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DerDestroyer: Jun 27, 2006

Man-Thing posted:

I will point out that Liara isn't actually female, and the Asari are omnigendered and morph to have whatever needed biology their mates require on a case-by-case basis.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that was never spoken of outside of insane fanfic circles and some speculative poo poo at a bar table in ME2. Either way this thread just took a turn for the worse.

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Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet).

DerDestroyer posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that was never spoken of outside of insane fanfic circles and some speculative poo poo at a bar table in ME2. Either way this thread just took a turn for the worse.

There is only one implication from that statement, and it is horrifying.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:14

richardfun: Aug 10, 2008; Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

ub posted:

It's the Canadian memorial at Vimy Ridge.

That it is. I take it you've been there?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:16

Nigulus Rex: Jun 13, 2006

Anyone have any help for this save issue? I put my old ME2 save in the correct folder, went to select a new game, and clicked my file. Then when I click "import," the sound effect happens that I clicked the button but nothing happens. I would really rather not start without all my choices from ME2...

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:17

Man-Thing: Apr 29, 2011; Whatever knows fear
BURNS at the touch

^ ^ If you played the game and saved it on a different XBox you may just be hosed. That's what happened to me with ME1 -> ME2

DerDestroyer posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that was never spoken of outside of insane fanfic circles and some speculative poo poo at a bar table in ME2. Either way this thread just took a turn for the worse.

Are you telling me the humans taking out their innocent Salarian co-worker to a "bachelor party" he doesn't even want would lie to him for their own amusement?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:18

BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007

Man-Thing posted:

I will point out that Liara isn't actually female, and the Asari are omnigendered and morph to have whatever needed biology their mates require on a case-by-case basis.

Uh, as much as this is a hilarious screenname/post combo, it's also wrong. Asari do not "morph" into different biologies. All other species consider them attractive and it's implied that this is a mental/chemical reaction, but nothing suggests that their bodies actually change to accommodate their partners.

Banjodark posted:

I disagree, it doesn't suck. Kaidan the character is allowed to have emotions and feelings and then express them regardless of your shepard's sexuality. It's your choice and freedom as Shepard to decide to act on them or not.

Well I mean, it sucks in the same sense that Liara/Jack/Tali always interprets your kindness as more than just you being friendly. I can totally understand why players didn't expect or want all those upper-right-corner options to be revealed in retrospect as setting up romantic notions in these NPC's heads. I suppose it's realistic that certain characters would start to fall in love with you regardless of whether you were sending any signals or not because that's just how real people work...but for a game, it can be a bit jarring.

But again, I have to reiterate that ME3 is much, much better about this than the previous games, pretty much to the point that complaining about it is just nitpicking. Especially with Kaidan...I mean, a gay relationship with him is by far the most difficult romance to achieve in the course of the series, so I do have to chuckle a bit at people who fall into it accidentally because you are "accidentally" ignoring every available woman in the galaxy throwing herself at you so, really, can you blame the guy for wondering?

Banjodark posted:

This is what makes mass effect better than Dragon Age in regards to queer sexuality by the way. There are characters in this game (ashley, garrus, tali, jack, miranda,) who are straight, characters who are bi (Liara kaidan,) and characters who are gay (cortez and traynor). They make no excuses about it and aren't compromised by your decision to play a male or female shepard. They don't magically all turn gay/lesbian based on your gender.

I completely agree. One of the things I like the most about this series (and some other BioWare games, to varying degrees) is how it causes you to consider a lot of interesting notions about gender and sexuality and the way that they function in everyday life in ways you wouldn't ordinarily even consider.

Take the scene in the Mars mission where you, Liara, and the Virmire survivor are trying to find a way to cross the tram or whatever. Ashley/Kaidan goes off to find a doodad, and Liara mentions something like "The Lieutenant-commander/Major has become very capable, hasn't she/he?" and Shepard goes "She/he sure has." Depending on if you're romancing Liara, or Ashley, or Kaidan, or none, in addition to the gender and sexuality of your Shepard, this one single scene of one single exchange between two characters can be interpreted in a dozen different ways. I find that kind of stuff completely fascinating, how different lines spoken by different people have different meanings, intentionally or not, depending on purely social constructs of gender and sex.

Maybe it's just me though!

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:19

Nigulus Rex: Jun 13, 2006

Man-Thing posted:

^ ^ If you played the game and saved it on a different XBox you may just be hosed. That's what happened to me with ME1 -> ME2
Are you telling me the humans taking out their innocent Salarian co-worker to a "bachelor party" he doesn't even want would lie to him for their own amusement?

Well, I'm on the PC soo...

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:21

Banjodark: Jun 10, 2001; Beautiful and good
Punishing with his kindness
Jacob is perfect

Lotish posted:

All the same, I kind of wonder at what point the Asari broke from standard sexual reproduction in their evolutionary line. If you take our own genetics, the Y chromosome is a damaged or mutated form of the X. In time, some geneticists theorize that the Y will break entirely, and at that point it'll be impossible for males to either be created or breed more males. At this point it'll be necessary for females to either recreate the Y or find a different means of reproduction, possibly involving cloning.

Self-cloning is essentially what the Asari do, but they randomize their DNA through the use of their biotic melding ability. Assuming they had males at one point in their evolution (as they do behave as sexual creatures), did they develop this melding ability before their males died out or as a response to their males ceasing to exist/not breeding true? Once the females were able to make their children without actual sexual contact, males would be strictly unnecessary, and would not be created from the self-cloning process. They could have just become obsolete.

We are on the verge of this turning into a tali's sweat moment, but you could argue that their evolution was altered by the protheans, especially if you bring javik to thessia with you. The protheans gave the asari their biotic powers and perhaps enabled them to randomize their DNA and have more variance in their species over time

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:22

Dr. Abysmal: Feb 17, 2010; We're all doomed

BrianWilly posted:

Especially with Kaidan...I mean, a gay relationship with him is by far the most difficult romance to achieve in the course of the series, so I do have to chuckle a bit at people who fall into it accidentally because you are "accidentally" ignoring every available woman in the galaxy throwing herself at you so, really, can you blame the guy for wondering?

In my case I had to friendzone Kaidan because I had not been able to speak to Liara to "lock in" my romance with her yet (even if you tell her early on that you want to be together, you still have to pick "I want more than friendship" with her later on the Citadel to make it count) and when I rolled up to Kaidan he told me how he felt. I had to shoot the poor guy down, he forgot that I liked the blue chicks from back in the first game I guess.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:26

Lotish: Dec 10, 2008; I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!

Banjodark posted:

We are on the verge of this turning into a tali's sweat moment, but you could argue that their evolution was altered by the protheans, especially if you bring javik to thessia with you. The protheans gave the asari their biotic powers and perhaps enabled them to randomize their DNA and have more variance in their species over time

Eee. Hadn't considered the Tali sweat thing; I was out of the ME2 thread long before that came up, I think. I just find biology fascinating, and sci-fi leaves openings for the imagination down that vein (like what do turians have to eat in order to grow their metallic scales). I'll try to avoid that in the future; ME3 has made enough of us uncomfortable already.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:31

CommanderCoffee: Feb 27, 2011; Ladies.

Dr. Abysmal posted:

In my case I had to friendzone Kaidan because I had not been able to speak to Liara to "lock in" my romance with her yet (even if you tell her early on that you want to be together, you still have to pick "I want more than friendship" with her later on the Citadel to make it count) and when I rolled up to Kaidan he told me how he felt. I had to shoot the poor guy down, he forgot that I liked the blue chicks from back in the first game I guess.

Well his head was slammed into the side of a shuttle multiple times.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:39

Aristobulus: Mar 20, 2007; Slap omni-gel on
everything.

These avatars paid for Lowtax new boat.

Lotish posted:

Eee. Hadn't considered the Tali sweat thing; I was out of the ME2 thread long before that came up, I think. I just find biology fascinating, and sci-fi leaves openings for the imagination down that vein (like what do turians have to eat in order to grow their metallic scales). I'll try to avoid that in the future; ME3 has made enough of us uncomfortable already.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a biology discussion necessarily - I mean I find it interesting that ME is a detailed enough universe to allow it in the first place.

It's all in the tone. The Tali sweat thing was creepy and disturbing not just because it was about Tali's sweat, but because it was also being used to try and make yet another "TALI IS AWESOME AND THE BEST EVER" point at its heart, so he came to the conclusion that Tali's sweat was delicious and nutritious for humans and such.

It wasn't a serious, reasonable, intelligent thought he was laying out, basically. He decided first and foremost that he wanted to find a scientific reason why Tali was the best and went from there.

In short, you're not going into Tali Sweat territory just because you're discussing biology. Just pay attention to your tone.

Banjodark posted:

We are on the verge of this turning into a tali's sweat moment, but you could argue that their evolution was altered by the protheans, especially if you bring javik to thessia with you. The protheans gave the asari their biotic powers and perhaps enabled them to randomize their DNA and have more variance in their species over time

It's pretty difficult to really know that much in detail about the Asari, because it takes more knowledge of farther back in their past than we really find out about. I don't think I'm off base in saying that there were never any male Asari though.

I mean poo poo, that's pretty easy to tell because they never even had gender as a concept until they met alien races. Yes, you hear them refer to a "mother" and a "father" but that's more for the benefit of so that other races can understand things.

I think, after ME3, it's definitely a strong possibility that the protheans had more to do with Asari development than people thought. I don't know if they actually specifically did anything to alter their evolutionary path like that, but it's hard to say. I will say this though, wasn't Thessia just always a planet with lots of eezo, regardless of the Protheans? That likely had a lot to do with their biotic development and being such strong, natural biotics probably is why they work with mind melding and what not.

Like, that mind melding is tied into reproduction so I'm not saying I think the Asari ever had a time where they weren't biotic, just that the planet having so much eezo led into everything they can do. What's really a question is if the Protheans had anything to do with Thessia having so much Eezo. Perhaps they intentionally spread Eezo throughout the planet? Or perhaps it was just there naturally without the Protheans doing anything.

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BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007

Dr. Abysmal posted:

In my case I had to friendzone Kaidan because I had not been able to speak to Liara to "lock in" my romance with her yet (even if you tell her early on that you want to be together, you still have to pick "I want more than friendship" with her later on the Citadel to make it count) and when I rolled up to Kaidan he told me how he felt. I had to shoot the poor guy down, he forgot that I liked the blue chicks from back in the first game I guess.

Huh, that's surprising. When my FemShep romanced Garrus, I reaffirmed my relationship with him early in the game, and Kaidan never brought our relationship up again despite me speaking to him before Garrus in their post-Cerberus coup Citadel meetings. That might be because I "cheated" on him in ME2 though.

Well, I suppose that does make the Kaidan thing easier to come by. Still one of the harder ones to achieve though, considering that if you romance Miranda, Tali, or Jack, their "lock in" scenes occur earlier, and if you do Ashley then Kaidan's dead.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:42

Banjodark: Jun 10, 2001; Beautiful and good
Punishing with his kindness
Jacob is perfect

Dr. Abysmal posted:

In my case I had to friendzone Kaidan because I had not been able to speak to Liara to "lock in" my romance with her yet (even if you tell her early on that you want to be together, you still have to pick "I want more than friendship" with her later on the Citadel to make it count) and when I rolled up to Kaidan he told me how he felt. I had to shoot the poor guy down, he forgot that I liked the blue chicks from back in the first game I guess.

put off your conversation with kaidan on the citadel until you have the chat with liara, they're not in order, you can go to liara first. Her's should unlock pretty quickly/at the same time.

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jcp982: Apr 5, 2011

Can anyone else in your main party die? Just Ashley/Kaiden?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:48

Banjodark: Jun 10, 2001; Beautiful and good
Punishing with his kindness
Jacob is perfect

jcp982 posted:

Can anyone else in your main party die? Just Ashley/Kaiden?

garrus and tali can be dead from me2, you can never install/rescue javik and apparently you can lose squad mates if you have really low war assets/readiness during the final battle.

dont ask me about that last one though, I didn't experience it.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:50

MadDogMike: Apr 9, 2008; Can I come out and play?

thebardyspoon posted:

Apparently you can get her to change her name if you meet her on the citadel, then she doesn't die.

I (and some other folks) asked about this earlier but looks like it shot off the thread too quick; is there any way to edit a save to have the individual in question show up? For some reason it never let me unlock having dinner with Kelly in ME2 so now apparently I'm SOL? Or at the least, anybody know how to edit a ME2 save to pull that off? I can still restart if I edit my ME2 transfer save I suppose.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:51

melon farmer: Oct 28, 2009; My boy says he can eat fifty eggs, he can eat fifty eggs!

Garrus can die in ME2, and you can make Tali kill herself on Rannoch by letting Legion upload the code and then siding with the geth in the next prompt

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:51

MrJacobs: Sep 15, 2008

Beat the game, and was wondering if multiplayer only effected one character profile or would it effect all profiles.

So if I keep playing MP but import a save/start a new game later with a new Shep, would any of my multiplayer stuff result in a slight bonus for galactic readiness?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 01:56

Nucular Carmul: Jan 26, 2005; Melongenidae incantatrix

MrJacobs posted:

Beat the game, and was wondering if multiplayer only effected one character profile or would it effect all profiles.

So if I keep playing MP but import a save/start a new game later with a new Shep, would any of my multiplayer stuff result in a slight bonus for galactic readiness?

It affects all profiles.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:03

Anonononomous: Jul 1, 2007

Does Morinth show up in ME3? I haven't seen anyone mention her.

Also, is there any way to check what you did with Tali's quest in ME2? On my paragon file, I apparently did not do what I needed to in her ME2 quest to convince the Quarians to stand down and would like to know if I'm going to have the same issue on my renegade file.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:04

Sankis: Mar 8, 2004; But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?

Anonononomous posted:

Does Morinth show up in ME3? I haven't seen anyone mention her.

Also, is there any way to check what you did with Tali's quest in ME2? On my paragon file, I apparently did not do what I needed to in her ME2 quest to convince the Quarians to stand down and would like to know if I'm going to have the same issue on my renegade file.

I'm guessing she just takes the place of Samara if you sided with her in ME2. Samara shows up when you take on a mission to check out an Asari colony.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:15

Rated PG-34: Jul 1, 2004

Welp, finally inserted the giant space penis into the giant space vagina and beat the game. Is it possible to pick all the paragon options at the ending in the final scene? I think after the third one or so, it was greyed out for me.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:17

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

Sankis posted:

I'm guessing she just takes the place of Samara if you sided with her in ME2. Samara shows up when you take on a mission to check out an Asari colony.

Actually she doesn't. Apparently she turns up only in the final battle on Earth... as one of the Banshees.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:18

Capt Happhypants: Mar 16, 2009

OK, so I'm quite annoyed at the moment. I've had pretty much no problems with this game (with crashes or bugs or anything) until I'm working on the final few missions.

Now when the cut scene of the Crucible being moved into place after destroying the Reaper on earth happens the screen freezes in the middle of the cut scene. I can hear the sound for a while and the sound doesn't appear to have crashed but the game won't do anything from that point and I have to ctrl+alt+dlt to get out of it and force a close.

Super nice when I was hoping to see the ending tonight (even if everyone seems to think it sucks).

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:32

Meiteron: Apr 4, 2008

Banjodark posted:

put off your conversation with kaidan on the citadel until you have the chat with liara, they're not in order, you can go to liara first. Her's should unlock pretty quickly/at the same time.

Is there a cutoff point for these conversations, mission-wise? Are they going to stop showing up if I do too many priority missions?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:34

Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet).

Capt Happhypants posted:

OK, so I'm quite annoyed at the moment. I've had pretty much no problems with this game (with crashes or bugs or anything) until I'm working on the final few missions.

Now when the cut scene of the Crucible being moved into place after destroying the Reaper on earth happens the screen freezes in the middle of the cut scene. I can hear the sound for a while and the sound doesn't appear to have crashed but the game won't do anything from that point and I have to ctrl+alt+dlt to get out of it and force a close.

Super nice when I was hoping to see the ending tonight (even if everyone seems to think it sucks).

This IS your ending.

It is better than my ending significantly.

Take it as a blessing and run far, far away.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:40

Dr. Abysmal: Feb 17, 2010; We're all doomed

Banjodark posted:

put off your conversation with kaidan on the citadel until you have the chat with liara, they're not in order, you can go to liara first. Her's should unlock pretty quickly/at the same time.

I figured that out later but I just saw Kaidan sitting there so I walked up and talked to him first. When I wandered over to Liara she just said "hello Shepard" until she emailed me to come see her. It was no biggie, after I broke his heart he went right back to being my buddy.

BrianWilly posted:

Huh, that's surprising. When my FemShep romanced Garrus, I reaffirmed my relationship with him early in the game, and Kaidan never brought our relationship up again despite me speaking to him before Garrus in their post-Cerberus coup Citadel meetings. That might be because I "cheated" on him in ME2 though.

Well, I suppose that does make the Kaidan thing easier to come by. Still one of the harder ones to achieve though, considering that if you romance Miranda, Tali, or Jack, their "lock in" scenes occur earlier, and if you do Ashley then Kaidan's dead.

Liara's relationship imported a little weird for me anyway. I rekindled it during LotSB and didn't romance anybody else in ME2 but the game didn't seem to recognize that and she said it had been years since we had been together. I told her I wanted to be with her at that time but then later she and Shepard acted like they had never been together at all and I had to tell her again that I wanted a relationship. Kaidan and Traynor were still options until then.

Dr. Abysmal fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 02:47

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:45

evilalien: Jul 29, 2005; Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

Rated PG-34 posted:

Welp, finally inserted the giant space penis into the giant space vagina and beat the game. Is it possible to pick all the paragon options at the ending in the final scene? I think after the third one or so, it was greyed out for me.

Yes, I did all paragon there. I'm not sure what exactly unlocks that option though.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:45

GreenBuckanneer: Sep 15, 2007

evilalien posted:

Yes, I did all paragon there. I'm not sure what exactly unlocks that option though.

You have to pick every single paragon/renegade you ever get the chance to do with that character. It has to be all one or the other, no exceptions

# ? Mar 14, 2012 02:49

Bean: Sep 9, 2001

Anyone download the datapad app yet? I'm getting no mail, which makes me think that my origin account isn't set up correctly, but I have no idea how to log into origin on the Xbox and check. Help, please?

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:33

Darko: Dec 23, 2004; Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

GreenBuckanneer posted:

You have to pick every single paragon/renegade you ever get the chance to do with that character. It has to be all one or the other, no exceptions

For that scene, right? Because I'm like 80% Renegade in this game with options and 90 or so in the others, and I could pick the Paragon or Renegade choice with each prompt.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:39

The Quake: Nov 1, 2006

I just noticed why I recognized the song from the end credits, It's been playing on my Pandora station for the longest time.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:41

Parachute Underwear: Jul 21, 2006; The Bruins are the hat to the Canadiens' scarf. The hat says to the scarf, "you just hang around and I'll go on ahead."

The Quake posted:

I just noticed why I recognized the song from the end credits, It's been playing on my Pandora station for the longest time.

It's also by the same band who did the end theme of ME1 (well, not for the game but it's one of their songs). I recognized it just because the tone was so familiar.

Darko posted:

For that scene, right? Because I'm like 80% Renegade in this game with options and 90 or so in the others, and I could pick the Paragon or Renegade choice with each prompt.

Yeah I dunno, I had a full respect bar that was split about 85% paragon, 15% renegade and when I got to the last paragon prompt I could still choose the renegade one.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:43

Nuclear Pogostick: Apr 9, 2007; Bouncing towards victory

I just beat it and WHAT THE HOLY UNLOVING gently caress WAS THAT. I haven't been so pissed at an ending... well, EVER. Seriously did they not focus test this at all? All 3 choices were hackneyed bullshit and the idea of the citadel/catalyst being the cause of the reapers is loving RETARDED.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:45

LibbyM: Dec 7, 2011

I was actually wondering about how the charm/intimidate system works overall in this game anyway. I had a full paragon meter with the TINIEST bit of renegade, and for the entire game I was able to do every since Intimidate prompt if I wanted too, they were all available. (excluding that one last prompt at the end)

^^ You are now one with us all.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:47

Verviticus: Mar 13, 2006; ... at least we've got Aaron Rome!

Parachute Underwear posted:

It's also by the same band who did the end theme of ME1 (well, not for the game but it's one of their songs). I recognized it just because the tone was so familiar.

Yeah I dunno, I had a full respect bar that was split about 85% paragon, 15% renegade and when I got to the last paragon prompt I could still choose the renegade one.

LibbyM posted:

I was actually wondering about how the charm/intimidate system works overall in this game anyway. I had a full paragon meter with the TINIEST bit of renegade, and for the entire game I was able to do every since Intimidate prompt if I wanted too, they were all available. (excluding that one last prompt at the end)

^^ You are now one with us all.

All you need to do is make sure that you use one of the two coloured options for every interaction with TIM during the game. One of them is buried in the dialogue tree, but I forget which (mars or thessia?). I know for certain I did at least one of each paragon/renegade and I was still able to do both paragon and renegade options at the end of the game, even when I was only about 20% renegade.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:47

LibbyM: Dec 7, 2011

Verviticus posted:

All you need to do is make sure that you use one of the two coloured options for every interaction with TIM during the game. One of them is buried in the dialogue tree, but I forget which (mars or thessia?). I know for certain I did at least one of each paragon/renegade and I was still able to do both paragon and renegade options at the end of the game, even when I was only about 20% renegade.

Nah someone allready explained that to me earlier in the thread. I'm talking about how like, with even 1% renegade, the game would let me do every other intimidate option. It makes me wonder how anyone could get to a point like the big quarion/geth decision without having the ability to charm/intimidate their way out.
In ME1/2 it was actually possible to not have a high enough stat, I lost wrex that way actually my first time through me1. It doesn't seem like that is possible in me3 anymore.

# ? Mar 14, 2012 03:50

The Cheshire Cat: Jun 10, 2008

LibbyM posted:

I was actually wondering about how the charm/intimidate system works overall in this game anyway. I had a full paragon meter with the TINIEST bit of renegade, and for the entire game I was able to do every since Intimidate prompt if I wanted too, they were all available. (excluding that one last prompt at the end)

To be honest I don't quite understand it either. I guess it's an improvement over ME2 where if you decide to actually make decisions instead of just blindly going 100% paragon or renegade, you get locked out of the top end persuasion options.

I think it end up being more reflective than requirement in ME3 - your persuasion choices are limited only by your overall "reputation" score, which rises with both renegade and paragon points, and the proportion of each just represents whether you've been doing more charming or intimidating.

LibbyM posted:

Nah someone allready explained that to me earlier in the thread. I'm talking about how like, with even 1% renegade, the game would let me do every other intimidate option. It makes me wonder how anyone could get to a point like the big quarion/geth decision without having the ability to charm/intimidate their way out.
In ME1/2 it was actually possible to not have a high enough stat, I lost wrex that way actually my first time through me1. It doesn't seem like that is possible in me3 anymore.

For that spoilered bit, apparently there's more involved in unlocking those options than just your reputation score, so you can get locked out of it if you've made particular choices throughout the series even if you've got the raw stats (or maybe you need higher reputation if you have fewer "points" for it? I'm not really sure). But yeah, overall being paragon/renegade doesn't seem to really affect anything in ME3.

The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 04:00

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# ? May 21, 2013 14:23

Darth Freddy: Feb 6, 2007; An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.

Random question but hasany gotten the N7 track jacket? http://biowarestore.com/mass-effect...n7-track-jacket

is it well put together?

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