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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

I had kinda hoped that the crucible wasn't going to be so much a weapon as a tool - a tool that when activated, destroyed "indoctrination." The massive army the reapers had falls silent, all indoctrinated people regain their sanity, and suddenly the reapers are very, very vulnerable. A little more space battle porn and what remains of the reapers, robbed of their ability to indoctrinate and adequately defend themselves, go down fighting but ultimately go down. That was the ending I was building up in my mind.

Yeah, didn't quite turn out that way, I guess.

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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

I have to admit, I was amused (and, well, enjoyed on other levels) the gratuitous rear end shots in the game, especially of Miranda. Ho boy, that's one hell of a perfect digital rear end.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Well, I mean...except for the Hanar, maybe also the Yahg, all the species in Mass Effect were basically the same template as humans - four appendages, eyes above a nose above a mouth on a head connected to a torso. Which is ridiculous, of course. We're only like that because we evolved on Earth from creatures a lot like fish. Other species on other planets would of course evolve in other ways.

Also, all Mass Effect species had bilateral symmetry. Even the loving Reapers.

I'm basically saying that alien design was never really their strong suit. It doesn't make much sense to criticize them for making Tali essentially a human - everyone else is, too.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Toriori posted:

A girl can dream :allears: ......can't she? :saddowns:

Speaking of which, apparently if you're a girl in the ME universe you have mammary glands. Right on your chest, just like those wacky humans. Maybe the Elcor women had cow-like teets? And we finally see a Krogan woman, only we don't "see" her, but I seem to recall she still had tits. No Taurian women to speak of, maybe they reproduce like gremlins or something. The various sex scenes seem to imply that they do indeed have cocks, just as Asari and Quarians apparently all had pussies.

And where are the fat Asari? The fat anyone? The Volus shouldn't be the only race with fat people.

HeyMrDeadMan posted:

Are you gonna call Sagan stupid?

A little, yeah.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Wingless posted:

Covergent Evolution

I'm not talking about eyes here, or even the basics like limbs for grasping and manipulating, which we'd imagine any intelligent species must have. I'm talking about an entire duplicated body plan. This isn't like in Star Trek where they had to do it because they were using human actors to play alien roles - they could go crazy. Like they did with the Hanar, kinda. That's the only one they went crazy with.

I'm talking about the head on a neck on a torso with two limbs for grasping and two for bipedal motion. Aside from the Elcor and the Hanar, that's what you get. I'm talking about eyes placed on the top of the head, a nose in the middle for olfactory senses, and mouths below that, with ears with small, useless flaps on the side of the head. I'm talking about similar reproductive organs, for god's sake. The only thing separating the Krogan was that they had four balls instead or two! I'd be willing to maybe buy one species that had a similar body plan but not all of them.

And again, I'm not necessarily criticizing them for these decisions. They went with what they went with because they wanted maximum emotional effect by making the aliens you are supposed to humanize with very human-like. From an artistic standpoint, I get it. I'm just saying that they weren't exactly going for the alien-design gusto, so why criticize them for Tali?

ashpanash fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 9, 2012

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

ImpAtom posted:

The ending doesn't just make no sense, it flies in the face of everything established throughout the rest of the game.

Re: Ending

This is exactly what I hated most about it. I spend the entire game uniting the galaxy and getting this feeling of amazing accomplishment. Among my accomplishments, I ended the war between the Geth and the Quarians and I helped a robot lady find true love. I've got the entire galaxy behind my back. Live or die, they're gonna put a statue of me in the Citadel for this.

Except no. A new narrative thread never really remarked upon, and completely refuted by my actions up to this point (if my actions were supposed to have any meaning at all), is dropped in place of an adequate ending to the story we were given. The Citadel I went on fetch missions all over the galaxy to save? It blows up. Everything blows up. All that work and time and sense of accomplishment was all so Joker could get green glowy eyes and make sweet half-synthetic love to his robodoll on some unknown planet somewhere, and Gramps can tell his half-robot/half-organic grandchild about some legend or something that he probably made up anyway.


So yeah. The more I think about it the more I dislike it.

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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Oooh, I like that. Can we call him Tim now? Just assume his first name was always Tim even before he picked up the monicker "The Illusive Man?" Because that's the kind of goofy silliness I can get behind.

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