's currently some woman with a crazy look about her; it used to be a character from The Big Lebowski), and now a new user called WeaponGradeSadness. But, as Allan said, I suppose it's probably just a coincidence. Oh well.

No, they're both me, I just logged in one day and had lost my M.I.A. avatar randomly. I don't know what the gently caress happened, unless someone just didn't like me and decided they were going to buy me the stupid newbie avatar instead of a red title or something. That $5 a week ago for the M.I.A. av was well spent, I guess. I did notice that none of my old avatars were showing up on SAARS, maybe there was some kind of database issue.

So, yeah, it's still me. I'll probably rebuy it soon to avoid confusion as soon as I'm not steamed about the loss of money.

Dauntasa posted:

I have this thread and an LP thread for Final Fantasy x2 that's called "teenage girls changing clothes itt" in my bookmarks. I will have some explaining to do if somebody sees them.

Yeah, I always felt weird about the last thread, hoping no one would see "a fixation on surprise sex" if they looked over my shoulder. Then I saw The Triumphant was making the new thread. "Oh, good, he'll name it 'Why Do These Dickholes Write All This Bullshit' after that thing his girlfriend said, and...oh "

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


RoeCocoa posted:

I'd much rather see arguments about literary theory than yet another page of Let's Fix TV Tropes.

Word to the wise: never, ever, ever look up the TVT page for a show you liked when you were six. At best, you'll find a huge list of tropes compiled by people who take the show way more seriously than you ever did or should.

Man, no loving kidding. Especially the "getting crap past the radar" pages.

Rugrats Radar Page posted:

- If you listen very carefully, you can hear that Dr. Lipschitz, who is revealed to be quite incompetent in one episode, despite supposedly being an expert in infant psychology, has a name which sounds very much like "lip shits."

-It's a real last name though..
-But during the reveal of his incompetency, despite it being a regular name it's given slightly more weight due to his character. A clever sneak.
The only thing I like to laugh at more than stupid people is stupid people getting called out and just digging deeper. Bonus points for reminding me of this worthless poo poo-for-brains.

quote:

In "Barbecue Story," Angelica kicks Tommy's ball over the fence. Tommy delivers a Rousing Speech to the other babies and his diaper straps came undone and his diaper started sliding off. You can see the top half of Tommy's crotch, and he very quickly pulls up his diaper and his cheeks turned red.
This troper's extensive research on this scene has determined the proportion of cartoon baby crotch you can see in a kid's show. Kill all tropers who haven't bent their knee to SA, so on, you know the drill.

quote:

In the episode "Let Them Eat Cake" Tommy and Chuckie accidentally wander into a bar mitzvah/a Jewish ceremony and an obvious bottle of wine is seen on a table.
They put a bottle of wine on a table? In a children's program??

quote:

More outrightly disturbing is the episode when the babies decide not to wear clothes anymore. After the twins strip naked, Tommy says, "Uh, Lil, can I ask you a question?"
-In the same episode, Didi is trying to tell Betty that the nakedness is a natural stage for babies to go through. Betty is not sold on this, saying, "The sixties are over, Deed, and we lost!"
-Interesting episode isn't it. Still funny.
-The creators actually drew Tommy and Chuckie naked but never put it in a serious episode.
The first two are just genuinely funny jokes for parents to laugh at when they watch it with their kids. Then #4 comes in with a serious case of Knowing Too Much About Cartoon Baby Nudity.

quote:

"The Blizzard" had the babies traveling to the North Pole to have Santa fix Chuckie's toy bus. When they reach what they think is the Pole, Angelica starts to complain about how they couldn't find "No toy factory, no funny elves, not even a lame old reindeer turd!" He still can't figure out that line made it past the censors.
Good lord, a poop joke? A children's show is no place for such mature humor!

quote:

The chocolate pudding scene from "Angelica Breaks a Leg" includes Stu bringing Angelica the pudding when she's watching TV. The sounds in the background make it sound like she's enjoying a war movie.
Th...those monsters...

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Lightning Knight posted:

I'd replace one of the length squares, since there's two of them.

And, loving Signed. God I hated that little fuckwit. He's been gone for a long time, though, so there's no new material from him.

You know who I miss, if only because it was hilariously awful to watch? Tongpu. I don't know if you guys know who that is, though.

We've definitely discussed him before, because I recognize the name, but I can't remember any specific heinousness from him--I just remember that someone here, I wanna say The Triumphant, really hates him because he constantly posts lovely things. Care to share more? We could always use some more mockery targets.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


ThatPazuzu posted:

Close, but I think you mean Civilian Lack of Empathy or Knowledge.

I die a little inside every time I see someone call him "Major Tom" instead of Civilian/Washout Tom. He doesn't deserve a military rank, even if it is taken from a David Bowie song.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Count Chocula posted:

I was talking about the remake. The spanking was pretty creepy in that. Wasn't there also a John Wayne movie where he spanks a full grown woman? Creepy.

The spanking was in the book and both movies. And yeah, it's a little weird, but I guess it fits with the time period it was set in where whipping kids for misbehaving was really common to the point where I can easily imagine someone doing it to someone else's kid, and I definitely don't think there was anything sexual about it. Tropers, of course, will still read that into it, though. Please someone tell me we're just discussing a hypothetical and none of them have actually posted about that.

I really like True Grit.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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JosephWongKS posted:



Goddratit.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that they include the spanking trope, or the fact that they refer to Mattie Ross, whose entire loving character is being a tough, hard-as-nails, take-no-bullshit lead who is dedicated, strong-willed, and independent, as a "Cutie."

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Count Chocula posted:

Here's that list of Western characters. It's pretty long and well-classified, but I bet 90% of the examples are Firefly, Red Dead Redemption, and Deadwood:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...sternCharacters

Yeah, pretty much, although to be fair, Red Dead Redemption is basically a pastiche of the western genre so most of those would be in RDR even if the list was compiled before the game.

Although on that page, I noticed their trope name for someone of mixed ancestry who has trouble being accepted in either community is "Half Breed." loving seriously? The page even mentions "this is a really offensive term in real life! " Then why did you name your trope that?

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


Urdnot Fire posted:

Speaking of Bronies, that guy reading A Game of Thrones just got to a part where a character is learned to have been gang-raped. First he loves the dick orchestrating it for being a Magnificent Bastard and then he says this:


See how the Media threads can be a lovely resource for horribleness?

I cannot loving believe you can post this and not get banned on their forums. Or at least shunned by the community for being terrible. Holy poo poo. Burn TVTropes to the ground.

I mean, seriously? Is anyone calling him out on this? Like I don't know the answer already.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


JosephWongKS posted:

I wonder if Debot goes for robotic sex scenes too.

He's actually into "large, busty redheads that know how to fight"!

Comic book characters, basically. The manchild's ideal woman is Batgirl.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


I will never understand tropers' obsession with cataloging every single possible whiff of a trope. From their Red Dead Redemption page:

quote:

Did Not Do the Research:
Marston uses a Gatling gun during the assault on Fort Mercer. Considering the time period, it would have been more accurate for him to use a Maxim machine gun. Probably intentional due to Rule Of Cool and Gatling Good. It's also justified - the gatling gun was an obsolete piece of army surplus gear that just happened to be lying around. Period-appropriate machine guns also appear and are used later in the game.

Note that this was all written by one dude, it wasn't multiple bullet points or anything. "They didn't do the research when selecting this gun! Also, there's a clear, in-universe explanation for why this is, and the developers clearly know what they're talking about since the appropriate gun shows up later. Maybe this isn't really a whoops I hit post anyway! "

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Volume posted:

Jesus chirst, the mods then do stalk out this thread for what's wrong with their site. Any one wondering what the old pic was just check the history. I like Shimaspawns reason for changing it too

Yeah, I was wondering about this when I bitched about "Small Name, Big Ego" being listed on M.I.A.'s page and it was removed within minutes, but I guess there's no question now, that's way too many times for it to be a coincidence.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


So the Idiots on Facebook thread is talking about people outing themselves as racists for being upset that characters in the Hunger Games that were explicitly non-white in the books aren't played by white people in the movie. Because I take this thread too seriously I guess it made me wonder what tropers have to say about it.

TVTropes posted:

Aerith and Bob [WGS note: more or less what it sounds like, the trope for some in a work having weird fantasy names while others in the same work have normal ones]: Katniss, Peeta, Gale, Twill, Chaff... Bonnie, Annie and Johanna. Huh.
People from different, highly-segregated parts of the world have different naming conventions??

quote:

Americanitis: Averted, though the series takes place in North America or to be more accurate, what's left of it, the United States has passed so far into the mists of time that it is barely even a memory and geography is only described in the vaguest of terms.
Americanitis links to "Cultural Translation aka Americanitis," the trope for things like some anime changing rice balls to donuts when imported so that American audiences will more easily relate. Note that it has absolutely loving nothing to do with whatever this guy's talking about, even as an aversion. The trope this guy thinks he's talking about seems to be "Does America exist in this work? If yes, trope. If no, aversion! "

quote:

Apocalypse How: In the backstory: it's continental societal disruption at the least, leading to the creation of Panem. No other countries are mentioned, possibly implying that there aren't other countries.

This isn't that bad, but come on guys, other countries aren't mentioned because even the different districts of Panem can't communicate with each other and the Capitol is constantly described as a bunch of self-absorbed first-worlders who are an exaggerated caricature of the average American being out of touch with anything outside their immediate sphere. It's not implying anything.

YMMV posted:

Crosses the Line Twice: From the first book:

quote:

We were resting a moment by a stream when we saw him. A young buck, probably a yearling by his size. His antlers were just growing in, still small and coated in velvet. Poised to run but unsure of us, unfamiliar with humans. Beautiful.
Less beautiful perhaps when the two arrows caught him, one in the neck, the other in the chest. Gale and I had shot at the same time. The buck tried to run but stumbled, and Gale’s knife slit his throat before he knew what had happened. Momentarily, I’d felt a pang at killing something so fresh and innocent. And then my stomach rumbled at the thought of all that fresh and innocent meat.
"Crosses the Line Twice" is when there's so much violence that it goes from funny to sick, and then loops around and becomes funny again. I'm not seeing "funny" or "sick," though? There's some dry humor in it, I suppose, but it's in the way she describes it, not the fact that there is violence. Tropers, I guess.

quote:

Mockingjay. Just... Just Mockingjay. Did Collins really feel the need to kill off Finnick and Prim??? Did she really need to make Gale and Katniss's mother effectively disappear? Did she HAVE to make it so goddamn depressing to the point where it was hardly enjoyable?!
"Guys, why is this novel about the cost of war trying to make me sad?? "
Jesus Christ, just read Civilian Tom's transcript of his last Starcraft II match if you don't want to be made sad reading a book about children forced into a war.

quote:

Family Unfriendly Aesop: Violence is the answer!
You loving moron, everyone is forced into violence and the main characters all lose loved ones and end up hosed in the head with crippling PTSD, you goddamn idiot how could you possibly not catch that you aaaaaaaugh I'm done for now, I can't do this anymore.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime


The Triumphant posted:

Man, if everything we do we do to get laid, who the hell are tropers trying to seduce?

My favorite part of any mock thread on these here forums is when someone we're making fun of just assumes that everyone else is hosed up in the exact same way they are and so have no problems just blurting out their issues.

Seriously, I can't imagine how sad a life one must lead if every single thing they do is based around whether or not it will get them laid. Like, yeah, sex is great and all, but drat do something for yourself every now and then.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

The Napoleon of Crime



If the opening quote of an article is from a hentai you can just go ahead and assume that article doesn't need to exist.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go take a magnet to my hard drive.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Solomonic posted:

Further proof that he would be a troper.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel, Western Animation posted:

Dave the Barbarian had Twinkle the Marvel Horse, a deeply disturbed rainbow horse with the mannerisms of Christopher Walken. Most of his clips have been gathered here. His scenes are extremely jarring because they're literally the only source of dark humor in the series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnnhPl2KUg

Not just Nightmare Fuel, but High Octane Nightmare Fuel.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Roland Jones posted:

Now, you're forgetting one important distinction, one that separates Lovecraft from pretty much every troper: Lovecraft could write.


It's the only victory they can claim now. Every other defense they've used has been proven to be worthless or false, and every day they're shown to be worse and worse. The only thing they can claim is that there isn't any more terrible stuff than the literal thousands of posts worth of examples we've found, which of course isn't really true anyway since, as stated, we're still finding more and they're making more every day. But it's the closest thing to a victory they can claim.

Except, of course, we just tore that apart too. Whoops. Guess they can't win at all.

The only reason we're slowing down is because people here aren't focusing on the main pages. Most things there aren't as awful as Troper Tales or OTC, but there's still a lot of stuff worth mocking there. I mean, I just found someone who decided that a pony from a show that was my favorite show when I was 12 was worth adding to their page for things so scary that they go beyond the original page for scary things.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Flare_knight posted:

Just as a general question, wouldn't most people who post in and read this thread be happy if this thread had no reason for existing? Like, if TVTropes goes through with this realization and actually removes our ability to talk about the horrible poo poo they have on the site because the horrible poo poo is no longer on the site, and this topic has to close, would anyone here actually consider that a loss of anything more then maybe a little entertainment?

This is my favorite thread on the forums, so yeah, I'd be kinda sad if they greatly improved. Although ideally they'd never expand or get new members so the stupidity can be contained and we can just laugh at the regular cast effectively quarantined away.

I mean, yeah, they should clean up and not be so loving awful, but if they did that I'd be a little sad at not having these guys to laugh at anymore.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Are we seriously loving arguing about boobs in fictional works?

The TVTropes is coming from inside the thread!

Flare_knight posted:

Not if I remember right. Someone posted some stats and TVTropes is something like, 300? I think, spots above SA in Hits per Day. They're both in the top 1500, if I remember correctly but TVTropes is higher.

It's really sad that there's only 300 spots between our forums that charge 10 dollars and aren't visible to anyone who hasn't for some fairly long periods of time (I remember being locked out for weeks sometimes when I was just a lurker) and their 100% free forum.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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The Triumphant posted:

It's like we're doctors and we're trying to tell him he has cancer. He refuses to believe us but he's heard it so many times that he figures he ought to take some action. And so he just saws off his fingers, one at a time, sure that if he keeps cutting he'll eventually make us shut up.

To be fair, getting rid of those was really an objectively good idea. Hundreds upon hundreds of examples of people making GBS threads themselves in terror while watching Dave the Barbarian or playing that Spyro game isn't really the kind of thing any website needs--except this thread, I guess.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Celery Face posted:

He said that he was supposed to go at around September but his physical exam expired so he had to wait a few extra months or something like that.

Well, hopefully the Army can get him straightened out. I know just being in JROTC in high school helped me a lot with learning confidence and how to talk to people and poo poo like that since it's all so team-oriented and they expect you to be able to lead if you need to no matter what your rank, and I'm sure that's kicked up to 11 in the actual services. Maybe he'll finally be able to talk to people one day.

Seriously, as much as I make fun of the dude, MVL is the one troper that I really feel pity for (besides The Good Ones like lolacat, etc.). Dude tries to be sociable and he just can't do it and has to drown his sorrows in girly drinks by himself.

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Well the idea behind the "averted" tropes is that it's supposed to be notable if a movie DOESN'T use a trope that you'd expect (like say a hardboiled detective who doesn't drink at all), but yeah, sometimes they get out of hand.

Yeah, aversions and subversions and inversions and any other versions they have don't need to be as banal as they are, if they didn't just have it as "this didn't happen." Like the trope where someone is caught in an explosion/fall to which another character says "There's no way they survived that!" and you can be pretty much sure that they did, in fact, survive that. There's a part in Mass Effect 3 (minor, minor spoilers for a tertiary character, but I know how some Bioware fans are so here's your warning) where, if Wrex is alive at the start of the game, you and he are in one tank, Wrex's brother Wreav is in a tank behind you in the convoy. You come under attack, and Wreav, who it's been hinted at will cause trouble because he doesn't want peace between the clans which is Wrex's goal, ends up having his tank hit hard enough to knock it off a cliff. Wrex orders his driver not to slow down, because Wreav's an rear end in a top hat, and besides, no one could have survived that!

You (or at least I did) expect him to come back because of the trouble he was threatening to cause and the fact that the words "No one could have survived that" have the magical power to bring people back to life. Then it turns out that, nope, he is just dead That's an aversion that could work, it builds up your expectations (probably inadvertantly on BW's part, but whatever) and then that trope doesn't come to pass, subverting your expectations.

As it stands, though, their a/sub/inversions are just:
"Tsundere: averted, Apocalypse Now does not have any tsundere characters, which is why [ANIME] is better."

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Again, no context. I could just keep going, as apparently only half the people read the rule. "Character's physical traits reflect their personality" is a valid storytelling device, but the way this page is right now, it might as well be "characters who have brown eyes", which is entirely pointless.

I don't understand how a character having a natural eye color means anything to begin with, though? Especially when it's the eye color that the vast majority of mankind actually has. Like, okay, red eyes means 'bad guy' 99 times out of a hundred, fair enough, that's a pretty common trope:





Plenty of evidence for that. But how does "this character has the most common eye color on earth" translate to "maybe this character has earth-based superpowers?" Or even basic stuff like "dependable?"

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Mors Rattus posted:

I think it's just a gag about Twilight being terrible and a Guitar Hero song being hard.

I just can't believe that people still think "That Dragon Force song on Guitar Hero sure is hard! " and "boy, Twilight sure isn't great " are hilarious jokes. Like, TtFaF was on Guitar Hero III from 2007 and Twilight-bashing is just about as old. If you're going to make a joke about one of those things, which have both been done to death over the last five years, you'd better bring your loving A-game.

Anyway, Civilian Tom continues to be an amazing writer! In the thread "Let's Talk about : Villains!!," the question is posed "What do you think makes an awesome villain?" The answers are surprisingly okay, though I may disagree with a lot of them they're generally decent answers that I only don't like from a difference-of-opinion standpoint. Then our favorite washout comes along:

Washout Tom posted:

One who gets stuff done even if he/she doesn't win in the end. There's nothing more pathetic from a writing angle than the Harmless Villain.
Tom's favorite type of villain: One who does a thing! Good job, Tom!

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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Jygallax posted:

Wow, poo poo is really going down, these are some big ideas they are talking about. Are they finally realizing that there is such a thing as notability?

Anyways the misogynist I was talking about was in this thread
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.ph...92500100&page=0
Sober-Irishman, about five posts down.

I like how he just throws "fat" into his strawman feminist's outrage apropos of nothing. That one word makes me think this is based on a true story except he actually was being a fat chauvinist and got called out on it by a reasonable woman, instead of the usual "well, I've never met a feminist but boy I've heard they're like this!".

WeaponGradeSadness
Dec 27, 2010

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InShaneee posted:

Just to be clear.

Bobby G is actually probably the best person on the site. If you notice, he says "Just to be clear, is our policy..." not "our policy is," so I'm pretty sure that's disbelief. He's literally the only mod that tried to foster actual discussion instead of thumping people for speaking out against racism, sexism, and pedophilia.

MagicalDuck posted:

The Anime That Must Not Be Named has been wiped. So has the infamous Boku no Pico.

Thank God.

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Dec 27, 2010

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Lance Streetman posted:

But but but library teen section ghost in the shell justifies my pedo manga!

What loving world is Feo from where "exploding heads and graphic lesbian orgy" isn't exactly the kind of thing that a teen boy would read?

Oh, right, the same one where "13-year-old boy stabs 13-year-old girl and they both enjoy it" is considered a sex scene.

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Dec 27, 2010

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LightningKimba posted:

I gotta question Katie's tastes in guys if she's into the whole "Oh I sound Shakespearian just to impress you because I'm a total tool otherwise". That, and I kinda doubt most people would need to switch over to a mode just to talk to pe- Wait this is tropers. 'Course they'd do that, nevermind.

The worst part is, this could have worked if both the author and the character were aware of how stupid and cheesy it sounded and was saying it tongue-in-cheek to make the girl laugh. That could have been genuinely funny and endearing. But I get the feeling Feo thinks it actually is "romance-mode" and that's how people talk to girls they like and it will totally get her wet because because real life is just like the romance in a lovely fantasy novel.

Hoover Dam posted:

What nobody's mentioned yet is that the makeup and outfit, as described, would make Scarlet look like a clown.

Personally, I think "17-year-old woman" is my favorite part. That's how you know it was written by someone about 15. You know, more so than everything else.

Namtab posted:

That's almost as dumb as that fanfic

I don't think it's quite as bad as it sounds, but it's basically an Ender's Game knock-off (lots of things in the first ME, down to the entirety of the main plot, are knock-offs of other sci-fi, even moreso than your average fantasy/sci-fi) in that these bug people started a war over a misunderstanding, got wiped out down to a single queen, and then you can choose whether to let her go to repopulate her people under the understanding that she'll leave the rest of the galaxy alone or just flush her containment cell with acid.

Glitterbomber posted:

DEEP STORYLINE.

Also to be clear this is 100% accurate, they tried to eat everyone because


and now they're sorry. Finding them basically goes 'woah poo poo it's those not-zerg that tried to eat the universe!' 'Yea, our bad, crazy times am I right?' 'Ok, I forgive you' and then you leave and it means nothing.

In the first game, yeah, in 2 it's revealed that the Reapers drove them crazy (the reapers did basically every Bad Thing) to try and wipe out as much as possible ahead of their purge.

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Dec 27, 2010

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Bad Bromance posted:

Haha I feel the need to mention this every time a quote from Barkey ends up here, he gets really mad when black men date white women. Direct quote, he is against such relationships "on principle."

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess no one challenged him or asked what "principle" he bases that on, huh?

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Dec 27, 2010

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Okay, which one of y'all is responsible for this?


Or is hatred of TVTropes finally becoming widespread enough for even random red-title-buyers?

Anyway, in breaking news, tropers still shouldn't be allowed to write:

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Dec 27, 2010

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Lance Streetman posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...8#post402351053

Also, timg that fucker. You're breaking my heart tables.

Ah, I totally forgot about that. I just saw it in the Book Barn and assumed he said something in there that got him title'd.

Also, yikes, sorry, didn't notice about the tables. Fixed.

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Dec 27, 2010

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Mr. Pumroy posted:

quote:

Hahahahahahahahaha

Honestly. How do you even begin to get your brain to twist itself into the kind of contortions necessary to think this. "Sure he quoted Stormfront, preached racial segregation, believed in inherent racial differences, was an actual racist, but a white supremacist? Pffft. Not even! (Also he was identified with a British nationalist party that is basically Nazis but that's not mentioned here. Too bad.)" But then I guess he's had a lot of practice equivocating on how his pedo funnybooks aren't actual pedo funnybooks.

I don't pity Fast Eddie a bit. He ran a lovely website and now he's dealing with the lovely people it's attracted. This has been a fun ride and shows every sign of getting better.

edit: VVV yes, how could I forget. If he says he's not then he's not. Whether it's analyzing fiction or people, tropers just can't get past the superficial facade in any way.

The dude literally said that non-white people shouldn't be granted citizenship or voting rights. His post in "what's your ideal country" said that his ideal country has a 2% or less non-white population. These are unambiguous words straight out of his own mouth. The man's subhuman trash who isn't worth the oxygen that keeps him alive and I'm surprised even fellow scumbag Feo is willing to stoop low enough to defend him.

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Dec 27, 2010

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Build Your Own Boat posted:

I read that as "raped by shotguns" and it didn't strike me as odd. Does this say something about me? Or about them? Perhaps what they've done to me.

I didn't realize it didn't say shotguns until this very post. I just read it, rolled my eyes and thought "troper's anime."

So I think it says more about them. Or what they've done to all of us.

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Dec 27, 2010

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Scorched Spitz posted:

Not only do I hate this guy, I hate everyone who ever said anything nice about him.

I know I've sorta half-joked before about how everyone this thread compliments turns out to have some awful loving flaw that gets revealed just afterwards, but holy poo poo did Draven just kick it up to 11. We went from "yeah, this guy seems alright, he might be one of the good ones!" to "wow, that's a little weird" to "holy poo poo this guys awful" and now finally at "this fucker doesn't deserve to breathe." I don't think anyone's managed to crash our positive opinion of them into the ground so hard before.

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